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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Apr 18 11:08:17 2024, in response to Re: Bidens major threat of retailiation to Iran, posted by chicagoMotorman on Thu Apr 18 09:47:17 2024. He may well be an idiot, but he’s still an excellent president. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Apr 18 11:08:43 2024, in response to Re: Bidens major threat of retailiation to Iran, posted by chicagoMotorman on Thu Apr 18 09:50:54 2024. And yet the cult is primarily concerned with their own feelings. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Apr 18 11:10:36 2024, in response to Re: Bidens major threat of retailiation to Iran, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Thu Apr 18 10:22:22 2024. That’s just how you perceive it because you give credit to Trump’s interruptions and lack of decorum. |
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Posted by Jeff Rosen on Thu Apr 18 11:17:14 2024, in response to Re: Bidens major threat of retailiation to Iran, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Apr 18 09:38:40 2024. Wow, it was so peaceful when subchat was down. |
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Posted by Jeff Rosen on Thu Apr 18 11:19:04 2024, in response to Re: Bidens major threat of retailiation to Iran, posted by chicagoMotorman on Thu Apr 18 09:50:54 2024. Two idiot assholes running for President two presidential elections in a row. |
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Posted by AlM on Thu Apr 18 11:21:42 2024, in response to Re: Bidens major threat of retailiation to Iran, posted by Jeff Rosen on Thu Apr 18 11:19:04 2024. How generous of you not to say three elections in a row. :) |
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Posted by AlM on Thu Apr 18 11:22:01 2024, in response to Re: Bidens major threat of retailiation to Iran, posted by Jeff Rosen on Thu Apr 18 11:19:04 2024. How generous of you not to say three elections in a row. :) |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Apr 18 11:28:21 2024, in response to Re: Bidens major threat of retailiation to Iran, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Thu Apr 18 10:27:10 2024. He’s not a successful businessman at any level. He’s a classic “failson.” |
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Posted by Stephen Bauman on Thu Apr 18 11:52:13 2024, in response to Re: Bidens major threat of retailiation to Iran, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Thu Apr 18 10:27:10 2024. That was the Eastern Airlines shuttle service.There was an intermediate stage. Frank Lorenzo started NY Air Shuttle to compete with EAL. Frank Lorenzo got control of EAL in 1986. He already had control of Texas Air Corporation. One condition for the acquisition was to spin off the NY Air Shuttle to PAA. In 1987, Lorenzo wanted to merge the EAL shuttle into his Texas Air Corporation. This would permit him to charge the entity management fees. The unions and regulators forced him to sell the shuttle. He sold it to Trump in 1988. It was a monumental money loser when Trump took over. The shuttle was profitable, when Trump bought it. Here's a link to a contemporary article. https://archive.li/orHRF COMPANY NEWS; EASTERN SHUTTLE LIKELY TO BE SOLD TO TRUMP TODAY NY Times, October 12, 1988, Section A, Page 1 The Texas Air Corporation will announce today that it has sold the Eastern Airlines shuttle to Donald J. Trump, the New York real estate developer, for more than $300 million, people close to the talks said yesterday. One said that a news conference had been scheduled at the Plaza Hotel this morning at which Frank Lorenzo, chairman of Texas Air, and Mr. Trump would announce the deal. Philip J. Bakes, president and chief executive officer of Eastern, is also expected to be at the news conference. Mr. Bakes was at a meeting at the Texas Air offices in New York yesterday. When asked as he was leaving the meeting at Rockefeller Center if the shuttle had been sold, Mr. Bakes said he had no comment. The Eastern shuttle carries passengers between New York and Boston and Washington. When it began more than two decades ago, the shuttle was considered highly innovative because it required no reservations and guaranteed a seat. The airline had backup planes standing by and promised to put one into service on any flight, even if it meant carrying only one passenger. In the ensuing years, the shuttle has been an important part of the life of businessmen and government officials who must travel between the three cities on short notice. Among Most Profitable Units The sale of the shuttle, one of Eastern's most profitable units, makes it almost certain that Mr. Lorenzo is headed for a bitter showdown with the major unions at Eastern. They have fiercely fought to retain the shuttle as part of the airline. Wright B. George, an official of the pilots union at Eastern, said yesterday that the union would fight the sale in every way possible in the courts and on the labor front. Mr. George did not elaborate about what the union, which represents the pilots who fly the shuttle, might do. ''We're looking at various options to keep this thing from being split up,'' he said. ''The shuttle is the heart and soul of the system.'' The acquisition would give Mr. Trump a small, profitable airline operation that he could use to improve service to Atlantic City, where he owns two hotel-casinos. One of the problems with the casinos has been poor air service that makes it difficult to attract gamblers from a wider region. The deal would also give Mr. Trump aircraft arrival and departure slots and airport gates in Boston, Washington and New York. Gates and slots are difficult to obtain. They would enable him to expand the service to other points. Eastern's shuttle has been profitable for many years, although the company does not report its performance separately in public documents. Pan American World Airways, which started a competing shuttle service last year, is believed to have reached the break-even point. It has attracted substantial numbers of passengers from Eastern. A spokeswoman for Mr. Trump said last night that he was unavailable for comment. He has not disclosed in detail how he might operate the Eastern shuttle and whether he might expand service to Atlantic City. The airport at Atlantic City can handle jet traffic, but its facilities might require expansion should Mr. Trump decide to begin a heavy flight schedule ferrying gamblers and guests from various parts of the country to his casino-hotels. Mr. Lorenzo sought last winter to sell the shuttle to a subsidiary of Texas Air, Eastern's corporate parent. The unions were able to stop the sale temporarily when a Federal court judge in Washington ruled that Eastern was in violation of the Railway Labor Act, which governs bargaining in the airline industry. Eastern, however, won the case on appeal and there is now no legal reason that Eastern cannot sell the shuttle. Plan Abandoned Last Summer Despite that legal victory, Mr. Lorenzo announced last summer that he was abandoning plans to sell the shuttle to the Texas Air subsidiary, a decision the unions hailed as a victory. The chances of a union suit's being able to stop the sale are considered slim now, since the union has already lost an appeal on the same issue, some attorneys involved in the case said. Mr. Lorenzo has been preparing the shuttle for sale for some time. The shuttle has been operating largely as an independent unit within Eastern Airlines, with its own management, marketing strategy and work force. It even assumed its own corporate indentity: Air-Shuttle. Thus it is expected that Mr. Trump will be able to take over easily and not have to find his own managers to run it. Mr. Trump has said that he is thinking of upgrading the shuttle to a ''super deluxe service,'' refurbishing its fleet of 17 older Boeing 727 airplanes and ordering some new planes. Sources close to Mr. Trump said that he planned to take possession of the shuttle as early as January. The sale would have to be approved by the Department of Transportation. Airline industry analysts have said that there would be little problem in getting approval since there appear to be no antitrust problems. War Chest to Grow The sale is expected to increase the bitterness of the struggle between Eastern's unions and Mr. Lorenzo. The airline's largest union, the International Association of Machinists and Aerospace Workers, may soon head for a showdown with Mr. Lorenzo over a new contract. Eastern has been building up cash in preparation for a confrontation with the machinists union, and the sale will greatly add to its war chest, believed to be about $400 million already. Under the Railway Labor Act, no strike is possible by the machinists until the end of a 30-day cooling-off period, which has not yet been set by the mediation board. If no agreement has been reached at the end of the 30 days, Eastern is free to impose its own wages and work rules and the union is free to accept them or strike. Mr. Lorenzo has been seeking deep wage and benefit cuts as well as work rule concessions, contending they are necessary to return the airline to profitability. The machinists' and the pilots' unions have engaged in talks with Carl C. Icahn, chairman of Trans World Airlines, seeking to find someone to buy the airline from Texas Air. Mr. Icahn has indicated that he would be willing to buy Eastern without the shuttle, but the heads of the unions said they would demand that any deal keep the shuttle at Eastern. Thus the sale for Mr. Trump would make it even less likely that Mr. Icahn can strike a deal with the unions, an effort considered unlikely from the outset. |
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Posted by chicagoMotorman on Thu Apr 18 12:06:11 2024, in response to Re: Bidens major threat of retailiation to Iran, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Apr 18 11:05:43 2024. You're full of shit. |
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Posted by chicagoMotorman on Thu Apr 18 12:07:30 2024, in response to Re: Bidens major threat of retailiation to Iran, posted by Jeff Rosen on Thu Apr 18 11:19:04 2024. Are you voting for Kennedy Jr? |
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Posted by Jeff Rosen on Thu Apr 18 12:26:27 2024, in response to Re: Bidens major threat of retailiation to Iran, posted by chicagoMotorman on Thu Apr 18 12:07:30 2024. No. By the way, in the early 80's when he was an assistant district atty I sat with him at his desk writing up the complaint for one of my arrests. |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Thu Apr 18 13:29:57 2024, in response to Re: Bidens major threat of retailiation to Iran, posted by Stephen Bauman on Thu Apr 18 11:52:13 2024. I don't get it. Simply put: If it was so profitable, how/why was Trump able to get a hold of it?? |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Apr 18 13:56:24 2024, in response to Re: Bidens major threat of retailiation to Iran, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Thu Apr 18 13:29:57 2024. ????He just said that Lorenzo was forced to sell it. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Apr 18 13:56:47 2024, in response to Re: Bidens major threat of retailiation to Iran, posted by chicagoMotorman on Thu Apr 18 12:06:11 2024. No, I’m not. I’m the most informed person in this country. |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Thu Apr 18 14:01:19 2024, in response to Re: Bidens major threat of retailiation to Iran, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Apr 18 11:28:21 2024. Forbes and Bloomberg (both Trump haters BTW) put Trump's net worth at about $2 billion. You dont get or keep that kind of $$$ by being an overall business failure or any kind of "failson" regardless of what the Daily Beast says. |
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Posted by chicagoMotorman on Thu Apr 18 14:05:35 2024, in response to Re: Bidens major threat of retailiation to Iran, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Apr 18 13:56:47 2024. The economy sucks. |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Thu Apr 18 14:09:41 2024, in response to Re: Bidens major threat of retailiation to Iran, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Apr 18 13:56:24 2024. I saw that. My skeptical mind still wonders why Lorenzo was so anxious to sell even before Trump showed up. I mean, if its such moneymaker, you try everything to hold on, no?. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Apr 18 14:34:34 2024, in response to Re: Bidens major threat of retailiation to Iran, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Thu Apr 18 14:01:19 2024. Yes you do, it’s called being born into money. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Apr 18 14:35:11 2024, in response to Re: Bidens major threat of retailiation to Iran, posted by chicagoMotorman on Thu Apr 18 14:05:35 2024. It most certainly does not. The economy is better than it has been in decades. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Apr 18 14:53:55 2024, in response to Re: Bidens major threat of retailiation to Iran, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Thu Apr 18 14:09:41 2024. Huh? That doesn’t make sense. |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Thu Apr 18 17:13:27 2024, in response to Re: Bidens major threat of retailiation to Iran, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Apr 18 14:34:34 2024. Not 2 billion. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Apr 18 17:30:39 2024, in response to Re: Bidens major threat of retailiation to Iran, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Apr 17 18:14:07 2024. So giving $4 billion to Iran on 9/13/23 so they in turn can help Hamas financially with causing 10/7 is "excellent"? Why do you hate Jews so much? |
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Posted by AlM on Thu Apr 18 17:35:54 2024, in response to Re: Bidens major threat of retailiation to Iran, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Thu Apr 18 17:13:27 2024. According to Google, the S&P was at 160 in April 1984. Now it's at 5000, a factor of 30 growth.Did Trump's endowment from his father increase by a factor of 30? Nope, nowhere near. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Apr 18 17:37:22 2024, in response to Re: Bidens major threat of retailiation to Iran, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Thu Apr 18 10:27:10 2024. JFTR, that shuttle continued as the USAir Shuttle, and then the AA Shuttle until draconian COVID-1984 restrictions killed it off. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Apr 18 18:00:08 2024, in response to Re: Bidens major threat of retailiation to Iran, posted by AlM on Thu Apr 18 17:35:54 2024. Exactly. |
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Posted by Stephen Bauman on Thu Apr 18 18:52:23 2024, in response to Re: Bidens major threat of retailiation to Iran, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Apr 18 17:30:39 2024. So giving $4 billion to Iran on 9/13/23 so they in turn can help Hamas financially with causing 10/7 is "excellent"?How much of the $4 billion of Iran's frozen fund, did Iran actually receive by 10/7/2023? |
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Posted by Jeff Rosen on Thu Apr 18 19:08:00 2024, in response to Re: Bidens major threat of retailiation to Iran, posted by Stephen Bauman on Thu Apr 18 18:52:23 2024. You don't pay anything to enemies, period. |
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Posted by Stephen Bauman on Thu Apr 18 21:15:50 2024, in response to Re: Bidens major threat of retailiation to Iran, posted by Jeff Rosen on Thu Apr 18 19:08:00 2024. You don't pay anything to enemies, period.1. There was no payment. The money was transferred to an account in Qatar. https://www.nytimes.com/2023/08/10/us/politics/iran-us-prisoner-swap.html The United States will also transfer nearly $6 billion of Iran’s existing assets in South Korea, putting the funds into an account in the central bank of Qatar, according to the people familiar with the deal. The account will be controlled by the government of Qatar and regulated so Iran can gain access to the money only to pay vendors for humanitarian purchases such as medicine and food, they said. 2. An immediate result of the transfer was the release of American citizens held by Iran. Negotiations have been under way to return the surviving 10/7 hostages to Israel. Israel will have to make concessions or the hostages will be doomed. |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Thu Apr 18 22:20:10 2024, in response to Re: Bidens major threat of retailiation to Iran, posted by Stephen Bauman on Thu Apr 18 21:15:50 2024. The hostages might already be dead. |
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Posted by Stephen Bauman on Thu Apr 18 23:50:40 2024, in response to Re: Bidens major threat of retailiation to Iran, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Thu Apr 18 22:20:10 2024. The hostages might already be dead.They will be, if the Israeli government continues to believe the hostages are an impediment to their military objectives. They will be, if Hamas believes the Israelis cannot be deterred from their stated goal of entirely destroying Hamas. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Apr 19 01:03:59 2024, in response to Re: Bidens major threat of retailiation to Iran, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Apr 17 16:01:00 2024. What is awesome about any of them? |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Apr 19 01:08:03 2024, in response to Re: Bidens major threat of retailiation to Iran, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Thu Apr 18 10:22:22 2024. I remember that as well. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Apr 19 07:42:08 2024, in response to Re: Bidens major threat of retailiation to Iran, posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Apr 19 01:03:59 2024. The true parts of 1, 4, and 5. The rest of them are outright lies. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Apr 19 07:42:26 2024, in response to Re: Bidens major threat of retailiation to Iran, posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Apr 19 01:08:03 2024. Figures |
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Posted by chicagoMotorman on Fri Apr 19 07:49:50 2024, in response to Re: Bidens major threat of retailiation to Iran, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Apr 19 07:42:08 2024. You're right. He doesn't, nor does believe any of them. But his handlers do. |
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Posted by chicagoMotorman on Fri Apr 19 07:50:37 2024, in response to Re: Bidens major threat of retailiation to Iran, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Apr 19 07:42:26 2024. WHAT ?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Apr 19 08:41:24 2024, in response to Re: Bidens major threat of retailiation to Iran, posted by chicagoMotorman on Fri Apr 19 07:49:50 2024. He doesn’t have “handlers.” |
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Posted by chicagoMotorman on Fri Apr 19 08:54:34 2024, in response to Re: Bidens major threat of retailiation to Iran, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Apr 19 08:41:24 2024. 
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Posted by AlM on Fri Apr 19 09:24:58 2024, in response to Re: Bidens major threat of retailiation to Iran, posted by chicagoMotorman on Fri Apr 19 08:54:34 2024. LOL.So tell us again how Obama controls Biden in meetings where Obama isn't present. Does Biden have a chip implanted in his brain? |
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Posted by chicagoMotorman on Fri Apr 19 09:44:19 2024, in response to Re: Bidens major threat of retailiation to Iran, posted by AlM on Fri Apr 19 09:24:58 2024. Do you honestly think that Biden is not an idiot? |
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Posted by Jeff Rosen on Fri Apr 19 09:44:29 2024, in response to Re: Bidens major threat of retailiation to Iran, posted by Stephen Bauman on Thu Apr 18 23:50:40 2024. Did you think Eisenhower and Churchill were wrong with their "unconditional surrender"? |
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Posted by Jeff Rosen on Fri Apr 19 09:44:46 2024, in response to Re: Bidens major threat of retailiation to Iran, posted by Stephen Bauman on Thu Apr 18 23:50:40 2024. Peace in our time. |
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Posted by Stephen Bauman on Fri Apr 19 10:50:06 2024, in response to Re: Bidens major threat of retailiation to Iran, posted by Jeff Rosen on Fri Apr 19 09:44:29 2024. Did you think Eisenhower and Churchill were wrong with their "unconditional surrender"?I assume you mean Roosevelt and Churchill's declaration at the Casablanca Conference on Jan. 1943. The conference and statement were made after Allied victories at Stalingrad (a few weeks before the official end on 2 Feb 1943), El Alamein in November 1942, the simultaneous success of Operation Torch (North Africa landings), etc. It was made, after the war had turned to the allies favor. The allies had reserves to throw into the war; the axis had none. The only way the axis could win would be, if the allied coalition broke apart and Germany could sign a separate agreement with either Germany or the UK/US. The "unconditional surrender" statement was a signal to Stalin that the UK/US were not interested in a separate peace with Germany. They were afraid that Stalin might sign a separate peace with Germany. Even with these motives, and the safety of knowing that the tide had changed, Roosevelt further clarified his meaning of "unconditional surrender" in a radio broadcast in February 1943. "we mean no harm to the common people of the Axis nations. But we do mean to impose punishment and retribution upon their guilty, barbaric leaders." The distinction between the people and their leaders is something that Israeli leaders have not made. If it had, it would be supplying food to prevent starvation like it did during the 1967 war. |
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Posted by Stephen Bauman on Fri Apr 19 11:06:58 2024, in response to Re: Bidens major threat of retailiation to Iran, posted by Jeff Rosen on Fri Apr 19 09:44:46 2024. Peace in our time.That works both ways. The events since 10/7 show that a pax Israeli (Israel occupying the "river-to-the-sea") cannot be maintained indefinitely. It's much more costly to occupy a hostile territory than to conquer it. The US discovered this in Iraq and Afghanistan. Israel has found this out twice: in 1973 with Egypt and on 10/7. Israel and Egypt settled difference, when both realized that military occupation of Sinai was untenable in the long run. There are elements within both Israeli and Palestinian societies that realize this and want to reach an accommodation. They are thwarted by elements on both sides that will use violence to prevent any agreement. There won't be any long lasting peace until those opposing an accommodation are discredited within their communities. |
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Posted by chicagoMotorman on Fri Apr 19 13:02:48 2024, in response to Re: Bidens major threat of retailiation to Iran, posted by Stephen Bauman on Fri Apr 19 11:06:58 2024. 𝐼𝓈𝓇𝒶𝑒𝓁 𝑜𝒸𝒸𝓊𝓅𝓎𝒾𝓃𝑔 𝓉𝒽𝑒 "𝓇𝒾𝓋𝑒𝓇-𝓉𝑜-𝓉𝒽𝑒-𝓈𝑒𝒶" And you have a problem with that? |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Apr 19 13:19:34 2024, in response to Re: Bidens major threat of retailiation to Iran, posted by Stephen Bauman on Fri Apr 19 11:06:58 2024. The other option is to eliminate the hostile territory by way of a population transfer. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Apr 19 13:28:05 2024, in response to Re: Bidens major threat of retailiation to Iran, posted by Stephen Bauman on Fri Apr 19 11:06:58 2024. It's much more costly to occupy a hostile territory than to conquer it. The US discovered this in Iraq and AfghanistanIt's not bothering Russia WRT Ukraine. It's not costly when you're actually victorious and beat the opposing military forces too, not to mention stop neighboring hostile nations (e.g. Iran). That was not done in either Afghanistan or Iraq. Your comparisons to Israel are absurd. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Apr 19 13:43:42 2024, in response to Re: Bidens major threat of retailiation to Iran, posted by chicagoMotorman on Fri Apr 19 13:02:48 2024. Seems like he does.So-called "Palestine" "from the river to the sea" is the "Palestinian" one-state solution. |
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Posted by chicagoMotorman on Fri Apr 19 13:57:51 2024, in response to Re: Biden’s major threat of retaliation to Iran, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Apr 19 13:43:42 2024. Is Stephen Bauman Jewish? I have asked him in the past, and he has refused to answer. |
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