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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Tue Jan 16 22:21:35 2024, in response to Re: Hertz Withdraws its EVs, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jan 16 22:18:10 2024. Not yet on I-80 & I-79 in Pennsylvania |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Tue Jan 16 22:23:53 2024, in response to Re: Scene at Chicago “Supercharger” (was Hertz Withdraws its EVs), posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jan 16 21:34:45 2024. Sounds like a job for "Hot Start" aka starting ether, if they still make that stuff. |
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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Tue Jan 16 22:52:54 2024, in response to Re: Hertz Withdraws its EVs, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Tue Jan 16 20:29:23 2024. I would never take a gasoline car on a road trip. I haven't done so in years.If you want to tool around town in a manual, have at it. But you have to be really special to use one on the open road. |
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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Tue Jan 16 22:54:05 2024, in response to Re: Hertz Withdraws its EVs, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Tue Jan 16 15:49:52 2024. That's so cute that you make a separate stop for your car and then one for yourself. That's not time consuming at all, but it's so cute. |
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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Tue Jan 16 22:56:04 2024, in response to Re: Hertz Withdraws its EVs, posted by AlM on Sun Jan 14 21:46:01 2024. I must revisit this post, it hits a problem I keep noticing."I usually bought gas at one of the very busy stations on the Bronx side of the Willis Ave or Third Ave Bridges. I'm sure those locations will have high speed chargers in a few years, if they don't already have them." Why are you limiting chargers to gas stations? There's electricity everywhere, put them somewhere USEFUL or good. What are you going to do, stop at a "gas statioN" and then stop at a burger king afterwards? That's dumb. Break the addicition. Move on. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jan 16 22:56:32 2024, in response to Re: Hertz Withdraws its EVs, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Tue Jan 16 22:52:54 2024. I would never take a gasoline car on a road trip. I haven't done so in yearsSo you haven't taken road trips in years? or you've only driven diesels? If you want to tool around town in a manual, have at it. But you have to be really special to use one on the open road ??? If you mean a stickshift, they are way easier to drive on the "open road" if you mean a highway without traffic lights or an interstate. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jan 16 22:57:12 2024, in response to Re: Hertz Withdraws its EVs, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Tue Jan 16 22:56:04 2024. There's electricity everywhereAOC, is that you? |
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Re: Scene at Chicago “Supercharger” (was Hertz Withdraws its EVs) |
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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Tue Jan 16 22:57:21 2024, in response to Re: Scene at Chicago “Supercharger” (was Hertz Withdraws its EVs), posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jan 16 13:55:05 2024. "Of course it doesn't because there ain't a plethora of EVs in "the rest of the world"."The US is the slowest adopter when it comes to cold climates. There's more in the artic circle than in Chicago. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jan 16 22:57:58 2024, in response to Re: Hertz Withdraws its EVs, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jan 16 22:18:10 2024. LOL! |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jan 16 23:00:05 2024, in response to Re: Hertz Withdraws its EVs, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Tue Jan 16 22:21:35 2024. Only places adjacent to I-80 in PA I know of any charging stations being would be Walmart in East Stroudsburg, Giant supermarket in Bartonsville and The Crossings shopping mall in Tannersville, all very limited in size and capacity; they look like they serve local EVs. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jan 16 23:01:50 2024, in response to Re: Scene at Chicago “Supercharger” (was Hertz Withdraws its EVs), posted by Orange Blossom Special on Tue Jan 16 22:57:21 2024. LOL, you're making things up.And the ones nearer the Artic (sic) Circle are freezing up. Just look at Oslo, Norway. Please don't say you're one of those EV loons. |
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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Tue Jan 16 23:02:06 2024, in response to Re: Scene at Chicago “Supercharger” (was Hertz Withdraws its EVs), posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jan 16 13:53:29 2024. There's no way to verify your existence or if you were even born. I could be talking to a computer.I do remember this story from exactly 51 weeks ago. " Kanninen was stuck on I-95 for 14 hours in his Model 3 Standard Range as he watched ICE drivers burning gas to keep the cars running. Meanwhile, his Model 3 wasn't really "running" per se, but just using the battery pack to keep the cabin warm." |
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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Tue Jan 16 23:02:37 2024, in response to Re: Scene at Chicago “Supercharger” (was Hertz Withdraws its EVs), posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jan 16 23:01:50 2024. What cars are freezing up in Oslo? |
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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Tue Jan 16 23:03:13 2024, in response to Re: Hertz Withdraws its EVs, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jan 16 23:00:05 2024. Walmarts and malls are "limited in size and capacity"? Talk about being a loon. |
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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Tue Jan 16 23:04:03 2024, in response to Re: Hertz Withdraws its EVs, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jan 16 22:57:12 2024. You don't have any power?Funny, I see lights on everywhere I go. Can't remember the last time I went to a literal dead mall. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jan 16 23:04:13 2024, in response to Re: Scene at Chicago “Supercharger” (was Hertz Withdraws its EVs), posted by Orange Blossom Special on Tue Jan 16 23:02:37 2024. Electric buses.Got a blind spot in the news for EVs? |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jan 16 23:06:07 2024, in response to Re: Scene at Chicago “Supercharger” (was Hertz Withdraws its EVs), posted by Orange Blossom Special on Tue Jan 16 23:02:06 2024. LOL, "insideEVs.com". No anti-real-car bias there. |
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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Tue Jan 16 23:06:21 2024, in response to Re: Hertz Withdraws its EVs, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jan 16 22:56:32 2024. I've been to both coasts just in the last 2 years. It's nice not having to stand around wasting time at a gas pump. Couldn't imagine doing that in a new city or state.I didn't say stick-shift. I mean manual. The cars where you have to flail your feet and hands around continuously to operate manually like it's 1941. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jan 16 23:07:55 2024, in response to Re: Hertz Withdraws its EVs, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Tue Jan 16 23:04:03 2024. Not enough to charge more than the handful of EVs that are on the road right now, AOC. That'd take a massive upgrade of the grid to the point where it'd start emitting gamma rays. |
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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Tue Jan 16 23:08:39 2024, in response to Re: Scene at Chicago “Supercharger” (was Hertz Withdraws its EVs), posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jan 16 23:04:13 2024. You make fun yet you post fake news and half stories.Electric buses in Oslo didn't fail, they installed a wrong charger component at a new bus station preventing an overnight charge on part of the fleet. So what cars are failing in Oslo? I ask again, assuming you're not too blind to dig up another fun one. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jan 16 23:13:29 2024, in response to Re: Scene at Chicago “Supercharger” (was Hertz Withdraws its EVs), posted by Orange Blossom Special on Tue Jan 16 23:08:39 2024. . . . says the guy who posts fake news about EVs.they installed a wrong charger component at a new bus station preventing an overnight charge on part of the fleet LOL for believing the official excuse. So what cars are failing in Oslo? Certainly not the ones reliant on subsidy like the electric cars. On this subject, you're a hard lefty. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jan 16 23:13:44 2024, in response to Re: Scene at Chicago “Supercharger” (was Hertz Withdraws its EVs), posted by Orange Blossom Special on Tue Jan 16 23:08:39 2024. . . . says the guy who posts fake news about EVs.they installed a wrong charger component at a new bus station preventing an overnight charge on part of the fleet LOL for believing the official excuse. So what cars are failing in Oslo? Certainly not the ones reliant on subsidy like the electric cars. (sarcasm) On this subject, you're a hard lefty. |
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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Tue Jan 16 23:16:11 2024, in response to Re: Hertz Withdraws its EVs, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jan 16 23:07:55 2024. You're a fuzzy math blind dude who hasn't proven to me that you really exist (keep up the insults as though you don't know my record on here when I see funny ones).Why are you arguing about your terribly shitty power grid as though it's something to be proud of? Average transmission line is 52 years old. Demonkkkrats refused to upgrade it to protect against the Iranians. But you're going to take a page out of the Cuban playbook, and tell us why the grid can't handle too many microwave ovens...I mean cars and how horrible...i mean unrealistic progress is. Again it's 1941. We're aruging over electricty? And your wattage math is way off. Glad I went to High School for that. |
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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Tue Jan 16 23:17:02 2024, in response to Re: Scene at Chicago “Supercharger” (was Hertz Withdraws its EVs), posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jan 16 23:13:44 2024. So what cars are in Oslo are failing? |
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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Tue Jan 16 23:18:46 2024, in response to Re: Scene at Chicago “Supercharger” (was Hertz Withdraws its EVs), posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jan 16 23:13:29 2024. The car I drive determines my political affliation?So if I drive a Toyota I'm a member of Hamas then? How silly |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jan 16 23:20:50 2024, in response to Re: Hertz Withdraws its EVs, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Tue Jan 16 23:16:11 2024. Wow, you sure are a hard lefty on this score. There's no economically viable way to upgrade the grid to fulfill your and Biden's vision of Red Chinese-built EVs everywhere, certainly not without resorting to using our coal and oil resources to generate it and using low-grade Red Chinese steel to build it out of.What's your scientific background? If we get transmission up to the megawatts in high-voltage transmission lines, it certainly will start emitting ionizing radiation. You can't defy physics. Stop lying about what I'm saying. I said none of those things and you know it. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jan 16 23:23:31 2024, in response to Re: Scene at Chicago “Supercharger” (was Hertz Withdraws its EVs), posted by Orange Blossom Special on Tue Jan 16 23:17:02 2024. Nobody knows, because the owners rarely use them. Look that up. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jan 16 23:25:15 2024, in response to Re: Hertz Withdraws its EVs, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Tue Jan 16 22:21:35 2024. Sorry, just looked and there are plenty. |
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Posted by Catfish 44 on Tue Jan 16 23:41:56 2024, in response to Re: Scene at Chicago “Supercharger” (was Hertz Withdraws its EVs), posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jan 16 21:34:45 2024. Sure the 6V92. I have no idea what happened but it was a bastardly cold morning and all they had out were 1960s GM new looks. I loved it. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jan 17 00:17:45 2024, in response to Re: Scene at Chicago “Supercharger” (was Hertz Withdraws its EVs), posted by Catfish 44 on Tue Jan 16 23:41:56 2024. Very interesting.The RTS fleet had some kind of lack of insulation of either fuel delivery or engine bay that the new-looks were evidently not lacking. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jan 17 00:19:20 2024, in response to Re: Scene at Chicago “Supercharger” (was Hertz Withdraws its EVs), posted by Orange Blossom Special on Tue Jan 16 23:18:46 2024. No; the government policies you support indicates your ideological affiliation. And on this score, you are on the side of Biden and his allies in a very hardcore sense. |
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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Wed Jan 17 00:22:08 2024, in response to Re: Hertz Withdraws its EVs, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jan 16 23:20:50 2024. I'm not interested in the labels form someone who was soft on Hamas and Claudine Gay last week. You don't make me any more sad than Railman's rapist urges over on the main board." There's no economically viable way to upgrade the grid to fulfill your and Biden's vision of Red Chinese-built EVs everywhere" Because we're so poor and in a depression, unlike Red China who can handle all the EV's they pump out....which is still less than Tesla. The Lefty Mr. Musk otoh is promising energy abundance without the upgrades you are claiming. Mainly, because your math is way off. Like anyone who is a fan of electric trains knows, electric motors are scores more efficient. I don't even use 300kwh on the car. The Central Air Conditioner (another thing that the grid isn't ready for according to the talking points) sucks up much more energy. |
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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Wed Jan 17 00:22:43 2024, in response to Re: Scene at Chicago “Supercharger” (was Hertz Withdraws its EVs), posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jan 16 23:23:31 2024. Everyone is Oslo walks? I know it's Europe, but they still get winter over there, as you pointed out! |
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Posted by Jeff Rosen on Wed Jan 17 01:59:59 2024, in response to Re: Hertz Withdraws its EVs, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jan 16 22:56:32 2024. I love driving stick, even city traffic doesn't bother me. The same way I don't think about steering or braking, I don't think of the clutch or the gears. It comes naturally. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Jan 17 02:32:16 2024, in response to Re: Hertz Withdraws its EVs, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jan 16 17:46:32 2024. Weather related battery drainage, water damage, etc... Unless whatv I'm readingare all lies. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Jan 17 02:32:50 2024, in response to Re: Hertz Withdraws its EVs, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jan 16 17:46:32 2024. Also the weight |
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Posted by AlM on Wed Jan 17 03:51:43 2024, in response to Re: Hertz Withdraws its EVs, posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Jan 17 02:32:16 2024. Three things:- Some systems on some EVs are likely to have lower manufacturing process quality because they are still new. - Reporting bias: you don't read about gasoline powered cars going up in flames, but they do. - Probably some design tweaks are needed. If it's really true that battery performance degrades in cold weather, just heat up the battery compartment to 35 degrees F while you're heating up the much larger passenger compartment to 70 degrees. |
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Posted by Catfish 44 on Wed Jan 17 08:30:10 2024, in response to Re: Hertz Withdraws its EVs, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Tue Jan 16 23:06:21 2024. Like a model T? |
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Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Wed Jan 17 08:41:06 2024, in response to Re: Scene at Chicago “Supercharger” (was Hertz Withdraws its EVs), posted by Catfish 44 on Tue Jan 16 23:41:56 2024. That may (or not) be the reason that the last city I lived in in Southern California before moving to South Florida had DD Series 50 engines in their 1995 and 1997 RTS-06 (One of the 1997 models) Of course, it never got that cold there. |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Wed Jan 17 08:44:23 2024, in response to Re: Hertz Withdraws its EVs, posted by Jeff Rosen on Wed Jan 17 01:59:59 2024. Stick shift cars are becoming harder and harder to find these days. I learned on manual transmission car (67 Cougar) and it really gave you a sense of a feel of the road. Folks out there who drove stick know exactly what I mean. Thats a feeling that will be completely lost if EVs car ownership catches on.One thing you'll never have to worry about with a stick shift car, thats being carjacked! Gen Z bad guy types out there would have no idea what to do. |
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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Wed Jan 17 09:34:48 2024, in response to Re: Hertz Withdraws its EVs, posted by Catfish 44 on Wed Jan 17 08:30:10 2024. I mean all of the cars that have recall or do not park indoors notices for bursting into flames.Hyundai, Kia, Toyota, GM..... |
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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Wed Jan 17 09:38:09 2024, in response to Re: Hertz Withdraws its EVs, posted by AlM on Wed Jan 17 03:51:43 2024. "- Some systems on some EVs are likely to have lower manufacturing process quality because they are still new."I wonder about a list of these sorts of things. Do new televisions, smart lights, mobile devices have these defects or only Electric Cars using ancient dinosaur 12v architecture? Do gasoline cars have this problem since they have to be redone every 3-5 years to keep people buying. (answer is yes, the recall notices are insane) This point seems.....silly. |
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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Wed Jan 17 09:38:40 2024, in response to Re: Hertz Withdraws its EVs, posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Jan 17 02:32:50 2024. What's wrong with your weight? |
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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Wed Jan 17 09:44:00 2024, in response to Re: Scene at Chicago “Supercharger” (was Hertz Withdraws its EVs), posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jan 17 00:19:20 2024. I have an ideological affiliation because you like having a 3rd world electrical capacity in what's supposed to be the land of plenty? In the middle of the 21st century. Are you spider-pig junior who doesn't use QR codes either. I wonder if Oslo is having grid issues because it got a little bit cold, since you keep bringing Oslo up.Or is this alluding to my ideological affiliation that I believe we need to cast all of you folks away and stop backseat driving our fight with radical islam. That most help we get from you folks is that you stay home, which is nothing. There's no limits to the tangents here. |
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Posted by Avid Reader on Wed Jan 17 10:58:21 2024, in response to Re: Scene at Chicago “Supercharger” (was Hertz Withdraws its EVs), posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Tue Jan 16 22:23:53 2024. Being a Diesel owner since forever, there are Gel preventives and kerosine will also work.Some gasoline too, but I would not recommend it. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Jan 17 11:14:23 2024, in response to Re: Hertz Withdraws its EVs, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Wed Jan 17 08:44:23 2024. Exactly! |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jan 17 11:23:11 2024, in response to Re: Hertz Withdraws its EVs, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Wed Jan 17 08:44:23 2024. That doesn’t make sense. The reason you get a “feel of the road” is because you change the gears yourself, instead of having a mechanism do it for you. An EV only has the one gear. Pressing the gas just applies the appropriate power, it is much more responsive and smooth than anything that requires shifting. |
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Posted by Jeff Rosen on Wed Jan 17 11:31:42 2024, in response to Re: Hertz Withdraws its EVs, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jan 17 11:23:11 2024. I personally like to drive. I just bought a brand new Toyota Corolla last August and absolutely HATE all the new features like lane assist, which even works a little when you shut it off. I can't even change the radio station without clicking 3 or 4 clicks while my driving is distracted. We have three cars. I always pick my Jeep Wrangler with manual transmission and only 15 mpg, even if I'm driving in city traffic. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Jan 17 11:32:49 2024, in response to Re: Hertz Withdraws its EVs, posted by AlM on Wed Jan 17 03:51:43 2024. We all KNOW that gas vehicles go up in flames. That's not news.BTW, electric vehicles not starting because of the cold is on the news today! |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Jan 17 11:33:29 2024, in response to Re: Hertz Withdraws its EVs, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Wed Jan 17 09:38:40 2024. Not mine |
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