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Re: Be careful about what kind of politics you preach online

Posted by Westinghouse XCB248S on Sat Feb 24 19:31:56 2007, in response to Re: Be careful about what kind of politics you preach online, posted by xtimx on Sat Feb 24 17:22:12 2007.

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I love BBC world news and Public Radio (like WNYC and NPR). They focus more on the real issues.

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Re: Be careful about what kind of politics you preach online

Posted by Mr Mabstoa on Sun Feb 25 00:51:13 2007, in response to Re: Be careful about what kind of politics you preach online, posted by Dan Lawrence on Fri Feb 23 23:31:59 2007.

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I starting to see a whole new side to you Dan.
I thought you just were an expert on PCC's!


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Re: Be careful about what kind of politics you preach online

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sun Feb 25 12:35:14 2007, in response to Re: Be careful about what kind of politics you preach online, posted by Nilet on Sat Feb 24 18:04:58 2007.

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No, it's not. And particularly not these days, where the biggest advocates of criminalizing and controlling speech are on the left side of the spectrum.

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Re: Be careful about what kind of politics you preach online

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sun Feb 25 12:36:14 2007, in response to Re: Be careful about what kind of politics you preach online, posted by BMTLines on Sat Feb 24 18:07:50 2007.

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Neocons, as you define them, do not exist.

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Re: Be careful about what kind of politics you preach online

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sun Feb 25 12:41:54 2007, in response to Re: Be careful about what kind of politics you preach online, posted by xtimx on Sat Feb 24 16:20:12 2007.

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what?!!?!? i can't think of anything off the top of my head but she loves to say outrageous garbage just to get a rise.

Please find an example and post it here, with the appropriate annotations.

shes the kind of talking head that says stuff like "if hillary becomes president she will throw christians in the lions den and eat babies"

Apparently you don't know anything about her outside what your own bias and her racist critics tells you. She's the exact opposite of this. She never, ever uses inflamatory language. Read her blog. Disagree with her positions on issues, but don't dare classify her as an insulting nutjob. She's no Pat Robertson. If she was, I would not like her.

if you read the ny post you need your head checked.

I'd still read it over the NY Times, the most biased newspaper in town that you have to pay for.

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Re: Be careful about what kind of politics you preach online

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sun Feb 25 12:48:44 2007, in response to Re: Be careful about what kind of politics you preach online, posted by xtimx on Sat Feb 24 17:22:12 2007.

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BBC World, like anything else related to the BBC, is even worse than CNN for liberal bias and Islamist sympathies. They even openly admit being so.

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Re: Be careful about what kind of politics you preach online

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sun Feb 25 12:51:12 2007, in response to Re: Be careful about what kind of politics you preach online, posted by xtimx on Sat Feb 24 18:42:19 2007.

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I'm amazed that you admit to regularly watching BBC World News reports, yet you can't identify them as anti-American, pro-Islamist propaganda. Either you're lying about watching it regularly or you are incapable of seeing the obvious right in front of your face.

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Re: Be careful about what kind of politics you preach online

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sun Feb 25 12:55:40 2007, in response to Re: Be careful about what kind of politics you preach online, posted by Grand Concourse on Sat Feb 24 18:59:47 2007.

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As the Vorlons say:

"Understanding is a three edged sword. Your side, their side and the truth."

You cannot contemplate the truth without watching everything. I watch BBC, but I accept it's liberal prolaganda. I watch FOX News, but I accept it's got a conservative bias. I read Daily Kos just as much as I read Little Green Footballs.

JMS was a prophetic genius ...


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Re: Be careful about what kind of politics you preach online

Posted by Easy on Sun Feb 25 12:58:22 2007, in response to Re: Be careful about what kind of politics you preach online, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sun Feb 25 12:51:12 2007.

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Accurate reporting of the complete world news tends to come across as anti-American. The only way around it is to concentrate almost exclusively on the pro-American stuff like FoxNews does.

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Re: Be careful about what kind of politics you preach online

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sun Feb 25 13:19:18 2007, in response to Re: Be careful about what kind of politics you preach online, posted by Easy on Sun Feb 25 12:58:22 2007.

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Accurate reporting of the complete world news tends to come across as anti-American.

Absolute bullshit. Accurate reporting would not come across as anti-anything. Your own bias has you believing that the "truth" is anti-American.

The only way around it is to concentrate almost exclusively on the pro-American stuff like FoxNews does.

Thank God. Without FOX or Newscorp, we'd have NO voice from the other side of the spectrum and the truth would be impossible to gauge.


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Re: Be careful about what kind of politics you preach online

Posted by xtimx on Sun Feb 25 13:25:39 2007, in response to Re: Be careful about what kind of politics you preach online, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sun Feb 25 12:51:12 2007.

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you are a brainwashed moron. go sign up for the oh-so just war and shut the hell up.

don't ever address me again, i don't want to waste my time with you. ann coulter needs a hug, go.

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Re: Be careful about what kind of politics you preach online

Posted by Easy on Sun Feb 25 13:37:33 2007, in response to Re: Be careful about what kind of politics you preach online, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sun Feb 25 13:19:18 2007.

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No they just report both sides of the world news. If you only like to hear one side you listen to American news.

I guess that I feel the same way about our government as Vito Andolini felt about Hyman Roth. I love and respect the government, but it shouldn't be completely trusted. The news is supposed to be the fourth estate monitoring and reporting on the actions of our leaders. When they decide not to that for financial reasons we need to find alternative ways to get that information. Luckily it's pretty easy to do in this day and age.

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Re: Be careful about what kind of politics you preach online

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sun Feb 25 13:45:47 2007, in response to Re: Be careful about what kind of politics you preach online, posted by Easy on Sun Feb 25 13:37:33 2007.

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BBC is ANTI-American. It is not neutral. It simply balances stuff like FOX News. The "truth" is somewhere between these two extremes. It is laughable to state that BBC is a neutral, unbiased source when they themselves proudly admit they are NOT.

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Re: Be careful about what kind of politics you preach online

Posted by Edwards! on Sun Feb 25 13:45:59 2007, in response to Re: Be careful about what kind of politics you preach online, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sun Feb 25 13:19:18 2007.

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Man..what have you been drinking lately?

FOX is the absolute WORST of the OFFENDERS as far as slanted news is concerned...and newscorp is a very close second.

Also..the BBC is not ANTI-AMERICAN..

They are "anti AMERICAN government gone insane"...and after 6 or so year of insanity ..with fear ruling this country..I don't blame them.

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Re: Be careful about what kind of politics you preach online

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sun Feb 25 13:48:07 2007, in response to Re: Be careful about what kind of politics you preach online, posted by xtimx on Sun Feb 25 13:25:39 2007.

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I'm sorry you cannot handle being wrong. I am not brainwashed. I do not blindly follow anyone. Whether you agree with Malkin or not, you cannot expect to label her a Christian wacko without someone correcting you.

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Re: Be careful about what kind of politics you preach online

Posted by BIE on Sun Feb 25 13:53:00 2007, in response to Re: Be careful about what kind of politics you preach online, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sun Feb 25 13:45:47 2007.

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You are a REPUBLICAN You have NO RIGHT to call ANYONE anti American.

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Re: Be careful about what kind of politics you preach online

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sun Feb 25 13:54:22 2007, in response to Re: Be careful about what kind of politics you preach online, posted by Edwards! on Sun Feb 25 13:45:59 2007.

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FOX is the absolute WORST of the OFFENDERS as far as slanted news is concerned...and newscorp is a very close second.

You are wrong on two accounts. One is undeniable. Newscorp and FOX News are one and the same.

Also..the BBC is not ANTI-AMERICAN..
They are "anti AMERICAN government gone insane"


BBC officials beg to differ from you.

Why is it so difficult for one to admit that they themselves are biased? I do. I lean right. I accept that FOX News does the same. Why can't my counterparts on the left do the same thing when referring to CNN, BBC or the NY Times? Admitting the truth only makes you sound MORE reasonable, giving strength to all of your arguments.


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Re: Be careful about what kind of politics you preach online

Posted by BIE on Sun Feb 25 13:54:52 2007, in response to Re: Be careful about what kind of politics you preach online, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sun Feb 25 13:48:07 2007.

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More body bags coming from Iraq. --- Who's REALLY anti American.

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Re: Be careful about what kind of politics you preach online

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sun Feb 25 13:56:47 2007, in response to Re: Be careful about what kind of politics you preach online, posted by BIE on Sun Feb 25 13:54:52 2007.

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Those who give aid and comfort to those who killed those Americans in those body bags. If I were an Iraqi insurgent, I'd love to see what I see on CNN and I would be more inclined to believe I can achieve my goals.

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Re: Be careful about what kind of politics you preach online

Posted by Easy on Sun Feb 25 14:09:49 2007, in response to Re: Be careful about what kind of politics you preach online, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sun Feb 25 13:54:22 2007.

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I can't admit it because I don't lean left or right. That's just a label that the media and politicians use to cause divisiveness within the country.

Even the label "conservative" means something very different to so called conservatives around the country. For example a conservative in Orange County, CA (fiscal conservative) has very little in common with a conservative in Texas (social conservative). The genius of the Republican party has been to unite these disparate groups under the same umbrella. It's very similar to what the Dems were able to do back in the day.

The media that you cite have been accused of being anti-USA because of their investigative journalism. The job of the media should be to question the government and expose the truth. Otherwise we might as well have some state run newspaper spoon feeding us the government position on all of the issues. We almost have that now with CNN, FoxNews, MSNBC, etc.

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Re: Be careful about what kind of politics you preach online

Posted by AlM on Sun Feb 25 15:14:29 2007, in response to Re: Be careful about what kind of politics you preach online, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sun Feb 25 12:35:14 2007.

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And particularly not these days, where the biggest advocates of criminalizing and controlling speech are on the left side of the spectrum.

It's the right wing who want to make it illegal for doctors to tell patients about their options if they're pregnant, and who call it treason when people call for the withdrawal of all US troops from Iraq. It's those horrible liberals in the ACLU who think it should be legal (even though undesirable) for the KKK to march anywhere it wants and carry any banners it wants.

There are some leftists who advocate restriction of free speech, but they have no political force behind them. The right wingers who advocate restirctions do have more strength, however.




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Re: Be careful about what kind of politics you preach online

Posted by BIE on Sun Feb 25 16:54:19 2007, in response to Re: Be careful about what kind of politics you preach online, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sun Feb 25 13:56:47 2007.

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So you nazis want to destroy the TRUTH. The best way is to BUG OUT OF bu$h'S war NOW and APOLOGIZE TO THE WORLD for OUR STUPIDITY od ALLOWING bu$h and his NAZIS out of cages to run the country.

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Re: Be careful about what kind of politics you preach online

Posted by BIE on Sun Feb 25 16:57:12 2007, in response to Re: Be careful about what kind of politics you preach online, posted by AlM on Sun Feb 25 15:14:29 2007.

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They also want to censor the press when they are taking a break from anna nicole slutbag to tell the truth about bu$h's FAILED "GWoT"

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Re: Be careful about what kind of politics you preach online

Posted by Grand Concourse on Sun Feb 25 16:57:41 2007, in response to Re: Be careful about what kind of politics you preach online, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sun Feb 25 12:41:54 2007.

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It not even worth the ppr for a dog to piss on or to take a shit on.

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Re: Be careful about what kind of politics you preach online

Posted by BIE on Sun Feb 25 17:04:46 2007, in response to Re: Be careful about what kind of politics you preach online, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sun Feb 25 12:41:54 2007.

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She's a noujob oreo whore. I'll get MY news from a VARIETY of REPUTABLE sources and fox.

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Re: Be careful about what kind of politics you preach online

Posted by Dan Lawrence on Sun Feb 25 17:23:32 2007, in response to Re: Be careful about what kind of politics you preach online, posted by Mr Mabstoa on Sun Feb 25 00:51:13 2007.

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Yes on both topics.

Ive been a STOS fan from the first time it was on. I have almost every paperback novel in the STOS series, especially the Rihannsu series by Diane Duane.

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Re: Be careful about what kind of politics you preach online

Posted by BIE on Sun Feb 25 17:34:01 2007, in response to Re: Be careful about what kind of politics you preach online, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sun Feb 25 13:19:18 2007.

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I use fox that way.

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Re: Be careful about what kind of politics you preach online

Posted by Grand Concourse on Sun Feb 25 17:36:10 2007, in response to Re: Be careful about what kind of politics you preach online, posted by BIE on Sun Feb 25 17:04:46 2007.

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She's not black, she's filipino.

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Re: Be careful about what kind of politics you preach online

Posted by BIE on Sun Feb 25 17:39:35 2007, in response to Re: Be careful about what kind of politics you preach online, posted by Grand Concourse on Sun Feb 25 17:36:10 2007.

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she needs to go back there then and try to get imee marcos elected dictator like her father was.

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Re: Be careful about what kind of politics you preach online

Posted by orange blossom special on Sun Feb 25 17:52:35 2007, in response to Re: Be careful about what kind of politics you preach online, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Feb 24 12:34:23 2007.

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There's soo much wrong with that statement, and so much in reality and fantasy that goes against it, it really didn't deserve so many replys to dignify it.

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Re: Be careful about what kind of politics you preach online

Posted by Grand Concourse on Sun Feb 25 18:05:58 2007, in response to Re: Be careful about what kind of politics you preach online, posted by BIE on Sun Feb 25 17:39:35 2007.

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vicious aren't you?

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Re: Be careful about what kind of politics you preach online

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sun Feb 25 19:34:45 2007, in response to Re: Be careful about what kind of politics you preach online, posted by Easy on Sun Feb 25 14:09:49 2007.

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I can't admit it because I don't lean left or right.

If so, why do you say things like this?

The job of the media should be to question the government and expose the truth.

This is a liberal concept, one which didn't exist until 35 years ago. You claim to not lean left or right, yet your arguments and positions are undeniably leftist. Why are you afraid to admit what you are?

What happens when the government is telling the truth and the media is lying? Who questions the media?

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Re: Be careful about what kind of politics you preach online

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sun Feb 25 19:39:54 2007, in response to Re: Be careful about what kind of politics you preach online, posted by AlM on Sun Feb 25 15:14:29 2007.

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There's nothing wrong with calling someone a traitor for wanting to cut and run from Iraq. It's called an opinion. People are allowed to have them you know.

Go to any college and see who controls what can be considered "free speech". Try organizing a pro-war rally on the campus of Columbia and see who tries to stop you. Try to organize an anti-illegal immigrant rally at virtually ANY college campus and see where the powers that be line up. There is no legitimate case where conservative elements forcibly restrict the free exchange of ideas.

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Re: Be careful about what kind of politics you preach online

Posted by Grand Concourse on Sun Feb 25 19:40:00 2007, in response to Re: Be careful about what kind of politics you preach online, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sun Feb 25 19:34:45 2007.

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If you don't question the gov't then you'd let Bush let the filthy turd world illegals enter the US via mexico then?

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Re: Be careful about what kind of politics you preach online

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sun Feb 25 19:41:03 2007, in response to Re: Be careful about what kind of politics you preach online, posted by Nilet on Sat Feb 24 18:26:35 2007.

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None of these are "liberal" positions.

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Re: Be careful about what kind of politics you preach online

Posted by Kevin from Midwood on Sun Feb 25 19:45:13 2007, in response to Re: Be careful about what kind of politics you preach online, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sun Feb 25 19:34:45 2007.

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one which didn't exist until 35 years ago

Have you not heard of John Peter Zenger?

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Re: Be careful about what kind of politics you preach online

Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Feb 25 20:32:58 2007, in response to Re: Be careful about what kind of politics you preach online, posted by Grand Concourse on Sun Feb 25 19:40:00 2007.

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Chris is a secret leftist. He believes in nations without borders . . .

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Re: Be careful about what kind of politics you preach online

Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Feb 25 20:34:55 2007, in response to Re: Be careful about what kind of politics you preach online, posted by BIE on Sun Feb 25 16:54:19 2007.

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Crush the Mullahs first. Then the Middle East would actually want us there, and we can get our false allies Germany and Russia off our backs.

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Re: Be careful about what kind of politics you preach online

Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Feb 25 20:36:50 2007, in response to Re: Be careful about what kind of politics you preach online, posted by BIE on Sat Feb 24 17:05:18 2007.

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Ron's obsessed with crackheads. And doesn't he have access to pharmaceutical-grade cocaine HCl?

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Re: Be careful about what kind of politics you preach online

Posted by Easy on Sun Feb 25 21:24:15 2007, in response to Re: Be careful about what kind of politics you preach online, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sun Feb 25 19:39:54 2007.

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There's nothing wrong with calling someone a traitor for wanting to cut and run from Iraq.

There is something wrong with it if you want to have an intelligent debate. If you prefer to avoid intelligent debate and resort to name calling, then it works fine.

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Re: Be careful about what kind of politics you preach online

Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Feb 25 21:24:58 2007, in response to Re: Be careful about what kind of politics you preach online, posted by Easy on Sun Feb 25 21:24:15 2007.

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I agree.

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Re: Be careful about what kind of politics you preach online

Posted by Grand Concourse on Sun Feb 25 21:45:07 2007, in response to Re: Be careful about what kind of politics you preach online, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sun Feb 25 19:39:54 2007.

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Well on college campuses I agree, look at the recent "Find the illegal" thing by the GOp party at NYU and the other students claiming racism, while at the same breath saying 'more diversity'

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Re: Be careful about what kind of politics you preach online

Posted by BIE on Mon Feb 26 06:12:18 2007, in response to Re: Be careful about what kind of politics you preach online, posted by Grand Concourse on Sun Feb 25 21:45:07 2007.

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I wish some REAL conservatives would start bitching about ILLEGAL ALIENS DOMINATING THE FOOD INDISTRY at a time of CONCERN ABOUT AGROTERRORISM.

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Re: Be careful about what kind of politics you preach online

Posted by BIE on Mon Feb 26 06:14:21 2007, in response to Re: Be careful about what kind of politics you preach online, posted by Olog-hai on Sun Feb 25 20:34:55 2007.

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That will require NUKES. Are you game?

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Re: Be careful about what kind of politics you preach online

Posted by BIE on Mon Feb 26 06:19:10 2007, in response to Re: Be careful about what kind of politics you preach online, posted by Grand Concourse on Sun Feb 25 19:40:00 2007.

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They need a nice ***J*U*I*C*Y*** fence and lots of Marines to keep the SCUM out.

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Re: Be careful about what kind of politics you preach online

Posted by BIE on Mon Feb 26 06:19:52 2007, in response to Re: Be careful about what kind of politics you preach online, posted by Grand Concourse on Sun Feb 25 18:05:58 2007.

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8-D

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Re: Be careful about what kind of politics you preach online

Posted by BIE on Mon Feb 26 06:21:03 2007, in response to Re: Be careful about what kind of politics you preach online, posted by Olog-hai on Sun Feb 25 20:36:50 2007.

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Better things for better living through Chemistry.

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Re: Be careful about what kind of politics you preach online

Posted by Deaks on Mon Feb 26 10:31:54 2007, in response to Re: Be careful about what kind of politics you preach online, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sun Feb 25 12:41:54 2007.

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Please find an example and post it here....

S'Funny, I asked you something very similar to this last week and you seemingly forgot to answer! Convenient, eh?

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Re: Be careful about what kind of politics you preach online

Posted by RonInBayside on Mon Feb 26 11:00:25 2007, in response to Re: Be careful about what kind of politics you preach online, posted by BIE on Sat Feb 24 17:05:18 2007.

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Ha!

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Re: Be careful about what kind of politics you preach online

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Feb 26 18:47:47 2007, in response to Re: Be careful about what kind of politics you preach online, posted by Easy on Sun Feb 25 21:24:15 2007.

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Why is it name calling? Many believe that opposing your president in a time of war is tantamount to treason, thus making the perpetrator a "traitor". It's a label, not an insult.

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