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Re: Mike Lindel

Posted by mcorivervsaf on Sat Apr 22 18:01:14 2023, in response to Re: Mike Lindel, posted by Train Dude on Sat Apr 22 17:53:58 2023.

He has a history of that.

When a political party colludes with corporate media, the result is a puppet pretending to be president. That includes rigging an election to get a predetermined outcome.

But don’t expect him to comprehend that.

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Re: Mike Lindel

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Apr 22 18:15:19 2023, in response to Re: Mike Lindel, posted by mcorivervsaf on Sat Apr 22 18:01:14 2023.

You are so deep into the cult.

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Re: Mike Lindel

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Apr 22 18:15:49 2023, in response to Re: Mike Lindel, posted by Train Dude on Sat Apr 22 17:56:36 2023.

Polly want a cracker?

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Re: Mike Lindel

Posted by Train Dude on Sat Apr 22 18:29:44 2023, in response to Re: Mike Lindel, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Apr 22 18:15:49 2023.

Say what, lucy?

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Re: Mike Lindel photo

Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sat Apr 22 18:37:48 2023, in response to Re: Mike Lindel photo, posted by Avid Reader on Sat Apr 22 08:40:40 2023.

Walmart dumped him too.

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Re: Mike Lindell

Posted by mcorivervsaf on Sat Apr 22 18:44:28 2023, in response to Re: Mike Lindel, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Apr 22 18:15:19 2023.

You might want to think for yourself, for once.

Those who work in the corporate media, are the true cultists.

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Re: Mike Lindell

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Apr 22 18:52:51 2023, in response to Re: Mike Lindell, posted by mcorivervsaf on Sat Apr 22 18:44:28 2023.

LOL!

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Re: Mike Lindel

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sat Apr 22 19:47:51 2023, in response to Re: Mike Lindel, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Apr 22 17:05:11 2023.

They "voted" for him via ballot harvesting from mail-in voting. I've already said the Millenials wouldn't have gone to the polls

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Re: Mike Lindel

Posted by AlM on Sat Apr 22 20:05:17 2023, in response to Re: Mike Lindel, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sat Apr 22 19:47:51 2023.

Millenials don't use the US Mail. It's old people who vote by mail.



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Re: Mike Lindel

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Apr 22 22:29:12 2023, in response to Re: Mike Lindel, posted by AlM on Sat Apr 22 20:05:17 2023.

I used the mail for my IT-201.

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Re: Mike Lindel

Posted by AlM on Sat Apr 22 23:07:36 2023, in response to Re: Mike Lindel, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Apr 22 22:29:12 2023.

You're not a millenial, though. :)

As an absurd generalization, I would guess that millenials generally use tax preparation software and e-file.

I actually e-filed federal for the first time ever, using free fillable forms. I couldn't figure out how to e-file for NY state (not sure if I can't or didn't look hard enough).



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Re: Mike Lindel

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Apr 23 00:26:50 2023, in response to Re: Mike Lindel, posted by AlM on Sat Apr 22 20:05:17 2023.

They had the one activist friend who collected all the ballots from them, maybe he had them sign them, maybe he didn't, and he took care of everything after that

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Re: Mike Lindel

Posted by AlM on Sun Apr 23 05:26:03 2023, in response to Re: Mike Lindel, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Apr 23 00:26:50 2023.

LOL. This huge conspiracy, and not a word of evidence.



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Re: Mike Lindel

Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Apr 23 06:04:43 2023, in response to Re: Mike Lindel, posted by AlM on Sun Apr 23 05:26:03 2023.

Olog is right. I'm referring to one of his posts about voter fraud.

There are places in America where turnout is usually around 45% but somehow when Biden won, turnout was well over that amount, and those votes mostly went to Biden? And that's not suspicious?

I do believe the Democrats found a way to use COVID and absentee ballots to their favor.

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Re: Mike Lindel

Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Apr 23 06:10:23 2023, in response to Re: Mike Lindel, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Apr 23 06:04:43 2023.

Biden got the most votes, beating Obama, but somehow Biden won fewer counties?

That makes sense to people who know what the Democrats are capable of, and motivated to engage in to win.

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Re: Mike Lindel

Posted by mtk52983 on Sun Apr 23 06:58:22 2023, in response to Re: Mike Lindel, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Apr 23 06:10:23 2023.

All that says is Trump’s presence got greater turnout. Both Trump and Biden eclipsed Obama’s 2008 vote totals (Obama got fewer votes in 2012 than 2008). Even more than Obama, Biden was able to use the dislike of his opponent to bring out voters in urban areas that vote overwhelmingly Democrat.

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Re: Mike Lindel

Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Apr 23 07:12:12 2023, in response to Re: Mike Lindel, posted by mtk52983 on Sun Apr 23 06:58:22 2023.

bring out voters in urban areas that vote overwhelmingly Democrat.

Biden didn't bring them out though. They voted by mailing in ballots.

That's the issue.

IIRC Trump got more black votes than any Republican candidate and still lost?

Maybe there are that many white Becky's and cat ladies to offset that. But I doubt it. More likely the Democrats know how to harvest votes.

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Re: Mike Lindel

Posted by mtk52983 on Sun Apr 23 07:30:02 2023, in response to Re: Mike Lindel, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Apr 23 07:12:12 2023.

No it is not more likely. Considering Trump had the second highest vote total EVER by approximately 4,000,000 votes over third place and over 12,000,000 more votes more than any other non-Trump Republican (George W. Bush in 2004 was a little over 62,000,000 voters) it is no surprise he had the highest black vote of any Republican.

By bringing them out I did not mean just on Election Day, I am talking about bringing them out to vote in the election any method legally allowed. Even though I always voted on Election Day since as long as I was able to do so (when I was in college over five hours away from home and classes were not canceled for Election Day I voted absentee), I did vote early and hand delivered my ballot to the local Board of Elections in 2020 as I was concerned about what the turnout would be on Election Day because at my designated voting location the average age of the poll workers is about 90 and the people voting are not much younger so even when there is a short line it takes forever because they don’t understand how to use the iPad system.

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Re: Mike Lindel

Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Apr 23 07:53:26 2023, in response to Re: Mike Lindel, posted by mtk52983 on Sun Apr 23 07:30:02 2023.

Prager U has good solid information available on voter fraud.

Honestly I understand the concept that Trump was so hated people turned out to vote against him. There is truth to it. But I think the Prager video explains how Biden got so many votes in Milwaukee, Maricopa, and Philadelphia counties and won.



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Re: Mike Lindel photo

Posted by Avid Reader on Sun Apr 23 08:25:47 2023, in response to Re: Mike Lindel photo, posted by chicagoMotorman on Sat Apr 22 09:22:55 2023.

Not a problem. For the most part we share the same stance on a great many topics.

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Re: Mike Lindel

Posted by mtk52983 on Sun Apr 23 09:07:50 2023, in response to Re: Mike Lindel, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Apr 23 07:53:26 2023.

No they don’t. The people hired by Republicans in Arizona who were solidly pro-Trump found that Maricopa County actually undercounted legitimate votes for Biden.

Trump is like Hillary in that EVERYONE has a position strongly for or strongly against. When candidates like that are on the ballot it drives turnout. The alternative methods provided during Covid, especially early voting and increased use of hand delivered absentee ballots, did allow for more turnout on all sides.

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Re: Mike Lindel

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Apr 23 10:19:28 2023, in response to Re: Mike Lindel, posted by AlM on Sat Apr 22 23:07:36 2023.

I think the absurd generalization is accurate for everyone since if you go to a tax preparer or accountant, they will use an electronic filing service.

As for New York, they allow electronic submissions only through commercial tax filing software, they have a list on their website. So to file for free if ineligible for “free file”, it has to be mailed.

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Re: Mike Lindel

Posted by AlM on Sun Apr 23 10:51:16 2023, in response to Re: Mike Lindel, posted by mtk52983 on Sun Apr 23 09:07:50 2023.

Trump is like Hillary in that EVERYONE has a position strongly for or strongly against.

Wow, you must have an odd set of acquaintances.

Almost everyone I know was moderately pro-Hillary, while strongly against Trump.

And lots of people who voted for Hillary in the primary were more anti-Bernie than pro-Hillary.




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Re: Mike Lindel

Posted by AlM on Sun Apr 23 11:01:15 2023, in response to Re: Mike Lindel, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Apr 23 10:19:28 2023.

The absurd generalization is invalid in that some millenials (three of them?) do their own taxes.

Thank you for confirming my suspicion about New York.



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Re: Mike Lindel

Posted by Train Dude on Sun Apr 23 11:10:06 2023, in response to Re: Mike Lindel, posted by AlM on Sun Apr 23 10:51:16 2023.

Then again, its more likely that your acquaintances are the ones who are a bit odd.

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Re: Mike Lindel

Posted by Fred G on Sun Apr 23 11:23:47 2023, in response to Re: Mike Lindel, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Apr 23 07:53:26 2023.

I stop listening once I hear Prager U
It’s conservative propaganda

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Re: Mike Lindel

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Apr 23 14:28:51 2023, in response to Re: Mike Lindel, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Apr 23 06:04:43 2023.

This isn’t surprising at all. So many people hated Trump that they were finally convinced voting is important.

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Re: Mike Lindel

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Apr 23 14:34:45 2023, in response to Re: Mike Lindel, posted by mtk52983 on Sun Apr 23 06:58:22 2023.

Which explains why fewer counties. I’m sure that more people voted for Trump in Los Angeles County, which he lost, than voted for him in almost every other county in the country. Republicans are fixated on geography instead of population because that’s all they have.

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Re: Mike Lindel

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Apr 23 14:39:03 2023, in response to Re: Mike Lindel, posted by mtk52983 on Sun Apr 23 07:30:02 2023.

Interestingly, out here the average age of poll workers sank like a stone after they implemented the iPad system. It’s now middle aged to younger seniors.

I voted early for Election Day because I expected lines. It was also the only time I ever voted early on a weekday evening and the second to last* time I voted on a weekday. Weekend voting is the way to do it.

*I voted on Election day in the 2021 mayoral primary.

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Re: Mike Lindel

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Apr 23 14:40:11 2023, in response to Re: Mike Lindel, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Apr 23 07:53:26 2023.

Prager U has good solid information . . .

LOLUCH!

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Re: Mike Lindel

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Apr 23 14:40:51 2023, in response to Re: Mike Lindel, posted by Fred G on Sun Apr 23 11:23:47 2023.

I have watched some PragerU debunking videos.

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Re: Mike Lindel

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Apr 23 18:43:32 2023, in response to Re: Mike Lindel, posted by AlM on Sun Apr 23 05:26:03 2023.

What conspiracy?

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Re: Mike Lindel

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Apr 23 18:44:42 2023, in response to Re: Mike Lindel, posted by mtk52983 on Sun Apr 23 06:58:22 2023.

That's just it, they weren't "brought out", the election sme to their living rooms via mail.

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Re: Mike Lindel

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Apr 23 18:48:34 2023, in response to Re: Mike Lindel, posted by AlM on Sun Apr 23 10:51:16 2023.

Poor Bernie....Shrillary cut him off at the knees.

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Re: Mike Lindel

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Apr 23 18:49:24 2023, in response to Re: Mike Lindel, posted by Train Dude on Sun Apr 23 11:10:06 2023.

Everyone I knew voted for Trump, except 2 , in the 2016 election.

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Re: Mike Lindel

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Apr 23 18:53:22 2023, in response to Re: Mike Lindel, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Apr 23 18:44:42 2023.

Good.

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Re: Mike Lindel

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Apr 23 18:55:00 2023, in response to Re: Mike Lindel, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Apr 23 18:49:24 2023.

The plural of anecdote . . .

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Re: Mike Lindel

Posted by mtk52983 on Sun Apr 23 19:05:13 2023, in response to Re: Mike Lindel, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Apr 23 18:48:34 2023.

You weren’t going to vote for him in the general anyway. You wanted him because it would make the Democrats look bad.

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Re: Mike Lindel

Posted by AlM on Sun Apr 23 19:30:56 2023, in response to Re: Mike Lindel, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Apr 23 18:43:32 2023.

All these activists who canvas all their lazy friends, distribute ballots, and then collect them. Surely they wouldn't all get this idea independently. It would require a centralized activist training organization. Like an organization of community organizers, say.



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Re: Mike Lindel

Posted by AlM on Sun Apr 23 19:32:08 2023, in response to Re: Mike Lindel, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Apr 23 18:48:34 2023.

Shrillary cut him off at the knees.

You mean she got more votes than him.



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Re: Mike Lindel

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Apr 23 20:03:15 2023, in response to Re: Mike Lindel, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Apr 23 18:53:22 2023.

No! We got stuck with Dementia Joe!

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Re: Mike Lindel

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Apr 23 20:05:03 2023, in response to Re: Mike Lindel, posted by mtk52983 on Sun Apr 23 19:05:13 2023.

Oh, absolutely!!! I would vote for Little Rocket Man before Crazy Bernie!

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Re: Mike Lindel

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Apr 23 20:05:37 2023, in response to Re: Mike Lindel, posted by AlM on Sun Apr 23 19:32:08 2023.

She's a sneaky one!

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Re: Mike Lindel

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Apr 23 20:07:39 2023, in response to Re: Mike Lindel, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Apr 23 18:55:00 2023.

I understand that. I was just stating a counterpoint to Lo@lm's how everyone he knew liked Killary.

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Re: Mike Lindel

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Apr 23 20:08:40 2023, in response to Re: Mike Lindel, posted by AlM on Sun Apr 23 19:30:56 2023.

It wasn't formally done, per se.

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Re: Mike Lindel

Posted by AlM on Sun Apr 23 20:18:18 2023, in response to Re: Mike Lindel, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Apr 23 20:05:37 2023.

Nothing sneaky about how she got more votes.



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Re: Mike Lindel

Posted by AlM on Sun Apr 23 20:18:53 2023, in response to Re: Mike Lindel, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Apr 23 20:07:39 2023.

Except that's not what I said.



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Re: Mike Lindel

Posted by AlM on Sun Apr 23 20:19:39 2023, in response to Re: Mike Lindel, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Apr 23 20:08:40 2023.

t wasn't done in any significant amount at all, because there would have been plenty about it in the press if it were a real thing.



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Re: Mike Lindel

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Apr 23 20:27:19 2023, in response to Re: Mike Lindel, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Apr 23 20:07:39 2023.

He didn’t say that at all.

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Re: Mike Lindel

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Apr 23 23:36:17 2023, in response to Re: Mike Lindel, posted by AlM on Sun Apr 23 20:18:18 2023.

They threw him some money to go away.

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