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Re: GOP Senators Demand ''Commission'' To Do ''Emergency'' Audit Of Election Results

Posted by bingbong on Mon Jan 4 09:29:51 2021, in response to Re: GOP Senators Demand ''Commission'' To Do ''Emergency'' Audit Of Election Results, posted by AlM on Mon Jan 4 09:27:57 2021.

And would not have been effective, as the initial wave came from Europe.

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Re: GOP Senators Demand ''Commission'' To Do ''Emergency'' Audit Of Election Results

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jan 4 10:06:36 2021, in response to Re: GOP Senators Demand ''Commission'' To Do ''Emergency'' Audit Of Election Results, posted by mtk52983 on Mon Jan 4 08:34:11 2021.

I don’t agree. While not dispositive, popular vote numbers are interesting nonetheless. Biden’s popularity just shows how unpopular Trump really is, and that must rankle Trump.

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Re: GOP Senators Demand ''Commission'' To Do ''Emergency'' Audit Of Election Results

Posted by bingbong on Mon Jan 4 10:24:13 2021, in response to Re: GOP Senators Demand ''Commission'' To Do ''Emergency'' Audit Of Election Results, posted by AlM on Mon Jan 4 09:24:37 2021.

Which is why all three numbers matter. They are all necessary given the context we have to contend with.

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Re: GOP Senators Demand ''Commission'' To Do ''Emergency'' Audit Of Election Results

Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Mon Jan 4 10:40:09 2021, in response to Re: GOP Senators Demand ''Commission'' To Do ''Emergency'' Audit Of Election Results, posted by AlM on Sun Jan 3 18:41:29 2021.

Not if some of the reps and senators support some disputes and not others.

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Re: GOP Senators Demand ''Commission'' To Do ''Emergency'' Audit Of Election Results

Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Mon Jan 4 10:43:25 2021, in response to Re: GOP Senators Demand ''Commission'' To Do ''Emergency'' Audit Of Election Results, posted by Train Dude on Mon Jan 4 01:03:15 2021.

No, she's badakathcare

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Re: GOP Senators Demand ''Commission'' To Do ''Emergency'' Audit Of Election Results

Posted by AlM on Mon Jan 4 11:15:00 2021, in response to Re: GOP Senators Demand ''Commission'' To Do ''Emergency'' Audit Of Election Results, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jan 4 10:06:36 2021.

Agreed. The total popular vote is interesting, occasionally of importance when someone is trying to allege or refute a "mandate," and legally of no consequence.

It is of great value in terms of trying to make sense of imperfect polling results and preliminary election returns. For example, the fairly complete early returns for GA and MN provided a lot of hope for Biden supporters, because there was factual information available about how those states leaned on the D-R scale in 2016.



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Re: GOP Senators Demand ''Commission'' To Do ''Emergency'' Audit Of Election Results

Posted by pragmatist on Mon Jan 4 11:45:25 2021, in response to Re: GOP Senators Demand ''Commission'' To Do ''Emergency'' Audit Of Election Results, posted by AlM on Mon Jan 4 11:15:00 2021.

On a state by state basis, popular vote can be extremely important, many states set their legal requirements for recounts using popular vote margins.

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Re: GOP Senators Demand ''Commission'' To Do ''Emergency'' Audit Of Election Results

Posted by AlM on Mon Jan 4 11:58:39 2021, in response to Re: GOP Senators Demand ''Commission'' To Do ''Emergency'' Audit Of Election Results, posted by pragmatist on Mon Jan 4 11:45:25 2021.

Right, but I was specifically discussing the importance of the national popular vote.



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Re: GOP Senators Demand ''Commission'' To Do ''Emergency'' Audit Of Election Results

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Jan 4 13:35:47 2021, in response to Re: GOP Senators Demand ''Commission'' To Do ''Emergency'' Audit Of Election Results, posted by AlM on Mon Jan 4 09:27:57 2021.

That's not what xenophobic means!

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Re: GOP Senators Demand ''Commission'' To Do ''Emergency'' Audit Of Election Results

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Jan 4 13:36:49 2021, in response to Re: GOP Senators Demand ''Commission'' To Do ''Emergency'' Audit Of Election Results, posted by AlM on Mon Jan 4 09:27:57 2021.

And also, just so everyone is clear on my stance, there's NOTHING wrong with being xenophobic! Nothing whatsoever.

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Re: GOP Senators Demand ''Commission'' To Do ''Emergency'' Audit Of Election Results

Posted by AlM on Mon Jan 4 13:44:17 2021, in response to Re: GOP Senators Demand ''Commission'' To Do ''Emergency'' Audit Of Election Results, posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Jan 4 13:36:49 2021.

Yes there is. Xenophobia is bad for the well-being of the entire world, and of the United States specifically.


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Re: GOP Senators Demand ''Commission'' To Do ''Emergency'' Audit Of Election Results

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Jan 4 14:29:06 2021, in response to Re: GOP Senators Demand ''Commission'' To Do ''Emergency'' Audit Of Election Results, posted by AlM on Mon Jan 4 13:44:17 2021.

Absolutely not. Lefty's don't like it because it "excludes" outsiders.

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Re: GOP Senators Demand ''Commission'' To Do ''Emergency'' Audit Of Election Results

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Jan 4 14:33:42 2021, in response to Re: GOP Senators Demand ''Commission'' To Do ''Emergency'' Audit Of Election Results, posted by AlM on Mon Jan 4 09:29:29 2021.

We need to be 100% self-sufficient.

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Re: GOP Senators Demand ''Commission'' To Do ''Emergency'' Audit Of Election Results

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Jan 4 14:35:07 2021, in response to Re: GOP Senators Demand ''Commission'' To Do ''Emergency'' Audit Of Election Results, posted by Edwards! on Mon Jan 4 09:27:52 2021.

Who are "you people"? Brooklyn Democrats such as myself? That's kind of odd, wouldn't you say?

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Re: GOP Senators Demand ''Commission'' To Do ''Emergency'' Audit Of Election Results

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jan 4 14:39:01 2021, in response to Re: GOP Senators Demand ''Commission'' To Do ''Emergency'' Audit Of Election Results, posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Jan 4 14:29:06 2021.

Excluding outsiders is bad. It’s a restraint on trade.

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Re: GOP Senators Demand ''Commission'' To Do ''Emergency'' Audit Of Election Results

Posted by AlM on Mon Jan 4 14:40:48 2021, in response to Re: GOP Senators Demand ''Commission'' To Do ''Emergency'' Audit Of Election Results, posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Jan 4 14:33:42 2021.

That is a recipe for poverty.



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Re: GOP Senators Demand ''Commission'' To Do ''Emergency'' Audit Of Election Results

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jan 4 14:44:50 2021, in response to Re: GOP Senators Demand ''Commission'' To Do ''Emergency'' Audit Of Election Results, posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Jan 4 14:33:42 2021.

Didn’t know you were a supporter of Juche.

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Re: GOP Senators Demand ''Commission'' To Do ''Emergency'' Audit Of Election Results

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Jan 4 14:51:56 2021, in response to Re: GOP Senators Demand ''Commission'' To Do ''Emergency'' Audit Of Election Results, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jan 4 14:39:01 2021.

When we are running like a self-sufficient well-oiled machine, THEN we trade in dribs and drabs, to our advantage of course. Fuck outsiders. We can thrive on our own, if we so desire.

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Re: GOP Senators Demand ''Commission'' To Do ''Emergency'' Audit Of Election Results

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Jan 4 14:52:23 2021, in response to Re: GOP Senators Demand ''Commission'' To Do ''Emergency'' Audit Of Election Results, posted by AlM on Mon Jan 4 14:40:48 2021.

Of course not.

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Re: GOP Senators Demand ''Commission'' To Do ''Emergency'' Audit Of Election Results

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jan 4 14:54:22 2021, in response to Re: GOP Senators Demand ''Commission'' To Do ''Emergency'' Audit Of Election Results, posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Jan 4 14:51:56 2021.

What an awful philosophy, and a path to poverty.

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Re: GOP Senators Demand ''Commission'' To Do ''Emergency'' Audit Of Election Results

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Jan 4 14:54:26 2021, in response to Re: GOP Senators Demand ''Commission'' To Do ''Emergency'' Audit Of Election Results, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jan 4 14:44:50 2021.

Eh... I DO agree that Man is the master of his destiny.

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Re: GOP Senators Demand ''Commission'' To Do ''Emergency'' Audit Of Election Results

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jan 4 14:54:36 2021, in response to Re: GOP Senators Demand ''Commission'' To Do ''Emergency'' Audit Of Election Results, posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Jan 4 14:52:23 2021.

Yes, it is.

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Re: GOP Senators Demand ''Commission'' To Do ''Emergency'' Audit Of Election Results

Posted by Train Dude on Mon Jan 4 14:59:21 2021, in response to Re: GOP Senators Demand ''Commission'' To Do ''Emergency'' Audit Of Election Results, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jan 4 14:54:22 2021.

Why ?

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Re: GOP Senators Demand ''Commission'' To Do ''Emergency'' Audit Of Election Results

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jan 4 14:59:49 2021, in response to Re: GOP Senators Demand ''Commission'' To Do ''Emergency'' Audit Of Election Results, posted by Train Dude on Mon Jan 4 14:59:21 2021.

Autarky is terrible.

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Re: GOP Senators Demand ''Commission'' To Do ''Emergency'' Audit Of Election Results

Posted by Train Dude on Mon Jan 4 15:01:39 2021, in response to Re: GOP Senators Demand ''Commission'' To Do ''Emergency'' Audit Of Election Results, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jan 4 14:59:49 2021.

Yeah and you've yet to explain why. Saying it doesn't make it so

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Re: GOP Senators Demand ''Commission'' To Do ''Emergency'' Audit Of Election Results

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jan 4 15:12:16 2021, in response to Re: GOP Senators Demand ''Commission'' To Do ''Emergency'' Audit Of Election Results, posted by Train Dude on Mon Jan 4 15:01:39 2021.

The burden isn't on me. BB is the one who's advocating autarky in the mistaken belief that it's better.

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Re: GOP Senators Demand ''Commission'' To Do ''Emergency'' Audit Of Election Results

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Jan 4 15:24:34 2021, in response to Re: GOP Senators Demand ''Commission'' To Do ''Emergency'' Audit Of Election Results, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jan 4 14:54:22 2021.

No poverty, because once we are self-sustaining, then we trade by OUR terms.

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Re: GOP Senators Demand ''Commission'' To Do ''Emergency'' Audit Of Election Results

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jan 4 15:27:05 2021, in response to Re: GOP Senators Demand ''Commission'' To Do ''Emergency'' Audit Of Election Results, posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Jan 4 15:24:34 2021.

That is not AT ALL how it works. Any attempt at being "self-sustaining" is doomed to failure. Trade increases wealth. Autarky decreases it.

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Re: GOP Senators Demand ''Commission'' To Do ''Emergency'' Audit Of Election Results

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Jan 4 15:29:53 2021, in response to Re: GOP Senators Demand ''Commission'' To Do ''Emergency'' Audit Of Election Results, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jan 4 15:12:16 2021.

It's better because we wouldn't be dependent on others.

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Re: GOP Senators Demand ''Commission'' To Do ''Emergency'' Audit Of Election Results

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jan 4 15:35:20 2021, in response to Re: GOP Senators Demand ''Commission'' To Do ''Emergency'' Audit Of Election Results, posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Jan 4 15:29:53 2021.

That’s not something to strive for.

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Re: GOP Senators Demand ''Commission'' To Do ''Emergency'' Audit Of Election Results

Posted by AlM on Mon Jan 4 15:43:28 2021, in response to Re: GOP Senators Demand ''Commission'' To Do ''Emergency'' Audit Of Election Results, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jan 4 15:27:05 2021.

Bill may not have taken Economics in college. :)



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Re: GOP Senators Demand ''Commission'' To Do ''Emergency'' Audit Of Election Results

Posted by Train Dude on Mon Jan 4 16:07:34 2021, in response to Re: GOP Senators Demand ''Commission'' To Do ''Emergency'' Audit Of Election Results, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jan 4 15:35:20 2021.

Why not? Do you think we're better off dependent on middle east oil for example? I guess you were not around of odd and even gasoline days.

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Re: GOP Senators Demand ''Commission'' To Do ''Emergency'' Audit Of Election Results

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Jan 4 16:11:29 2021, in response to Re: GOP Senators Demand ''Commission'' To Do ''Emergency'' Audit Of Election Results, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jan 4 14:54:36 2021.

It means 100% self-sustainability

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Re: GOP Senators Demand ''Commission'' To Do ''Emergency'' Audit Of Election Results

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jan 4 16:11:47 2021, in response to Re: GOP Senators Demand ''Commission'' To Do ''Emergency'' Audit Of Election Results, posted by Train Dude on Mon Jan 4 16:07:34 2021.

We're not dependent on middle eastern oil anymore. But we're still dependent on trade with a whole host of countries. That's different from being dependent on one other country or group.

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Re: GOP Senators Demand ''Commission'' To Do ''Emergency'' Audit Of Election Results

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jan 4 16:18:33 2021, in response to Re: GOP Senators Demand ''Commission'' To Do ''Emergency'' Audit Of Election Results, posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Jan 4 16:11:29 2021.

Which is called autarky and is a recipe for poverty. I want more wealth for my country.

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Re: GOP Senators Demand ''Commission'' To Do ''Emergency'' Audit Of Election Results

Posted by Jeff Rosen on Mon Jan 4 16:40:41 2021, in response to Re: GOP Senators Demand ''Commission'' To Do ''Emergency'' Audit Of Election Results, posted by AlM on Mon Jan 4 13:44:17 2021.

My favorite example of xenophobia is when an American tourist in a store in a foreign country asks "do you take real money?"

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Re: GOP Senators Demand ''Commission'' To Do ''Emergency'' Audit Of Election Results

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Jan 4 16:43:55 2021, in response to Re: GOP Senators Demand ''Commission'' To Do ''Emergency'' Audit Of Election Results, posted by AlM on Mon Jan 4 15:43:28 2021.

We had to.

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Re: GOP Senators Demand ''Commission'' To Do ''Emergency'' Audit Of Election Results

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jan 4 16:49:25 2021, in response to Re: GOP Senators Demand ''Commission'' To Do ''Emergency'' Audit Of Election Results, posted by Jeff Rosen on Mon Jan 4 16:40:41 2021.

What if they ask that question in Brazil?

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Re: GOP Senators Demand ''Commission'' To Do ''Emergency'' Audit Of Election Results

Posted by AlM on Mon Jan 4 16:52:01 2021, in response to Re: GOP Senators Demand ''Commission'' To Do ''Emergency'' Audit Of Election Results, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jan 4 16:18:33 2021.

Yeah, it's one thing to have your own supply of rare earths. It's another thing totally to insist on self-sufficiency for unimportant stuff that is available from many suppliers.



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Re: GOP Senators Demand ''Commission'' To Do ''Emergency'' Audit Of Election Results

Posted by AlM on Mon Jan 4 16:55:02 2021, in response to Re: GOP Senators Demand ''Commission'' To Do ''Emergency'' Audit Of Election Results, posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Jan 4 16:43:55 2021.

Then you've forgotten a lot of what you learned.



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Re: GOP Senators Demand ''Commission'' To Do ''Emergency'' Audit Of Election Results

Posted by Train Dude on Mon Jan 4 18:07:21 2021, in response to Re: GOP Senators Demand ''Commission'' To Do ''Emergency'' Audit Of Election Results, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jan 4 16:11:47 2021.

President Trump was taking steps to make us non-dependent on foreign trade but make the rest of the world dependent on us. What is the problem with that?

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Re: GOP Senators Demand ''Commission'' To Do ''Emergency'' Audit Of Election Results

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Jan 4 19:51:24 2021, in response to Re: GOP Senators Demand ''Commission'' To Do ''Emergency'' Audit Of Election Results, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jan 4 16:11:47 2021.

Being dependent on trade, and trading because we want to on our terms are 2 different things.

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Re: GOP Senators Demand ''Commission'' To Do ''Emergency'' Audit Of Election Results

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Jan 4 19:59:34 2021, in response to Re: GOP Senators Demand ''Commission'' To Do ''Emergency'' Audit Of Election Results, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jan 4 15:35:20 2021.

Why not?

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Re: GOP Senators Demand ''Commission'' To Do ''Emergency'' Audit Of Election Results

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Jan 4 20:21:54 2021, in response to Re: GOP Senators Demand ''Commission'' To Do ''Emergency'' Audit Of Election Results, posted by AlM on Mon Jan 4 16:52:01 2021.

That's when you trade on YOUR terms.

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Re: GOP Senators Demand ''Commission'' To Do ''Emergency'' Audit Of Election Results

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Jan 4 22:52:09 2021, in response to Re: GOP Senators Demand ''Commission'' To Do ''Emergency'' Audit Of Election Results, posted by AlM on Mon Jan 4 16:55:02 2021.

If I didn't apply it in everyday life, I probably forgot it. The only thing about Economics class was that in order to keep your head above water, a common formula was that your annual earnings have to be above your age in thousands of dollars. Ex: a 45 year old has to make at least 45k a year.

What I said is still true.

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Re: GOP Senators Demand ''Commission'' To Do ''Emergency'' Audit Of Election Results

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jan 4 22:54:56 2021, in response to Re: GOP Senators Demand ''Commission'' To Do ''Emergency'' Audit Of Election Results, posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Jan 4 22:52:09 2021.

That doesn’t sound like economics (the dismal science) at all.

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Re: GOP Senators Demand ''Commission'' To Do ''Emergency'' Audit Of Election Results

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Jan 4 23:34:39 2021, in response to Re: GOP Senators Demand ''Commission'' To Do ''Emergency'' Audit Of Election Results, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jan 4 22:54:56 2021.

Well, I DO remember the professor saying that.

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