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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Dec 1 08:23:42 2020, in response to Re: So Now It Begins, posted by Mitch45 on Tue Dec 1 07:42:28 2020. And you righties always complain about the Hitler comparisons. |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Dec 1 08:23:44 2020, in response to Re: So Now It Begins, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Tue Dec 1 07:17:57 2020. Figures |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Dec 1 08:23:44 2020, in response to Re: So Now It Begins, posted by Mitch45 on Tue Dec 1 07:42:28 2020. And you righties always complain about the Hitler comparisons. |
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Posted by Jeff Rosen on Tue Dec 1 08:23:59 2020, in response to Re: So Now It Begins, posted by bingbong on Mon Nov 30 23:37:48 2020. Insurance should be only for hospitalization. People should pay for their doctor's visits the same way they pay for food and rent. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Dec 1 08:25:29 2020, in response to Re: So Now It Begins, posted by Jeff Rosen on Tue Dec 1 08:23:59 2020. If a person becomes seriously ill, like with cancer or something, most medical expenses are not for “hospitalization.” |
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Posted by Jeff Rosen on Tue Dec 1 08:33:41 2020, in response to Re: So Now It Begins, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Dec 1 08:23:44 2020. That wasn't a comparison. He certainly wasn't comparing Biden to Hitler. He meant that all types of people can have pets. |
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Posted by bingbong on Tue Dec 1 08:35:29 2020, in response to Re: So Now It Begins, posted by Jeff Rosen on Tue Dec 1 08:23:59 2020. LOL! My latest doctors appointment billed at $745 with all the tests involved. |
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Posted by bingbong on Tue Dec 1 08:37:35 2020, in response to Re: So Now It Begins, posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Nov 30 23:56:12 2020. I am. Stop trying to change the subject, hater. |
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Posted by bingbong on Tue Dec 1 08:38:22 2020, in response to Re: So Now It Begins, posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Nov 30 23:56:28 2020. Humanity. Try being one. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Tue Dec 1 09:25:23 2020, in response to Re: So Now It Begins, posted by bingbong on Tue Dec 1 08:35:29 2020. LOL veterinarian bills can be expensive. |
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Posted by chicagomotorman on Tue Dec 1 09:25:42 2020, in response to Re: So Now It Begins, posted by Train Dude on Tue Dec 1 09:25:23 2020. OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO |
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Posted by Mitch45 on Tue Dec 1 09:43:03 2020, in response to Re: So Now It Begins, posted by bingbong on Mon Nov 30 18:10:17 2020. What a stupid remark.Hitler was known to be a great dog lover. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Dec 1 09:44:35 2020, in response to Re: So Now It Begins, posted by Jeff Rosen on Tue Dec 1 08:33:41 2020. But bingbong said “generally.” That could mean Hitler was an exception.People who like pets aren’t necessarily good people but people who don’t like them are usually bad. |
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Posted by AlM on Tue Dec 1 09:49:49 2020, in response to Re: So Now It Begins, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Dec 1 08:25:29 2020. It varies.Some people can die after months in the hospital. |
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Posted by AlM on Tue Dec 1 09:50:28 2020, in response to Re: So Now It Begins, posted by Jeff Rosen on Tue Dec 1 08:23:59 2020. Drugs and tests can also cost tens or hundreds of thousands of dollars for some seriously sick people. |
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Posted by bingbong on Tue Dec 1 09:51:30 2020, in response to Re: So Now It Begins, posted by Train Dude on Tue Dec 1 09:25:23 2020. oh? Tell us all about it. |
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Posted by bingbong on Tue Dec 1 09:52:09 2020, in response to Re: So Now It Begins, posted by Mitch45 on Tue Dec 1 09:43:03 2020. Tells me trump has even less humanity....... |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Dec 1 09:56:27 2020, in response to Re: So Now It Begins, posted by AlM on Tue Dec 1 09:49:49 2020. Irrelevant. The point is that people will still go broke paying medical expenses for a serious illness even if hospitalization is completely free. |
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Posted by AlM on Tue Dec 1 09:57:12 2020, in response to Re: So Now It Begins, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Dec 1 09:56:27 2020. I agree. Just being picky. |
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Posted by bingbong on Tue Dec 1 11:17:17 2020, in response to Re: So Now It Begins, posted by Jeff Rosen on Tue Dec 1 08:20:53 2020. Yes it is. From the beginning of times, people have patched up each other’s wounds, provided cures (within technological confines) for illness and conditions, all essentially altruistically. It is only in the past century+ medicine became wrongly commoditized.. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Tue Dec 1 11:23:29 2020, in response to Re: So Now It Begins, posted by bingbong on Tue Dec 1 09:51:30 2020. Is it true that after your last Gyn appointment, your doctor tried to gouge his own eyes out? |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Dec 1 11:24:00 2020, in response to Re: So Now It Begins, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Dec 1 04:25:46 2020. No, *I* also use the library, garbage, schools, police and fire, highways, etc... Therefore I have no problem with that.As for the EMT bill, LOL!! NONE of the welfare or illegals pay for it! In fact, you know as well as I do, they use it as a glorified taxi service to get to and from the hospitals, because little Juanito is sick. They don't get billed. *I* wind up paying for it via my taxes, for them... |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Dec 1 11:24:34 2020, in response to Re: So Now It Begins, posted by 3-9 on Tue Dec 1 02:44:44 2020. Nah! |
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Posted by Train Dude on Tue Dec 1 11:25:11 2020, in response to Re: So Now It Begins, posted by bingbong on Tue Dec 1 11:17:17 2020. That doesn't make it a right. Show me in the constitution where it is listed in the bill of rights |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Dec 1 11:26:16 2020, in response to Re: So Now It Begins, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Tue Dec 1 07:16:16 2020. I should only pay for my healthcare |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Dec 1 11:32:40 2020, in response to Re: So Now It Begins, posted by bingbong on Tue Dec 1 08:37:35 2020. Noooo... I'm talking about having to pay for other's medical insurance, you saw that I make a valid point, and now you try changing the subject to car insurance. |
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Posted by Jeff Rosen on Tue Dec 1 11:32:47 2020, in response to Re: So Now It Begins, posted by Mitch45 on Tue Dec 1 09:43:03 2020. Will you stop doing that? This is getting ridiculous. I feel like I have deja vu! |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Dec 1 11:33:02 2020, in response to Re: So Now It Begins, posted by Train Dude on Tue Dec 1 11:25:11 2020. She can't. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Dec 1 11:40:03 2020, in response to Re: So Now It Begins, posted by Train Dude on Tue Dec 1 11:25:11 2020. "The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people." U.S. Const., Amend. IX.Not that this proves that healthcare is a right, but it means that the Bill of Rights (or the rest of the Constitution, for that matter) is not at all intended to be an exhaustive list of all human rights. As for how healthcare could be construed as a human right: [T]hat all men are . . . endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men . . . it is the Right of the People to . . . institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.Declaration of Independence [emphasis added]. I know that I hacked that to pieces, but it goes to the argument that people have an INHERENT right to life, and to safety, and that governments are instituted in order to effect* same. It's rather short-sighted to assume that people can form a government that guarantees their safety against other humans, but not against diseases and maladies. You, of all people like to claim that the actions of humans are part of their nature, so why then do you draw a distinction against protection of life against non-human natural forces and that such protection extends only to violence of other humans? *For the benefit of some people with poor vocabulary, I must indicate that I do mean "effect," not "affect." |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Dec 1 11:40:18 2020, in response to Re: So Now It Begins, posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Dec 1 11:33:02 2020. But I can. |
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Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Tue Dec 1 11:51:11 2020, in response to Re: So Now It Begins, posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Dec 1 11:26:16 2020. NOPE |
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Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Tue Dec 1 11:51:38 2020, in response to Re: So Now It Begins, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Dec 1 08:23:26 2020. FIGURES WHAT ?????????????!!!!!!! |
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Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Tue Dec 1 11:52:05 2020, in response to Re: So Now It Begins, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Dec 1 08:23:08 2020. FIGURES WHAT ????????????????????????????????????!!!!!!!!!! |
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Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Tue Dec 1 11:52:30 2020, in response to Re: So Now It Begins, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Dec 1 08:23:44 2020. FIGURES WHAT ????????????????????????????????????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Tue Dec 1 11:53:18 2020, in response to Re: So Now It Begins, posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Dec 1 11:33:02 2020. BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO |
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Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Tue Dec 1 11:53:33 2020, in response to Re: So Now It Begins, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Dec 1 11:40:18 2020. YAY |
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Posted by Train Dude on Tue Dec 1 12:00:15 2020, in response to Re: So Now It Begins, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Dec 1 11:40:18 2020. Doubtful |
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Posted by Train Dude on Tue Dec 1 12:00:41 2020, in response to Re: So Now It Begins, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Dec 1 11:40:18 2020. Doubtful |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Dec 1 12:15:01 2020, in response to Re: So Now It Begins, posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Dec 1 11:24:00 2020. You also use medical care, so what’s the problem? |
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Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Tue Dec 1 12:42:38 2020, in response to Re: So Now It Begins, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Dec 1 12:15:01 2020. IAWTP |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Dec 1 13:02:48 2020, in response to Re: So Now It Begins, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Dec 1 12:15:01 2020. Provided by my employer |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Dec 1 13:05:23 2020, in response to Re: So Now It Begins, posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Dec 1 13:02:48 2020. So what? You think we should all live in company towns with company stores? |
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Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Tue Dec 1 13:15:06 2020, in response to Re: So Now It Begins, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Dec 1 13:05:23 2020. IAWTP |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Dec 1 15:18:26 2020, in response to So Now It Begins, posted by Train Dude on Sun Nov 29 16:12:38 2020. I keep forgetting to improve the subject line whenever I post a response, so he's a dedicated post to that effect. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Dec 1 15:54:21 2020, in response to Re: So Now It Begins, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Tue Dec 1 11:51:11 2020. What do you mean, nope? Isn't that how it should be? |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Dec 1 15:55:10 2020, in response to Re: So Now It Begins, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Dec 1 11:40:18 2020. Where is it? |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Dec 1 15:59:47 2020, in response to Re: So Now It Begins, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Dec 1 11:40:03 2020. That's stretchin'!!! |
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Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Tue Dec 1 16:05:26 2020, in response to Re: So Now It Begins, posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Dec 1 15:54:21 2020. YOU FIGGER THAT OUT YOU ARE THE RIGHT WINGER |
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Posted by AlM on Tue Dec 1 16:07:12 2020, in response to Re: So Now It Begins, posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Dec 1 15:59:47 2020. Yeah, the Declaration of Independence is just chopped liver. |
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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Tue Dec 1 16:44:40 2020, in response to Re: So Now It Begins, posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Dec 1 11:26:16 2020. I can't afford to pay for my healthcare since I have to pay for everyone elses (you should get an itemized report of how many taxes go to healthcare). |
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