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Re: Hang Dianne Feinstein from the nearest lamp post? |
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Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Fri Mar 20 22:11:32 2020, in response to Re: Hang Dianne Feinstein from the nearest lamp post?, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Mar 20 21:01:00 2020. TELL ME WHATS SO LIBERAL AND PROGRESSIVE ABOUT HER ??NOTHING |
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Re: Hang Diane Feinstein from the nearest lamp post? |
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Posted by Chicagomotorman on Fri Mar 20 22:13:22 2020, in response to Re: Hang Diane Feinstein from the nearest lamp post?, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Fri Mar 20 22:10:28 2020. Whateva |
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Re: Hang Dianne Feinstein from the nearest lamp post? |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Mar 20 22:22:13 2020, in response to Re: Hang Diane Feinstein from the nearest lamp post?, posted by Chicagomotorman on Fri Mar 20 22:13:22 2020. I think he's mad that Gavin Newsom ordered him to stay home. |
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Re: Hang Dianne Feinstein from the nearest lamp post? |
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Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Fri Mar 20 22:26:48 2020, in response to Re: Hang Dianne Feinstein from the nearest lamp post?, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Mar 20 22:22:13 2020. NOPEWE WENT SHOPPING TODAY |
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Re: Hang Diane Feinstein from the nearest lamp post? |
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Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Fri Mar 20 22:27:04 2020, in response to Re: Hang Diane Feinstein from the nearest lamp post?, posted by Chicagomotorman on Fri Mar 20 22:13:22 2020. WHAT ? |
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Re: Hang Richard Burr from the nearest lamp post |
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Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sat Mar 21 00:26:21 2020, in response to Re: Hang Richard Burr from the nearest lamp post, posted by AlM on Fri Mar 20 07:27:37 2020. My stock of 20 rolls of TP which I bought in February mean it did a whole lotta good. However, I didn't see that as being one of the first things to go, I just was using up my coupons and taking advantage of sales as I roamed the aisles for food.I was caught flat-footed on hand sanitizer, did not buy any this year (fortunately I found a liter bottle buried in a drawer that expired 3 years ago), surface disinfectant, and paper towels (sponges and scouring pads are an ok substitute for cleaning). I bought a bottle of rubbing alcohol right before they completely ran out thanks to my cat scratching me that week and me realizing how much it would suck to run out. |
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Re: Hang Richard Burr from the nearest lamp post |
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Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sat Mar 21 00:28:41 2020, in response to Re: Hang Richard Burr from the nearest lamp post, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sat Mar 21 00:26:21 2020. I didn't realize your store was restocked - good. Up here you simply cannot get TP if you arrive at any store after 9AM. |
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Re: Hang Kelly Loeffler from the nearest lamp post? |
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Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sat Mar 21 00:31:34 2020, in response to Re: Hang Kelly Loeffler from the nearest lamp post?, posted by AlM on Fri Mar 20 15:25:05 2020. But unlike others here, I don't approve of assuming wrongdoing without evidence.Which gives you more ethics than most MSM journalists (whether they be NY Times or Fox News). |
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Re: Hang Kelly Loeffler from the nearest lamp post? |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Mar 21 01:35:09 2020, in response to Re: Hang Kelly Loeffler from the nearest lamp post?, posted by AlM on Fri Mar 20 15:25:05 2020. I don't approve of assuming wrongdoing without evidenceExcept if the New York Beobachter Slimes says to? |
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Re: Hang Richard Burr from the nearest lamp post? |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Mar 21 01:36:48 2020, in response to Re: Hang Richard Burr from the nearest lamp post, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sat Mar 21 00:26:21 2020. The BJ's near me has a two-pack limit on paper towels now. The only ones they have stocked are Bounty 12-roll packs (all out of Berkeley and Jensen) and they're charging over $31 per pack. |
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Re: Hang Richard Burr from the nearest lamp post? |
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Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sat Mar 21 02:57:43 2020, in response to Re: Hang Richard Burr from the nearest lamp post?, posted by Olog-hai on Sat Mar 21 01:36:48 2020. $31/pack, damn! CVS has a 2 roll limit and charges $3/roll, which is more expensive than $31/12 pack, but I only needed one roll, so I was OK with the high price for it. |
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Re: Hang Dianne Feinstein from the nearest lamp post? |
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Posted by AlM on Sat Mar 21 02:59:26 2020, in response to Re: Hang Dianne Feinstein from the nearest lamp post?, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Mar 20 21:01:00 2020. BTW, did you know that leftism is atheistic?The members of my family who are very regular churchgoers and also socialists provide a counterexample. |
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Re: Hang Kelly Loeffler from the nearest lamp post? |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sat Mar 21 06:33:47 2020, in response to Re: Hang Kelly Loeffler from the nearest lamp post?, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sat Mar 21 00:31:34 2020. Speaking of "ethics", there is this about Loeffler:"It's a similar story with the recently-appointed Loeffler, who told the public on Feb. 28 that Trump and his administration were "doing a great job working to keep Americans healthy & safe." But starting in January, after Loeffler received briefings about the dangers of the coronavirus from health officials, the Daily Beast reports that she and her husband made a series of 27 stock sales that beat the crash — and one stock purchase, in one of the few companies that has seen share prices rise. Who is Loeffler's husband, you may be idly wondering? His name is Jeffrey Sprecher, and he's the chairman of the New York Stock Exchange. An interesting coincidence, no?" via Salon |
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Re: Hang Dianne Feinstein from the nearest lamp post? |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Mar 21 08:52:36 2020, in response to Re: Hang Dianne Feinstein from the nearest lamp post?, posted by AlM on Sat Mar 21 02:59:26 2020. Jesus would have been a socialist. He was a proto-socialist.He was definitely a “liberal.” |
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Re: Hang Kelly Loeffler from the nearest lamp post? |
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Posted by AlM on Sat Mar 21 09:28:20 2020, in response to Re: Hang Kelly Loeffler from the nearest lamp post?, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sat Mar 21 06:33:47 2020. she and her husband made a series of 27 stock salesStill waiting for the evidence that she or her husband authorized those sales, as opposed to their trustees. |
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Re: Hang Kelly Loeffler from the nearest lamp post? |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sat Mar 21 10:40:33 2020, in response to Re: Hang Kelly Loeffler from the nearest lamp post?, posted by AlM on Sat Mar 21 09:28:20 2020. Granted, but the reason I'm highly suspicious is that all journalists, myself included, are detectives to a greater or lesser degree, and we know that in the real world, there is rarely such a thing as true "coincidence".The stocks Loeffler (and the other Senators) sold were exactly the ones you'd expect to see dumped during an accelerating natural disaster like COVID-19. Loeffler cashed out shares in companies like CSX, various hoteliers, and travel services. Trustees taking a chance on going to jail over that? Sorry, no sale. |
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Re: Hang Kelly Loeffler from the nearest lamp post? |
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Posted by Easy on Sat Mar 21 10:52:35 2020, in response to Re: Hang Kelly Loeffler from the nearest lamp post?, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sat Mar 21 10:40:33 2020. Was this unusual for her? When was the last time that she sold that many stocks? |
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Re: Hang Kelly Loeffler from the nearest lamp post? |
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Posted by AlM on Sat Mar 21 10:55:58 2020, in response to Re: Hang Kelly Loeffler from the nearest lamp post?, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sat Mar 21 10:40:33 2020. Loeffler cashed out shares in companies like CSX, various hoteliers, and travel services.The trustees could very well have made those decisions based on publicly available information. The Chinese quarantined Wuhan on January 23. That made another SARS-like outbreak seem very likely. SARS more or less fizzled but certainly put a scare into the travel and hospitality industries. The share sales happened Jan. 24 through Feb. 14. |
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Re: Hang Kelly Loeffler from the nearest lamp post? |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sat Mar 21 11:16:08 2020, in response to Re: Hang Kelly Loeffler from the nearest lamp post?, posted by Easy on Sat Mar 21 10:52:35 2020. That's not the question. The question is why during that timeframe, and why these particular stocks, which are so relevant to current events? |
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Re: Hang Kelly Loeffler from the nearest lamp post? |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sat Mar 21 11:18:16 2020, in response to Re: Hang Kelly Loeffler from the nearest lamp post?, posted by AlM on Sat Mar 21 10:55:58 2020. Yes, and the transactions occurred after the Intelligence Committee meetings that gave her a very clear picture, beyond what was publicly known at that time, of what was coming, and how it would impact certain economic sectors. |
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Re: Hang Kelly Loeffler from the nearest lamp post? |
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Posted by Easy on Sat Mar 21 11:19:08 2020, in response to Re: Hang Kelly Loeffler from the nearest lamp post?, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sat Mar 21 11:16:08 2020. Why is that the question Was the sale of those stocks unusual for the time? |
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Re: Hang Kelly Loeffler from the nearest lamp post? |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sat Mar 21 11:38:43 2020, in response to Re: Hang Kelly Loeffler from the nearest lamp post?, posted by Easy on Sat Mar 21 11:19:08 2020. Given the exigent circumstances, I believe so, for the reasons I already described. |
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Re: Hang Kelly Loeffler from the nearest lamp post? |
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Posted by AlM on Sat Mar 21 11:45:56 2020, in response to Re: Hang Kelly Loeffler from the nearest lamp post?, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sat Mar 21 11:16:08 2020. why these particular stocksBecause at the time of the sale, there was already plenty of public information available that those stocks could be in trouble. You have to demonstrate that non-public information was used to make the sales decisions, which is pretty hard, given that the Chinese government had already quarantined Wuhan. |
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Re: Hang Kelly Loeffler from the nearest lamp post? |
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Posted by AlM on Sat Mar 21 11:48:15 2020, in response to Re: Hang Kelly Loeffler from the nearest lamp post?, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sat Mar 21 11:18:16 2020. You can't establish yet that she passed any non-public information along to the trustees, or recommended those stock sales to the trustees.Right now we're just where Uranium One or Benghazi is in terms of evidence. |
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Re: Hang Kelly Loeffler from the nearest lamp post? |
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Posted by Easy on Sat Mar 21 11:48:32 2020, in response to Re: Hang Kelly Loeffler from the nearest lamp post?, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sat Mar 21 11:38:43 2020. So other trusts and people unrelated to the intelligence commission didn't sell similar stocks?What I'm trying to convey is that you need to get some distance and get a broader understanding of what was happening. You're looking at this through a magnifying glass. Maybe a mile high view might help things make more sense. Maybe it turns out that given the public information all kinds of funds were dumping these same stocks. Or maybe it ends up being additional circumstantial evidence that she used her intelligence info to benefit financially. |
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Re: Hang Kelly Loeffler from the nearest lamp post? |
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Posted by AlM on Sat Mar 21 11:49:35 2020, in response to Re: Hang Kelly Loeffler from the nearest lamp post?, posted by Easy on Sat Mar 21 11:19:08 2020. It was unusual, but it could perfectly well be (unless more evidence comes up) that her trustees made those unusual decisions based on their reading of publicly available information. |
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Re: Hang Kelly Loeffler from the nearest lamp post? |
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Posted by AlM on Sat Mar 21 12:18:25 2020, in response to Re: Hang Kelly Loeffler from the nearest lamp post?, posted by Easy on Sat Mar 21 11:48:32 2020. The stock that Loeffler bought, Citrix, was already going up before the Senate hearing. Obviously some people in the market saw Wuhan and thought, hey this could help an electronic conferencing company. Her trustees very likely were just part of a buy wave.I haven't yet found out what she sold. |
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Re: Hang Kelly Loeffler from the nearest lamp post? |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sat Mar 21 12:34:49 2020, in response to Re: Hang Kelly Loeffler from the nearest lamp post?, posted by AlM on Sat Mar 21 12:18:25 2020. Apparently, no one knows, because Loeffler filed for an extension with the Senate Ethics Committee on disclosure of her portfolio, at the end of January. She doesn't have to reveal her holdings and sakes until May. |
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Re: Hang Kelly Loeffler from the nearest lamp post? |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sat Mar 21 12:35:04 2020, in response to Re: Hang Kelly Loeffler from the nearest lamp post?, posted by AlM on Sat Mar 21 12:18:25 2020. Apparently, no one knows, because Loeffler filed for an extension with the Senate Ethics Committee on disclosure of her portfolio, at the end of January. She doesn't have to reveal her holdings and sales until May. |
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Re: Hang Kelly Loeffler from the nearest lamp post? |
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Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sat Mar 21 22:20:00 2020, in response to Re: Hang Kelly Loeffler from the nearest lamp post?, posted by AlM on Sat Mar 21 11:48:15 2020. Loeffler could take the Katie Hill approach and say that all this scrutiny is just misogyny and it's tough being a woman in Congress. |
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Re: Hang Kelly Loeffler from the nearest lamp post? |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Mar 21 22:23:44 2020, in response to Re: Hang Kelly Loeffler from the nearest lamp post?, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sat Mar 21 22:20:00 2020. And it'd probably work out as well as it did for Katie. |
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Re: Hang Kelly Loeffler from the nearest lamp post? |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Mar 21 22:36:14 2020, in response to Re: Hang Kelly Loeffler from the nearest lamp post?, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sat Mar 21 22:20:00 2020. That article doesn’t blame her resignation on misogyny, it blames it on generational differences.I find the thesis that millennials all have naughty photos in the cloud to be ridiculous. |
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Re: Hang Kelly Loeffler from the nearest lamp post? |
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Posted by DAnD124 on Sat Mar 21 23:08:26 2020, in response to Re: Hang Kelly Loeffler from the nearest lamp post?, posted by AlM on Sat Mar 21 11:48:15 2020. It could be that being married the CEO of the NYSE she hired smarter people to manage her trust than other Senators. |
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Re: Hang Jeff Bezos from the nearest lamp post |
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Posted by DAnD124 on Tue Mar 24 20:48:36 2020, in response to Hang Richard Burr from the nearest lamp post, posted by DAnD124 on Thu Mar 19 20:36:58 2020. https://nypost.com/2020/03/24/jeff-bezoss-stock-sales-before-coronavirus-crash-saved-him-a-fortune/ |
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Re: Hang Jeff Bezos from the nearest lamp post |
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Posted by AlM on Tue Mar 24 20:51:22 2020, in response to Re: Hang Jeff Bezos from the nearest lamp post, posted by DAnD124 on Tue Mar 24 20:48:36 2020. ???If he only relied on public information (like the very public news that China had locked down Wuhan), there would be nothing improper about his actions. |
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Re: Hang Jeff Bezos from the nearest lamp post |
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Posted by DAnD124 on Tue Mar 24 20:56:37 2020, in response to Re: Hang Jeff Bezos from the nearest lamp post, posted by AlM on Tue Mar 24 20:51:22 2020. The Newspaper he owns published articles downplaying the virus while he was selling off his stocks, that might be legal but it amounts to pump and dump. |
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Re: Hang Jeff Bezos from the nearest lamp post |
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Posted by Dave on Tue Mar 24 21:43:18 2020, in response to Re: Hang Jeff Bezos from the nearest lamp post, posted by DAnD124 on Tue Mar 24 20:56:37 2020. but it amounts to pump and dump.No, it does not. "Pump and dump" involves artificially inflating the price of an owned stock through false and misleading positive statements, in order to sell the cheaply purchased stock at a higher price. That's not the case here. |
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Re: Hang Jeff Bezos from the nearest lamp post? |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Mar 24 21:44:16 2020, in response to Re: Hang Jeff Bezos from the nearest lamp post, posted by Dave on Tue Mar 24 21:43:18 2020. pwn3d. |
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Re: Hang Jeff Bezos from the nearest lamp post? |
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Posted by Dave on Tue Mar 24 21:48:20 2020, in response to Re: Hang Jeff Bezos from the nearest lamp post?, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Mar 24 21:44:16 2020. Most definitely! |
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Re: Hang Jeff Bezos from the nearest lamp post |
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Posted by DAnD124 on Tue Mar 24 21:54:40 2020, in response to Re: Hang Jeff Bezos from the nearest lamp post, posted by Dave on Tue Mar 24 21:43:18 2020. I'm aware it doesn't meet the legal definition, if Bezos thought the virus was enough of a threat to sell his stock he should have told the newspaper he owns to sound the alarm instead he had them downplay so he in ordcer to keep the stock price high. |
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Re: Hang Jeff Bezos from the nearest lamp post |
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Posted by Dave on Tue Mar 24 22:05:57 2020, in response to Re: Hang Jeff Bezos from the nearest lamp post, posted by DAnD124 on Tue Mar 24 21:54:40 2020. So he should instruct the editors at WaPo exactly what stories they should run and what slant they should take?LOL! |
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Re: Hang Richard Burr from the nearest lamp post |
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Posted by ntrainride on Wed Mar 25 00:43:25 2020, in response to Re: Hang Richard Burr from the nearest lamp post, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sat Mar 21 00:26:21 2020. good ol' ivory soap works as good as if not better than idiotic and unnecessary (and actually bad for the immune system) "sanitizers" for cleaning hands.plus, unless you live in a s space suit, even if you do remove germs from your skin they will immediately get back onboard. there is no escape. |
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Re: Hang Jeff Bezos from the nearest lamp post |
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Posted by AlM on Wed Mar 25 03:22:16 2020, in response to Re: Hang Jeff Bezos from the nearest lamp post, posted by DAnD124 on Tue Mar 24 20:56:37 2020. WaPo publishes a wide range of opinion pieces. They also published pieces saying the coronavirus was a big threat. And Bezos doesn't exercise editorial control over WaPo. |
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Re: Hang Jeff Bezos from the nearest lamp post |
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Posted by AlM on Wed Mar 25 04:13:11 2020, in response to Re: Hang Jeff Bezos from the nearest lamp post, posted by Dave on Tue Mar 24 21:43:18 2020. That's not the case here.But it would be very close, if Bezos exerted editorial control over WaPo, which he doesn't. This involves artificially |
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Re: Hang Jeff Bezos from the nearest lamp post |
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Posted by Dave on Wed Mar 25 08:26:57 2020, in response to Re: Hang Jeff Bezos from the nearest lamp post, posted by AlM on Wed Mar 25 04:13:11 2020. But it would be very close, if Bezos exerted editorial control over WaPo, which he doesn't.LOL! And if I was two feet taller, I'd be a starter for the Knicks. Close only counts in horseshoes and hand grenades. |
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Re: Hang Jeff Bezos from the nearest lamp post |
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Posted by AlM on Wed Mar 25 08:49:36 2020, in response to Re: Hang Jeff Bezos from the nearest lamp post, posted by Dave on Wed Mar 25 08:26:57 2020. The post I was responding to did not bring up Bezos's lack of editorial control. |
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