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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jan 20 16:24:42 2020, in response to Re: Most Black Americans 'Pessimistic' About US Under Trump, See President As 'Racist': WaPo/Ipsos Poll, posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Jan 20 16:17:46 2020. "Actual numbers" are totally irrelevant and statistically insignificant. |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Jan 20 16:25:35 2020, in response to Re: Most Black Americans 'Pessimistic' About US Under Trump, See President As 'Racist': WaPo/Ipsos Poll, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jan 20 16:17:13 2020. I was talking about past societies, in which abortion, Jim Crow, and criminalized homosexuality existed together. Trump Dude said Roe could be overturned (on that, I think he's absolutely correct), and that would be tantamount to turning back the clock to that earlier time.If Trump gets re-elected (which is also entirely possible), he will have his third SCOTUS judge before 2024, and he will work hard to get Lawrence overturned, too. Trump is already arguing to SCOTUS that LGBTQ people are not protected by the Civil Rights Act. That and his other anti-LGBTQ actions clearly show where he is going. If Roe and Lawrence are both overturned, we WILL be living in the society TD is fervently wishing for. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jan 20 16:26:33 2020, in response to Re: Most Black Americans 'Pessimistic' About US Under Trump, See President As 'Racist': WaPo/Ipsos Poll, posted by New Flyer #857 on Mon Jan 20 16:21:43 2020. I don't see this as likely. Top scientists and women who've had abortions are unlikely to have this opinion. |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Jan 20 16:28:05 2020, in response to Re: Most Black Americans 'Pessimistic' About US Under Trump, See President As 'Racist': WaPo/Ipsos Poll, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jan 20 16:21:25 2020. Yup. And, when I pointed out in a past thread that Blacks are incarcerated way out of proportion to their actual population in America I got ridiculed by the righties here for that approach.So, which is it? |
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Posted by mtk52983 on Mon Jan 20 16:28:39 2020, in response to Re: Most Black Americans 'Pessimistic' About US Under Trump, See President As 'Racist': WaPo/Ipsos Poll, posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Jan 20 16:25:35 2020. Congress has repeatedly rejected opportunities to include sexual orientation so why should the Court do what the legislature does not want to do? |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Jan 20 16:29:03 2020, in response to Re: Most Black Americans 'Pessimistic' About US Under Trump, See President As 'Racist': WaPo/Ipsos Poll, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jan 20 16:24:42 2020. So, then, why the double standard I just pointed out? |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Jan 20 16:30:55 2020, in response to Re: Most Black Americans 'Pessimistic' About US Under Trump, See President As 'Racist': WaPo/Ipsos Poll, posted by mtk52983 on Mon Jan 20 16:28:39 2020. Because the Civil Rights Act did in 1965. Federal courts have upheld that premise. SCOTUS may rule differently on this, but so far, existing case law says LGBTQ people are indeed covered by the Act. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jan 20 16:32:04 2020, in response to Re: Most Black Americans 'Pessimistic' About US Under Trump, See President As 'Racist': WaPo/Ipsos Poll, posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Jan 20 16:28:05 2020. The argument against that is that their proportion of the actual population is irrelevant. People are only incarcerated for crimes. What is the crime rate among the black population? |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jan 20 16:32:39 2020, in response to Re: Most Black Americans 'Pessimistic' About US Under Trump, See President As 'Racist': WaPo/Ipsos Poll, posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Jan 20 16:28:05 2020. And you ignored the statistics then too. It was shown that Blacks, as proportion are more likely to commit crime.I don't have the stats in front of me, but I remember those commiting murder for example were almost identical......but then you ignore, as usual, the fact that Blacks are outnumbered 6 to 1 by whites in proportion to population. That means Blacks are SIX TIMES more likely to commit murder. THose are actual numbers. If you have an equal amount of murders (for example), for both groups of people, yet there are 6 times the numbers of one group, that groups number is still exactly identical as a percentage as the other. And there were many crimes where blacks commited MORE of the crime listed, and they are only 12% of the population. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jan 20 16:34:45 2020, in response to Re: Most Black Americans 'Pessimistic' About US Under Trump, See President As 'Racist': WaPo/Ipsos Poll, posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Jan 20 16:29:03 2020. It's not. What don't you understand about populations numbers. Raw numbers of abortions are similar, yet there are 6 times the number of whites? The number of whites can be SIX TIMES more than the number of blacks having abortion, and their percentage would still be equal. |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Jan 20 16:36:47 2020, in response to Re: Most Black Americans 'Pessimistic' About US Under Trump, See President As 'Racist': WaPo/Ipsos Poll, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jan 20 16:32:04 2020. People are only incarcerated for crimes.Unless you're one of the Central Park Five, Kalief Browder, or one of the countless other POC who have been wrongly incarcerated. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jan 20 16:38:27 2020, in response to Re: Most Black Americans 'Pessimistic' About US Under Trump, See President As 'Racist': WaPo/Ipsos Poll, posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Jan 20 16:36:47 2020. Anecdotal. Unless you are claiming that the higher rate of incarceration among African Americans is due solely to wrongful convictions. |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Jan 20 16:41:08 2020, in response to Re: Most Black Americans 'Pessimistic' About US Under Trump, See President As 'Racist': WaPo/Ipsos Poll, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jan 20 16:32:39 2020. How can 12% of the population be committing six times the number of murders than the other 88%?I posted the FBI's Index Crimes (murder, att. murder, arson, rape, robbery, assault, burglary) statistics, and that's not what those figures indicated. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jan 20 16:41:57 2020, in response to Re: Most Black Americans 'Pessimistic' About US Under Trump, See President As 'Racist': WaPo/Ipsos Poll, posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Jan 20 16:41:08 2020. How about asking him a leading question based on what he's said and not what you think he said. |
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Posted by ntrainride on Mon Jan 20 16:42:59 2020, in response to Re: Most Black Americans 'Pessimistic' About US Under Trump, See President As 'Racist': WaPo/Ipsos Poll, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jan 20 16:17:30 2020. funny how the main proponents of abortion on this board are a doofus who probably hasn't had a girlfriend for, well, always, and who considers developing babies to be "parasites", a homo who finds women "unattractive", which is undoubtedly equivalent to how they feel about him, and a weird lonely female who wants to do "boy stuff" and who can't get pregnant anyway....which is roughly equivalent to the make-up of "women rights" march attendees. |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Jan 20 16:44:30 2020, in response to Re: Most Black Americans 'Pessimistic' About US Under Trump, See President As 'Racist': WaPo/Ipsos Poll, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jan 20 16:38:27 2020. Bias in arrests, prosecutions, and sentencing all play a role in the higher incarceration rate for POC, both valid and invalid.Also, CP5, Browder, and the innumerable POC released, sometimes after decades of prison time, by local Conviction Integrity Unit reviews, aren't "anecdotal" at all. |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Jan 20 16:46:46 2020, in response to Re: Most Black Americans 'Pessimistic' About US Under Trump, See President As 'Racist': WaPo/Ipsos Poll, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jan 20 16:41:57 2020. This is what he said:That means Blacks are SIX TIMES more likely to commit murder. THose are actual numbers. If you have an equal amount of murders (for example), for both groups of people, yet there are 6 times the numbers of one group, that groups number is still exactly identical as a percentage as the other. What does that passage suggest to you? |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Jan 20 16:48:30 2020, in response to Re: Most Black Americans 'Pessimistic' About US Under Trump, See President As 'Racist': WaPo/Ipsos Poll, posted by ntrainride on Mon Jan 20 16:42:59 2020. Funny how you still haven't learned how to capitalize at the beginning of a sentence. You must have dropped out of school before the sixth grade. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Mon Jan 20 16:53:06 2020, in response to Re: Most Black Americans 'Pessimistic' About US Under Trump, See President As 'Racist': WaPo/Ipsos Poll, posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Jan 20 15:56:28 2020. Yeah, lots of homosexuals have abortions |
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Posted by ntrainride on Mon Jan 20 16:53:55 2020, in response to Re: Most Black Americans 'Pessimistic' About US Under Trump, See President As 'Racist': WaPo/Ipsos Poll, posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Jan 20 16:48:30 2020. "a homo who finds women "unattractive"". |
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Posted by ntrainride on Mon Jan 20 16:54:27 2020, in response to Re: Most Black Americans 'Pessimistic' About US Under Trump, See President As 'Racist': WaPo/Ipsos Poll, posted by Train Dude on Mon Jan 20 16:53:06 2020. zing. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jan 20 17:07:05 2020, in response to Re: Most Black Americans 'Pessimistic' About US Under Trump, See President As 'Racist': WaPo/Ipsos Poll, posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Jan 20 16:46:46 2020. That blacks are six times more likely to commit murder, an unfortunate fact. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jan 20 17:08:08 2020, in response to Re: Most Black Americans 'Pessimistic' About US Under Trump, See President As 'Racist': WaPo/Ipsos Poll, posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Jan 20 16:44:30 2020. They are anecdotal to this argument, because two events are not representative. Unless you claim that this is the sole reason why blacks are six times more likely to be convicted of murder. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jan 20 17:23:05 2020, in response to Re: Most Black Americans 'Pessimistic' About US Under Trump, See President As 'Racist': WaPo/Ipsos Poll, posted by Train Dude on Mon Jan 20 14:58:47 2020. And President Trump and Moscow Mitch are working their darndest to make that happen. |
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Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Mon Jan 20 17:37:34 2020, in response to Re: Most Black Americans 'Pessimistic' About US Under Trump, See President As 'Racist': WaPo/Ipsos Poll, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jan 20 17:07:05 2020. NOT ME |
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Posted by AlM on Mon Jan 20 18:40:43 2020, in response to Re: Most Black Americans 'Pessimistic' About US Under Trump, See President As 'Racist': WaPo/Ipsos Poll, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jan 20 17:07:05 2020. Actually, it shows that they are 6 times as likely to be convicted of murder. |
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Posted by AlM on Mon Jan 20 18:45:46 2020, in response to Re: Most Black Americans 'Pessimistic' About US Under Trump, See President As 'Racist': WaPo/Ipsos Poll, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jan 20 17:08:08 2020. There is plenty of reason to believe that a black who commits a murder is more likely to be convicted of the murder than a white who commits a murder.Not 6 times as likely, of course. Also, more killings by whites get downgraded to manslaughter than killings by blacks. |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Mon Jan 20 19:01:04 2020, in response to Re: Most Black Americans 'Pessimistic' About US Under Trump, See President As 'Racist': WaPo/Ipsos Poll, posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Jan 20 16:41:08 2020. I didn't say that. And I didn't say 88% either. Blacks are 12% of the population. Whites are about 72%. That is SIX times that 9f whites. The link from the FBI YOU posted stated that Blacks and Whites commit about the same amount of murders (close in number). Whites are SIX times more prevelant than Blacks in population, yet commit roughly the SAME number of murders. Simple statistics will show you that that means Blacks are SIX times more likely to commit murder. Whites murder numbers could be SIX times the number they actually commit to be equal to Blacks as a proportion of their respective populations |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Mon Jan 20 19:03:16 2020, in response to Re: Most Black Americans 'Pessimistic' About US Under Trump, See President As 'Racist': WaPo/Ipsos Poll, posted by AlM on Mon Jan 20 18:40:43 2020. No it doesn't. For that to be the case, whites would actually have to actually commit SIX times the amount of murders they actually do. |
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Posted by AlM on Mon Jan 20 19:05:53 2020, in response to Re: Most Black Americans 'Pessimistic' About US Under Trump, See President As 'Racist': WaPo/Ipsos Poll, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Mon Jan 20 19:03:16 2020. Huh?You seem to be thinking that I said that blacks are six times as likely to be convicted of a murder for which they are charged than whites are. That's not what I said. |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Mon Jan 20 19:07:03 2020, in response to Re: Most Black Americans 'Pessimistic' About US Under Trump, See President As 'Racist': WaPo/Ipsos Poll, posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Jan 20 16:44:30 2020. Oh stop. For that to be true, whites would actually have to actually commit 6 times more murders than they actually do, and get off for 5 of the 6. Ridiculous. |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Mon Jan 20 19:08:03 2020, in response to Re: Most Black Americans 'Pessimistic' About US Under Trump, See President As 'Racist': WaPo/Ipsos Poll, posted by AlM on Mon Jan 20 18:45:46 2020. You would have to provide stats for this claim. |
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Posted by AlM on Mon Jan 20 19:15:42 2020, in response to Re: Most Black Americans 'Pessimistic' About US Under Trump, See President As 'Racist': WaPo/Ipsos Poll, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Mon Jan 20 19:07:03 2020. It's not clear to me if JayZ is claiming that blacks don't commit crimes at a higher rate than whites. If he is, that is obviously untrue - the disparity in incarceration rates can't be entirely due to miscarriages of justice. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jan 20 19:19:24 2020, in response to Re: Most Black Americans 'Pessimistic' About US Under Trump, See President As 'Racist': WaPo/Ipsos Poll, posted by AlM on Mon Jan 20 19:15:42 2020. Thank you. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jan 20 19:21:59 2020, in response to Re: Most Black Americans 'Pessimistic' About US Under Trump, See President As 'Racist': WaPo/Ipsos Poll, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Mon Jan 20 19:08:03 2020. I believe him, but it’s not going to disprove your claim, because there is no way that 5/6 of the murder convictions are wrongful. |
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Posted by AlM on Mon Jan 20 19:57:06 2020, in response to Re: Most Black Americans 'Pessimistic' About US Under Trump, See President As 'Racist': WaPo/Ipsos Poll, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Mon Jan 20 19:08:03 2020. There are plenty of studies that shows that the justice system is harsher to blacks for the same crime. But that doesn't negate the fact that blacks clearly commit crimes at a greater rate.There is a strong correlation between crime and poverty, and a strong correlation between poverty and being black, so that isn't surprising. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Jan 20 20:03:24 2020, in response to Re: Most Black Americans 'Pessimistic' About US Under Trump, See President As 'Racist': WaPo/Ipsos Poll, posted by AlM on Mon Jan 20 19:57:06 2020. Bullshit. Justice is blind prima facie, HOWEVER, other factors such as previous convictions, criminal record, resisting arrest, etc...determine the exact punishment. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Mon Jan 20 20:06:56 2020, in response to Re: Most Black Americans 'Pessimistic' About US Under Trump, See President As 'Racist': WaPo/Ipsos Poll, posted by AlM on Mon Jan 20 19:57:06 2020. That's just so racist to state facts that portray blacks in a negative light. |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Jan 20 20:10:35 2020, in response to Re: Most Black Americans 'Pessimistic' About US Under Trump, See President As 'Racist': WaPo/Ipsos Poll, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jan 20 19:21:59 2020. 5/6 of all the murder or criminal convictions against defendants of color aren't "wrongful", but here a public defender explains how innocent people are often forced to plead guilty to crimes they didn't commit. This is especially true for Black defendants.It's also one very good reason why the Black incarceration rate is so artificially high. Just the threat of terrifyingly long prison sentences for losing at trial is one reason why so many people--even those who couldn't possibly have committed the crime they were charged with--plead to a lesser offense. It's not quite as cut-and-dry as you think. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Jan 20 20:12:48 2020, in response to Re: Most Black Americans 'Pessimistic' About US Under Trump, See President As 'Racist': WaPo/Ipsos Poll, posted by LuchAAA on Fri Jan 17 15:00:23 2020. No, soley because their governor is a Democrat. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Jan 20 20:14:45 2020, in response to Re: Most Black Americans 'Pessimistic' About US Under Trump, See President As 'Racist': WaPo/Ipsos Poll, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Jan 17 17:17:39 2020. Would it be irrelevant if he was a Republican? |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Jan 20 20:16:27 2020, in response to Re: Most Black Americans 'Pessimistic' About US Under Trump, See President As 'Racist': WaPo/Ipsos Poll, posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Jan 20 20:03:24 2020. How about this, from an article I posted elsewhere in this thread by a public defender, who explains why innocent defendants accept plea bargain for crimes they didn't commit:"The judge turns to you and asks, “Does either counsel know of any reason that I should not accept the defendant’s guilty plea?” You hesitate. You want to shout: “Yes, your honor! This plea is the product of an extortive system of devastating mandatory minimums and lopsided access to evidence. My client faced an impossible choice and is just trying to avoid losing his life to prison.” It says a great many things about why the Black incarceration rate is so artificially high. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Jan 20 20:18:35 2020, in response to Re: Most Black Americans 'Pessimistic' About US Under Trump, See President As 'Racist': WaPo/Ipsos Poll, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sat Jan 18 06:41:33 2020. There's nothing there. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Jan 20 20:20:06 2020, in response to Re: Most Black Americans 'Pessimistic' About US Under Trump, See President As 'Racist': WaPo/Ipsos Poll, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sun Jan 19 20:50:50 2020. Exactly. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Jan 20 20:22:40 2020, in response to Re: Most Black Americans 'Pessimistic' About US Under Trump, See President As 'Racist': WaPo/Ipsos Poll, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Jan 19 21:25:25 2020. Abuela y la muerta. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Jan 20 20:23:20 2020, in response to Re: Most Black Americans 'Pessimistic' About US Under Trump, See President As 'Racist': WaPo/Ipsos Poll, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Jan 19 21:34:16 2020. Eeewww! No thanks! |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Jan 20 20:24:16 2020, in response to Re: Most Black Americans 'Pessimistic' About US Under Trump, See President As 'Racist': WaPo/Ipsos Poll, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sun Jan 19 22:23:13 2020. Shrillary lost to a WWF character! |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Jan 20 20:24:52 2020, in response to Re: Most Black Americans 'Pessimistic' About US Under Trump, See President As 'Racist': WaPo/Ipsos Poll, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Jan 19 22:25:29 2020. They wanted to be the Party in the W.H.. |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Jan 20 20:26:07 2020, in response to Re: Most Black Americans 'Pessimistic' About US Under Trump, See President As 'Racist': WaPo/Ipsos Poll, posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Jan 20 20:18:35 2020. "Nothing there?" I posted three independent links full of evidence. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jan 20 20:28:40 2020, in response to Re: Most Black Americans 'Pessimistic' About US Under Trump, See President As 'Racist': WaPo/Ipsos Poll, posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Jan 20 20:10:35 2020. I don’t doubt that wrongful convictions are higher among blacks, only that they are insufficiently high to explain the higher conviction rate. It is nevertheless a gruesome statistic. |
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