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If Trump Wasn't President, He'd Already Be Indicted |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Apr 28 01:54:55 2019 Two former federal prosecutors make a compelling case that but for Donald Trump's office, he'd have already been indicted for a slew of federal offenses. |
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Re: If Trump Wasn't President, He'd Already Be Indicted |
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Posted by Mitch45 on Sun Apr 28 02:04:01 2019, in response to If Trump Wasn't President, He'd Already Be Indicted, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Apr 28 01:54:55 2019. And if Ihlan Omar wasn't a Congressperson from Minnesota, she'd already have been branded a garden-variety bigot.And if my grandmother had wheels she'd be a skateboard. |
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Re: If Trump Wasn't President, He'd Already Be Indicted |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Apr 28 02:24:40 2019, in response to Re: If Trump Wasn't President, He'd Already Be Indicted, posted by Mitch45 on Sun Apr 28 02:04:01 2019. In other words, you condone criminal behavior by Trump simply because he is President."It's not illegal if the President does it"--Richard Milhous Nixon |
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Re: If Trump Wasn’t President, He’d Already Be Indicted? |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Apr 28 02:31:31 2019, in response to If Trump Wasn't President, He'd Already Be Indicted, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Apr 28 01:54:55 2019. LOL Daily Beast. And double LOL deep-state "former federal prosecutors"; Eric Holder shows what they're about. |
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Re: If Trump Wasn't President, He'd Already Be Indicted |
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Posted by Mitch45 on Sun Apr 28 02:45:43 2019, in response to Re: If Trump Wasn't President, He'd Already Be Indicted, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Apr 28 02:24:40 2019. I will quote to you one of my esteemed law professors about the value if saying "if"."We can 'what if' our way to la-la land but at the end of the day we have to deal with the facts." Right now, Trump is President and Omar is a Congressperson and we have to deal with the protections, fair or unfair, they receive as a result. |
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Re: If Trump Wasn't President, He'd Already Be Indicted |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Apr 28 02:59:25 2019, in response to If Trump Wasn't President, He'd Already Be Indicted, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Apr 28 01:54:55 2019. If Trump wasn't President, the Nationwide TDS would never have investigated him in the first place. Let's call a spade a spade. |
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Re: If Trump Wasn't President, He'd Already Be Indicted |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Apr 28 03:00:04 2019, in response to Re: If Trump Wasn't President, He'd Already Be Indicted, posted by Mitch45 on Sun Apr 28 02:45:43 2019. Amen! |
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Re: If Trump Wasn't President, He'd Already Be Indicted |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Apr 28 03:09:26 2019, in response to Re: If Trump Wasn't President, He'd Already Be Indicted, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Apr 28 02:59:25 2019. Trump's conduct warranted investigation, whether he was president or not. |
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Re: If Trump Wasn't President, He'd Already Be Indicted |
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Posted by Dave on Sun Apr 28 03:25:10 2019, in response to Re: If Trump Wasn't President, He'd Already Be Indicted, posted by Mitch45 on Sun Apr 28 02:45:43 2019. Well said! |
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Re: If Trump Wasn’t President, He’d Already Be Indicted? |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Apr 28 03:41:32 2019, in response to Re: If Trump Wasn't President, He'd Already Be Indicted, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Apr 28 02:59:25 2019. Some people call a spade a shovel. (Technically, a shovel's for "scooping" versus digging.)But then again, "Ace of Shovels" doesn't have the same ring to it. |
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Re: If Trump Wasn’t President, He’d Already Be Indicted? |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Apr 28 03:44:25 2019, in response to Re: If Trump Wasn't President, He'd Already Be Indicted, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Apr 28 02:59:25 2019. Some people call a spade a shovel. (Technically, a shovel's for "scooping" versus digging.)But then again, "Ace of Shovels" doesn't have the same ring to it. PS. I found this graphic on a search for "Ace Of Shovels".  |
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Re: If Trump Wasn't President, He'd Already Be Indicted |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Apr 28 04:02:08 2019, in response to Re: If Trump Wasn't President, He'd Already Be Indicted, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Apr 28 03:09:26 2019. At least you could be honest and admit that this is soley crybaby bullshit because mean ol' Donny won the Presidency. This is how THIS Centrist Democrat sees it. |
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Re: If Trump Wasn’t President, He’d Already Be Indicted? |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Apr 28 04:03:12 2019, in response to Re: If Trump Wasn’t President, He’d Already Be Indicted?, posted by Olog-hai on Sun Apr 28 03:44:25 2019. Lëgohead! |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Apr 28 04:17:39 2019, in response to Re: If Trump Wasn't President, He'd Already Be Indicted, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Apr 28 04:02:08 2019. No, this is a good exposition of the provable federal offenses Trump has already committed, and why he should be charged like any other criminal once he leaves the White House. |
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Posted by AlM on Sun Apr 28 04:25:21 2019, in response to Re: If Trump Wasn't President, He'd Already Be Indicted, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Apr 28 02:59:25 2019. True, but so what? Is it OK to commit crimes like falsification of business records as long as you aren't caught? |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Apr 28 05:14:04 2019, in response to Re: If Trump Wasn't President, He'd Already Be Indicted, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Apr 28 04:17:39 2019. Never gonna happen. You know, ol'Hitlery should be VERY grateful that they are letting sleeping dogs lie. Piss off Trump enough, and she's the next cast member of OITNB |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Apr 28 05:16:30 2019, in response to Re: If Trump Wasn't President, He'd Already Be Indicted, posted by AlM on Sun Apr 28 04:25:21 2019. They reach for low hanging fruit because they know that EVERYONE does it. Trump knows this, and so does Hitlery. |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Apr 28 05:16:47 2019, in response to Re: If Trump Wasn't President, He'd Already Be Indicted, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Apr 28 05:14:04 2019. What provable crime did Hillary commit? |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Apr 28 05:19:50 2019, in response to Re: If Trump Wasn't President, He'd Already Be Indicted, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Apr 28 05:16:47 2019. Her shens haven't been thoroughly dug into yet, like his. I would have them start with the Clinton Initiative. |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Apr 28 05:22:12 2019, in response to Re: If Trump Wasn't President, He'd Already Be Indicted, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Apr 28 05:16:30 2019. Here are four areas from the OP that clearly spell out Trump's criminal conduct:"With so much to consider, it’s helpful to focus on four areas in particular where there are multiple reliable witnesses whose testimony corroborates one another, where some of the acts simply can’t be disputed because they occurred in plain sight, and where the evidence of corrupt intent and connection to pending proceedings are clear: (1) Trump’s efforts to fire Mueller, (2) Trump’s order to falsify evidence about that effort, (3) Trump’s efforts to limit the scope of Mueller’s investigation to exclude his conduct, and (4) Trump’s efforts to try and prevent witnesses from cooperating with investigators probing him and his campaign." All of these things are plainly visible and have been corroborated by other facts. |
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Re: If Trump Wasn't President, He'd Already Be Indicted |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Apr 28 05:27:11 2019, in response to Re: If Trump Wasn't President, He'd Already Be Indicted, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Apr 28 05:19:50 2019. Hillary has undergone four years of continuous investigation, and she provided Congress with 11 consecutive hours of sworn testimony. No finding of criminality was ever made.Trump was investigated for about 18 months, provided no sworn testimony to Congress (he did write, "I don't recall" 37 times in his watered down deposition), and Mueller has found plenty of brooms in his so-called "witch hunt". There is plenty of independently verifiable evidence that Trump is a thug. |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Apr 28 05:28:48 2019, in response to Re: If Trump Wasn't President, He'd Already Be Indicted, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Apr 28 05:19:50 2019. What alleged criminality happened at Clinton's non-profit? |
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Posted by bingbong on Sun Apr 28 05:50:37 2019, in response to Re: If Trump Wasn't President, He'd Already Be Indicted, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Apr 28 04:17:39 2019. Add to that the fact the Constitution mandates Congress is the body to determine the criminal liability (in this case impeaching a president) NOT an Attorneys General appointed by that very president recently. |
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Posted by bingbong on Sun Apr 28 06:11:08 2019, in response to Re: If Trump Wasn't President, He'd Already Be Indicted, posted by Mitch45 on Sun Apr 28 02:45:43 2019. Problem here is that not indicting a President is not law. It’s not even written policy IIRC.Given how many rules, traditions and, yes, laws he has upended maybe he should become the subject of the same. |
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Posted by Dave on Sun Apr 28 06:29:06 2019, in response to Re: If Trump Wasn't President, He'd Already Be Indicted, posted by bingbong on Sun Apr 28 06:11:08 2019. Problem here is that not indicting a President is not law. It’s not even written policy IIRC.WABB! "In 1973, in the midst of the Watergate scandal engulfing President Richard Nixon, the Justice Department’s Office of Legal Counsel adopted in an internal memo the position that a sitting president cannot be indicted. The department reaffirmed the policy in a 2000 memo, saying court decisions in the intervening years had not changed its conclusion that a sitting president is “constitutionally immune” from indictment and criminal prosecution. It concluded that criminal charges against a president would “violate the constitutional separation of powers” delineating the authority of the executive, legislative and judicial branches of the U.S. government. The 1973 and 2000 memos are binding on Justice Department employees, including Mueller, according to many legal experts." https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-russia-indictment-explainer/can-a-sitting-us-president-face-criminal-charges-idUSKCN1QF1D3 |
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Re: If Trump Wasn't President, He'd Already Be Indicted |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Apr 28 06:32:22 2019, in response to Re: If Trump Wasn't President, He'd Already Be Indicted, posted by Dave on Sun Apr 28 06:29:06 2019. Doesn't that fly in the face of that other Constitutional concept, the one that holds no person above the law? |
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Posted by AlM on Sun Apr 28 06:48:14 2019, in response to Re: If Trump Wasn't President, He'd Already Be Indicted, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Apr 28 05:16:30 2019. Well, Hillary has been investigated to death and not ever immune from indictment, and they haven't found anything to pin on her.As for Trump, they found two things almost by accident. |
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Posted by AlM on Sun Apr 28 06:49:23 2019, in response to Re: If Trump Wasn't President, He'd Already Be Indicted, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Apr 28 06:32:22 2019. Dave just points out that it's written policy. It might not be good policy, or even legal, but it is written policy. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Apr 28 06:53:19 2019, in response to Re: If Trump Wasn't President, He'd Already Be Indicted, posted by Mitch45 on Sun Apr 28 02:04:01 2019. Huh? She has been branded a bigot by all reasonable people.The difference is that bigotry in America is not a crime, so there is nothing that she could possibly be prosecuted for, Congressman or not. |
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Posted by Fred G on Sun Apr 28 07:03:56 2019, in response to Re: If Trump Wasn't President, He'd Already Be Indicted, posted by AlM on Sun Apr 28 06:48:14 2019. Anybody who calls her Hitlery isnt on top if the case |
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Posted by Dave on Sun Apr 28 07:09:32 2019, in response to Re: If Trump Wasn't President, He'd Already Be Indicted, posted by AlM on Sun Apr 28 06:49:23 2019. What he said. |
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Posted by chicagomotorman on Sun Apr 28 07:27:24 2019, in response to If Trump Wasn't President, He'd Already Be Indicted, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Apr 28 01:54:55 2019. BULLSHIT! |
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Posted by AlM on Sun Apr 28 07:28:57 2019, in response to Re: If Trump Wasn't President, He'd Already Be Indicted, posted by Fred G on Sun Apr 28 07:03:56 2019. Heh. That's just the tip of the iceberg of Bill's biases. |
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Posted by AlM on Sun Apr 28 07:33:04 2019, in response to Re: If Trump Wasn't President, He'd Already Be Indicted, posted by chicagomotorman on Sun Apr 28 07:27:24 2019. You think the Southern District prosecutors would have overlooked falsification of business records just because Trump is such a nice guy?Martha Stewart went to prison for a lot less. |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Apr 28 07:40:11 2019, in response to Re: If Trump Wasn't President, He'd Already Be Indicted, posted by chicagomotorman on Sun Apr 28 07:27:24 2019. No, it's not. |
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Posted by chicagomotorman on Sun Apr 28 07:43:16 2019, in response to Re: If Trump Wasn't President, He'd Already Be Indicted, posted by AlM on Sun Apr 28 07:33:04 2019. You have yet to answer my question. |
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Posted by chicagomotorman on Sun Apr 28 07:44:33 2019, in response to Re: If Trump Wasn't President, He'd Already Be Indicted, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Apr 28 07:40:11 2019. You only hate President Donald John Trump because he's the president. |
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Posted by bingbong on Sun Apr 28 07:48:36 2019, in response to Re: If Trump Wasn't President, He'd Already Be Indicted, posted by Dave on Sun Apr 28 06:29:06 2019. Whathefuck do you think "IIRC" is all about?Get over anal-retentive self sometime. Grow up. |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Apr 28 07:55:03 2019, in response to Re: If Trump Wasn't President, He'd Already Be Indicted, posted by chicagomotorman on Sun Apr 28 07:44:33 2019. I dislike Trump because he is a bigoted, homophobic, transphobic, misogynistic, megalomaniacal would-be despot, who neither knows nor cares how a functioning democracy should work, and happens to be a thug, to boot, with utter contempt for the rule of law. |
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Posted by bingbong on Sun Apr 28 07:55:03 2019, in response to Re: If Trump Wasn't President, He'd Already Be Indicted, posted by Fred G on Sun Apr 28 07:03:56 2019. Or a centrist, Democratic or independent. |
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Posted by orange blossom special on Sun Apr 28 07:55:39 2019, in response to If Trump Wasn't President, He'd Already Be Indicted, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Apr 28 01:54:55 2019. Buying a "dossier" from the Russians with Saudi money.You wouldn't get away with obstruction of congress and a toilet email server. give it up. |
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Posted by bingbong on Sun Apr 28 07:57:26 2019, in response to Re: If Trump Wasn't President, He'd Already Be Indicted, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Apr 28 07:55:03 2019. And a slumlord. You wouldn't want to rent in any of his properties. |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Apr 28 07:58:38 2019, in response to Re: Lock Her UP!, posted by orange blossom special on Sun Apr 28 07:55:39 2019. Oh, stop shitposting and go take your Risperidone. |
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Posted by chicagomotorman on Sun Apr 28 08:26:34 2019, in response to Re: If Trump Wasn't President, He'd Already Be Indicted, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Apr 28 07:55:03 2019. You didn't start hating Trump till he questioned obama's birth certificate. |
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Posted by chicagomotorman on Sun Apr 28 08:26:58 2019, in response to Re: If Trump Wasn't President, He'd Already Be Indicted, posted by bingbong on Sun Apr 28 07:57:26 2019. You didn't start hating Trump till he questioned obama's birth certificate. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sun Apr 28 08:31:31 2019, in response to Re: If Trump Wasn't President, He'd Already Be Indicted, posted by bingbong on Sun Apr 28 07:57:26 2019. And you couldn't afford to rent any of them |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Apr 28 08:32:59 2019, in response to Re: If Trump Wasn't President, He'd Already Be Indicted, posted by chicagomotorman on Sun Apr 28 08:26:34 2019. I beg to differ. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sun Apr 28 08:33:48 2019, in response to Re: If Trump Wasn't President, He'd Already Be Indicted, posted by AlM on Sun Apr 28 06:49:23 2019. Little Jizzy Bitchslapped again. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sun Apr 28 08:34:58 2019, in response to Re: If Trump Wasn't President, He'd Already Be Indicted, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Apr 28 08:32:59 2019. Begging for what? |
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Posted by bingbong on Sun Apr 28 08:37:17 2019, in response to Re: If Trump Wasn't President, He'd Already Be Indicted, posted by chicagomotorman on Sun Apr 28 08:26:58 2019. Wrong. Native New Yorkers have seen that mug in the news since the seventies. He's always been a bigoted, misogynist craven attention whore., a shady-at-best businessperson/failure (six bankruptcies). Disdain for trump is nothing new in NY. |
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