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Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Wed Mar 20 02:38:26 2019, in response to Re: When An Election Doesn't Go Your Way, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Mar 20 02:07:04 2019. Sorry but I vote *for* a candidate. If there were no 3rd party options I'd have had a few drinks at the bar and given the polling place the finger again on the walk home (though this time the path from the bar to home doesn't involve passing it, it would more be waving in the general direction). |
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Posted by mtk52983 on Wed Mar 20 04:23:43 2019, in response to Re: When An Election Doesn't Go Your Way, posted by TRAIN DUDE on Tue Mar 19 21:34:45 2019. Don’t kid yourself, Mitch McConnell would have gone nuclear regardless of what Harry Reid did or did not do. The only difference would have been that there would have been more vacancies for Trump to fill because no Obama nominees would receive a vote. |
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Posted by AlM on Wed Mar 20 04:34:01 2019, in response to Re: When An Election Doesn't Go Your Way, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Wed Mar 20 01:16:17 2019. Yawn. The plural of anecdote is not data. My point is that for every person like you who didn't bother to vote Republican, there could have been (and probably was) a person who didn't bother to vote Democratic.You don't actually have any evidence. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Mar 20 04:35:39 2019, in response to Re: When An Election Doesn't Go Your Way, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Mar 19 21:20:54 2019. Kim |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Mar 20 04:39:16 2019, in response to Re: When An Election Doesn't Reflect the Will of the People, posted by bingbong on Tue Mar 19 21:36:33 2019. And the E.C. ensures the will of the people |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Mar 20 04:41:48 2019, in response to Re: When An Election Doesn't Go Your Way, posted by bingbong on Tue Mar 19 21:40:01 2019. Yeah, because a one-party system with only narrow-minded (term used correctly) ideas is great for the country! 🙄 |
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Posted by AlM on Wed Mar 20 04:43:23 2019, in response to Re: When An Election Doesn't Go Your Way, posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Mar 19 21:18:38 2019. Leader of the free world! |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Mar 20 04:45:45 2019, in response to Re: When An Election Doesn't Go Your Way, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Mar 19 22:54:06 2019. What part of his post was wrong? |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Mar 20 04:48:40 2019, in response to Re: When An Election Doesn't Go Your Way, posted by AlM on Wed Mar 20 04:43:23 2019. She single-handedly destroyed Germany. And, once again, Donald Trump is the leader of the Free World. |
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Posted by mtk52983 on Wed Mar 20 04:56:51 2019, in response to Re: When An Election Doesn't Reflect the Will of the People, posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Mar 20 04:39:16 2019. No it doesn’t. If it did why is the person who received the most votes President? There are useful purposes for Electoral College, but the will of the voters is not one of them. |
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Posted by Ftgreeneg on Wed Mar 20 04:57:31 2019, in response to Re: When An Election Doesn't Go Your Way, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Tue Mar 19 22:20:55 2019. All trends that started under Obama Trump's taking all the credit for. Obama did all the heavy lifting taking this country out of the economic shit hole not seen since the great depression left by GWB. All Trump had to do was keep the momentum going. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Mar 20 05:00:45 2019, in response to Re: When An Election Doesn't Reflect the Will of the People, posted by mtk52983 on Wed Mar 20 04:56:51 2019. Because of checks and balances. Like I say, we are not a straight Democracy. If they only went by the popular vote, whole sections of this country would feel disenfranchised and would never be represented by the government and the government would never have their best interests in mind. |
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Posted by mtk52983 on Wed Mar 20 05:02:16 2019, in response to Re: When An Election Doesn't Go Your Way, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Tue Mar 19 22:20:55 2019. At this point 4 years ago the Republicans had the virtual civil war in their ranks without a strong frontrunner. Quite frankly it is far too early to make predictions regarding 2020. Would Trump be favored over a majority of the announced candidates from the Democrats, yes, but 18+ months is an eternity in politics. |
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Posted by mtk52983 on Wed Mar 20 05:06:05 2019, in response to Re: When An Election Doesn't Reflect the Will of the People, posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Mar 20 05:00:45 2019. Well maybe those places should work on attracting more people unless cows and trees suddenly count more than people. I do agree that the President should have to do more than running up the vote among the base to win, but let’s not pretend that that is the will of the people. |
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Posted by Fred G on Wed Mar 20 06:16:49 2019, in response to Re: When An Election Doesn't Go Your Way, posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Mar 19 21:16:40 2019. Lol! |
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Posted by Fred G on Wed Mar 20 06:22:36 2019, in response to Re: When An Election Doesn't Go Your Way, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Tue Mar 19 20:31:44 2019. It is a disaster. His tariffs are going to fuck this economy up |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Mar 20 06:32:58 2019, in response to Re: When An Election Doesn't Reflect the Will of the People, posted by mtk52983 on Wed Mar 20 05:06:05 2019. If it's a straight popular vote, the candidates wouldn't even have to do that. The entire country except the coasts, Chicago area, and Austin area would be ignored, as the "American values" would be considered a bad thing by the Dems. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Mar 20 06:34:02 2019, in response to Re: When An Election Doesn't Go Your Way, posted by Fred G on Wed Mar 20 06:16:49 2019. Are YOU mentally the same at 16 as you are now? |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Mar 20 06:52:17 2019, in response to Re: When An Election Doesn't Go Your Way, posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Mar 19 21:16:40 2019. If "kids [at 16] don't know better", why do we punish them as adults when they commit crimes? |
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Posted by Fred G on Wed Mar 20 06:52:20 2019, in response to Re: When An Election Doesn't Go Your Way, posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Mar 20 04:48:40 2019. To be a leader you have to have followers. Nobody’s following Trump. All those other countries did not follow the US out of the agreement with Iran, did not follow the US out of climate change agreements. Trump is a total disaster unless you’re a white supremacist |
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Posted by mtk52983 on Wed Mar 20 06:55:46 2019, in response to Re: When An Election Doesn't Reflect the Will of the People, posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Mar 20 06:32:58 2019. The majority of Americans live in the places that you say lack “American values.” Why should the majority of Americans be disenfranchised? |
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Posted by Fred G on Wed Mar 20 06:57:01 2019, in response to Re: When An Election Doesn't Go Your Way, posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Mar 20 06:34:02 2019. Of course not but I’m not mentally the same as I was when I was 26 either. We all evolve. Other than that I don’t have a problem with keeping the voting age at 18 with one small caveat: If you’re old enough to go to school and face the risk of your school being shot up, then you should be old enough to vote. Or maybe take it a step further; if your school has been shot up then you are allowed to vote. |
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Posted by Fred G on Wed Mar 20 06:58:07 2019, in response to Re: When An Election Doesn't Reflect the Will of the People, posted by mtk52983 on Wed Mar 20 06:55:46 2019. Exactly, shouldn’t the values of the majority be called “American values“? |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Mar 20 07:15:15 2019, in response to Re: When An Election Doesn't Go Your Way, posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Mar 20 06:52:17 2019. They know what's right and wrong by then, but they don't know about politics by then. They will just vote for whoever their favorite music star tells them to |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Mar 20 07:16:54 2019, in response to Re: When An Election Doesn't Go Your Way, posted by Fred G on Wed Mar 20 06:52:20 2019. Why would you I think that white supremacists like him? I would think they wouldn't |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Mar 20 07:28:52 2019, in response to Re: When An Election Doesn't Go Your Way, posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Mar 20 07:16:54 2019. A white Supremacist terrorist endorsed Trump just this past week, after shooting up a mosque.Another one of Trump's "very fine people". |
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Posted by Ftgreeneg on Wed Mar 20 07:37:06 2019, in response to Re: When An Election Doesn't Reflect the Will of the People, posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Mar 20 06:32:58 2019. Ah the ol self centered my values are more American than yours defense. Wouldn't the values of the majority of Americans be considered 'American Values'??? |
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Posted by Ftgreeneg on Wed Mar 20 07:43:05 2019, in response to Re: When An Election Doesn't Go Your Way, posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Mar 20 07:28:52 2019. As Trump continues his tone deaf fight back rhetoric or his 'I got the military and bikers on my side' rhetoric as White Supremacists Trump fanatics continue theirass shootings. Oh yeah almost forgot that racist Steve King and his 'we got more bullets' tweets aren't exactly defusing things. Quite the opposite but then again maybe that's the point... |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Mar 20 07:46:02 2019, in response to Re: When An Election Doesn't Reflect the Will of the People, posted by Ftgreeneg on Wed Mar 20 07:37:06 2019. That's a tricky one. At various times in our history, "majority American values" have opposed things like employment and marriage equality, violent suppression of peaceful protests, the right of LGBT troops to serve in the military, and school integration."Majority values" aren't always right or democratic. |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Mar 20 07:58:40 2019, in response to Re: When An Election Doesn't Reflect the Will of the People, posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Mar 20 07:46:02 2019. Correction: supported violent suppression of peaceful protests.The majority of Americans surveyed after the Kent State shootings, said the unarmed students got what was coming to them. |
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Posted by Fred G on Wed Mar 20 08:18:40 2019, in response to Re: When An Election Doesn't Go Your Way, posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Mar 20 07:15:15 2019. As opposed to voting for whomever the NRA recommends |
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Posted by mtk52983 on Wed Mar 20 08:26:42 2019, in response to Re: When An Election Doesn't Go Your Way, posted by Fred G on Wed Mar 20 08:18:40 2019. Speaking of that, if voting at the age of 16, why don’t we reduce the age at which you can purchase a firearm to 16 as well. |
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Posted by Ftgreeneg on Wed Mar 20 08:29:59 2019, in response to Re: When An Election Doesn't Reflect the Will of the People, posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Mar 20 07:58:40 2019. Preaching to the choir. Back in the day lynching a black person was a hood ol southern night out. I think the same thing when someone alludes to legal being right. Slavery and Jim Crow was legal. |
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Posted by TRAIN DUDE on Wed Mar 20 08:41:13 2019, in response to Re: When An Election Doesn't Go Your Way, posted by mtk52983 on Wed Mar 20 04:23:43 2019. We'll never know that now. Harry Reid broke the egg. |
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Posted by mtk52983 on Wed Mar 20 08:42:35 2019, in response to Re: When An Election Doesn't Go Your Way, posted by TRAIN DUDE on Wed Mar 20 08:41:13 2019. The Republicans were prepared to go nuclear during George W. Bush before “Gang of 14.” |
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Posted by TRAIN DUDE on Wed Mar 20 08:48:57 2019, in response to Re: When An Election Doesn't Go Your Way, posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Mar 20 07:28:52 2019. That is a lie you malignant dwarf. In his manifesto, he debunked that noticed n completely. Little guy- big lie. |
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Posted by TRAIN DUDE on Wed Mar 20 08:50:04 2019, in response to Re: When An Election Doesn't Go Your Way, posted by mtk52983 on Wed Mar 20 08:26:42 2019. Or smoke or drink or marry. |
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Posted by TRAIN DUDE on Wed Mar 20 08:51:00 2019, in response to Re: When An Election Doesn't Go Your Way, posted by mtk52983 on Wed Mar 20 08:42:35 2019. But didn't. It was Harry Reid who did the deed. |
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Posted by WayneJay on Wed Mar 20 09:02:08 2019, in response to Re: When An Election Doesn't Go Your Way, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Tue Mar 19 20:31:44 2019. It's absolutely a disaster. |
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Posted by TRAIN DUDE on Wed Mar 20 09:12:41 2019, in response to Re: When An Election Doesn't Go Your Way, posted by WayneJay on Wed Mar 20 09:02:08 2019. Really? Why not explain how it's almost a disaster. After all, unemployment is lower than under Obama. Growth is nearing 4% while never even 3% under Obama, the only president in modern times to never achieve that level of growth one during his administration. Millions of manufacturing jobs that obama said we're gone for good are now back. Explain about this disaster |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Mar 20 09:13:30 2019, in response to Re: When An Election Doesn't Go Your Way, posted by TRAIN DUDE on Wed Mar 20 08:48:57 2019. "Debunked"?""Were/are you a supporter of Donald Trump?" the author of the manifesto wrote. "As a symbol of renewed white identity and common purpose? Sure." No "lies" found. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Mar 20 09:24:03 2019, in response to Re: When An Election Doesn't Go Your Way, posted by Fred G on Wed Mar 20 06:57:01 2019. A seven-year-old could go to school and get shot up, should they be able to vote? Even though I don't know what a school shooting has to do with voting eligibility? |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Mar 20 09:24:32 2019, in response to Re: When An Election Doesn't Go Your Way, posted by Fred G on Wed Mar 20 08:18:40 2019. You really think people blindly listen to the NRA? |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Mar 20 09:26:28 2019, in response to Re: When An Election Doesn't Go Your Way, posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Mar 20 07:28:52 2019. Actually, have you read all the statements by this guy and did you read everything he said about Donald Trump? I know it's your agenda to say that he praised him, but he gave him half a compliment, and then gave him half of an insult. He said that he's a unifier for the white race but he is a terrible leader and decision maker. That is the context of what he said. How can someone from New Zealand be one of Trump's people? He's a kiwi. |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Mar 20 09:26:49 2019, in response to Re: When An Election Doesn't Go Your Way, posted by TRAIN DUDE on Wed Mar 20 09:12:41 2019. You are such a fucking liar:Job growth for Obama’s eight years: 2009: Negative 422,000 per month Lost 5.1 million jobs (teeth of the recession) 2010: 88,000 per month or 1.05 million for the year 2011: 174,000 per month or 2.09 million 2012: 179,000 per month or 2.14 million 2013: 192,000 per month or 2.3 million 2014: 250,000 per month or 3 million 2015: 226,000 per month or 2.7 million 2016: 187,000 per month or 2.24 million Trump’s through September 2018: 2017: 182,000 per month or 2.19 million Through September 2018: 208,000 per month or 2.5 million run rate BASED ON EMPLOYMENT DATA FROM THE U.S. BUREAU OF LABOR STATISTICS These show that Trump, with a larger numerical workforce than Obama, still only has growth nearly the same as Obama. That's not a gain of more than 1%, as you claim. |
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Posted by Fred G on Wed Mar 20 09:28:42 2019, in response to Re: When An Election Doesn't Go Your Way, posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Mar 20 09:24:03 2019. It's a takeoff on "old enough to fight in a war, old enough to vote". |
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Posted by Fred G on Wed Mar 20 09:30:53 2019, in response to Re: When An Election Doesn't Go Your Way, posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Mar 20 09:24:32 2019. Yes. Others get the message filtered through RWM. |
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Posted by Fred G on Wed Mar 20 09:31:48 2019, in response to Re: When An Election Doesn't Go Your Way, posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Mar 20 09:26:28 2019. I don't think he was inspired by the "terrible leader and decision maker" to shoot up the mosque but rather that other thing. |
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Posted by Fred G on Wed Mar 20 09:38:29 2019, in response to Re: When An Election Doesn't Go Your Way, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Wed Mar 20 02:38:26 2019. You probably wouldn't because the Presidential candidate isn't the only item on the ballot. You'd have local candidates, maybe even ballot initiatives/referenda to vote on and you wouldn't miss that. Do you think people just stay home if there's a hotly contested senatorial or gubernatorial race going on same time as the Presidential election? |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Mar 20 09:45:29 2019, in response to Re: When An Election Doesn't Go Your Way, posted by Fred G on Wed Mar 20 09:31:48 2019. He wasn't inspired by the president of the United States at all to do what he did. |
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