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Re: Pats Owner Kraft Charged In Human Trafficking Investigation
Posted by Spider-Pig* on Sat Feb 23 00:00:14 2019, in response to Re: Pats Owner Kraft Charged In Human Trafficking Investigation, posted by Chicagomotorman on Fri Feb 22 22:58:01 2019.* Would do a lot to lower human trafficking.
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Posted by Spider-Pig* on Sat Feb 23 00:01:10 2019, in response to Re: Pats Owner Kraft Charged In Human Trafficking Investigation, posted by Chicagomotorman on Fri Feb 22 22:58:01 2019.* Would do a lot to lower human trafficking.
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Posted by LuchAAA* on Sat Feb 23 00:01:27 2019, in response to Re: Pats Owner Kraft Charged In Human Trafficking Investigation, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Feb 22 23:39:23 2019.* most women are against prostitution for the reasons I outline. They understand it's competition and don't want men to have easy access to non-committal sex. Someone like Kate Millet(Irish-Catholic) would advocate against prostitution in today's political environment. #irishcatholicism
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Posted by Spider-Pig* on Sat Feb 23 00:03:43 2019, in response to Re: Pats Owner Kraft Charged In Human Trafficking Investigation, posted by LuchAAA on Fri Feb 22 23:18:54 2019.* IAWTP
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Posted by LuchAAA* on Sat Feb 23 00:07:48 2019, in response to Re: Pats Owner Kraft Charged In Human Trafficking Investigation, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Feb 23 00:00:14 2019.* I don't know about that. I think some of these women will age fast and have no marriage options and could extort money out of people by threatening trafficking, rape, etc.....complaints.
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Posted by Olog-hai* on Sat Feb 23 00:08:22 2019, in response to Re: Pats Owner Kraft Charged In Human Trafficking Investigation, posted by LuchAAA on Fri Feb 22 23:57:23 2019.* Irish-Catholicism You fail again. It sure is funny that everyone you call "Irish-Catholic" is not. Especially Sanger; you had to lie about her father too. Looks like I w1n again, sorry.
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Posted by Olog-hai* on Sat Feb 23 00:09:12 2019, in response to Re: Pats Owner Kraft Charged In Human Trafficking Investigation, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Feb 23 00:01:27 2019.* Kate Millett (Irish-Catholic) Repeating a lie doesn't make it the truth.
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Posted by Olog-hai* on Sat Feb 23 00:10:58 2019, in response to Re: Pats Owner Kraft Charged In Human Trafficking Investigation, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Feb 23 00:07:48 2019.* I think Don't lie.
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Posted by LuchAAA* on Sat Feb 23 00:11:36 2019, in response to Re: Pats Owner Kraft Charged In Human Trafficking Investigation, posted by Olog-hai on Sat Feb 23 00:08:22 2019.* you're triggered by Irish-Catholicism. But this chick is another glaring example of the role Irish-Catholic females play in feminism. You're counter is to attack me and pretend these women aren't IC. #irishcatholicism #100kegsorbust #irishass
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Posted by Olog-hai* on Sat Feb 23 00:14:20 2019, in response to Re: Pats Owner Kraft Charged In Human Trafficking Investigation, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Feb 23 00:11:36 2019.* you're triggered by Irish-Catholicism Can't be set off by something that doesn't exist. But I don't like lies. You're (sic) counter is to attack me and pretend these women aren't IC Citing the truth isn't attacking. Only liars say that about the truth. And how can I pretend that they weren't something that they weren't? You can only pretend that they were something they were not.
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Posted by LuchAAA* on Sat Feb 23 00:18:11 2019, in response to Re: Pats Owner Kraft Charged In Human Trafficking Investigation, posted by Olog-hai on Sat Feb 23 00:14:20 2019.* LOlog! When you were looking to make your argument, you probably didn't realize you were making my case for me. Feminism is collectivism and would be against all forms of prostitution for all the reasons I mention. Thanks for the win. I have to go write my macros.
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Posted by Olog-hai* on Sat Feb 23 00:39:09 2019, in response to Re: Pats Owner Kraft Charged In Human Trafficking Investigation, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Feb 23 00:18:11 2019.* Feminism is collectivism and would be against all forms of prostitution Repeating a lie doesn't make it truth, LuchGoebbels. The evidence is against you, particularly when you lie about atheistic collectivists being "Irish-Catholic". Thanks for the win Only in your world is denial of evidence and the truth a "win". Better change your diet, fast. And ignore so-called macronutrients; obsessive counting of them seems to be damaging your brain.
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Posted by 3-9* on Sat Feb 23 00:43:23 2019, in response to Re: Pats Owner Kraft Charged In Human Trafficking Investigation, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Feb 22 22:01:20 2019.* They would not be commodities, they would be service providers.
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Posted by LuchAAA* on Sat Feb 23 00:57:00 2019, in response to Re: Pats Owner Kraft Charged In Human Trafficking Investigation, posted by Olog-hai on Sat Feb 23 00:39:09 2019.* thanks for the w1n you wish you hadn't armed me with another example. #irishcatholicism
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Posted by Olog-hai* on Sat Feb 23 01:21:05 2019, in response to Re: Pats Owner Kraft Charged In Human Trafficking Investigation, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Feb 23 00:57:00 2019.* Right; denying the truth is a win for you. And lying. Typical of liberals to say they're being "attacked" when confronted with the truth.
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Re: Pats Owner Kraft Charged In Human Trafficking Investigation
Posted by Olog-hai* on Sat Feb 23 01:21:52 2019, in response to Re: Pats Owner Kraft Charged In Human Trafficking Investigation, posted by 3-9 on Sat Feb 23 00:43:23 2019.* By that logic, murderers for hire are also "service providers".
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Posted by Fred G* on Sat Feb 23 01:57:34 2019, in response to Re: Pats Owner Kraft Charged In Human Trafficking Investigation, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Feb 22 21:59:09 2019.* Lol!
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Posted by Spider-Pig* on Sat Feb 23 02:01:32 2019, in response to Re: Pats Owner Kraft Charged In Human Trafficking Investigation, posted by Fred G on Sat Feb 23 01:57:34 2019.* This thread could be called “Ology of Terror V.”
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Posted by Fred G* on Sat Feb 23 02:02:10 2019, in response to Re: Pats Owner Kraft Charged In Human Trafficking Investigation, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Feb 23 02:01:32 2019.* Easily. Some of his best material
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Posted by 3-9* on Sat Feb 23 06:03:09 2019, in response to Re: Pats Owner Kraft Charged In Human Trafficking Investigation, posted by Olog-hai on Sat Feb 23 01:21:52 2019.* Yes, they would be. I didn't specify that the service had to be legal.
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Posted by 3-9* on Sat Feb 23 06:03:58 2019, in response to Re: Pats Owner Kraft Charged In Human Trafficking Investigation, posted by Fred G on Sat Feb 23 02:02:10 2019.* He's on a roll. :-)
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Posted by bingbong* on Sat Feb 23 07:55:57 2019, in response to Re: Pats Owner Kraft Charged In Human Trafficking Investigation, posted by LuchAAA on Fri Feb 22 23:23:36 2019.* They say it because they are. No more to it than that.
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Posted by AlM* on Sat Feb 23 08:21:00 2019, in response to Re: Pats Owner Kraft Charged In Human Trafficking Investigation, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Feb 23 02:01:32 2019.* This actually is less crazy than some of his other posts. It's just one of his standard logic errors. Collectivism as performed by Stalin and human trafficking as currently performed are both forms of slavery. Off course, where he goes off the rails is then using collectivism as a synonym for slavery. Collectivism need not be slavery, even though it can be. But one could equally well say that farming is slavery.
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Posted by chicagomotorman* on Sat Feb 23 08:39:17 2019, in response to Re: Pats Owner Kraft Charged In Human Trafficking Investigation, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Feb 23 00:00:14 2019.* Yes it would.
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Posted by chicagomotorman* on Sat Feb 23 08:39:35 2019, in response to Re: Pats Owner Kraft Charged In Human Trafficking Investigation, posted by bingbong on Fri Feb 22 22:09:58 2019.* What about legal brothels?
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Posted by Dyre Dan* on Sat Feb 23 08:58:09 2019, in response to Re: Pats Owner Kraft Charged In Human Trafficking Investigation, posted by chicagomotorman on Fri Feb 22 13:03:54 2019.* "Human trafficking" in this case is just fancy language for "soliciting a prostitute". No evidence at all of anyone being "trafficked" against their will. Also picked up were a former top exec of Citibank or Citicorp, and the head of some buyout firm. Wasn't there a movie about the head of a buyout firm and a prostitute? :=) The woman solicited may not have looked like Julia Roberts (no pictures available as far as I know), but clearly the situation in itself is not something that upsets the public very much.
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Posted by AlM* on Sat Feb 23 09:01:08 2019, in response to Re: Pats Owner Kraft Charged In Human Trafficking Investigation, posted by Dyre Dan on Sat Feb 23 08:58:09 2019.* This article says the police are claiming coercion was involved.
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Posted by Fred G* on Sat Feb 23 09:30:02 2019, in response to Re: Pats Owner Kraft Charged In Human Trafficking Investigation, posted by Dyre Dan on Sat Feb 23 08:58:09 2019.* Human trafficking implies non-consensual sex
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Posted by Dyre Dan* on Sat Feb 23 09:56:04 2019, in response to Re: Pats Owner Kraft Charged In Human Trafficking Investigation, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Feb 22 23:23:45 2019.* -Families are "collectives" of a sort. Anyway, prostitution is an act free-market exchange. If sex is legal, then paying for sex should be legal. It may or may not truly be "the world's oldest profession", but if it's not, it's close. Legalization is supported by the most anti-collectivist people around, libertarians and anarcho-capitalists.
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Posted by AlM* on Sat Feb 23 10:10:50 2019, in response to Re: Pats Owner Kraft Charged In Human Trafficking Investigation, posted by Dyre Dan on Sat Feb 23 09:56:04 2019.* Forcing women into prostitution is not a free market activity however.
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Posted by Fred G* on Sat Feb 23 10:11:23 2019, in response to Re: Pats Owner Kraft Charged In Human Trafficking Investigation, posted by Dyre Dan on Sat Feb 23 09:56:04 2019.* Good post
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Posted by Fred G* on Sat Feb 23 10:12:03 2019, in response to Re: Pats Owner Kraft Charged In Human Trafficking Investigation, posted by AlM on Sat Feb 23 10:10:50 2019.* That is different.
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Posted by Dyre Dan* on Sat Feb 23 11:09:51 2019, in response to Re: Pats Owner Kraft Charged In Human Trafficking Investigation, posted by Fred G on Sat Feb 23 09:30:02 2019.* Yes. But the original stories about Kraft et al. said nothing about that, as far as I know. And Kraft is not charged with any kind of coercion. If there was coercion involved in the running of these businesses, then certainly, the people responsible for that need to be prosecuted. But I would note that making all prostitution operate "in the shadows" makes it easier for such criminal acts to occur.
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Posted by BILLBKLYN* on Sat Feb 23 13:08:49 2019, in response to Re: Pats Owner Kraft Charged In Human Trafficking Investigation, posted by LuchAAA on Fri Feb 22 23:57:23 2019.* Sounds like a French surname.
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Posted by BILLBKLYN* on Sat Feb 23 13:10:22 2019, in response to Re: Pats Owner Kraft Charged In Human Trafficking Investigation, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Feb 23 00:57:00 2019.* Inhad Peter Luger steak last night with bacon as the appetizer, creamed spinach and onion rings as the sides
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Posted by BILLBKLYN* on Sat Feb 23 13:16:12 2019, in response to Re: Pats Owner Kraft Charged In Human Trafficking Investigation, posted by bingbong on Sat Feb 23 07:55:57 2019.* Lots of prostitution is from the woman's free will as well.
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Posted by JayZeeBMT* on Sat Feb 23 13:21:15 2019, in response to Re: Pats Owner Kraft Charged In Human Trafficking Investigation, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sat Feb 23 13:10:22 2019.* How did you pay for that mean, paper or plastic?
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Posted by Olog-hai* on Sat Feb 23 13:37:31 2019, in response to Re: Pats Owner Kraft Charged In Human Trafficking Investigation, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sat Feb 23 13:10:22 2019.* Used to go to Peter Luger's with my late father. I do miss those days.
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Posted by Olog-hai* on Sat Feb 23 13:40:55 2019, in response to Re: Pats Owner Kraft Charged In Human Trafficking Investigation, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sat Feb 23 13:08:49 2019.* It is. Diminutive of Old French "mil". Therefore possibly also Norman. He keeps putting his foot in his mouth incessantly. He must enjoy it.
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Posted by chicagomotorman* on Sat Feb 23 14:31:41 2019, in response to Re: Pats Owner Kraft Charged In Human Trafficking Investigation, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sat Feb 23 13:21:15 2019.* Why don't they accept plastic? (yes I looked up the place)
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Posted by bingbong* on Sat Feb 23 14:51:10 2019, in response to Re: Pats Owner Kraft Charged In Human Trafficking Investigation, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sat Feb 23 13:16:12 2019.* Actually, no. You obviously want to think that's the case, the truth is precisely the opposite. And the women you think “enjoy” it don't, its an act start to finish. (Ever see “Klute”?) There's more gay women doing that work....and they see it as work usually and the end to a better means. Thta's the brighter side of prostitution, usually it’s young women kept strung out on drugs by a pimp...a keeper, and they are treated as property.
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Posted by BILLBKLYN* on Sat Feb 23 15:09:47 2019, in response to Re: Pats Owner Kraft Charged In Human Trafficking Investigation, posted by Fred G on Fri Feb 22 17:15:29 2019.* Good one!
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Posted by BILLBKLYN* on Sat Feb 23 15:37:25 2019, in response to Re: Pats Owner Kraft Charged In Human Trafficking Investigation, posted by bingbong on Sat Feb 23 14:51:10 2019.* Whether or not they enjoy the sex act is irrelevant to my statement. It's an easy way for them to make money, hence which is why they do it.
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Posted by BILLBKLYN* on Sat Feb 23 15:40:11 2019, in response to Re: Pats Owner Kraft Charged In Human Trafficking Investigation, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sat Feb 23 13:21:15 2019.* Nowadays to accept debit cards, but it was always cash or their own credit card. I know a couple of people in there so I never have to call for reservations (alrhough I did this time) and I get a discount. I paid cash.
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Posted by BILLBKLYN* on Sat Feb 23 15:40:30 2019, in response to Re: Pats Owner Kraft Charged In Human Trafficking Investigation, posted by Olog-hai on Sat Feb 23 13:37:31 2019.* Good stuff!
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Posted by BILLBKLYN* on Sat Feb 23 15:41:28 2019, in response to Re: Pats Owner Kraft Charged In Human Trafficking Investigation, posted by Olog-hai on Sat Feb 23 13:40:55 2019.* I like researching European geneology and surnames.
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Posted by BILLBKLYN* on Sat Feb 23 15:41:54 2019, in response to Re: Pats Owner Kraft Charged In Human Trafficking Investigation, posted by chicagomotorman on Sat Feb 23 14:31:41 2019.* Too much of a hassle?
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Posted by JayZeeBMT* on Sat Feb 23 15:42:28 2019, in response to Re: Pats Owner Kraft Charged In Human Trafficking Investigation, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sat Feb 23 15:40:11 2019.* Thanks. Taking a date there next month while in NYC.
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Re: Pats Owner Kraft Charged In Human Trafficking Investigation
Posted by chicagomotorman* on Sat Feb 23 15:51:24 2019, in response to Re: Pats Owner Kraft Charged In Human Trafficking Investigation, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sat Feb 23 15:41:54 2019.* There are no prices on their website menu.
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Re: Pats Owner Kraft Charged In Human Trafficking Investigation
Posted by bingbong* on Sat Feb 23 16:00:18 2019, in response to Re: Pats Owner Kraft Charged In Human Trafficking Investigation, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sat Feb 23 15:37:25 2019.* No, not at all. You're believing what you want to believe, it’s still a lie. No one wants the kinds of abuse prostitutes routinely experience for starters.
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