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Re: Did Tommy Hilfiger really say this?

Posted by Easy on Sat Nov 3 19:10:06 2018, in response to Re: Did Tommy Hilfiger really say this?, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sat Nov 3 19:08:47 2018.

Yes. It occurred to me that snopes believes that democrats have never done anything that needs fact checking. I’m of the opinion that all politicians need fact checking.

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Re: Did Tommy Hilfiger really say this?

Posted by Easy on Sat Nov 3 19:12:23 2018, in response to Re: Did Tommy Hilfiger really say this?, posted by Easy on Sat Nov 3 19:10:06 2018.

Point of fact I do recall them fact checking Obama a few years ago and the result was that he was 100% correct about everything.

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Re: Did Tommy Hilfiger really say this?

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sat Nov 3 19:15:50 2018, in response to Re: Did Tommy Hilfiger really say this?, posted by Easy on Sat Nov 3 19:12:23 2018.

Obama was actually correct, then!

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Re: Did LBJ really say this?

Posted by AlM on Sat Nov 3 19:19:55 2018, in response to Re: Did LBJ really say this?, posted by FtgreeneG on Sat Nov 3 18:04:41 2018.

I think LBJ genuinely believed that racism was wrong. I also believe that he succumbed to expressions of racism when he was in those circles, and also that at times his selfishness overcame his beliefs and he engaged in racist acts just because it was personally convenient for him.


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Re: Did Tommy Hilfiger really say this?

Posted by Easy on Sat Nov 3 19:20:47 2018, in response to Re: Did Tommy Hilfiger really say this?, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sat Nov 3 19:15:50 2018.

Lol. I’m sure that he made some mistakes somewhere but don’t look for them on snopes. Or any other democrat. They definitely have an agenda. They were cool a decade ago but they decided to become political. It makes me trust them less. Not at all really. Not that they aren’t right. I just don’t take their word for anything.

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Re: Did LBJ really say this?

Posted by Easy on Sat Nov 3 19:21:55 2018, in response to Re: Did LBJ really say this?, posted by AlM on Sat Nov 3 19:19:55 2018.

What makes you believe that he believed that racism was wrong? Do you mean like he would have been ok with his kids dating black people?

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Re: Did LBJ really say this?

Posted by AlM on Sat Nov 3 19:25:58 2018, in response to Re: Did LBJ really say this?, posted by Easy on Sat Nov 3 19:21:55 2018.

What makes you believe that he believed that racism was wrong?

Things I've read about how he tried to persuade Senators to vote for the Civil Rights Act of 1964. Again, that doesn't mean he didn't practice it himself.





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Re: Did LBJ really say this?

Posted by Easy on Sat Nov 3 19:31:04 2018, in response to Re: Did LBJ really say this?, posted by AlM on Sat Nov 3 19:25:58 2018.

From what I’ve heard he fought for politics, not morals.

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Re: Did LBJ really say this?

Posted by Fred G on Sat Nov 3 19:36:53 2018, in response to Re: Did LBJ really say this?, posted by Easy on Sat Nov 3 19:31:04 2018.

What political reason do you suppose there would be to guarantee the rights of 10% of the population.?

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Re: Did Tommy Hilfiger really say this?

Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Nov 3 19:42:42 2018, in response to Re: Did Tommy Hilfiger really say this?, posted by Easy on Sat Nov 3 19:10:06 2018.

I’m of the opinion that all politicians need fact checking

That's absolutely true.

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Re: Did LBJ really say this?

Posted by Easy on Sat Nov 3 19:44:38 2018, in response to Re: Did LBJ really say this?, posted by Fred G on Sat Nov 3 19:36:53 2018.

Because that’s where we were as a country. It was becoming inevitable. He didn’t introduce the civil rights act, he signed it. I think that his personal preference would have been to never have to deal with any of it.

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Re: Did Tommy Hilfiger really say this?

Posted by Fred G on Sat Nov 3 19:48:18 2018, in response to Re: Did Tommy Hilfiger really say this?, posted by Easy on Sat Nov 3 19:01:29 2018.

Even if that’s true that doesn’t make the research wrong. According to what I read Snopes devotes 2% of their checking of opinions and 98% to verifiable facts. To me that says it doesn’t really matter which party.

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Re: Did Tommy Hilfiger really say this?

Posted by Easy on Sat Nov 3 19:50:28 2018, in response to Re: Did Tommy Hilfiger really say this?, posted by Fred G on Sat Nov 3 19:48:18 2018.

True. I don’t think that their research is wrong. Just selective.

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Re: Did LBJ really say this?

Posted by Fred G on Sat Nov 3 19:51:40 2018, in response to Re: Did LBJ really say this?, posted by Easy on Sat Nov 3 19:44:38 2018.

From what I’ve read he championed it and had back channel conversations with Martin Luther King while that was going on . Maybe at one time he was not interested in it, maybe he had an epiphany while vice President to JFK, maybe JFK and RFK beat him into submission, I don’t know. Maybe lady bird cut him off until he saw the light LOL

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Re: Did Tommy Hilfiger really say this?

Posted by Fred G on Sat Nov 3 19:52:59 2018, in response to Re: Did Tommy Hilfiger really say this?, posted by Easy on Sat Nov 3 19:50:28 2018.

Real clear politics checked those fact checking sites and snoop came in first with the most accuracy followed by the weekly standard and then I believe politifact

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Re: Did Tommy Hilfiger really say this?

Posted by Fred G on Sat Nov 3 19:53:28 2018, in response to Re: Did Tommy Hilfiger really say this?, posted by Fred G on Sat Nov 3 19:52:59 2018.

Snopes not snoop 😂

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Re: Did Tommy Hilfiger really say this?

Posted by Easy on Sat Nov 3 20:06:18 2018, in response to Re: Did Tommy Hilfiger really say this?, posted by Fred G on Sat Nov 3 19:52:59 2018.

I don’t question their accuracy, just which facts they choose to check. I understand that fact checking Trump is low hanging fruit, but there’s been a pattern over the years.

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Re: Did Tommy Hilfiger really say this?

Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Nov 3 20:09:58 2018, in response to Re: Did Tommy Hilfiger really say this?, posted by Easy on Sat Nov 3 20:06:18 2018.

I understand that fact checking Trump is low hanging fruit

Problem is, they aren't factual and Trump is. And that's easily checkable.

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Re: Did LBJ really say this?

Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Nov 3 20:11:07 2018, in response to Re: Did LBJ really say this?, posted by Easy on Sat Nov 3 19:44:38 2018.

He didn’t introduce the civil rights act, he signed it. I think that his personal preference would have been to never have to deal with any of it

That's probably the nicest way to put it.

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Re: Did Tommy Hilfiger really say this?

Posted by Fred G on Sat Nov 3 20:17:02 2018, in response to Re: Did Tommy Hilfiger really say this?, posted by Olog-hai on Sat Nov 3 20:09:58 2018.

Lol!

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Re: Did Elvis really say this?

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Nov 3 21:42:57 2018, in response to Re: Did Elvis really say this?, posted by Easy on Sat Nov 3 18:38:18 2018.

No.

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Re: Did Tommy Hilfiger really say this?

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Nov 3 21:44:50 2018, in response to Re: Did Tommy Hilfiger really say this?, posted by Easy on Sat Nov 3 19:08:56 2018.

Alexa, post to OTChat.

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Re: Did Tommy Hilfiger really say this?

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Nov 3 21:46:56 2018, in response to Re: Did Tommy Hilfiger really say this?, posted by Easy on Sat Nov 3 19:07:16 2018.

So you don’t believe that Trump lies every time he opens his mouth?

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Re: Did Lauryn Hill really say this?

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Nov 3 21:54:28 2018, in response to Re: Did Lauryn Hill really say this?, posted by Easy on Sat Nov 3 18:56:49 2018.

Autocorrect also doesn't capitalize bell hooks.

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Re: Did Lauryn Hill really say this?

Posted by Catfish 44 on Sat Nov 3 21:56:34 2018, in response to Re: Did Lauryn Hill really say this?, posted by Easy on Sat Nov 3 18:56:49 2018.

It also indicates that its spelled incorrectly.

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Re: Did LBJ really say this?

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sat Nov 3 23:11:13 2018, in response to Re: Did LBJ really say this?, posted by bingbong on Sat Nov 3 16:11:46 2018.

I believe he said that ALL the founding fathers and public figures from 100+ years ago were racist. And I said you just can't give them all a pass except for 2. Either they ALL get a pass, or NONE get a pass.

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Re: Did LBJ really say this?

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sat Nov 3 23:13:31 2018, in response to Re: Did LBJ really say this?, posted by chicagomotorman on Sat Nov 3 17:44:06 2018.

I think he did. He was a good ole boy cracker.

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Re: Did LBJ really say this?

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Nov 3 23:20:15 2018, in response to Re: Did LBJ really say this?, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sat Nov 3 23:11:13 2018.

I don't care about whether they were racist or not. I just care whether they were traitors or not.

All racist heroes get a pass.
No racist traitors get a pass.

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Re: Did LBJ really say this?

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Nov 3 23:21:22 2018, in response to Re: Did LBJ really say this?, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sat Nov 3 23:13:31 2018.

And he gets a pass because he wasn't a traitor.

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Re: Did Elvis really say this?

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sat Nov 3 23:25:53 2018, in response to Re: Did Elvis really say this?, posted by Easy on Sat Nov 3 18:38:18 2018.

Which is ironic, because as a melungeon, he carried black blood in him as they are a tri-racial group.

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Re: Did Elvis really say this?

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Nov 3 23:27:27 2018, in response to Re: Did Elvis really say this?, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sat Nov 3 23:25:53 2018.

It would have been ironic had he actually said it.

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Re: Did Tommy Hilfiger really say this?

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sat Nov 3 23:31:06 2018, in response to Re: Did Tommy Hilfiger really say this?, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sat Nov 3 19:08:47 2018.

The Democrats are MAD GRIMEY!!

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Re: Did LBJ really say this?

Posted by DanD124 on Sat Nov 3 23:33:03 2018, in response to Re: Did LBJ really say this?, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Nov 3 23:20:15 2018.

They're trying to rename things after Unionists as well

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Re: Did LBJ really say this?

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sat Nov 3 23:47:41 2018, in response to Re: Did LBJ really say this?, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Nov 3 23:21:22 2018.

Why should you get a pass 4?

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Re: Did LBJ really say this?

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sat Nov 3 23:47:52 2018, in response to Re: Did LBJ really say this?, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Nov 3 23:21:22 2018.

Why should he get a pass 4?

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Re: Did LBJ really say this?

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sat Nov 3 23:48:37 2018, in response to Re: Did LBJ really say this?, posted by DanD124 on Sat Nov 3 23:33:03 2018.

Yep!

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Re: Did LBJ really say this?

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sat Nov 3 23:50:49 2018, in response to Re: Did LBJ really say this?, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Nov 3 23:20:15 2018.

They should ALL get a pass

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Re: Did Elvis really say this?

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sat Nov 3 23:52:00 2018, in response to Re: Did Elvis really say this?, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Nov 3 23:27:27 2018.

True.

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Re: Did LBJ really say this?

Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Nov 4 00:18:04 2018, in response to Re: Did LBJ really say this?, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sat Nov 3 23:50:49 2018.

Like Gillum did from the undercover FBI guy?

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Re: Did LBJ really say this?

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Nov 4 00:38:21 2018, in response to Re: Did LBJ really say this?, posted by DanD124 on Sat Nov 3 23:33:03 2018.

I know and I disagree with that.

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Re: Did LBJ really say this?

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Nov 4 00:39:50 2018, in response to Re: Did LBJ really say this?, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sat Nov 3 23:47:41 2018.

He didn’t betray his country and take up arms against it.

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Re: Did LBJ really say this?

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Nov 4 00:40:41 2018, in response to Re: Did LBJ really say this?, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sat Nov 3 23:50:49 2018.

FALSE!

NO HONOR TO TRAITORS!

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Re: Did Tommy Hilfiger really say this?

Posted by Easy on Sun Nov 4 00:55:56 2018, in response to Re: Did Tommy Hilfiger really say this?, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Nov 3 21:46:56 2018.

I do. But I also believe that other politicians lie and that sometimes they are democrats. Snopes only looks to see if republicans lie.

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Re: Did Tommy Hilfiger really say this?

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Nov 4 01:17:55 2018, in response to Re: Did Tommy Hilfiger really say this?, posted by Easy on Sun Nov 4 00:55:56 2018.

That may well be true, but it doesn’t mean that Snopes’ information is inaccurate, just selective.

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Re: Did Tommy Hilfiger really say this?

Posted by Easy on Sun Nov 4 01:28:03 2018, in response to Re: Did Tommy Hilfiger really say this?, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Nov 4 01:17:55 2018.

That’s been my point all along.

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Re: Did Tommy Hilfiger really say this?

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Nov 4 02:41:45 2018, in response to Re: Did Tommy Hilfiger really say this?, posted by Easy on Sun Nov 4 00:55:56 2018.

You've personally confirmed this alleged selective bias by reviewing all their political fact-checking, thousands of posts?

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Re: Did LBJ really say this?

Posted by FtgreeneG on Sun Nov 4 03:00:12 2018, in response to Re: Did LBJ really say this?, posted by AlM on Sat Nov 3 19:19:55 2018.

It's also possible his views evolved with time. Or possible he did it for the manipulative reasons above or maybe he was a dutiful VP and wanted to continue JFK's legacy after death. The important part of course is the result.

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Re: Did Tommy Hilfiger really say this?

Posted by Dave on Sun Nov 4 04:50:47 2018, in response to Re: Did Tommy Hilfiger really say this?, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sat Nov 3 19:08:47 2018.

Perhaps Democrats aren't doing things that need fact-checking.

LMAO!

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Re: Did Tommy Hilfiger really say this?

Posted by Dave on Sun Nov 4 04:53:54 2018, in response to Re: Did Tommy Hilfiger really say this?, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Nov 4 02:41:45 2018.

"Perhaps Democrats aren't doing things that need fact-checking."

You've personally confirmed this alleged selective bias by reviewing all their statements?

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Re: Did Tommy Hilfiger really say this?

Posted by Dave on Sun Nov 4 04:58:53 2018, in response to Re: Did Tommy Hilfiger really say this?, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sat Nov 3 18:48:37 2018.



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