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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Nov 10 06:48:55 2017, in response to Re: Roy Moore, posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Nov 10 06:45:34 2017. I know you didn't. Calling somebody who is a man her is like me calling my TV remote control mr. I don't know what people think that they should be called a title because they feel in their mind they identify with it, even though science and vision says otherwise. I am not a female. I am a male. You could throw me in a dress and makeup like Klinger and that does not magically make me a female. Just like that Shawn King Guy and that Dolenz chick wanting to be black at identifying this black, doesn't make them black! That's something you have to be born as! |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Nov 10 06:49:48 2017, in response to Re: Roy Moore, posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Nov 10 06:48:55 2017. And as far as the training thing is concerned, it's not a slur. And anybody who thinks it is, Cowboy Up, motherfuka! LOL LOL |
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Posted by R2ChinaTown on Fri Nov 10 06:49:52 2017, in response to Re: Roy Moore, posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Nov 10 06:00:21 2017. So you reject science, fluffy? What I stated was factual and scientifically correct. Cut the body off of a Ford pinto and weld a mustang body to the chassis, you still don't have a mustang. The DNA of this individual is what it was no matter how you surgically alter the body.The puke inducing fact is that you see this surgery as somehow a qualifying factor for this person to hold office. I am hardly anti-LGBTQ. I don't care what anyone elses sexual preference is other than my own or my partner's. I just disagree that this anti-science qualifies a person for office any more than your deification of it puts you on the side of the Angels. FYF |
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Posted by R2ChinaTown on Fri Nov 10 06:56:03 2017, in response to Re: Roy Moore, posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Nov 10 06:45:34 2017. Well, I too have recently transitioned. I am now British Royalty. From this point on I wish to be referred to as, "SIR JAMES." |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Nov 10 07:17:27 2017, in response to Re: Roy Moore, posted by R2ChinaTown on Fri Nov 10 06:49:52 2017. It is science and facts, but in 2017, you should know as well as anybody, facts don't matter. |
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Posted by R2ChinaTown on Fri Nov 10 07:34:15 2017, in response to Re: Roy Moore, posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Nov 10 07:17:27 2017. Yes, fact. If this person were to commit a violent crime in the near future and leave behind blood or hair evidence, when the police analyze the evidence, they will be looking for a male suspect regardless of what the drivers license says. |
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Posted by R2ChinaTown on Fri Nov 10 07:34:18 2017, in response to Re: Roy Moore, posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Nov 10 07:17:27 2017. Yes, fact. If this person were to commit a violent crime in the near future and leave behind blood or hair evidence, when the police analyze the evidence, they will be looking for a male suspect regardless of what the drivers license says. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Nov 10 07:39:47 2017, in response to Re: Roy Moore, posted by R2ChinaTown on Fri Nov 10 06:49:52 2017. Cut the body off of a Ford pinto and weld a mustang body to the chassis, you still don't have a mustangWell, the Mustang II was based on the Pinto platform, so Ford already did exactly that in 1973. But lots of people (including me) don't regard that one as a real Mustang. |
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Posted by Fred G on Fri Nov 10 07:50:07 2017, in response to Re: Roy Moore, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Nov 10 07:39:47 2017. That wasn't a 'stang and the 70's were awful Ford years. Pinto - Capri - Granada, et al. |
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Posted by bingbong on Fri Nov 10 07:55:10 2017, in response to Re: Roy Moore, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Nov 10 02:34:12 2017. That dish has passed.🙂 |
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Posted by Dave on Fri Nov 10 09:29:36 2017, in response to Re: Roy Moore, posted by R2ChinaTown on Fri Nov 10 06:56:03 2017. I'll call you, "Sir Loin of Beef." Or would you prefer "Sir Osis of the Liver"? |
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Posted by Dave on Fri Nov 10 09:31:29 2017, in response to Re: Roy Moore, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Nov 10 07:39:47 2017. That's because it wasn't. It was yawn-inducing to say the least. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Nov 10 10:07:08 2017, in response to Re: Roy Moore, posted by R2ChinaTown on Fri Nov 10 07:34:15 2017. You obviously don't realize that there are males with XX chromosomes and females with XY chromosomes who look completely normal, don't realize that they have a genetic condition until they fail to hit puberty and have to visit a doctor and until the later 20th century, would not have not have known at all that they have a genetic condition.Determining sex based on genotype doesn't make sense at all. Of course a hateful degenerate like you would ignore facts. |
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Posted by orange blossom special on Fri Nov 10 11:31:21 2017, in response to Re: Roy Moore, posted by R2ChinaTown on Thu Nov 9 19:50:43 2017. Because Amazon...er the "post"(insert beavis and butthead laugh here) had a fill in the blank article that they use for every such election.Then not doing such a mad libs story on the less surprising Jones is the real story of corruption. She must've been in a coma to skip every surpreme court election, judgeship, etc for 4 decades. The Chief Justice is only the highest paid public servent in Ala. |
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Posted by R2ChinaTown on Fri Nov 10 12:30:36 2017, in response to Re: Roy Moore, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Nov 10 10:07:08 2017. DNA is science. Gender identity is liberal voodoo. Misanthropes like you deny science. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Nov 10 12:47:39 2017, in response to Re: Roy Moore, posted by R2ChinaTown on Fri Nov 10 12:30:36 2017. Yep. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Nov 10 12:51:03 2017, in response to Re: Roy Moore, posted by R2ChinaTown on Fri Nov 10 12:30:36 2017. Gender identity is real. So are XX males and XY females.And even if you consider gender dysphoria or whatever its called to be a mental disorder, mental disorders exist too, even if you don't know how they work. |
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Posted by R2ChinaTown on Fri Nov 10 14:50:58 2017, in response to Re: Roy Moore, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Nov 10 12:51:03 2017. According to the literature, Bruce Jenner has XY chromosome. Same for Bradley Manning. So even if I were to accept your argument, the 2 most recnt high profile cases seem not to support your claim. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Nov 10 15:08:02 2017, in response to Re: Roy Moore, posted by R2ChinaTown on Fri Nov 10 14:50:58 2017. What claim? Where have I ever claimed that Caitlyn Jenner and Chelsea Manning have anything other than XY chromosomes? |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Nov 10 15:31:35 2017, in response to Re: Roy Moore, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Nov 10 15:08:02 2017. Who are those people? Aliases? Are they superheroes and that's their superhero names? |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Nov 10 16:32:57 2017, in response to Re: Roy Moore, posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Nov 10 15:31:35 2017. They changed their names, as is their right. |
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Posted by mtk52983 on Fri Nov 10 17:13:24 2017, in response to Re: Roy Moore, posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Nov 10 15:31:35 2017. If one legally changes their name, I am callling that person by his/her new legal name regardless of what his/her birth name is. |
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Posted by R2ChinaTown on Fri Nov 10 17:16:58 2017, in response to Re: Roy Moore, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Nov 10 15:08:02 2017. The claim that gender identity is a science. In science the results are repeatable and prove able. |
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Posted by R2ChinaTown on Fri Nov 10 17:31:26 2017, in response to Re: Roy Moore, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Nov 10 15:08:02 2017. To elaborate; The family policy institute published on June 2, 2015 that despite surgery etc. Bruce/Caitlin Jenner is genetically still a man. Where is the genetic science that led to Jenner's sex reassignment surgery? |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Nov 10 17:59:32 2017, in response to Re: Roy Moore, posted by R2ChinaTown on Fri Nov 10 17:16:58 2017. Here is some gender identity science for you.Condescending dismissal of link in 3...2...1... |
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Posted by R2ChinaTown on Fri Nov 10 18:21:05 2017, in response to Re: Roy Moore, posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Nov 10 17:59:32 2017. No JZ. I looked at your link. The These are unsubstantiated claims of research that has not been verified or duplicated. On the other hand, I cited 2 well known examples that call into question, Pigs citing of the chromosome issue. That was the theory that I was responding to. Show me more studies like the one you linked to,which come to the same hypothesis and I'll be more interested. |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Nov 10 19:06:07 2017, in response to Re: Roy Moore, posted by R2ChinaTown on Fri Nov 10 18:21:05 2017. "Unsubstantiated"?????It's a peer-reviewed academic study, carried out by researchers at a medical school. |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Fri Nov 10 19:25:46 2017, in response to Re: Roy Moore, posted by R2ChinaTown on Fri Nov 10 17:31:26 2017. I wonder how that works come pension time? I worked with a guy named Mark & after gender re-assignment surgery he became Marsha. I'd overhear her talking to the RR retirement people and always refer to her original sex as "When I was known by another name" when benefits distribution was discussed.Would sex change be simply treated simply as a name change when it came time to collect retirement benefits? Just wonderin. |
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Posted by AlM on Fri Nov 10 19:47:49 2017, in response to Re: Roy Moore, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Fri Nov 10 19:25:46 2017. Arizona v Norris says a retirement plan can't give a different benefit based on your gender. So the answer is it doesn't matter. They process your name change and pay you the same benefit as before. |
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Posted by R2ChinaTown on Fri Nov 10 20:42:55 2017, in response to Re: Roy Moore, posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Nov 10 19:06:07 2017. Tell me this then. Did Bruce Jenner have this alleged miswire? Did Bradley Manning have this alleged miswire? |
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Posted by R2ChinaTown on Fri Nov 10 20:45:58 2017, in response to Re: Roy Moore, posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Nov 10 19:06:07 2017. By the way, where were the results of this study duplicated to verify the results. If true, the results should be repeatable every time. |
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Posted by jimmymc25 on Fri Nov 10 20:49:05 2017, in response to Re: Roy Moore, posted by mtk52983 on Fri Nov 10 17:13:24 2017. Same here...it's only right. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Nov 10 22:05:00 2017, in response to Re: Roy Moore, posted by R2ChinaTown on Fri Nov 10 18:21:05 2017. I’m not arguing one way or another whether gender identity is legitimate. I am only arguing that genotype is not and has never been the definitive definition of human sex distinctions. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Nov 10 22:08:37 2017, in response to Re: Roy Moore, posted by R2ChinaTown on Fri Nov 10 17:31:26 2017. The family policy institute sounds like a hate group.What is “genetically still a man?” Are all people with AIS genetically men? Answer that. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Nov 10 22:13:18 2017, in response to Re: Roy Moore, posted by R2ChinaTown on Fri Nov 10 20:42:55 2017. Funny thing is, "miswire" indicates something physically wrong. Doesn't jibe with the notion that transgenderism is something normal. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Nov 10 22:14:33 2017, in response to Re: Roy Moore, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Nov 10 16:32:57 2017. Attention whores. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Nov 10 22:22:16 2017, in response to Re: Roy Moore, posted by jimmymc25 on Fri Nov 10 20:49:05 2017. I've never been into that. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Nov 10 22:25:56 2017, in response to Re: Roy Moore, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Nov 10 22:08:37 2017. A "hate group"? |
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Posted by R2ChinaTown on Fri Nov 10 23:04:31 2017, in response to Re: Roy Moore, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Nov 10 22:05:00 2017. You're not arguing one way or the other but made disparaging remarks about me for my opinion. |
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Posted by R2ChinaTown on Fri Nov 10 23:06:46 2017, in response to Re: Roy Moore, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Nov 10 22:08:37 2017. Sounds like a hate group? Black lives matter sounds like a hate group! |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Fri Nov 10 23:09:45 2017, in response to Re: Roy Moore, posted by AlM on Fri Nov 10 19:47:49 2017. Ok Thanks! |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Nov 11 00:03:25 2017, in response to Re: Roy Moore, posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Nov 10 22:25:56 2017. Heh. Sounds like how the SPLC defines "hate groups". |
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Posted by Fred G on Sat Nov 11 06:50:10 2017, in response to Re: Roy Moore, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Nov 10 22:08:37 2017. The family policy Institute is an anti-LGBT group. Obviously they’re gonna say anti-LGBT things. I hope nobody’s presenting them as some kind of Scientific evidence. |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sat Nov 11 07:09:09 2017, in response to Re: Roy Moore, posted by Fred G on Sat Nov 11 06:50:10 2017. R2 Chinatown is. |
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Posted by R2ChinaTown on Sat Nov 11 08:10:34 2017, in response to Re: Roy Moore, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sat Nov 11 07:09:09 2017. So far you have provided nothing. Show me where Bradley Manning or Bruce Jenner were found to have a documented instance of the condition you are suggesting. |
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Posted by bingbong on Sat Nov 11 08:17:57 2017, in response to Re: Roy Moore, posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Nov 10 22:25:56 2017. They are. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sat Nov 11 08:20:51 2017, in response to Re: Roy Moore, posted by bingbong on Sat Nov 11 08:17:57 2017. But you think everything and everyone is a hate group! |
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Posted by R2ChinaTown on Sat Nov 11 08:23:26 2017, in response to Re: Roy Moore, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sat Nov 11 08:20:51 2017. No, she just finds any group who's agenda she doesn't support to be a hate group and anyone who doesn't agree with her to be a hater. No wonder her former husband was so pussy whipped. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sat Nov 11 08:31:43 2017, in response to Re: Roy Moore, posted by R2ChinaTown on Sat Nov 11 08:23:26 2017. Which is more or less, everything! |
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Posted by bingbong on Sat Nov 11 09:16:23 2017, in response to Re: Roy Moore, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sat Nov 11 08:31:43 2017. Hardly. |
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