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Re: A Harmless Symbol of Democratic Party Heritage

Posted by chicagomotorman on Wed Jun 24 21:37:14 2015, in response to Re: A Harmless Symbol of Democratic Party Heritage, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Jun 24 20:45:56 2015.

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Lol.

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Re: A Harmless Symbol of Democratic Party Heritage—and now Sales are Skyrocketing

Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jun 24 22:20:13 2015, in response to Re: A Harmless Symbol of Democratic Party Heritage—and now Sales are Skyrocketing, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Jun 24 15:09:41 2015.

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Guess what: my name is not Olog-hai either.

Does your driver's license say "Chicagomotorman"? How about your birth certificate?

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Re: A Harmless Symbol of Democratic Party Heritage—and now Sales are Skyrocketing

Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Thu Jun 25 11:14:49 2015, in response to Re: A Harmless Symbol of Democratic Party Heritage—and now Sales are Skyrocketing, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jun 24 18:00:04 2015.

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/whois name

Darn, didn't work :)

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Re: A Harmless Symbol of Southern Heritage

Posted by Jeff Rosen on Thu Jun 25 16:30:48 2015, in response to Re: A Harmless Symbol of Southern Heritage, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Jun 21 20:37:16 2015.

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Good analogy.

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Re: A Harmless Symbol of Southern Heritage

Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Fri Jun 26 12:40:10 2015, in response to Re: A Harmless Symbol of Southern Heritage, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jun 24 12:12:34 2015.

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I think Kim said it best :)



NSFW language!!!



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Re: A Harmless Symbol of Southern Heritage

Posted by SMAZ on Sun Jul 19 10:57:54 2015, in response to A Harmless Symbol of Southern Heritage, posted by SMAZ on Sat Jun 20 17:10:29 2015.

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Re: A Harmless Symbol of Southern Heritage

Posted by R2ChinaTown on Sun Jul 19 11:11:49 2015, in response to Re: A Harmless Symbol of Southern Heritage, posted by SMAZ on Sun Jul 19 10:57:54 2015.

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Re: A Harmless Symbol of Southern Heritage

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sun Jul 19 13:34:30 2015, in response to Re: A Harmless Symbol of Southern Heritage, posted by SMAZ on Sun Jul 19 10:57:54 2015.

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OK I don't like the kkk, or the nazis. Are you happy?

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Re: A Harmless Symbol of Southern Heritage

Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Jul 19 16:51:31 2015, in response to Re: A Harmless Symbol of Southern Heritage, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sun Jul 19 13:34:30 2015.

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did you like Gold's Gym?



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Re: A Harmless Symbol of Southern Heritage

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sun Jul 19 18:35:36 2015, in response to Re: A Harmless Symbol of Southern Heritage, posted by SMAZ on Sun Jul 19 10:57:54 2015.

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uh huh

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A Harmless Symbol of Democratic Party Heritage—And Sales are Skyrocketing Again

Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Aug 24 12:52:55 2017, in response to A Harmless Symbol of Southern Heritage, posted by SMAZ on Sat Jun 20 17:10:29 2015.

Alabama Media Group

Nation's last Confederate flag manufacturer sees sales surge after Charlottesville

By Anna Claire Vollers
Updated on August 23, 2017 at 7:06 AM
Posted on August 23, 2017 at 7:00 AM
Rebel flag sales are up since Charlottesville. One north Alabama shop may be the only flag manufacturer in America meeting the increased demand.

Alabama Flag & Banner is located in a small strip near downtown Huntsville. Two years ago, the company began manufacturing the Confederate flag after retailers pulled it from their shelves in the wake of the mass shooting at the Emanuel A.M.E. Church in Charleston, S.C. in which nine people were killed by a white supremacist who'd been photographed holding a Confederate flag.

The country's major flag manufacturers stopped producing rebel flags. Eventually, said longtime owner Belinda Kennedy, Alabama Flag & Banner became the go-to manufacturer for hundreds of retailers across the country looking to stock American-made Confederate flags. Online orders boomed, too.

Two weeks ago, after the deadly Charlottesville rally sparked a national debate about whether Confederate monuments should be removed from parks around the country, flag sales spiked again.

"After the church shooting (in 2015), Amazon and Walmart stopped selling (the flag) and people were afraid they wouldn't be able to buy it," she said. "And then you started seeing streets renamed, schools being renamed, mountains being renamed. And then people started getting angry.

"And then there's another surge (in sales)."

Since 2015, Alabama Flag & Banner has sold an average of 600-800 Confederate flags a year. Before that, they typically made a handful of special orders per year because they were able to order flags from a larger manufacturer.

Kennedy said there are now Chinese-made flags available elsewhere, and she's seen a handful of individuals online who hand-sew flags to order, but as far as she knows her business is the only one in the country currently manufacturing Confederate flags.

About half of the Confederate flags at her shop are a more labor-intensive appliqued flag which retails for anywhere from $93 to upwards of $200. The rest are a less expensive screen-printed flag, which costs $38.50 for a 3' × 5' flag.

After Charlottesville, Kennedy received more than a hundred orders in one day. She said online orders trickle in, day and night.

"Everybody's got a different reason (for buying)," she said. "By and large, I think people are afraid they may not be able to get it one day."

Confederate flags represent only a fraction of her business, she said, and she has not needed to hire any extra help so far. She has a team of seven or eight seamstresses, some of them Hispanic, who work on the manufacturing side, hand-stitching appliqued flags and preparing the screen-printed flags.

Downstairs in Kennedy's office is a double-frame picture of two of her great-great-grandfathers, who fought for the South in the Civil War.

"I think there is a bigger racial divide in our country than what we've had in many years," said Kennedy. "I think a lot of it is (because) we're trying to sanitize history. You've got white supremacists, but then you've got people like me who are history buffs, pushing back and saying, don't change history."

Removing Confederate monuments is not right, she said. She echoed President Donald Trump's remarks about the Charlottesville violence, asking where the country should draw the line at removing monuments because founding fathers like George Washington and Thomas Jefferson owned slaves.

The Confederate flag, in her view, has been co-opted for something it doesn't represent. She hated seeing it carried by white supremacists in Charlottesville.

"When you've got people like the Ku Klux Klan and these neo-Nazi groups, the white supremacists, when they hijack the flag, that should be a crime," she said, "because that's not what the flag is about. But that's what makes people so vehemently, adamantly opposed to the flag."

Since 2015, Kennedy has been no stranger to attention, though she said she dislikes most of the publicity and news coverage surrounding the Confederate flag. Outlets such as CNN and Yahoo News have already interviewed Kennedy this week as part of coverage of the monument debate.

A self-avowed Daughter of the Confederacy, Kennedy does not see herself as a crusader for the Confederate cause. But she doesn't accept that the flag — or monuments, for that matter — are anything more than a symbol of heritage or history.

"When we start trying to rewrite our history, we are forgetting our history," she said. "Does anybody really think by taking down monuments and renaming mountains and taking down Confederate flags, that we are really going to see racism end? That's not going to fix it. That comes from inside of people."


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Re:A Harmless Symbol of Democratic Party Heritage—And Sales are Skyrocketing Again

Posted by SLRT on Thu Aug 24 14:01:13 2017, in response to A Harmless Symbol of Democratic Party Heritage—And Sales are Skyrocketing Again, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Aug 24 12:52:55 2017.




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Re:A Harmless Symbol of Democratic Party Heritage—And Sales are Skyrocketing Again

Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Aug 24 14:23:04 2017, in response to Re:A Harmless Symbol of Democratic Party Heritage—And Sales are Skyrocketing Again, posted by SLRT on Thu Aug 24 14:01:13 2017.

I haven't seen any calls from the left for his image, no matter what form it takes, to be taken down.



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Re:A Harmless Symbol of Democratic Party Heritage—And Sales are Skyrocketing Again

Posted by SLRT on Thu Aug 24 14:35:43 2017, in response to Re:A Harmless Symbol of Democratic Party Heritage—And Sales are Skyrocketing Again, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Aug 24 14:23:04 2017.

Where's the Taliban when you need them? Contracted out to the Democratic Party, I imagine.

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Re:A Harmless Symbol of Democratic Party Heritage—And Sales are Skyrocketing Again

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Aug 24 15:21:08 2017, in response to Re:A Harmless Symbol of Democratic Party Heritage—And Sales are Skyrocketing Again, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Aug 24 14:23:04 2017.

Senator Byrd was not a traitor against his country.

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Re:A Harmless Symbol of Democratic Party Heritage—And Sales are Skyrocketing Again

Posted by SLRT on Thu Aug 24 15:42:07 2017, in response to Re:A Harmless Symbol of Democratic Party Heritage—And Sales are Skyrocketing Again, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Aug 24 15:21:08 2017.

He tried to uphold the traditions of the antebellum south.

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Re:A Harmless Symbol of Democratic Party Heritage—And Sales are Skyrocketing Again

Posted by bingbong on Thu Aug 24 17:26:40 2017, in response to Re:A Harmless Symbol of Democratic Party Heritage—And Sales are Skyrocketing Again, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Aug 24 14:23:04 2017.

Could it be that he's a shining example of someone who reformed himself and then used his position in the cause of good?

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Re:A Harmless Symbol of Democratic Party Heritage—And Sales are Skyrocketing Again

Posted by bingbong on Thu Aug 24 17:33:38 2017, in response to Re:A Harmless Symbol of Democratic Party Heritage—And Sales are Skyrocketing Again, posted by SLRT on Thu Aug 24 15:42:07 2017.

He used his position and power in pursuit of good after he reformed himself in the sixties. That's turned out to run over thirty years, certainly long enough to earn forgiveness upon proven genuine aincere change.

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Re:A Harmless Symbol of Democratic Party Heritage—And Sales are Skyrocketing Again

Posted by ftgreeneg on Thu Aug 24 17:40:49 2017, in response to Re:A Harmless Symbol of Democratic Party Heritage—And Sales are Skyrocketing Again, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Aug 24 14:23:04 2017.

Fuck him. Tear it down.

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Re:A Harmless Symbol of Democratic Party Heritage—And Sales are Skyrocketing Again

Posted by ftgreeneg on Thu Aug 24 17:47:18 2017, in response to Re:A Harmless Symbol of Democratic Party Heritage—And Sales are Skyrocketing Again, posted by ftgreeneg on Thu Aug 24 17:40:49 2017.

Actually he tried to reform himself so I take back the fuck him to a less severe 'forget him'. But no I (or the vast majority on the left) wouldn't lose any sleep if his statue was taken down as much as the right whine about their confederate statues.

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Re:A Harmless Symbol of Democratic Party Heritage—And Sales are Skyrocketing Again

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Aug 24 18:10:51 2017, in response to Re:A Harmless Symbol of Democratic Party Heritage—And Sales are Skyrocketing Again, posted by bingbong on Thu Aug 24 17:26:40 2017.

LOL!

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Re: A Harmless Symbol of Democratic Party Heritage—and now Sales are Skyrocketing

Posted by Chicagomotorman on Thu Aug 24 18:17:45 2017, in response to Re: A Harmless Symbol of Democratic Party Heritage—and now Sales are Skyrocketing, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Tue Jun 23 22:12:08 2015.

Figures what?

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Re: Walmart: ''No More items with Confederate Symbols''

Posted by Chicagomotorman on Thu Aug 24 18:21:05 2017, in response to Re: Walmart: ''No More items with Confederate Symbols'', posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Tue Jun 23 07:02:05 2015.

Figures what?

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Re: Walmart: ''No More items with Confederate Symbols''

Posted by Chicagomotorman on Thu Aug 24 18:21:44 2017, in response to Re: Walmart: ''No More items with Confederate Symbols'', posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Tue Jun 23 07:01:54 2015.

Figures what?

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Re: Walmart: ''No More items with Confederate Symbols''

Posted by Joe V on Thu Aug 24 18:46:57 2017, in response to Re: Walmart: ''No More items with Confederate Symbols'', posted by Chicagomotorman on Thu Aug 24 18:21:05 2017.

Would you be opposed to them selling swasticas ?

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Re:A Harmless Symbol of Democratic Party Heritage—And Sales are Skyrocketing Again

Posted by bingbong on Thu Aug 24 18:53:25 2017, in response to Re:A Harmless Symbol of Democratic Party Heritage—And Sales are Skyrocketing Again, posted by ftgreeneg on Thu Aug 24 17:47:18 2017.

The consensus is that he succeeded at exactly that.

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Re:A Harmless Symbol of Democratic Party Heritage—And Sales are Skyrocketing Again

Posted by SLRT on Fri Aug 25 09:15:20 2017, in response to Re:A Harmless Symbol of Democratic Party Heritage—And Sales are Skyrocketing Again, posted by bingbong on Thu Aug 24 17:26:40 2017.

In his case, no.

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Re:A Harmless Symbol of Democratic Party Heritage—And Sales are Skyrocketing Again

Posted by R2ChinaTown on Fri Aug 25 09:20:50 2017, in response to Re:A Harmless Symbol of Democratic Party Heritage—And Sales are Skyrocketing Again, posted by bingbong on Thu Aug 24 17:33:38 2017.

Thank you. This proves what I said previously about you is true. You are easily theost dishonest and hypocritical person who posts on this site.

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Re:A Harmless Symbol of Democratic Party Heritage—And Sales are Skyrocketing Again

Posted by mtk52983 on Fri Aug 25 09:24:35 2017, in response to Re:A Harmless Symbol of Democratic Party Heritage—And Sales are Skyrocketing Again, posted by bingbong on Thu Aug 24 17:26:40 2017.

That is debatable as Sen. Byrd did nothing to help minorities get out of a system that was designed to keep them on government handouts. He supported excessive regulation that prevented minorities from opening their own businesses. He fought against modifying Welfare. He supported dumping more money into failing schools to appease the unions, but little actually went to improving quality of education. He fought against voucher programs that would allow those students in failing schools to go to better schools. He supported affirmative action in colleges that only increase the failure rate of minorities because they are not in a position academically to handle the rigors of college since they, due to having a failing public education, lacked the knowledge that colleges assume their students have.

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Re:A Harmless Symbol of Democratic Party Heritage—And Sales are Skyrocketing Again

Posted by mtk52983 on Fri Aug 25 09:25:44 2017, in response to Re:A Harmless Symbol of Democratic Party Heritage—And Sales are Skyrocketing Again, posted by bingbong on Thu Aug 24 17:33:38 2017.

Except he didn't. He used his power to keep more minorities in positions that they could not improve their lives or the lives of their children.

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Re:A Harmless Symbol of Democratic Party Heritage—And Sales are Skyrocketing Again

Posted by Fred G on Fri Aug 25 09:49:09 2017, in response to Re:A Harmless Symbol of Democratic Party Heritage—And Sales are Skyrocketing Again, posted by mtk52983 on Fri Aug 25 09:24:35 2017.

Those are conservative talking points which don't disprove that Byrd renounced his past. I mean c'mon, are those KKK positions you cited in your post? No.

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Re:A Harmless Symbol of Democratic Party Heritage—And Sales are Skyrocketing Again

Posted by mtk52983 on Fri Aug 25 10:04:07 2017, in response to Re:A Harmless Symbol of Democratic Party Heritage—And Sales are Skyrocketing Again, posted by Fred G on Fri Aug 25 09:49:09 2017.

Keeping minorities down was strongly supported by KKK

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Re:A Harmless Symbol of Democratic Party Heritage—And Sales are Skyrocketing Again

Posted by R2ChinaTown on Fri Aug 25 10:26:50 2017, in response to Re:A Harmless Symbol of Democratic Party Heritage—And Sales are Skyrocketing Again, posted by mtk52983 on Fri Aug 25 10:04:07 2017.

Truth. The liberals enslave minorities by addicting them to the public dole. They poorly educate them in nonfunctional schools and keep them sick on substandard diets so that they'll be dependent on poor medical care. Then they convince them that if conservatives are in power, their "drugs" will be taken away. Ever wonder why it is that when minorities become successful, they mostly become conservative? They've learned the truth

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Re:A Harmless Symbol of Democratic Party Heritage—And Sales are Skyrocketing Again

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Aug 25 11:42:23 2017, in response to Re:A Harmless Symbol of Democratic Party Heritage—And Sales are Skyrocketing Again, posted by R2ChinaTown on Fri Aug 25 10:26:50 2017.

Exactly!! It's called the Democratic Plantation! Keep them dependant on the "system" from the cradle to the grave and lie to them, telling them that the Republucans want to take away their lifestyle that the Democrats have them trapped in the first place!!

Any "minority" who thinks that the Democrats are concerned about them are sadly mistaken!

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Re:A Harmless Symbol of Democratic Party Heritage—And Sales are Skyrocketing Again

Posted by AlM on Fri Aug 25 11:44:58 2017, in response to Re:A Harmless Symbol of Democratic Party Heritage—And Sales are Skyrocketing Again, posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Aug 25 11:42:23 2017.

Any "minority" who thinks that the Democrats are concerned about them are sadly mistaken!

Right. Minorities disproportionately benefit from ACA, and that bothers you.


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Re:A Harmless Symbol of Democratic Party Heritage—And Sales are Skyrocketing Again

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Aug 25 11:57:00 2017, in response to Re:A Harmless Symbol of Democratic Party Heritage—And Sales are Skyrocketing Again, posted by AlM on Fri Aug 25 11:44:58 2017.

How did you draw that conclusion?

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Re:A Harmless Symbol of Democratic Party Heritage—And Sales are Skyrocketing Again

Posted by bingbong on Fri Aug 25 12:37:37 2017, in response to Re:A Harmless Symbol of Democratic Party Heritage—And Sales are Skyrocketing Again, posted by AlM on Fri Aug 25 11:44:58 2017.

The biggest surpise should be that the majority of "old school" welfare recipients were white.

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Re:A Harmless Symbol of Democratic Party Heritage—And Sales are Skyrocketing Again

Posted by R2Chinatown on Fri Aug 25 13:50:56 2017, in response to Re:A Harmless Symbol of Democratic Party Heritage—And Sales are Skyrocketing Again, posted by AlM on Fri Aug 25 11:44:58 2017.

Do you mean the ACA that has just become UCA for another 120,000 as Northwell says adios to Obamacare or as I like to think of it, "obamadoesn'treally care"


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Re:A Harmless Symbol of Democratic Party Heritage—And Sales are Skyrocketing Again

Posted by R2Chinatown on Fri Aug 25 14:19:49 2017, in response to Re:A Harmless Symbol of Democratic Party Heritage—And Sales are Skyrocketing Again, posted by bingbong on Fri Aug 25 12:37:37 2017.

why should that be a surprise? The majority of the population is white. Are you making racist evaluations again.

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