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Re: Nature

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Aug 22 13:33:15 2017, in response to Re: Nature, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Aug 22 12:53:36 2017.

and it's found nothing

I'm sure you really do believe that.

Denying established, settled scientific fact doesn't change reality.

What evidence can you provide for your claim that evolution "isn't real"?

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Re: Nature with Billbklyns wrong history

Posted by ClearAspect on Tue Aug 22 13:38:38 2017, in response to Re: Nature with Billbklyns wrong history, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Aug 22 12:31:46 2017.

War be a bitch yo

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Re: Nature

Posted by Fred G on Tue Aug 22 13:49:47 2017, in response to Nature, posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Aug 22 07:59:49 2017.

That was then and this is now. Looking back into history we can rationalize why people did what they did at the time.
There's no reason why we need to glorify them in the current time space and it's perfectly logical to right a wrong where a wrong has been done.
It is also part of nature to adapt and evolve. Once you realize the fact that a guy is a douche bag then it seems really silly to keep a statue of him standing.

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Re: Nature with Billbklyns wrong history

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Aug 22 13:51:49 2017, in response to Re: Nature with Billbklyns wrong history, posted by ClearAspect on Tue Aug 22 13:38:38 2017.

Not just war.

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Re: Nature

Posted by ftgreeneg on Tue Aug 22 13:58:32 2017, in response to Nature, posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Aug 22 07:59:49 2017.

"Europeans had the superior knowledge and the superior weaponry and the superior structure to do so."

The Europeans had guns and resistance to diseases other culture were never exposed to.

You are right about one thing America was formed by Europeans for Europeans. So ppl's perspective of who and what's 'great is different. For example as you stated 'the statue issue'.

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Re: Nature

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Aug 22 14:17:14 2017, in response to Re: Nature, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Aug 22 12:50:53 2017.

I agree, but I am blending everyone together and saying a general statement

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Re: Nature

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Aug 22 14:18:12 2017, in response to Re: Nature, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Aug 22 12:56:57 2017.

Yes. Because Nature has males needlessly exposing themselves to Danger when it comes to fighting for a mate, Etc

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Re: Nature

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Aug 22 14:19:04 2017, in response to Re: Nature, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Aug 22 12:55:41 2017.

How is agreeing with evolution mean that I'm pretending about science?

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Re: Nature

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Aug 22 14:20:05 2017, in response to Re: Nature, posted by bingbong on Tue Aug 22 12:38:26 2017.

2 years does not a civilization make.

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Re: Nature

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Aug 22 14:21:32 2017, in response to Re: Nature, posted by ftgreeneg on Tue Aug 22 13:58:32 2017.

And is it wrong for me to say that? I don't know why people get angry when that point is brought up.

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Re: Nature with Billbklyns wrong history

Posted by bingbong on Tue Aug 22 14:22:38 2017, in response to Re: Nature with Billbklyns wrong history, posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Aug 22 11:11:57 2017.

Oh? What then, do you think a medieval serf was? They couldn't up and move to find a better job, obtain training to get another job, or even own a home or land. They were property.

The serfs did the agricultural work, and were not allowed to profit from it. If you weren't a serf, you were born into whatever your trade was, thus containing economc mobility to within an extended family.

There's different schemes of slavery.

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Re: Nature

Posted by bingbong on Tue Aug 22 14:26:20 2017, in response to Re: Nature, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Tue Aug 22 12:25:17 2017.

Is there another?

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Re: Nature with Billbklyns wrong history

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Aug 22 14:26:45 2017, in response to Re: Nature with Billbklyns wrong history, posted by bingbong on Tue Aug 22 14:22:38 2017.

I agree! I never said anything about that. I'm talking about the culture as a whole. You need people on the top, you need people on the bottom. That's just the way it goes.

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Re: Nature with Billbklyns wrong history

Posted by bingbong on Tue Aug 22 14:36:09 2017, in response to Re: Nature with Billbklyns wrong history, posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Aug 22 14:26:45 2017.

You said that slavery had little if anything to do with "western" civilization. Fact is, it was the base of medieval culture. Which is the base of modern "western" culture.

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Re: Nature

Posted by bingbong on Tue Aug 22 14:38:49 2017, in response to Re: Nature, posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Aug 22 14:20:05 2017.

The mention of th year was a point of reference. The statemnt of denying healthcare access to women and children is the POINT. This is not how a civilized society in this day and age should conduct itself.

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Re: Nature

Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Aug 22 14:40:40 2017, in response to Re: Nature, posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Aug 22 14:19:04 2017.

You answered your own question.

Evolution requires abiogenesis to even explain life's existence, and that never happens. Mutations never result in new species; they are either corrected in subsequent generations, or the mutated individual cannot reproduce.

I can tell you've never looked into this. Just accepted it as dogma, as if it were a religion.

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Re: Nature with Billbklyns wrong history

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Aug 22 14:41:39 2017, in response to Re: Nature with Billbklyns wrong history, posted by bingbong on Tue Aug 22 14:36:09 2017.

I was talking about the transatlantic slave trade.

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Re: Nature

Posted by bingbong on Tue Aug 22 14:42:09 2017, in response to Re: Nature, posted by Fred G on Tue Aug 22 13:49:47 2017.

Conservatives don't evolve. They devolve. Their entire mindset is based on the fallacy that life was somehow better then, sans technologies.

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Re: Nature

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Aug 22 14:42:27 2017, in response to Re: Nature, posted by bingbong on Tue Aug 22 14:38:49 2017.

Well, it's time for people to work for the health care if they want it.

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Re: Nature

Posted by bingbong on Tue Aug 22 14:47:33 2017, in response to Re: Nature, posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Aug 22 14:42:27 2017.

It's not a luxury. And American women still, in this day and age, do not universally have complete control over their bodies. Besides that, the fact that healthcare is required in order to attain such remains.

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Re: Nature

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Aug 22 14:48:53 2017, in response to Re: Nature, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Aug 22 14:40:40 2017.

You're obviously full of shit. Permanent mutations have been observed in nature and in the lab.

And your beloved creation fantasy requires abiogensis. How else do you explain the existence of plants on day 3 when previously there were no plants?

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Re: Nature

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Aug 22 14:57:43 2017, in response to Re: Nature, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Aug 22 14:40:40 2017.

What do the people of subchat think I really do? I'm educated, I like science, evolution is fascinating because it's ongoing. I guess you believe that God created Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden and each animal the way they are now.

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Re: Nature

Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Aug 22 14:58:05 2017, in response to Re: Nature, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Aug 22 13:33:15 2017.

if you believe that humans evolved from other primates, should you believe that certain humans are maybe one or two standard deviations closer to our ancestors?

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Re: Nature

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Aug 22 15:00:10 2017, in response to Re: Nature, posted by bingbong on Tue Aug 22 14:47:33 2017.

Why can't you have control over your body? I have control over mine. Healthcare is a luxury, not a right.

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Re: Nature

Posted by ftgreeneg on Tue Aug 22 15:02:15 2017, in response to Re: Nature, posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Aug 22 14:21:32 2017.

To say what? I disagreed that the Europeans were more advanced. They had guns while others didn't. So I guess if you want to say more advanced weaponry go ahead.

So is it ok for others for example blacks who are descendents of slaves to see Confederate Generals who to fought to preserve slavery to see them as anything but a hero?

Or

Native Americans to not see Christopher Columbus the catalyst for their genocide to not see the man as a hero?


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Re: Nature

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Aug 22 15:03:01 2017, in response to Re: Nature, posted by bingbong on Tue Aug 22 14:42:09 2017.

Christopher Columbus is conservative?

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Re: Nature

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Aug 22 15:06:18 2017, in response to Re: Nature, posted by ftgreeneg on Tue Aug 22 15:02:15 2017.

I meant is it wrong for me to tell the truth, that this country was made by European colonists for European colonists?
I believe what Charles Barkley said, I never heard anything out of it up until a few years ago. Once the meddling liberal whites got involved. As for the Indians, the civilization just couldn't stand up to ours..

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Re: Nature with Billbklyns wrong history

Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Aug 22 15:07:05 2017, in response to Re: Nature with Billbklyns wrong history, posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Aug 22 11:42:09 2017.

there are reasons for advancement in the white civilizations, especially in the north, like Germany, Sweden, and United Kingdom.

These areas have the highest IQ's.

Protestantism helped. It was an intellectual movement far more than a religious one.

Carbohydrates also played a big role. Potatoes, in addition to meat, coincides with increased IQ's in the white man.

Grains also helped, but when we started consuming too many of them, some health issues arose.

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Re: Nature with Billbklyns wrong history

Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Aug 22 15:07:05 2017, in response to Re: Nature with Billbklyns wrong history, posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Aug 22 11:42:09 2017.

there are reasons for advancement in the white civilizations, especially in the north, like Germany, Sweden, and United Kingdom.

These areas have the highest IQ's.

Protestantism helped. It was an intellectual movement far more than a religious one.

Carbohydrates also played a big role. Potatoes, in addition to meat, coincides with increased IQ's in the white man.

Grains also helped, but when we started consuming too many of them, some health issues arose.

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Re: Nature

Posted by ftgreeneg on Tue Aug 22 15:16:41 2017, in response to Re: Nature, posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Aug 22 15:06:18 2017.

So why ppl get mad when others sit during the anthem? As you just said America ain't us right? And you're right instituational racism lrves your point.

And wrong there was calls for confederate flags and monuments to come down for years. It gained steam and notoriety as Dylan Roof however and as you 'liberal whites' get involved. That's bc when black, latinos etc say it it amounts to pissing in the wind.

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Re: Nature

Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Aug 22 15:19:25 2017, in response to Re: Nature, posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Aug 22 15:06:18 2017.

correct.

Indians were not sitting around smoking the peace pipe. They were some of the most savage animal warriors who committed nothing short of war crimes against each other in combat, before the white man arrived.

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Re: Nature

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Aug 22 15:22:04 2017, in response to Re: Nature, posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Aug 22 15:00:10 2017.

I hope you remember that healthcare is a "luxury", if you ever need a bypass or a hip replacement.

Healthcare has been defined as a basic human right, by the United Nations.

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Re: Nature

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Aug 22 15:22:04 2017, in response to Re: Nature, posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Aug 22 15:00:10 2017.

I hope you remember that healthcare is a "luxury", if you ever need a bypass or a hip replacement.

Healthcare has been defined as a basic human right, by the United Nations.

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Re: Nature

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Aug 22 15:22:04 2017, in response to Re: Nature, posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Aug 22 15:00:10 2017.

I hope you remember that healthcare is a "luxury", if you ever need a bypass or a hip replacement.

Healthcare has been defined as a basic human right, by the United Nations.

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Re: Nature

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Aug 22 15:22:04 2017, in response to Re: Nature, posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Aug 22 15:00:10 2017.

I hope you remember that healthcare is a "luxury", if you ever need a bypass or a hip replacement.

Healthcare has been defined as a basic human right, by the United Nations.

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Re: Nature

Posted by bingbong on Tue Aug 22 15:48:34 2017, in response to Re: Nature, posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Aug 22 15:00:10 2017.

First of all, that is an incredibly callous statement. No surprise out of you.

Rape victims DO become pregnant. That's not something that can be controlled.

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Re: Nature

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Aug 22 15:51:00 2017, in response to Re: Nature, posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Aug 22 15:03:01 2017.

Columbus was anti-science. He disagreed with the scientific consensus regarding the circumference of the Earth. He was wrong, the consensus was right.

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Re: Nature

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Aug 22 15:55:14 2017, in response to Re: Nature, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Aug 22 15:22:04 2017.

I'll walk around on wooden legs, like a pirate! AAAARRRRRGGGHHH!!

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Re: Nature

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Aug 22 15:57:23 2017, in response to Re: Nature, posted by ftgreeneg on Tue Aug 22 15:16:41 2017.

I SAID America was made for the colonists, which ARE NOT me and you.

Those whiny libs never shut up!

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Re: Nature with Billbklyns wrong history

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Aug 22 16:00:20 2017, in response to Re: Nature with Billbklyns wrong history, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Aug 22 15:07:05 2017.

Grains are much worse than other foods.

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Re: Nature with Billbklyns wrong history

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Aug 22 16:03:10 2017, in response to Re: Nature with Billbklyns wrong history, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Aug 22 15:07:05 2017.

Potatoes are a New World food. I'm surprised the Indians weren't smarter than they were.

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Re: Nature

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Aug 22 16:09:03 2017, in response to Re: Nature, posted by bingbong on Tue Aug 22 15:48:34 2017.

Let 'em eat cake!!

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Re: Nature

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Aug 22 16:10:00 2017, in response to Re: Nature, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Aug 22 15:51:00 2017.

I know, hence the route to the indies.

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Re: Nature

Posted by R2ChinaTown on Tue Aug 22 17:09:06 2017, in response to Re: Nature, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Aug 22 15:22:04 2017.

It's certainly NOT Enumerated in the BILL OF RIGHTS.

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Re: Nature with Billbklyns wrong history

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Aug 22 17:12:26 2017, in response to Re: Nature with Billbklyns wrong history, posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Aug 22 16:03:10 2017.

Potatoes aren't a "brain food."

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Re: Nature

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Aug 22 17:26:48 2017, in response to Re: Nature, posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Aug 22 16:10:00 2017.

I've always wondered what would have happened if no one had believed Columbus. How would the Americas have been discovered?

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Re: Nature

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Aug 22 17:28:41 2017, in response to Re: Nature, posted by R2ChinaTown on Tue Aug 22 17:09:06 2017.

So now you're opposed to the idea of negative liberties? How un-American of you.

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Re: Nature

Posted by ClearAspect on Tue Aug 22 17:38:59 2017, in response to Re: Nature, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Aug 22 17:26:48 2017.

You mean European discovery? Vikings? Or Nordics? IIRC there was evidence of Vikings discovering Canada 400 years prior to Columbus.

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Re: Nature with Billbklyns wrong history

Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Aug 22 17:42:21 2017, in response to Re: Nature with Billbklyns wrong history, posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Aug 22 16:03:10 2017.

Indians ate a lot of meat.



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Re: Nature

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Aug 22 17:43:09 2017, in response to Re: Nature, posted by ClearAspect on Tue Aug 22 17:38:59 2017.

And it didn't take, so the Viking discovery is just a footnote.

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