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Re: Fw: CA Driver's License = Selective Service Registration?8207; |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Fri Mar 27 18:39:26 2015, in response to Re: Fw: CA Driver's License = Selective Service Registration?8207;, posted by Dave on Fri Mar 27 18:27:51 2015. ZZZZZZZZZZZ |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Fri Mar 27 18:42:00 2015, in response to Re: Fw: CA Driver's License = Selective Service Registration?8207;, posted by Dave on Fri Mar 27 18:27:08 2015. not any more |
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Posted by Nilet on Fri Mar 27 18:43:10 2015, in response to Re: Fw: CA Driver's License = Selective Service Registration?8207;, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Fri Mar 27 18:39:13 2015. I wonder if he thinks Mormons are Christian.Hell, some Protestants think Catholics aren't Christian (and vice versa). |
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Posted by SMAZ on Fri Mar 27 19:23:20 2015, in response to Re: Fw: CA Driver's License = Selective Service Registration?8207;, posted by AlM on Fri Mar 27 08:40:32 2015. There is no doubt that Salaam's chances of being alive today today would have been diminished had he gone to Vietnam in 1970.It's no different than saying that one's chance of being alive in 2017 will be diminished if they go to Liberia or Sierra Leone in the next few months. |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Fri Mar 27 19:25:20 2015, in response to Re: Fw: CA Driver's License = Selective Service Registration?8207;, posted by SMAZ on Fri Mar 27 19:23:20 2015. i know some one who is in the hospital today because of AGENT ORANGE |
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Posted by AlM on Fri Mar 27 19:58:29 2015, in response to Re: Fw: CA Driver's License = Selective Service Registration?8207;, posted by SMAZ on Fri Mar 27 19:23:20 2015. Your sentence is logically correct, because it is properly qualified. Nilet's sentence is flat out wrong.However, even your sentence overemphasizes a fairly small effect. 60,000 out of 9 million soldiers died in Vietnam. Less than 1%. More if you consider after-effects, but still not huge. |
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Posted by Nilet on Fri Mar 27 20:19:42 2015, in response to Re: Fw: CA Driver's License = Selective Service Registration?8207;, posted by AlM on Fri Mar 27 19:58:29 2015. Your sentence is logically correct, because it is properly qualified. Nilet's sentence is flat out wrong.I think you're confusing "logically" with "literally." We both made the exact same statement— Dave claimed Salaam is "too dumb to live," and I disproved this claim by pointing out that Salaam is smart enough to avoid a dangerous situation that killed 60,000 people. You then made another major logical error by committing a straw man fallacy— rather than address the point I actually made, you manufactured an absurd idea only superficially related to my point and debunked that, hoping no one would notice that you only "disproved" a claim no one actually made. |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Fri Mar 27 20:20:16 2015, in response to Re: Fw: CA Driver's License = Selective Service Registration?8207;, posted by Nilet on Fri Mar 27 20:19:42 2015. IAWTPthank you |
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Posted by AlM on Fri Mar 27 20:26:38 2015, in response to Re: Fw: CA Driver's License = Selective Service Registration?8207;, posted by Nilet on Fri Mar 27 20:19:42 2015. you manufactured an absurd idea only superficially related to my point and debunked thatUm, no. I debunked the statement you actually made. I can't help it if you deliberately made an absurd statement for the sake of proving a point. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Fri Mar 27 20:58:10 2015, in response to Re: Fw: CA Driver's License = Selective Service Registration?8207;, posted by AlM on Fri Mar 27 19:58:29 2015. However, even your sentence overemphasizes a fairly small effect. 60,000 out of 9 million soldiers died in Vietnam. Less than 1%. More if you consider after-effects, but still not huge.60,000 Americans died before their time (mostly in their early-mid 20's) because they went to Vietnam (by definition, they did not dodge the draft). A much smaller number of draft-dodgers died prematurely (accidents, murder, etc) during the time that they would have otherwise been in Vietnam. In other words, dodging the draft increased one's chance of being alive today. |
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Posted by Dave on Fri Mar 27 21:08:50 2015, in response to Re: Fw: CA Driver's License = Selective Service Registration?8207;, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Fri Mar 27 18:42:00 2015. Then what city is? |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Fri Mar 27 21:14:53 2015, in response to Re: Fw: CA Driver's License = Selective Service Registration?8207;, posted by Dave on Fri Mar 27 21:08:50 2015. we will have to make one soonsaudia arabia is not |
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Posted by Dave on Fri Mar 27 21:24:53 2015, in response to Re: Fw: CA Driver's License = Selective Service Registration?8207;, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Fri Mar 27 21:14:53 2015. Who determined Mecca is no longer the holiest city? |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Fri Mar 27 21:25:34 2015, in response to Re: Fw: CA Driver's License = Selective Service Registration?8207;, posted by Dave on Fri Mar 27 21:24:53 2015. what is holy about it ?explain........... mecca is nasty as hell |
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Posted by Dave on Fri Mar 27 21:30:53 2015, in response to Re: Fw: CA Driver's License = Selective Service Registration?8207;, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Fri Mar 27 21:25:34 2015. Well, it's the birthplace of both the Prophet Muhammad and the religion he founded. It's also the site of Muhammad's first revelation of the Koran. A pilgrimage to Mecca known as the Hajj is obligatory for all able Muslims. Mecca also is home to the Kaaba, by majority description Islam's holiest site, as well as being the direction of Muslim prayer.So explain why you think Mecca isn't Islam's holiest city? |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Fri Mar 27 21:39:26 2015, in response to Re: Fw: CA Driver's License = Selective Service Registration?8207;, posted by Dave on Fri Mar 27 21:30:53 2015. yes i know thatbut what is is now i would never want to go to ever i have tapes i recorded myself of people who have gone there and told me thier horrors not a nice place at all to visit |
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Posted by Dave on Fri Mar 27 21:49:40 2015, in response to Re: Fw: CA Driver's License = Selective Service Registration?8207;, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Fri Mar 27 21:39:26 2015. So just because you don't want to go there, how does that not make it Islam's holiest city? I thought all able-bodied Muslims are supposed to make the Hajj...if you refuse to go does that affect your status as a Muslim? |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Fri Mar 27 21:51:44 2015, in response to Re: Fw: CA Driver's License = Selective Service Registration?8207;, posted by Dave on Fri Mar 27 21:49:40 2015. its not safe to go therethis is not about what i like and dont like you got that wrong |
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Posted by AlM on Fri Mar 27 22:10:16 2015, in response to Re: Fw: CA Driver's License = Selective Service Registration?8207;, posted by SMAZ on Fri Mar 27 20:58:10 2015. dodging the draft increased one's chance of being alive today.Of course. Just not by much. Maybe by 1% or 2%. |
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Posted by Nilet on Fri Mar 27 22:11:09 2015, in response to Re: Fw: CA Driver's License = Selective Service Registration?8207;, posted by AlM on Fri Mar 27 20:26:38 2015. Um, no. I debunked the statement you actually made.No, you didn't. In fact, you explicitly confirmed the validity of my statement here. What you "debunked" was an absurd claim no one made, which you created by taking the literal meaning of my sentence rather than the actual meaning. I can't help it if you're not capable of understanding the nuances of the English language. |
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Posted by AlM on Fri Mar 27 22:13:03 2015, in response to Re: Fw: CA Driver's License = Selective Service Registration?8207;, posted by Nilet on Fri Mar 27 22:11:09 2015. What you "debunked" was an absurd claim no one made, which you created by taking the literal meaning of my sentence rather than the actual meaning.Duh! |
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Posted by Nilet on Fri Mar 27 22:21:46 2015, in response to Re: Fw: CA Driver's License = Selective Service Registration?8207;, posted by AlM on Fri Mar 27 22:10:16 2015. A lot more than that... |
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Posted by Nilet on Fri Mar 27 22:25:11 2015, in response to Re: Fw: CA Driver's License = Selective Service Registration?8207;, posted by Dave on Fri Mar 27 21:49:40 2015. if you refuse to go does that affect your status as a Muslim?Not any more than my posting now affects my status as a Jew. Or not accepting the authority of the Pope affects your status as a Christian* for that matter. As long as he believes in the basic tenets re: God and Mohammed, he's a Muslim. *"Your" in this case refers to the nearest non-Catholic Christian. |
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Posted by Nilet on Fri Mar 27 22:27:06 2015, in response to Re: Fw: CA Driver's License = Selective Service Registration?8207;, posted by AlM on Fri Mar 27 22:13:03 2015. Exactly. You misinterpreted my statement, and then debunked your misinterpretation rather than my statement and hoped no one would notice the distinction.That's called the straw man fallacy. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Mar 27 22:27:08 2015, in response to Re: Fw: CA Driver's License = Selective Service Registration?8207;, posted by Nilet on Fri Mar 27 22:25:11 2015. Actually, NOI does not believe those basic tenets. |
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Posted by Dave on Fri Mar 27 22:27:53 2015, in response to Re: Fw: CA Driver's License = Selective Service Registration?8207;, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Mar 27 22:27:08 2015. Please stop confusing Nilet with the facts. |
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Posted by Nilet on Fri Mar 27 22:28:16 2015, in response to Re: Fw: CA Driver's License = Selective Service Registration?8207;, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Mar 27 22:27:08 2015. Salaam is not NOI. |
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Posted by Nilet on Fri Mar 27 22:29:04 2015, in response to Re: Fw: CA Driver's License = Selective Service Registration?8207;, posted by Dave on Fri Mar 27 22:27:53 2015. 1A |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Mar 27 22:31:39 2015, in response to Re: Fw: CA Driver's License = Selective Service Registration?8207;, posted by Nilet on Fri Mar 27 22:28:16 2015. See my prior post. |
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Posted by Dave on Fri Mar 27 22:33:09 2015, in response to Re: Fw: CA Driver's License = Selective Service Registration?8207;, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Fri Mar 27 21:51:44 2015. I think I understand now. You believe Mecca is not safe so therefore it's no longer Islam's holiest city.Hate to break it to you but Professor Seyyed Hossein Nasr, currently University Professor of Islamic Studies at George Washington University (and one of the most important and foremost scholars of Islamic, Religious and Comparative Studies in the world) has published a book titled, "Mecca, The Blessed, Medina, The Radiant: The Holiest Cities of Islam." That's one of over fifty books and five hundred articles he's written. No offense but I think his opinion as to which is the holiest Islamic city carries more weight than your opinion. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Fri Mar 27 22:53:05 2015, in response to Re: Fw: CA Driver's License = Selective Service Registration?8207;, posted by Nilet on Fri Mar 27 22:25:11 2015. Good post. |
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Posted by Nilet on Fri Mar 27 23:38:45 2015, in response to Re: Fw: CA Driver's License = Selective Service Registration?8207;, posted by Dave on Fri Mar 27 22:33:09 2015. No offense but I think his opinion as to which is the holiest Islamic city carries more weight than your opinion.Some guy's opinion carries more weight regarding what Salaam believes than what Salaam believes? I'm pretty sure Salaam knows his own beliefs. If he doesn't consider Mecca holy, then he doesn't consider Mecca holy— it doesn't mean he's not Muslim. I know Catholics who think the Pope is a deluded old windbag— that doesn't mean they're not Catholic. |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sat Mar 28 03:15:11 2015, in response to Re: Fw: CA Driver's License = Selective Service Registration?8207;, posted by Nilet on Fri Mar 27 23:38:45 2015. IAWTPsaudi arabia is corrupt |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sat Mar 28 03:16:39 2015, in response to Re: Fw: CA Driver's License = Selective Service Registration?8207;, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Mar 27 22:27:08 2015. how do you know ?lol |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sat Mar 28 03:23:59 2015, in response to Re: Fw: CA Driver's License = Selective Service Registration?8207;, posted by Dave on Fri Mar 27 22:33:09 2015. mecca and medina is corrupt as hell and i have been told well by several people who have been there just how bad it really isthis is not my opinion this is severl eyewitness |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sat Mar 28 03:27:53 2015, in response to Re: Fw: CA Driver's License = Selective Service Registration?8207;, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Mar 27 22:27:08 2015. not true |
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Posted by AlM on Sat Mar 28 07:35:51 2015, in response to Re: Fw: CA Driver's License = Selective Service Registration?8207;, posted by Nilet on Fri Mar 27 22:27:06 2015. Fine, if you wish to proclaim that nothing you write should be taken to mean what it actually says, that's your privilege. |
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Posted by Nilet on Sat Mar 28 08:09:11 2015, in response to Re: Fw: CA Driver's License = Selective Service Registration?8207;, posted by AlM on Sat Mar 28 07:35:51 2015. What I meant was clear from the beginning. If you can't understand non-literal language, that's your problem. |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sat Mar 28 08:31:35 2015, in response to Re: Fw: CA Driver's License = Selective Service Registration?8207;, posted by AlM on Sat Mar 28 07:35:51 2015. Why do you botherr? I learned the first week he started on OTchat to never attempt to have reasonable conversation with him. |
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Posted by Nilet on Sat Mar 28 08:50:29 2015, in response to Re: Fw: CA Driver's License = Selective Service Registration?8207;, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sat Mar 28 08:31:35 2015. I learned the first week he started on OTchat to never attempt to have reasonable conversation with him.Don't worry— someday, you'll learn how to be reasonable and then we can have reasonable conversations. In the meantime, I'll just keep enjoying the fact that you're terrified of me. |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Mon Mar 30 07:26:09 2015, in response to Re: Fw: CA Driver's License = Selective Service Registration?8207;, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Fri Mar 27 17:29:57 2015. Bump. |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Mon Mar 30 07:28:50 2015, in response to Re: Fw: CA Driver's License = Selective Service Registration?8207;, posted by Dave on Fri Mar 27 22:27:53 2015. ;) |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Mon Mar 30 08:50:30 2015, in response to Re: Fw: CA Driver's License = Selective Service Registration?8207;, posted by AlM on Sat Mar 28 07:35:51 2015. +567 |
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