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Posted by SLRT on Fri Dec 12 22:06:01 2014, in response to Re: Democrats quickly losing their chances for 2016 and 2018, posted by AlM on Fri Dec 12 21:53:44 2014. Well can you tell us some liberal things Obama should have done, but didn't. |
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Posted by AlM on Fri Dec 12 22:16:03 2014, in response to Re: Democrats quickly losing their chances for 2016 and 2018, posted by SLRT on Fri Dec 12 22:06:01 2014. He probably should have made the stimulus more spending and less tax cuts. But he didn't.Obama has talked like a liberal but he's never acted like one. At this point he's even pissed off Nancy Pelosi and Elizabeth Warren publicly for that pose. You prove that by not being able to point out a single truly liberal thing he's ever done. |
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Posted by Elkeeper on Fri Dec 12 22:21:38 2014, in response to Re: Democrats quickly losing their chances for 2016 and 2018, posted by AlM on Fri Dec 12 19:52:25 2014. It depends on whether or not Hillary runs. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Dec 12 22:39:48 2014, in response to Re: Democrats quickly losing their chances for 2016 and 2018, posted by Fred G on Fri Dec 12 20:20:58 2014. You may be on to something here . . . but which party is Geno's and which is Pat's? |
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Posted by Fred G on Fri Dec 12 22:56:10 2014, in response to Re: Democrats quickly losing their chances for 2016 and 2018, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Dec 12 22:39:48 2014. Interchangeable but get this:They're both mediocre steaks, and people go there thinking that's the only choice they have. your pal, Fred |
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Posted by italianstallion on Fri Dec 12 23:38:44 2014, in response to Re: Democrats quickly losing their chances for 2016 and 2018, posted by SLRT on Fri Dec 12 20:11:51 2014. You say the GOP reformed after 64, wen they had just lost 2 Prez elections in a row.But as of now, the Dems have WON 2 in a row. No comparison. |
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Posted by italianstallion on Fri Dec 12 23:41:42 2014, in response to Re: Democrats quickly losing their chances for 2016 and 2018, posted by SLRT on Fri Dec 12 20:28:05 2014. It's a well-known historical pattern that fewer Dems vote in midterms. Also, incumbent Presidents' parties normally lose in midterms. None of this has any bearing on 2016. |
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Posted by WillD on Sat Dec 13 08:33:52 2014, in response to Re: Democrats quickly losing their chances for 2016 and 2018, posted by SLRT on Fri Dec 12 20:08:34 2014. More voters voted Democratic in 2014 than voted Republican. Don't confuse gerrymandering and for supremacy by the Undemocratic party, |
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Posted by WillD on Sat Dec 13 08:36:50 2014, in response to Re: Democrats quickly losing their chances for 2016 and 2018, posted by Fred G on Fri Dec 12 20:47:00 2014. BS for "didn't campaign" and for failing to acknowledge the extent of the Undemocratic Party's gerrymandering. More votes were cast for democratic candidates in 2014 than were cast for Undemocratic Party candidates. |
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Posted by WillD on Sat Dec 13 08:40:45 2014, in response to Re: Democrats quickly losing their chances for 2016 and 2018, posted by SLRT on Fri Dec 12 22:06:01 2014. Nationalize the utilities and eliminate toll roads private and public.Institute nationwide single payer healthcare. Slash defense spending and greatly increase education spending. Pass real pollution reduction reforms rather than letting corporations pay to pollute. He's done none of these, so he can't be a liberal, right? |
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Posted by WillD on Sat Dec 13 08:42:14 2014, in response to Re: Democrats quickly losing their chances for 2016 and 2018, posted by Fred G on Fri Dec 12 20:55:59 2014. Also, a nearly complete recovery from the economic disaster the Undemocrats left as they were chased out in 2006. |
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Posted by WillD on Sat Dec 13 08:45:03 2014, in response to Re: Democrats quickly losing their chances for 2016 and 2018, posted by Fred G on Fri Dec 12 20:20:58 2014. It's a 55-45 county, the 45% side have just decided their votes should count around 10% more than the 55% side. |
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Posted by WillD on Sat Dec 13 08:51:48 2014, in response to Re: Democrats quickly losing their chances for 2016 and 2018, posted by Fred G on Fri Dec 12 19:24:36 2014. But they didn't stay home. They voted in bigger numbers than the Undemocrats. It's just that the Undemocrats have rigged it so that their votes count an extra 10%. Failing to acknowledge the role of gerrymandering merely lets the Undemocrats set the tone going forward.The story needs to be how well the nation has recovered despite the best efforts of the Repulican/Undemocrats. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sat Dec 13 09:09:35 2014, in response to Re: Democrats quickly losing their chances for 2016 and 2018, posted by WillD on Sat Dec 13 08:33:52 2014. Please explain to us how you jerrymander to win a senate seat. Were state borders somehow secretly moved? Rhetoric not withstanding, you guys just lost. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sat Dec 13 09:14:48 2014, in response to Re: Democrats quickly losing their chances for 2016 and 2018, posted by WillD on Sat Dec 13 08:42:14 2014. Oh yes, recovery for wall st. But not cor main st. The average middle class family has lost $3000 in income under zerobama and the zerocrats. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sat Dec 13 09:16:32 2014, in response to Re: Democrats quickly losing their chances for 2016 and 2018, posted by WillD on Sat Dec 13 08:45:03 2014. Broken record alert. Seems we have been hearing that song a lot today. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sat Dec 13 09:25:30 2014, in response to Re: Democrats quickly losing their chances for 2016 and 2018, posted by WillD on Sat Dec 13 08:51:48 2014. Wah, wah, wah, wah... Cry me a river, will you?1) They voted 55/45 for democrats. 2) Only 37% voted. 3) The seats were gerrymandered So you really didn't lose after all. Now, does that make you feel Better? |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Dec 13 09:28:27 2014, in response to Re: Democrats quickly losing their chances for 2016 and 2018, posted by Train Dude on Sat Dec 13 09:25:30 2014. This is the guy who said "Democracy worked this time" only when Obama got elected in 2008, remember. |
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Posted by AlM on Sat Dec 13 09:53:22 2014, in response to Re: Democrats quickly losing their chances for 2016 and 2018, posted by Train Dude on Sat Dec 13 09:09:35 2014. The Senate was "gerrymandered" by our founding fathers. There are more red states than blue states. Low population states vote more Republican. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Sat Dec 13 10:42:13 2014, in response to Re: Democrats quickly losing their chances for 2016 and 2018, posted by Fred G on Fri Dec 12 19:50:14 2014. The KKK was even more liberal. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Dec 13 11:51:41 2014, in response to Re: Democrats quickly losing their chances for 2016 and 2018, posted by AlM on Sat Dec 13 09:53:22 2014. And by coïncidence, the 2014 election was a repeat of the 2008 Democratic landslide; the Democrats were playing defense in a number of red states. Meanwhile 2016 will be a repeat of the 2010 Republican landslide. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Dec 13 11:54:05 2014, in response to Re: Democrats quickly losing their chances for 2016 and 2018, posted by WillD on Sat Dec 13 08:36:50 2014. Some of this gerrymandering is "natural," as I've posted at some point. It is a byproduct of the stupid system of single-member constituencies with first past the post elections. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Dec 13 11:59:18 2014, in response to Re: Democrats quickly losing their chances for 2016 and 2018, posted by Olog-hai on Sat Dec 13 09:28:27 2014. That's because his predecessor was not democratically elected. |
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Posted by AlM on Sat Dec 13 13:04:39 2014, in response to Re: Democrats quickly losing their chances for 2016 and 2018, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Dec 13 11:51:41 2014. Agreed. But 538 had an analysis that indicated that the uneven distribution of voters in states also is a penalty the Democrats faced in 2014, in addition to all the landslide winners having to defend their seats. |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sat Dec 13 16:01:36 2014, in response to Re: Democrats quickly losing their chances for 2016 and 2018, posted by AlM on Sat Dec 13 13:04:39 2014. Its amazing the lengths the leftist diehards go to to rationalize |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sat Dec 13 16:01:37 2014, in response to Re: Democrats quickly losing their chances for 2016 and 2018, posted by AlM on Sat Dec 13 13:04:39 2014. Its amazing the lengths the leftist diehards go to to rationalize |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sat Dec 13 16:01:37 2014, in response to Re: Democrats quickly losing their chances for 2016 and 2018, posted by AlM on Sat Dec 13 13:04:39 2014. Its amazing the lengths the leftist diehards go to to rationalize |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sat Dec 13 16:01:37 2014, in response to Re: Democrats quickly losing their chances for 2016 and 2018, posted by AlM on Sat Dec 13 13:04:39 2014. Its amazing the lengths the leftist diehards go to to rationalize |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sat Dec 13 16:01:37 2014, in response to Re: Democrats quickly losing their chances for 2016 and 2018, posted by AlM on Sat Dec 13 13:04:39 2014. Its amazing the lengths the leftist diehards go to to rationalize |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sat Dec 13 16:01:37 2014, in response to Re: Democrats quickly losing their chances for 2016 and 2018, posted by AlM on Sat Dec 13 13:04:39 2014. Its amazing the lengths the leftist diehards go to to rationalize |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Dec 13 16:05:47 2014, in response to Re: Democrats quickly losing their chances for 2016 and 2018, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sat Dec 13 16:01:36 2014. Rationalize what? Facts are facts. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Dec 13 16:05:57 2014, in response to Re: Democrats quickly losing their chances for 2016 and 2018, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sat Dec 13 16:01:37 2014. Rationalize what? Facts are facts. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Dec 13 16:06:04 2014, in response to Re: Democrats quickly losing their chances for 2016 and 2018, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sat Dec 13 16:01:37 2014. Rationalize what? Facts are facts. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Dec 13 16:06:11 2014, in response to Re: Democrats quickly losing their chances for 2016 and 2018, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sat Dec 13 16:01:37 2014. Rationalize what? Facts are facts. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Dec 13 16:06:17 2014, in response to Re: Democrats quickly losing their chances for 2016 and 2018, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sat Dec 13 16:01:37 2014. Rationalize what? Facts are facts. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Dec 13 16:06:24 2014, in response to Re: Democrats quickly losing their chances for 2016 and 2018, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sat Dec 13 16:01:37 2014. Rationalize what? Facts are facts. |
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Posted by Fred G on Sat Dec 13 16:34:01 2014, in response to Re: Democrats quickly losing their chances for 2016 and 2018, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Dec 13 16:06:24 2014. Very thorough.Your pal, Fred |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sat Dec 13 16:36:04 2014, in response to Re: Democrats quickly losing their chances for 2016 and 2018, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Dec 13 16:06:11 2014. Sorry about the multiple posts. |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sat Dec 13 16:36:44 2014, in response to Re: Democrats quickly losing their chances for 2016 and 2018, posted by Fred G on Sat Dec 13 16:34:01 2014. No, "facts" are "facts". |
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Posted by Fred G on Sat Dec 13 16:39:56 2014, in response to Re: Democrats quickly losing their chances for 2016 and 2018, posted by Fred G on Sat Dec 13 16:34:01 2014. I was referring to him replying to all six of your duplicate posts lolAnd Pigs is a hundred percent correct. Your pal, Fred |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sat Dec 13 16:43:34 2014, in response to Re: Democrats quickly losing their chances for 2016 and 2018, posted by Fred G on Sat Dec 13 16:39:56 2014. I already apologized for that. It was a cell phone issue |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Dec 13 16:44:28 2014, in response to Re: Democrats quickly losing their chances for 2016 and 2018, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sat Dec 13 16:36:44 2014. John Adams once said "Facts are stubborn things". |
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Posted by Fred G on Sat Dec 13 16:45:50 2014, in response to Re: Democrats quickly losing their chances for 2016 and 2018, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sat Dec 13 16:43:34 2014. No need to rationalize :)Your pal, Fred |
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Posted by AlM on Sat Dec 13 17:05:09 2014, in response to Re: Democrats quickly losing their chances for 2016 and 2018, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sat Dec 13 16:01:36 2014. So you think 538's analysis is defective? Despite their having the best predictions in 2010, 2012, and 2014, the minute they disagree with your views they're just bullshit? |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Dec 13 17:28:38 2014, in response to Re: Democrats quickly losing their chances for 2016 and 2018, posted by AlM on Sat Dec 13 17:05:09 2014. LOL! |
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Posted by Fred G on Sat Dec 13 17:39:38 2014, in response to Re: Democrats quickly losing their chances for 2016 and 2018, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Dec 13 17:28:38 2014. LOL!!your pal, Fred |
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Posted by SLRT on Sat Dec 13 18:02:43 2014, in response to Re: Democrats quickly losing their chances for 2016 and 2018, posted by Fred G on Sat Dec 13 17:39:38 2014. LOLOL!!!Your turn. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sat Dec 13 19:37:32 2014, in response to Re: Democrats quickly losing their chances for 2016 and 2018, posted by AlM on Sat Dec 13 09:53:22 2014. Which explains how the senate had a democratic majority this year and a Republican majority next year. Geez are you guys desperate or what? |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sat Dec 13 19:38:04 2014, in response to Re: Democrats quickly losing their chances for 2016 and 2018, posted by Train Dude on Sat Dec 13 09:14:48 2014. Do I hear crickets from the left? |
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Posted by AlM on Sat Dec 13 21:07:56 2014, in response to Re: Democrats quickly losing their chances for 2016 and 2018, posted by Train Dude on Sat Dec 13 19:37:32 2014. Huh? How did you get from my statement to yours? |
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