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Re: Politicians kissing ass of one the biggest phonies ever

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Oct 12 18:19:54 2014, in response to Re: Politicians kissing ass of one the biggest phonies ever, posted by Jeff Rosen on Sun Oct 12 18:14:38 2014.

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He was turned away because he was uninsured. Remember that screed posted regularly by the right that if you go to the ER, you MUST be treated regardless? Whoops.

Then there's this:

http://www.dallasnews.com/news/metro/20141010-texas-health-presbyterian-may-face-state-inquiry-in-ebola-case.ece

Manslaughter? Might come to that.

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Re: Politicians kissing ass of one the biggest phonies ever

Posted by Train Dude on Sun Oct 12 18:31:49 2014, in response to Re: Politicians kissing ass of one the biggest phonies ever, posted by AlM on Sun Oct 12 17:46:35 2014.

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While I'm sympathetic, there would seem to be no danger of the illness that your sister-in-law's friend had, spreading and causing massive deaths as those seen in western Africa. I think the Ebola is sufficiently dangerous that we should be more than cautious about comparing it to the measles.

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Posted by bingbong on Sun Oct 12 18:32:23 2014, in response to Re: Politicians kissing ass of one the biggest phonies ever, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Oct 12 18:19:54 2014.

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As I was saying......

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Re: Politicians kissing ass of one the biggest phonies ever

Posted by Train Dude on Sun Oct 12 18:35:49 2014, in response to Re: Politicians kissing ass of one the biggest phonies ever, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Oct 12 18:10:57 2014.

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And you got your medical training, where? Some doctors who deal with infectious diseases speculate that Ebola, like most virus' might mutate to a form that may go air borne. I feel so much safer knowing that you guarantee that will never happen.

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Re: Politicians kissing ass of one the biggest phonies ever

Posted by AlM on Sun Oct 12 18:35:58 2014, in response to Re: Politicians kissing ass of one the biggest phonies ever, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Oct 12 18:19:54 2014.

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He was turned away because he was uninsured

Not what the link you cite says. They screwed up, but they didn't turn him away.




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Re: Politicians kissing ass of one the biggest phonies ever

Posted by Train Dude on Sun Oct 12 18:37:23 2014, in response to Re: Politicians kissing ass of one the biggest phonies ever, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Oct 12 18:19:54 2014.

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He was not turned away. He was treated and sent home. Malpractice, maybe but not racism.

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Re: Politicians kissing ass of one the biggest phonies ever

Posted by Train Dude on Sun Oct 12 18:37:47 2014, in response to Re: Politicians kissing ass of one the biggest phonies ever, posted by AlM on Sun Oct 12 18:35:58 2014.

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Precisely

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Re: Politicians kissing ass of one the biggest phonies ever

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Oct 12 18:41:54 2014, in response to Re: Politicians kissing ass of one the biggest phonies ever, posted by Train Dude on Sun Oct 12 18:35:49 2014.

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Heh. Seriously? I mean REALLY? If only you had learned how to read, you wouldn't be making such a fool of yourself. CDC is who TRAINS doctors in Ebola. Go back and read. Then compare to anthrax and all of the other really infectious diseases. Like eColi. Sheesh. No WONDER you watch Faux News.

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Re: Politicians kissing ass of one the biggest phonies ever

Posted by Train Dude on Sun Oct 12 18:48:07 2014, in response to Re: Politicians kissing ass of one the biggest phonies ever, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Oct 12 18:41:54 2014.

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So you disagree with the medical experts who believe that over time the disease might mutate? What I don't understand is how a guy who can't stop a fucking subway train can an claim to be a medical expert when he had more training as a motorman.

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Re: Politicians kissing ass of one the biggest phonies ever

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Oct 12 18:49:16 2014, in response to Re: Politicians kissing ass of one the biggest phonies ever, posted by AlM on Sun Oct 12 18:35:58 2014.

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Seriously? I understand Train Dude's a raving idiot, but I'm surprised. The first article was posted 5 days ago here.

http://dfw.cbslocal.com/2014/10/07/john-wiley-price-suggests-race-a-factor-in-dallas-ebola-case/

http://healthjournalism.org/blog/2014/10/dallas-ebola-case-raises-questions-about-care-for-the-uninsured/

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Re: Politicians kissing ass of one the biggest phonies ever

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Oct 12 18:53:57 2014, in response to Re: Politicians kissing ass of one the biggest phonies ever, posted by Train Dude on Sun Oct 12 18:37:23 2014.

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So then by your ... "logic" ... that abortion doctor should have only been charged with malpractice then. Texas COULD have gone with Obamacare, and there would have been medicaid money available for this guy. And oh ... he died also.

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Re: Politicians kissing ass of one the biggest phonies ever

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Oct 12 18:55:57 2014, in response to Re: Politicians kissing ass of one the biggest phonies ever, posted by Train Dude on Sun Oct 12 18:48:07 2014.

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Didn't read, did you. :(

Yeah, FOX News ... the leading medical science college. Yeah, the disease could mutate. Sure can. But you see? If you STOP it, then it can mutate somewhere else. And if only republicans would put some money up for research and eradication, like democrats did for tuberculosis and polio, then they could be wiped out entirely. And both were for a while until your folks came back to power.

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Re: Politicians kissing ass of one the biggest phonies ever

Posted by bingbong on Sun Oct 12 19:06:18 2014, in response to Re: Politicians kissing ass of one the biggest phonies ever, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Oct 12 18:55:57 2014.

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Some viruses can readily mutate. This one hasn't in the forty some odd years since it was first isolated. I doubt it's going to now just because it made it to texas.

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Re: Politicians kissing ass of one the biggest phonies ever

Posted by italianstallion on Sun Oct 12 19:18:08 2014, in response to Re: Politicians kissing ass of one the biggest phonies ever, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Oct 12 18:41:54 2014.

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"Some doctors . . . speculate . . ."

Precisely.

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Re: Politicians kissing ass of one the biggest phonies ever

Posted by AlM on Sun Oct 12 19:18:54 2014, in response to Re: Politicians kissing ass of one the biggest phonies ever, posted by bingbong on Sun Oct 12 19:06:18 2014.

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That eminent medical journal, CNN, says a mutation to airborne is more likely, the more people catch it the old way.

Here's an op-ed from the Times

The second possibility is one that virologists are loath to discuss openly but are definitely considering in private: that an Ebola virus could mutate to become transmissible through the air. You can now get Ebola only through direct contact with bodily fluids. But viruses like Ebola are notoriously sloppy in replicating, meaning the virus entering one person may be genetically different from the virus entering the next. The current Ebola virus’s hyper-evolution is unprecedented; there has been more human-to-human transmission in the past four months than most likely occurred in the last 500 to 1,000 years. Each new infection represents trillions of throws of the genetic dice.



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Re: Politicians kissing ass of one the biggest phonies ever

Posted by bingbong on Sun Oct 12 19:22:51 2014, in response to Re: Politicians kissing ass of one the biggest phonies ever, posted by AlM on Sun Oct 12 19:18:54 2014.

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Opinion articles carry what scientific weight?

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Re: Politicians kissing ass of one the biggest phonies ever

Posted by AlM on Sun Oct 12 19:28:15 2014, in response to Re: Politicians kissing ass of one the biggest phonies ever, posted by bingbong on Sun Oct 12 19:22:51 2014.

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About as much as CNN news articles.


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Re: Politicians kissing ass of one the biggest phonies ever

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Oct 12 19:28:29 2014, in response to Re: Politicians kissing ass of one the biggest phonies ever, posted by italianstallion on Sun Oct 12 19:18:08 2014.

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You can lead a republican to truth, but you can't make them read. :)

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Re: Politicians kissing ass of one the biggest phonies ever

Posted by train dude on Sun Oct 12 20:44:48 2014, in response to Re: Politicians kissing ass of one the biggest phonies ever, posted by bingbong on Sun Oct 12 19:22:51 2014.

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Odd that you want to talk about weight

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Re: Politicians kissing ass of one the biggest phonies ever

Posted by train dude on Sun Oct 12 20:45:39 2014, in response to Re: Politicians kissing ass of one the biggest phonies ever, posted by AlM on Sun Oct 12 19:18:54 2014.

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Thank you

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Re: Politicians kissing ass of one the biggest phonies ever

Posted by train dude on Sun Oct 12 20:46:25 2014, in response to Re: Politicians kissing ass of one the biggest phonies ever, posted by italianstallion on Sun Oct 12 19:18:08 2014.

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Denial can be fatal

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Re: Politicians kissing ass of one the biggest phonies ever

Posted by train dude on Sun Oct 12 20:48:01 2014, in response to Re: Politicians kissing ass of one the biggest phonies ever, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Oct 12 18:53:57 2014.

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No that would be your logic. I usually kno what I'm talking about. You - not so much

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Re: Politicians kissing ass of one the biggest phonies ever

Posted by Petabread2 on Sun Oct 12 20:51:53 2014, in response to Re: Politicians kissing ass of one the biggest phonies ever, posted by Olog-hai on Sun Oct 12 12:43:34 2014.

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Diblasio is clueless to anything Nyc. Bill Braxton couldn't run a fish tank and rev sharpton is a thug who has done nothing but created terror in NYC. They are all together the reason why crime will rise again, subway cars will return to open canvasas for graffiti artists.

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Re: Politicians kissing ass of one the biggest phonies ever

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Oct 12 20:56:04 2014, in response to Re: Politicians kissing ass of one the biggest phonies ever, posted by train dude on Sun Oct 12 20:48:01 2014.

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LOL

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Re: Politicians kissing ass of one the biggest phonies ever

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Oct 12 20:59:44 2014, in response to Re: Politicians kissing ass of one the biggest phonies ever, posted by train dude on Sun Oct 12 20:46:25 2014.

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Just take the proper precautions and you'll be fine.



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Re: Politicians kissing ass of one the biggest phonies ever

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Oct 12 21:57:52 2014, in response to Re: Politicians kissing ass of one the biggest phonies ever, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Oct 12 20:59:44 2014.

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Oh wow ... original photo quarantined!

But since it had no insurance, released. :)



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Re: Politicians kissing ass of one the biggest phonies ever

Posted by train dude on Sun Oct 12 22:04:45 2014, in response to Re: Politicians kissing ass of one the biggest phonies ever, posted by Petabread2 on Sun Oct 12 20:51:53 2014.

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+10

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Re: Politicians kissing ass of one the biggest phonies ever

Posted by italianstallion on Sun Oct 12 22:22:13 2014, in response to Re: Politicians kissing ass of one the biggest phonies ever, posted by Petabread2 on Sun Oct 12 20:51:53 2014.

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Bill Braxton? Toni Braxton's father?

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Re: Politicians kissing ass of one the biggest phonies ever

Posted by Dave on Sun Oct 12 22:55:14 2014, in response to Re: Politicians kissing ass of one the biggest phonies ever, posted by bingbong on Sun Oct 12 19:22:51 2014.

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No, but the head of the CDC does carry weight and he said it could mutate into an airborne virus, although that's unlikely.

"The Ebola virus becoming airborne is a possible but unlikely outcome in the current epidemic, Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) Director Tom Frieden said [last week]."

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Re: Politicians kissing ass of one the biggest phonies ever

Posted by train dude on Sun Oct 12 22:58:32 2014, in response to Re: Politicians kissing ass of one the biggest phonies ever, posted by Dave on Sun Oct 12 22:55:14 2014.

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Well to be fair, bingbong must be a virologist in addition to being an expert on power car Windows.

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Re: Politicians kissing ass of one the biggest phonies ever

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Oct 12 23:01:23 2014, in response to Re: Politicians kissing ass of one the biggest phonies ever, posted by train dude on Sun Oct 12 22:58:32 2014.

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Yeah, and you guys are nukular brain scientists. Did you know that flying cars are possible too?

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Re: Politicians kissing ass of one the biggest phonies ever

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Oct 12 23:04:15 2014, in response to Re: Politicians kissing ass of one the biggest phonies ever, posted by Dave on Sun Oct 12 22:55:14 2014.

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Everybody run for the hills! President Ebola is a fail! :)

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Re: Politicians kissing ass of one the biggest phonies ever

Posted by train dude on Sun Oct 12 23:12:42 2014, in response to Re: Politicians kissing ass of one the biggest phonies ever, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Oct 12 23:01:23 2014.

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Childish response. Just admit that she was wrong once again

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Re: Politicians kissing ass of one the biggest phonies ever

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Oct 12 23:23:35 2014, in response to Re: Politicians kissing ass of one the biggest phonies ever, posted by train dude on Sun Oct 12 23:12:42 2014.

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Why should I? Seriously. You're so insistent on remaining within the lines when running with scissors. Show ONE case where it's gone airborne beyond "well it could maybe" ... seriously.

There's a much more likely chance that ISIS has a terrorist sitting in that pool across your lawn waiting for you to stand up in front of a window. :)

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Posted by italianstallion on Sun Oct 12 23:28:49 2014, in response to Re: Politicians kissing ass of one the biggest phonies ever, posted by Dave on Sun Oct 12 22:55:14 2014.

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Any virus can mutate. We need to consider the odds of it.

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Re: Politicians kissing ass of one the biggest phonies ever

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Oct 12 23:30:29 2014, in response to Re: Politicians kissing ass of one the biggest phonies ever, posted by italianstallion on Sun Oct 12 23:28:49 2014.

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And maybe we might want to ante up some research money for those awful science type individuals to get on the case? Nah ... pray fast, die quickly. :(

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Re: Politicians kissing ass of one the biggest phonies ever

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Oct 12 23:48:50 2014, in response to Re: Politicians kissing ass of one the biggest phonies ever, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Oct 12 23:30:29 2014.

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No. This is God punishing us for gay marriage and abortion. We need to pray more to stop Ebola. All the answers are in the Bible.

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Re: Politicians kissing ass of one the biggest phonies ever

Posted by train dude on Mon Oct 13 00:14:41 2014, in response to Re: Politicians kissing ass of one the biggest phonies ever, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Oct 12 23:23:35 2014.

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That's it shit-for-brains, stick to your guns. There's no rule how far back you can move the goal posts.

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Re: Politicians kissing ass of one the biggest phonies ever

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Oct 13 00:14:46 2014, in response to Re: Politicians kissing ass of one the biggest phonies ever, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Oct 12 23:48:50 2014.

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Which is kind of interesting, because that wrath seems to be coming down in the bible-thumping states. Coincidence?

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Re: Politicians kissing ass of one the biggest phonies ever

Posted by train dude on Mon Oct 13 00:15:29 2014, in response to Re: Politicians kissing ass of one the biggest phonies ever, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Oct 12 23:30:29 2014.

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So pay your taxes

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Re: Politicians kissing ass of one the biggest phonies ever

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Oct 13 00:20:36 2014, in response to Re: Politicians kissing ass of one the biggest phonies ever, posted by train dude on Mon Oct 13 00:14:41 2014.

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Heh. How's it like sitting their shivering in your boots and crapping yourself every time you turn on the disinformation appliance? You seem mad. Good. That's what you get for being a gullible, ignorant fucktard. "Shit for brains" ... kek. Look in the mirror.

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Re: Politicians kissing ass of one the biggest phonies ever

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Oct 13 00:21:52 2014, in response to Re: Politicians kissing ass of one the biggest phonies ever, posted by train dude on Mon Oct 13 00:15:29 2014.

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I have no problem doing my part for a civilized society where we take care of one another. You on the other hand belong in Texas. I think Dallas would suit you just fine. You can be among your own there. :)

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Re: Politicians kissing ass of one the biggest phonies ever

Posted by italianstallion on Mon Oct 13 00:26:15 2014, in response to Re: Politicians kissing ass of one the biggest phonies ever, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Oct 13 00:21:52 2014.

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Dallas would be too liberal for him. He needs to be out in Midland/Odessa.

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Re: Politicians kissing ass of one the biggest phonies ever

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Oct 13 00:30:41 2014, in response to Re: Politicians kissing ass of one the biggest phonies ever, posted by italianstallion on Mon Oct 13 00:26:15 2014.

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Yeah, but there are jobs now in Dallas. Cleaning up and whatnot. And it's motorcycle friendly. Just ask Jack Ruby. :)

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Re: Politicians kissing ass of one the biggest phonies ever

Posted by Fred G on Mon Oct 13 07:20:24 2014, in response to Re: Politicians kissing ass of one the biggest phonies ever, posted by AlM on Sun Oct 12 18:01:14 2014.

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They do the same precautions for HIV

The Republican panic over Ebola reminds me of the similar panic over aids in the 80s. We heard people thinking they can get it from a spoon that an HIV infected person used and you had EMT and fire departments saying they would refuse to accommodate HIV infected emergency cases. What's been said about Ebola is that it could mutate into an airborne virus but that's not likely. I remember hearing that same thing about HIV and it never happened. Any virus can mutate, sure, but when they add the "not likely" stipulation that's exactly what it means. One's own doctor will present evidence the exact same way and we don't panic. Some people really need to go back to high school science and study this time.

Your pal,
Fred

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Re: Politicians kissing ass of one the biggest phonies ever

Posted by train dude on Mon Oct 13 09:06:56 2014, in response to Re: Politicians kissing ass of one the biggest phonies ever, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Oct 13 00:21:52 2014.

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We both know that you are full of shit but that's okay. This is your entire social life. This is all you know. It must really suck being you.

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Re: Politicians kissing ass of one the biggest phonies ever

Posted by train dude on Mon Oct 13 09:25:00 2014, in response to Re: Politicians kissing ass of one the biggest phonies ever, posted by Fred G on Mon Oct 13 07:20:24 2014.

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I agree with you Fred. Ebola may be nearly impossible to catch with proper protection. Unfortunately for one nurse in Dallas, it seems something went wrong. Now her contacts are at risk. Protocol changes are coming again. I just don't understand why liberals feel so incumbent to minimize the risks even as medical experts are still not sure.

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Re: Politicians kissing ass of one the biggest phonies ever

Posted by train dude on Mon Oct 13 09:26:09 2014, in response to Re: Politicians kissing ass of one the biggest phonies ever, posted by train dude on Mon Oct 13 09:25:00 2014.

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That should have been "encumbered"

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Re: Politicians kissing ass of one the biggest phonies ever

Posted by Fred G on Mon Oct 13 09:37:03 2014, in response to Re: Politicians kissing ass of one the biggest phonies ever, posted by train dude on Mon Oct 13 09:25:00 2014.

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And upon reading about said nurse, we'll likely find some procedure wasn't followed, and so there's still no justification for Republican panic. And no, we're not minimizing risks, just reading up on the subject and offering an informed opinion. Otherwise we'd have to parrot what FOX tells us.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: Politicians kissing ass of one the biggest phonies ever

Posted by train dude on Mon Oct 13 09:46:48 2014, in response to Re: Politicians kissing ass of one the biggest phonies ever, posted by Fred G on Mon Oct 13 09:37:03 2014.

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First of all, I'd consider it to be prudent concern and find the term "panic" extremely exaggerated. Second, how did you determine that ONLY Republicans are concerned. That sort of broad brushing is more symptomatic of the bingbongs.

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