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Trying to find out more about youth shot in suburban STL

Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Aug 11 20:06:53 2014

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"Unarmed".

Ok.

So was this kid some random guy cops saw and shot?

Stormfront is saying that the cop exchanged words with teen and the teen struggled with cop.

If that's true............well that kind of changes things.

Stormfront also had a photo of the youth flashing a gang sign. Wonder if that photo is legit?

I see AMerica entering an era where minorities can commit home invasions unarmed and if you shoot them to defend your property you're violating their civil rights.

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Re: Trying to find out more about youth shot in suburban STL

Posted by Dave on Mon Aug 11 21:18:41 2014, in response to Trying to find out more about youth shot in suburban STL, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Aug 11 20:06:53 2014.

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Leave this one alone, Luch. You know nothing about the neighborhood, nothing about the people who live there, nothing about how they get along or don't get along with nearby neighborhoods. Anything you find on line will be speculative and incorrect.

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Re: Trying to find out more about youth shot in suburban STL

Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Aug 11 21:35:53 2014, in response to Re: Trying to find out more about youth shot in suburban STL, posted by Dave on Mon Aug 11 21:18:41 2014.

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Using your logic, no one should comment in 90% of what is posted here.

I'm asking questions. I did not pass judgement.

Thanks for attacking again.


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Re: Trying to find out more about youth shot in suburban STL

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Mon Aug 11 22:32:36 2014, in response to Re: Trying to find out more about youth shot in suburban STL, posted by Dave on Mon Aug 11 21:18:41 2014.

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wow i agree !!!
iawtp

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Re: Trying to find out more about youth shot in suburban STL

Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Aug 11 22:42:55 2014, in response to Re: Trying to find out more about youth shot in suburban STL, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Mon Aug 11 22:32:36 2014.

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have you been to Sanford, Florida?

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Re: Trying to find out more about youth shot in suburban STL

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Mon Aug 11 22:46:07 2014, in response to Re: Trying to find out more about youth shot in suburban STL, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Aug 11 22:42:55 2014.

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far south i have been is orlando florida and jacksonville

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Re: Trying to find out more about youth shot in suburban STL

Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Aug 11 22:51:13 2014, in response to Re: Trying to find out more about youth shot in suburban STL, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Mon Aug 11 22:46:07 2014.

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well i've been to St. Louis and it's suburbs.

So I guess we both win this thread.





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Re: Trying to find out more about youth shot in suburban STL

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Mon Aug 11 22:52:17 2014, in response to Re: Trying to find out more about youth shot in suburban STL, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Aug 11 22:51:13 2014.

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i was in st louis once saw the big rams stadium from the outside

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Re: Trying to find out more about youth shot in suburban STL

Posted by Dave on Tue Aug 12 07:42:30 2014, in response to Re: Trying to find out more about youth shot in suburban STL, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Aug 11 21:35:53 2014.

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I didn't say you'd pass judgement. Others will, wrongly.

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Re: Trying to find out more about youth shot in suburban STL

Posted by AlM on Tue Aug 12 08:15:13 2014, in response to Re: Trying to find out more about youth shot in suburban STL, posted by Dave on Mon Aug 11 21:18:41 2014.

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Anything you find on line will be speculative and incorrect.

That's pretty much true of most incediary news stories of this type. There is often no real way to figure out what really happened.




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Re: Trying to find out more about youth shot in suburban STL

Posted by Dave on Tue Aug 12 09:17:11 2014, in response to Re: Trying to find out more about youth shot in suburban STL, posted by AlM on Tue Aug 12 08:15:13 2014.

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It's more than that. You need to be a long-time St. Louisan to understand the situation. St. Louis County is a county of 100 towns, each with its own police and fire departments, its own way of doing things. Without understanding the underlying dynamics there, you will not understand why what's happening there is happening.

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Re: Trying to find out more about youth shot in suburban STL

Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Aug 12 10:48:13 2014, in response to Re: Trying to find out more about youth shot in suburban STL, posted by Dave on Tue Aug 12 09:17:11 2014.

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The mayor's name there is Francis G. Slay. That's bad enough. Never mind that the mayor's office has been held by Democrats since 1953; that's not important, right?

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Re: Trying to find out more about youth shot in suburban STL

Posted by Jeff Rosen on Tue Aug 12 11:21:55 2014, in response to Trying to find out more about youth shot in suburban STL, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Aug 11 20:06:53 2014.

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Stormfront???? You're citing Stormfront???

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Re: Trying to find out more about youth shot in suburban STL

Posted by Dave on Tue Aug 12 11:25:35 2014, in response to Re: Trying to find out more about youth shot in suburban STL, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Aug 12 10:48:13 2014.

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No, it's not. With the exception of Freeman Bosley, Jr., all the mayors since Tucker have done a pretty good job. Bosley was a disaster but that had nothing to do with his being a Democrat; it was because he was a crook who along with his cronies, raped the city.

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Re: Trying to find out more about youth shot in suburban STL

Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Aug 12 11:27:02 2014, in response to Re: Trying to find out more about youth shot in suburban STL, posted by Jeff Rosen on Tue Aug 12 11:21:55 2014.

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Kind of.

Their message board is interesting and I thank dan d 124 for pointing me in that direction.

I read the racismreview blog too. It's important to get all perspectives.

Stormfront posters show a photo of the teen youth flashing a gang sign. I figure it's real but you never know.



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Re: Trying to find out more about youth shot in suburban STL

Posted by AlM on Tue Aug 12 11:32:04 2014, in response to Re: Trying to find out more about youth shot in suburban STL, posted by Dave on Tue Aug 12 11:25:35 2014.

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Ologia: All Democrata are bad; most Republicans are RINOs.


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Re: Trying to find out more about youth shot in suburban STL

Posted by AlM on Tue Aug 12 11:33:54 2014, in response to Re: Trying to find out more about youth shot in suburban STL, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Aug 12 11:27:02 2014.

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Their message board is interesting

That can also be said of the postings of ISIS. :)



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Re: Trying to find out more about youth shot in suburban STL

Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Aug 12 11:35:58 2014, in response to Re: Trying to find out more about youth shot in suburban STL, posted by Jeff Rosen on Tue Aug 12 11:21:55 2014.

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Does the FBI/DOJ automatically investigate every time a cop shoots someone, or only when the victim is black?

Supposedly there was a struggle over a gun. Everyone else is acting like cops saw some random black kid and just shot him for fun(like blacks attacking whites for fun in the KO game). But the struggle angle is not something I'd know about if not for Stormfront or some other message boards Misc sections. And it's important to see things from various perspectives vs. the MSM.

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Re: Trying to find out more about youth shot in suburban STL

Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Aug 12 11:37:04 2014, in response to Re: Trying to find out more about youth shot in suburban STL, posted by AlM on Tue Aug 12 11:33:54 2014.

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That can also be said of the postings of ISIS. :)

Um.......ok.

I like to see things from various perspectives.

So what do you think happened here? White cop saw random black kid and shot him for fun?


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Re: Trying to find out more about youth shot in suburban STL

Posted by AlM on Tue Aug 12 12:34:21 2014, in response to Re: Trying to find out more about youth shot in suburban STL, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Aug 12 11:37:04 2014.

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I've got no idea what happened in this case. Sometimes cops shoot innocent people; often they shoot people who are trying to kill them.

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Re: Trying to find out more about youth shot in suburban STL

Posted by Dave on Tue Aug 12 14:15:35 2014, in response to Re: Trying to find out more about youth shot in suburban STL, posted by AlM on Tue Aug 12 11:32:04 2014.

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Charlie Dooley has been St. Louis County Executive since 2003. He's a Democrat and has done a fantastic job.

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Re: Trying to find out more about youth shot in suburban STL

Posted by Dave on Tue Aug 12 14:19:15 2014, in response to Re: Trying to find out more about youth shot in suburban STL, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Aug 12 11:35:58 2014.

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Fox has been reporting the struggle, Luch.

<< Authorities have been vague about what led the officer to open fire, saying only that the shooting -- which is being investigated by the St. Louis County police at the smaller city's request -- was preceded by a scuffle of some kind with a man in which the officer's weapon discharged once inside a patrol car. >>

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Re: Trying to find out more about youth shot in suburban STL

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Tue Aug 12 14:21:16 2014, in response to Re: Trying to find out more about youth shot in suburban STL, posted by Dave on Tue Aug 12 14:19:15 2014.

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that was the POLICE version not the truth

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Re: Trying to find out more about youth shot in suburban STL

Posted by AlM on Tue Aug 12 14:33:49 2014, in response to Re: Trying to find out more about youth shot in suburban STL, posted by Dave on Tue Aug 12 14:19:15 2014.

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in which the officer's weapon discharged once inside a patrol car.

Not to prejudge, but that doesn't sound good for the police. Suspects aren't supposed to be placed in a patrol car until they are unable to do things like try to grab a gun.


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Re: Trying to find out more about youth shot in suburban STL

Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Aug 12 14:44:22 2014, in response to Re: Trying to find out more about youth shot in suburban STL, posted by AlM on Tue Aug 12 14:33:49 2014.

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Not to prejudge, but that doesn't sound good for the police. Suspects aren't supposed to be placed in a patrol car until they are unable to do things like try to grab a gun.

The story is that the cop was in the car and opened his door and the guy rushed him before he could even get out.


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Re: Trying to find out more about youth shot in suburban STL

Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Aug 12 14:48:55 2014, in response to Re: Trying to find out more about youth shot in suburban STL, posted by Dave on Tue Aug 12 14:19:15 2014.

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Fox has been reporting the struggle, Luch.

Thanks.

And I don't watch Fox News. Have not listened to radio in months.

So again, thanks for the info. I'll watch Hannity tonight for more info.


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Re: Trying to find out more about youth shot in suburban STL

Posted by train dude on Tue Aug 12 14:55:39 2014, in response to Re: Trying to find out more about youth shot in suburban STL, posted by AlM on Tue Aug 12 14:33:49 2014.

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Not to pre-judge but thsts just what you are doing

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Re: Trying to find out more about youth shot in suburban STL

Posted by AlM on Tue Aug 12 14:57:05 2014, in response to Re: Trying to find out more about youth shot in suburban STL, posted by train dude on Tue Aug 12 14:55:39 2014.

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Just saying it doesn't look good. We'll see what comes out. I'm not drawing up any indictments, that's for sure.



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Re: Trying to find out more about youth shot in suburban STL

Posted by train dude on Tue Aug 12 14:59:42 2014, in response to Re: Trying to find out more about youth shot in suburban STL, posted by AlM on Tue Aug 12 14:57:05 2014.

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You are suggesting that the officer didn't follow procedures.



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Re: Trying to find out more about youth shot in suburban STL

Posted by train dude on Tue Aug 12 15:03:14 2014, in response to Re: Trying to find out more about youth shot in suburban STL, posted by AlM on Tue Aug 12 12:34:21 2014.

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What we do know is this unfortunate incident provided lots of people with a new pair of free "felony flyers" to wear to school ..

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Re: Trying to find out more about youth shot in suburban STL

Posted by AlM on Tue Aug 12 15:05:42 2014, in response to Re: Trying to find out more about youth shot in suburban STL, posted by train dude on Tue Aug 12 14:59:42 2014.

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I'm suggesting that's the way it looks. I could very well be wrong.


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Re: Trying to find out more about youth shot in suburban STL

Posted by train dude on Tue Aug 12 15:08:39 2014, in response to Re: Trying to find out more about youth shot in suburban STL, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Tue Aug 12 14:21:16 2014.

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Re: Trying to find out more about youth shot in suburban STL

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Tue Aug 12 15:09:21 2014, in response to Re: Trying to find out more about youth shot in suburban STL, posted by train dude on Tue Aug 12 15:08:39 2014.

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the police MURDERED this young man

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Re: Trying to find out more about youth shot in suburban STL

Posted by train dude on Tue Aug 12 15:11:25 2014, in response to Re: Trying to find out more about youth shot in suburban STL, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Tue Aug 12 15:09:21 2014.

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Re: Trying to find out more about youth shot in suburban STL

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Tue Aug 12 15:12:08 2014, in response to Re: Trying to find out more about youth shot in suburban STL, posted by train dude on Tue Aug 12 15:11:25 2014.

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Re: Trying to find out more about youth shot in suburban STL

Posted by Dave on Tue Aug 12 16:05:00 2014, in response to Re: Trying to find out more about youth shot in suburban STL, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Tue Aug 12 15:09:21 2014.

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Were you there to see it? Since the answer to that question is no, then you don't know. No one knows except the cop and the dead man.

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Re: Trying to find out more about youth shot in suburban STL

Posted by Dave on Tue Aug 12 16:06:05 2014, in response to Re: Trying to find out more about youth shot in suburban STL, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Aug 12 14:48:55 2014.

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It has been reported on their web site since yesterday. I didn't check other sites like CNN.

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Re: Trying to find out more about youth shot in suburban STL

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Tue Aug 12 16:09:39 2014, in response to Re: Trying to find out more about youth shot in suburban STL, posted by Dave on Tue Aug 12 16:05:00 2014.

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i heard the eye witnesss on the al sharpton show who did see it
the tapes were played
he was UNARMED and shot with his hands up IN COLD BLOOD MURDER
these are the true FACTS

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Re: Trying to find out more about youth shot in suburban STL

Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Aug 12 16:12:12 2014, in response to Re: Trying to find out more about youth shot in suburban STL, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Tue Aug 12 16:09:39 2014.

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so the cop saw some kid and decided to just shoot him?

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Re: Trying to find out more about youth shot in suburban STL

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Tue Aug 12 16:14:24 2014, in response to Re: Trying to find out more about youth shot in suburban STL, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Aug 12 16:12:12 2014.

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thats exactly what happened and the eye witness all said this

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Re: Trying to find out more about youth shot in suburban STL

Posted by Train Dude on Tue Aug 12 17:47:20 2014, in response to Re: Trying to find out more about youth shot in suburban STL, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Tue Aug 12 15:12:08 2014.

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Re: Trying to find out more about youth shot in suburban STL

Posted by Train Dude on Tue Aug 12 17:50:12 2014, in response to Re: Trying to find out more about youth shot in suburban STL, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Tue Aug 12 16:14:24 2014.

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Re: Trying to find out more about youth shot in suburban STL

Posted by Train Dude on Tue Aug 12 17:52:14 2014, in response to Re: Trying to find out more about youth shot in suburban STL, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Aug 12 16:12:12 2014.

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Sure. He just felt like throwing his career away, incur hundreds of thousands in legal bills and risk going to jail just because he felt like shooting a kid for no reason.

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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Tue Aug 12 17:54:32 2014, in response to Re: Trying to find out more about youth shot in suburban STL, posted by Train Dude on Tue Aug 12 17:50:12 2014.

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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Tue Aug 12 17:55:15 2014, in response to Re: Trying to find out more about youth shot in suburban STL, posted by Train Dude on Tue Aug 12 17:52:14 2014.

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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Tue Aug 12 17:56:07 2014, in response to Re: Trying to find out more about youth shot in suburban STL, posted by Train Dude on Tue Aug 12 17:47:20 2014.

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Posted by Train Dude on Tue Aug 12 17:57:03 2014, in response to Re: Trying to find out more about youth shot in suburban STL, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Tue Aug 12 17:54:32 2014.

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Posted by Train Dude on Tue Aug 12 17:57:25 2014, in response to Re: Trying to find out more about youth shot in suburban STL, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Tue Aug 12 17:55:15 2014.

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Posted by Train Dude on Tue Aug 12 17:58:51 2014, in response to Re: Trying to find out more about youth shot in suburban STL, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Tue Aug 12 17:56:07 2014.

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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Tue Aug 12 17:59:14 2014, in response to Re: Trying to find out more about youth shot in suburban STL, posted by Train Dude on Tue Aug 12 17:57:03 2014.

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