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Re: Person Verbs Number Adjective People From Place!
Posted by Nilet* on Wed Jun 4 11:21:35 2014, in response to Re: Obama Frees Five Top Terrorists From Gitmo!, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jun 4 10:42:47 2014.* fiogf49gjkf0d ...says the troll so blatant he actually chose the handle "Olog-Hai."
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Re: Obama Frees Five Innocent People From Gitmo!
Posted by Nilet* on Wed Jun 4 11:21:44 2014, in response to Re: Obama Frees Five Innocent People From Gitmo!, posted by bingbong on Wed Jun 4 11:13:27 2014.* fiogf49gjkf0d I would never go to a place like that, even Fauxnews and some of the "lamer" RW sites serve enough malware to crash a mac. Thus making them the perfect acid test for KNOS! :)
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Re: Obama Frees Five Innocent People From Gitmo!
Posted by bingbong* on Wed Jun 4 11:29:39 2014, in response to Re: Obama Frees Five Innocent People From Gitmo!, posted by Nilet on Wed Jun 4 11:21:44 2014.* fiogf49gjkf0d Yep. But that's our little secret. :-)
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Re: Obama Frees Five Random Dudes From Gitmo!
Posted by Dave* on Wed Jun 4 11:34:34 2014, in response to Re: Obama Frees Five Random Dudes From Gitmo!, posted by Nilet on Wed Jun 4 11:21:32 2014.* fiogf49gjkf0d The story was reported on multiple sources so if you google "Bergdahl army 2010" you'll find them. Yahoo, WaPo, CBS news, etc.
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Re: Obama Frees Five Random Dudes From Gitmo!
Posted by Nilet* on Wed Jun 4 11:51:52 2014, in response to Re: Obama Frees Five Random Dudes From Gitmo!, posted by Dave on Wed Jun 4 11:34:34 2014.* fiogf49gjkf0d Those same sources that reported everyone in Guantanamo was a terrorist and the camp only held the worst of the worst before the government ultimately admitted that 95% of them were innocent?
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Obama frees five top terrorists from Gitmo and distracts from VA scandal
Posted by Olog-hai* on Wed Jun 4 12:18:03 2014, in response to Obama Frees Five Top Terrorists From Gitmo!, posted by bklynsubwaybob on Sun Jun 1 20:12:49 2014.* fiogf49gjkf0d The Hill Bergdahl bumps VA from spotlight By Kevin Cirilli 06/01/14 02:26 PM EDT The Taliban’s release of Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl dominated the Sunday talk shows, pushing Friday’s resignation of Veterans Affairs Secretary Eric Shinseki from the headlines. The Sunday shows were packed with administration officials defending the decision and Republicans launching into political attacks against President Obama and the administration for transferring five Taliban members from Guantánamo Bay to Qatar in exchange for the release of Bergdahl, the 28-year-old whom the Taliban released on Saturday. "Disturbing" was how Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas) put it on ABC's "This Week." "Dangerous," echoed House Intelligence Committee Chairman Mike Rogers (R-Mich.) on CNN's "State of The Union." "We need more information about the conditions of where they're going to be and how," said Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) on CBS's "Face The Nation." Administration officials hit back hard against the insinuation that Obama negotiated with terrorists and broke the law requiring him to notify Congress 30 days before the release or transfer of Guantánamo Bay prisoners. Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel and national security adviser Susan Rice in separate Sunday show interviews said that Obama acted within his constitutional authority as commander in chief, forced to act against non-state actors as Bergdahl's health was deteriorating. “We didn’t negotiate with terrorists,” Hagel said on NBC’s “Meet the Press.” “Sgt. Bergdahl is a prisoner of war, that’s a normal process in getting your prisoners back. … We don’t let anyone out of Guantánamo, and I will not sign off on any detainee coming out of Guantánamo unless I am assured … that we can efficiently mitigate any risk to American security." Rice said on CNN's "State of the Union" that Defense Department officials consulted with Department of Justice officials prior to the transfers. "Given the acute urgency of the health condition of Sgt. Bergdahl and given the president's constitutional responsibilities, it was determined that it was necessary and appropriate not to adhere to the 30-day notification requirements because it would have potentially meant that the opportunity to get Sgt. Bergdahl would have been lost," Rice said on CNN. Obama on Saturday announced that the Taliban released Bergdahl, who had been held for nearly five years after being captured in Afghanistan. Then came multiple reports that U.S. officials released five Taliban members from Guantánamo Bay. Those members are Khair Ulla Said Wali Khairkhwa, Mullah Mohammad Fazl, Mullah Norullah Nori, Abdul Haq Wasiq and Mohammad Nabi Omari, according to multiple reports. McCain said that while the administration had previously told Congress about the possibility of transferring the Taliban members for the release of Bergdahl, such a plan had received "bipartisan opposition." "There was discussions that I heard way back as far back as two years ago to release these people," McCain said on CBS. "There was a bipartisan opposition to that. But obviously, what's done is done." Republicans argued that terrorists would be more inclined to kidnap U.S. soldiers in order to hold them ransom, and that the administration's latest tactic could put America's troops and its allies in danger. Sen. Claire McCaskill (D-Mo.) dismissed the GOP attacks as nothing more than politics. "We save an American life on foreign soil, the president gets criticized. We lose American lives on foreign soil, the president gets criticized,” she said on Fox's "Fox News Sunday." “Are you seeing a theme here? It’s politics.” But the questions surrounding the transfer could prove a political headache for the administration in the coming days. Republicans have sought to criticize the administration's foreign policy as ineffective and weak. Meanwhile, administration officials dodged questions about whether Bergdahl deserted the military and his capture more than five years ago. Some critics allege that Bergdahl walked off his base in Eastern Afghanistan in 2007. ABC News "This Week" host George Stephanopoulos asked Rice whether such allegations would be "investigated." "If it is found that he did, will he be disciplined or has he already paid the price?" Stephanopoulos asked. "Certainly, anybody who has been held in those conditions in captivity for five years has paid an extraordinary price, but that is really not the point," Rice said. "The point is he's back. He's going to be safely reunited with his family. He served the United States with honor and distinction." "We'll have the opportunity to learn eventually what happened in the past years,” she added. “But what's most important now is his health and well-being and that he have the opportunity to recover in peace and security and be reunited with his family, which is why this is such a joyous day." On NBC, Hagel echoed similar themes. “I'm not surprised that there are still questions, and until we get the facts exactly what the condition of Sergeant Bergdahl is, we can't go much further in speculating,” Hagel said. “But, you know, this is a guy who probably went through hell the last five years and let's focus on getting him well and getting him back with his family.” Bergdahl has yet to be reunited with his parents, Bob and Jani Bergdahl, who stood behind Obama during a Rose Garden address Saturday during which the president discussed the incident. Bergdahl’s father said on Sunday that there were “too many people to thank” for his son’s release. Bob Bergdahl said Bowe should listen to the “devoted team” that’s working with him in Germany. “Listen to their instructions. Listen to them. They are hand-picked people,” Bob Bergdahl said. “They are here to help you.” —This report was updated at 3:33 p.m.
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Re: Obama Frees Five Top Terrorists From Gitmo!
Posted by Olog-hai* on Wed Jun 4 14:32:08 2014, in response to Re: Obama Frees Five Random Dudes From Gitmo!, posted by Dave on Wed Jun 4 11:34:34 2014.* fiogf49gjkf0d Those liberal media outlets are now suddenly "right wing rags" for going to the right of Obama, who is to the right of Nilet.
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Re: Olog Fails To Answer Simple Question
Posted by Nilet* on Wed Jun 4 14:37:30 2014, in response to Re: Obama Frees Five Top Terrorists From Gitmo!, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jun 4 14:32:08 2014.* fiogf49gjkf0d OK, back to basics. Define "liberal." Define "conservative." Or shut up.
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Re: Richard Frees Five Slow Bats From Cavern!
Posted by Train Dude* on Wed Jun 4 16:21:10 2014, in response to Re: Richard Frees Five Slow Bats From Cavern!, posted by Nilet on Wed Jun 4 10:05:34 2014.* fiogf49gjkf0d Not trolling - just responding to a legitimate posting.
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Re: Richard Frees Five Slow Bats From Cavern!
Posted by Nilet* on Wed Jun 4 17:01:05 2014, in response to Re: Richard Frees Five Slow Bats From Cavern!, posted by Train Dude on Wed Jun 4 16:21:10 2014.* fiogf49gjkf0d "Legitimate posting" is undefined, however both your post and his were (a) incorrect, (b) incoherent, and (c) trolling.
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Re: Obama Frees Five Prisoners From Gitmo!
Posted by Jeff Rosen* on Wed Jun 4 17:08:08 2014, in response to Re: Obama Frees Five Prisoners From Gitmo!, posted by Nilet on Mon Jun 2 07:56:21 2014.* fiogf49gjkf0d Nilet
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Re: Obama Frees Five Prisoners From Gitmo!
Posted by Nilet* on Wed Jun 4 17:09:42 2014, in response to Re: Obama Frees Five Prisoners From Gitmo!, posted by Jeff Rosen on Wed Jun 4 17:08:08 2014.* fiogf49gjkf0d Explain your reasoning.
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Re: Obama Frees Five Top Terrorists From Gitmo!
Posted by bklynsubwaybob* on Wed Jun 4 17:58:28 2014, in response to Re: Obama Frees Five Top Terrorists From Gitmo!, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jun 3 21:48:00 2014.* fiogf49gjkf0d If it's not executive privilege please tell me what it is. He still should not be allowed to do what he's been doing without oversight.
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Re: Obama Grudingly Frees Five Innocent From Gitmo; Hundreds More Remain
Posted by bklynsubwaybob on Wed Jun 4 18:06:25 2014, in response to Re: Obama Grudingly Frees Five Innocent From Gitmo; Hundreds More Remain, posted by Train Dude on Tue Jun 3 23:35:35 2014. fiogf49gjkf0d It was also made public last night that six soldiers died in efforts to free him from his alleged captors. I wonder if they will charge him with murder. The military courts are a lot rougher than civilian courts, maybe he could be tried for murder and sentenced to death.
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Re: Obama Grudingly Frees Five Innocent From Gitmo; Hundreds More Remain
Posted by bklynsubwaybob on Wed Jun 4 19:22:13 2014, in response to Re: Obama Grudingly Frees Five Innocent From Gitmo; Hundreds More Remain, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Jun 4 03:52:46 2014. fiogf49gjkf0d Sweat laden smelly socks:)
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Re: Obama Frees Five Top Terrorists From Gitmo!
Posted by Olog-hai* on Wed Jun 4 19:24:21 2014, in response to Re: Obama Frees Five Top Terrorists From Gitmo!, posted by bklynsubwaybob on Wed Jun 4 17:58:28 2014.* fiogf49gjkf0d Executive privilege has to do with not having to release information or documents, even when subpoenaed for it. It's not in the Constitution, in case you're wondering; it came to be by judicial fiat in "United States vs. Nixon".
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Re: Obama Frees Five Top Terrorists From Gitmo!
Posted by bklynsubwaybob* on Wed Jun 4 19:25:44 2014, in response to Re: Obama Frees Five Top Terrorists From Gitmo!, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jun 4 19:24:21 2014.* fiogf49gjkf0d Thanks for the correction.
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Re: Obama Frees Five Top Terrorists From Gitmo!
Posted by Olog-hai* on Wed Jun 4 19:37:22 2014, in response to Re: Olog Fails To Answer Simple Question, posted by Nilet on Wed Jun 4 14:37:30 2014.* fiogf49gjkf0d LOL! Sorry, but you don't get to ask that question after making what is either the stupidest or the funniest post ever on Subchat. That post means that if I "define" something for you, you won't understand it anyway.
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Re: Obama Frees Five Top Terrorists From Gitmo!
Posted by gp38/r42 chris* on Wed Jun 4 20:27:25 2014, in response to Re: Obama Frees Five Top Terrorists From Gitmo!, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jun 4 19:37:22 2014.* fiogf49gjkf0d He doesn't realize he's been made fun of for years at otchat for that post. He thinks its about bacon cheese burgers.
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Re: Obama Frees Five Prisoners From Gitmo!
Posted by gp38/r42 chris* on Wed Jun 4 20:37:01 2014, in response to Re: Obama Frees Five Prisoners From Gitmo!, posted by Jeff Rosen on Wed Jun 4 17:08:08 2014.* fiogf49gjkf0d Couldn't have said it better.
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Re: Richard Frees Five Slow Bats From Cavern!
Posted by gp38/r42 chris* on Wed Jun 4 20:40:47 2014, in response to Re: Richard Frees Five Slow Bats From Cavern!, posted by Train Dude on Wed Jun 4 16:21:10 2014.* fiogf49gjkf0d Any post where he doesn't respond to with his OCD italicized, sentence by sentence, too long to bother to read, trolling post is "incoherant".
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Re: Obama Grudingly Frees Five Innocent From Gitmo; Hundreds More Remain
Posted by SelkirkTMO* on Wed Jun 4 21:59:22 2014, in response to Re: Obama Grudingly Frees Five Innocent From Gitmo; Hundreds More Remain, posted by bklynsubwaybob on Wed Jun 4 19:22:13 2014.* fiogf49gjkf0d Aw hell ... might as well toss that NYCTA glove with arnine oil on it. THAT'LL stick! :)
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Re: Obama Grudingly Frees Five Innocent From Gitmo; Hundreds More Remain
Posted by SelkirkTMO* on Wed Jun 4 22:02:11 2014, in response to Re: Obama Grudingly Frees Five Innocent From Gitmo; Hundreds More Remain, posted by Train Dude on Wed Jun 4 09:19:09 2014.* fiogf49gjkf0d We shall see ...
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Re: Olog Can't Define Simple Terms
Posted by Nilet* on Thu Jun 5 05:37:40 2014, in response to Re: Obama Frees Five Top Terrorists From Gitmo!, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jun 4 19:37:22 2014.* fiogf49gjkf0d Rationalise all you want— though you use these words repeatedly, you don't actually know what they mean and every time you dodge the question you make yourself look like more of a fool. Define "liberal." Define "conservative." Or shut up.
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Re: Palovar Frees Epsilon From Drasey Prison!
Posted by Nilet* on Thu Jun 5 05:37:45 2014, in response to Re: Obama Frees Five Top Terrorists From Gitmo!, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Jun 4 20:27:25 2014.* fiogf49gjkf0d He doesn't realize he's been made fun of for years at otchat for that post. Make fun of me all you like. The opinions of a mentally handicapped pissant too scared to address me directly are completely irrelevant to me. He thinks its about bacon cheese burgers. OK, that's a complete non sequitur completely unrelated to anything in this subthread. I'd ask you to explain it, but you're too much of a coward.
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Re: Richard Frees Five Slow Bats From Cavern!
Posted by Nilet* on Thu Jun 5 05:38:03 2014, in response to Re: Richard Frees Five Slow Bats From Cavern!, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Jun 4 20:40:47 2014.* fiogf49gjkf0d Nope. Your posts that contain no valid response, no true statements, and few if any semantically valid sentences are "incoherent." If length is a problem since addressing a long post would cut into the time you have for whining about me, I'll keep this to one sentence: How does a Canadian citizen changing planes in JFK Airport does not meet any coherent definition of "combatant" or "enemy?" That's just 20 words. I'm sure you can handle it.
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Re: Obama Frees Five Top Terrorists From Gitmo!
Posted by Fred G* on Thu Jun 5 06:08:43 2014, in response to Re: Obama Frees Five Top Terrorists From Gitmo!, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jun 4 19:37:22 2014.* fiogf49gjkf0d Even stupider than these? LOL!!! your pal, Fred
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Re: Palovar Frees Epsilon From Drasey Prison!
Posted by gp38/r42 chris* on Thu Jun 5 06:30:52 2014, in response to Re: Palovar Frees Epsilon From Drasey Prison!, posted by Nilet on Thu Jun 5 05:37:45 2014.* fiogf49gjkf0d Yet its wondered why the vast majority don't even bother clicking on your posts much less respond to aside from 3-5 people here or a few random others occasionally. No one takes you seriously
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Re: Palovar Frees Epsilon From Drasey Prison!
Posted by Nilet* on Thu Jun 5 06:46:49 2014, in response to Re: Palovar Frees Epsilon From Drasey Prison!, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Thu Jun 5 06:30:52 2014.* fiogf49gjkf0d Yet its wondered why the vast majority don't even bother clicking on your posts much less respond to aside from 3-5 people here or a few random others occasionally. Olog Train Dude Streetcarman Edwards Easy Fred Selkirk Bingbong WMATA Gamera ChicagoMotorman 3-9 That's a dozen people right there. Add Spider-Pig, LuchAAA, and yourself and that bumps it up to an even 15. Can we go for 20? DAnD124, AlM, Terrapin, Jeff Rosen, Dave. Yeah, keep shrieking in impotent rage that no one takes me seriously. Definitely keep spending hours telling me you're completely ignoring me— Netflix isn't working and my popcorn is getting cold. No one takes you seriously You certainly do. Seems like everyone else does too.
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Re: Palovar Frees Epsilon From Drasey Prison!
Posted by GP38/R42 Chris* on Thu Jun 5 07:32:58 2014, in response to Re: Palovar Frees Epsilon From Drasey Prison!, posted by Nilet on Thu Jun 5 06:46:49 2014.* fiogf49gjkf0d LOL, let's see, although we have been through this before, although, in your fantasy world, only you are correct of course, so you must not remember. Olog - LOL! Take you seriously? No. Train Dude -e thinks your an annoying dog that bites at the ankles, hasn't engaged you in any real conversation. Streetcarman - LOL!!! No one even takes HIM seriously! Edwards - A few random posts (mentioned in addition to the 3-5) Although he only responds to your annoying rants as he likes to see any sort of controversy against anyone right of center. Easy - He learned quick. How many meaningful engages have you had here with him? A few random posts here in there (falls into that category) Fred - Fred doesn't engage you in any real conversation. Selkirk - See Edwards. Bingbong - See Selkirk. WMATA - One of the 3-5 that must have actually thought you were reasonable, and must be a glutton for punishment, as he keeps trying. But it's like pissing against the wind with you. Gamera - LOL. ChicagoMotorman - One of the 3-5, but none of the exchanges are meaningful aside from flaming eachother 3-9 - One of the 3-5. .... Add Spider-Pig, - LOL!! And what meaningful conversation? He gave up long ago, I wouldn't even put him in the 3-5. LuchAAA - Luch uses you as a game, as he should, as that's all you are good for here. and yourself - I didn't take you seriously for years, although, when the place was bearable before you decided to become a regular OTChater. ... DAnD124 - And how many times has he engaged you in meaningful conversation since realizing what a dick you are? AlM - One of the 3-5, but even he's seem to have given up hope for your pathetic ass lately. Terrapin - Uh, no. Jeff Rosen - And how often has he had meaningful debate with you outside of random posts? Dave - See Jeff.
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Re: Palovar Frees Epsilon From Drasey Prison!
Posted by Nilet* on Thu Jun 5 07:42:44 2014, in response to Re: Palovar Frees Epsilon From Drasey Prison!, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Jun 5 07:32:58 2014.* fiogf49gjkf0d LOL, let's see, although we have been through this before, although, in your fantasy world, only you are correct of course, so you must not remember. Indeed, we have been through this before. You challenged my list, I proved each name on it was valid, and you couldn't prove otherwise so you ran away and hoped your silence would hide the fact that you were proven wrong. No need to bother retyping the whole list; just read it here.
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Re: Olog Can't Define Simple Terms
Posted by streetcarman1* on Thu Jun 5 08:04:18 2014, in response to Re: Olog Can't Define Simple Terms, posted by Nilet on Thu Jun 5 05:37:40 2014.* fiogf49gjkf0d In his "world" those words don't convey the same meaning as "normal" people would convey them.
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Re: Olog Can't Define Simple Terms
Posted by Nilet* on Thu Jun 5 08:10:57 2014, in response to Re: Olog Can't Define Simple Terms, posted by streetcarman1 on Thu Jun 5 08:04:18 2014.* fiogf49gjkf0d You're telling me!
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Re: Palovar Frees Epsilon From Drasey Prison!
Posted by GP38/R42 Chris* on Thu Jun 5 09:51:00 2014, in response to Re: Palovar Frees Epsilon From Drasey Prison!, posted by Nilet on Thu Jun 5 07:42:44 2014.* fiogf49gjkf0d You weren't right then, and you aren't now. Live in your fantasy. Again, you aren't worth spending the least bit of time reiterating anything with.
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Re: Obama Frees Five Top Terrorists From Gitmo!
Posted by Olog-hai* on Thu Jun 5 15:15:24 2014, in response to Re: Palovar Frees Epsilon From Drasey Prison!, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Jun 5 09:51:00 2014.* fiogf49gjkf0d He claims to be in earnest and not joking, on this post. In which case, maybe we're witnessing a nervous breakdown in slow motion?
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Re: Obama Frees Five Top Terrorists From Gitmo!
Posted by GP38/R42 Chris* on Thu Jun 5 15:18:24 2014, in response to Re: Obama Frees Five Top Terrorists From Gitmo!, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Jun 5 15:15:24 2014.* fiogf49gjkf0d I'll take your word for it, his posts are way too long when he goes into that italicized sentence by sentence OCD rants. I don't get past the first line of posts like that.
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Re: Lbh obgurerq gb qrpbqr guvf? Lbh unir ab yvsr.
Posted by Nilet* on Fri Jun 6 08:02:54 2014, in response to Re: Obama Frees Five Top Terrorists From Gitmo!, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Jun 5 15:18:24 2014.* fiogf49gjkf0d I'll take your word for it, his posts are way too long when he goes into that italicized sentence by sentence OCD rants. What, like here? I don't get past the first line of posts like that. Ah, so that explains why you can't manage a coherent response. You know, if you consider it "OCD" to listen to more than the first sentence anyone says, that could explain why you're such an ignorant putz.
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Re: OTChat Frees Five Top Trolls From Zoo!
Posted by Nilet* on Fri Jun 6 08:02:56 2014, in response to Re: Obama Frees Five Top Terrorists From Gitmo!, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Jun 5 15:15:24 2014.* fiogf49gjkf0d Your second sentence is completely unrelated to the first. More like, you're witnessing people coming to stare at you and you have yet to realise that you're a zoo exhibit.
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Re: Palovar Frees Epsilon From Drasey Prison!
Posted by Nilet* on Fri Jun 6 08:03:05 2014, in response to Re: Palovar Frees Epsilon From Drasey Prison!, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Jun 5 09:51:00 2014.* fiogf49gjkf0d Which is why you devote so much time to me. It's like you have a thing for being pwned. And you can't "reiterate" what you never said in the first place. You may have noticed that my post proving each name was valid is followed by this conspicuous statement: (There are no responses to this message.) You had nothing to prove me wrong then and you have nothing to prove me wrong now. And the fact that you even care proves that you take me seriously so don't bother trying to claim otherwise— the more you whine about it, the more you prove it.
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Re: Obama Frees Five Prisoners From Gitmo!
Posted by Terrapin Station* on Fri Jun 6 12:43:48 2014, in response to Re: Obama Frees Five Prisoners From Gitmo!, posted by Nilet on Tue Jun 3 21:54:48 2014.* fiogf49gjkf0d No, in this case it is not.
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Re: Obama Frees Five Prisoners From Gitmo!
Posted by Nilet* on Fri Jun 6 13:24:02 2014, in response to Re: Obama Frees Five Prisoners From Gitmo!, posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Jun 6 12:43:48 2014.* fiogf49gjkf0d I pointed out that the government's declaration that it can lock up anyone forever for no reason is a bad thing. You stated that you disagreed that this is a bad thing, which implies you believe that it is a good thing. That's how logic works.
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Re: Obama Frees Five Top Terrorists From Gitmo!
Posted by Mitch45* on Fri Jun 6 13:46:08 2014, in response to Obama Frees Five Top Terrorists From Gitmo!, posted by bklynsubwaybob on Sun Jun 1 20:12:49 2014.* fiogf49gjkf0d The United States has just experienced its first Gilad Shalit moment. It won't be the last.
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Re: Obama Frees Five Prisoners From Gitmo!
Posted by TerrApin Station* on Fri Jun 6 17:45:52 2014, in response to Re: Obama Frees Five Prisoners From Gitmo!, posted by Nilet on Fri Jun 6 13:24:02 2014.* fiogf49gjkf0d No...... I obviously only disagreed with the points that you made that were counter the points I made in the previous posts.
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Re: Obama Frees Five Prisoners From Gitmo!
Posted by Nilet* on Fri Jun 6 18:36:57 2014, in response to Re: Obama Frees Five Prisoners From Gitmo!, posted by TerrApin Station on Fri Jun 6 17:45:52 2014.* fiogf49gjkf0d Then I'll ask again. Do you believe the government should be allowed to lock up anyone for any reason forever without having to explain themselves?
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Re: Obama Frees Five Prisoners From Gitmo!
Posted by TerrApin Station* on Fri Jun 6 19:55:27 2014, in response to Re: Obama Frees Five Prisoners From Gitmo!, posted by Nilet on Fri Jun 6 18:36:57 2014.* fiogf49gjkf0d I think the answer is obvious from my previous response.
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Re: Obama Frees Five Prisoners From Gitmo!
Posted by Nilet* on Fri Jun 6 19:59:09 2014, in response to Re: Obama Frees Five Prisoners From Gitmo!, posted by TerrApin Station on Fri Jun 6 19:55:27 2014.* fiogf49gjkf0d Good. So do you support the immediate closure of Guantanamo (and other concentration camps)? The cessation of mass spying? The repeal of the Patriot Act, NDAA, and Authorisation for Use of Military Force? A massive investigation of the Bush and Obama regimes with plenty of special prosecutors to go around?
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Obama Frees Five Top Terrorists From Gitmo; Taliban Threatens More Kidnappings
Posted by Olog-hai* on Sun Jun 8 02:43:45 2014, in response to Re: Obama Frees Five Top Terrorists From Gitmo!, posted by Mitch45 on Fri Jun 6 13:46:08 2014.* fiogf49gjkf0d Not sure if you know how right you are, but the Taliban just confirmed it for you. Time Taliban Commander: More Kidnappings to Come After Bergdahl Deal Aryn Baker June 5, 2014 A Taliban commander close to the negotiations over the release of U.S. Army Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl told TIME Thursday that the deal made to secure Bergdahl’s release has made it more appealing for fighters to capture American soldiers and other high-value targets. “It’s better to kidnap one person like Bergdahl than kidnapping hundreds of useless people,” the commander said, speaking by telephone on condition of anonymity because he is not authorized to speak to the media. “It has encouraged our people. Now everybody will work hard to capture such an important bird.” The commander has been known to TIME for several years and has consistently supplied reliable information about Bergdahl’s captivity. The U.S. agreed on May 31 to exchange five Taliban commanders from Guantanamo Bay, Cuba for Bergdahl, America’s only living prisoner of war. Following the deal, the outpouring of relief by those who had long lobbied to “Bring Bowe Home” was soon eclipsed by accusations and recriminations as Republican lawmakers accused the administration of making a dangerous precedent. “What does this tell terrorists?” Republican Senator Ted Cruz said on ABC’s This Week the day after Bergdahl’s release. “That if you capture a U.S. soldier, you can trade that soldier for five terrorist prisoners?” With reporting by Mushtaq Yusufzai / Peshawar
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Re: Obama Frees Five Top Terrorists From Gitmo; Taliban Threatens More Kidnappings
Posted by mqones* on Sun Jun 8 04:08:52 2014, in response to Obama Frees Five Top Terrorists From Gitmo; Taliban Threatens More Kidnappings, posted by Olog-hai on Sun Jun 8 02:43:45 2014.* fiogf49gjkf0d What comes around goes around. During the Soviet-Afghan War in the 1980's, CIA and special forces agents equipped the muhajeen with stinger missiles to down the Soviet hind attack helicopters and endorsed the opium trade to keep the Russian soldiers drugged up, taking a hint from the mistakes made in Vietnam. As far as I am concerned the US military created their own mess. Kind of ridiculous what some are telling us in the Pentagon and Congress. Lets leave our US soldier there for the sake of five suspected yet incapacitated terrorists. (Deserter or not, IF this is true) What ever happened to the motto that 'We will never leave our soldier behind?' The DoD made their desision. I would imagine that defense head Rumsfeld would know what he is doing with this and why, as well as the risks. Will these terrorists released act in a state of vengeance and promote terrorist attacks? We will see as it was discovered that Al Quada is trying to recruit persons from our own soil. Its FUBAR all around. My two cents. Whatever I have my own problems...
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Re: Obama Frees Five Top Terrorists From Gitmo; Taliban Threatens More Kidnappings
Posted by Mitch45* on Sun Jun 8 06:03:13 2014, in response to Obama Frees Five Top Terrorists From Gitmo; Taliban Threatens More Kidnappings, posted by Olog-hai on Sun Jun 8 02:43:45 2014.* fiogf49gjkf0d Of course I'm right. Anyone who has followed the doings in the Middle East saw this coming a mile away. The only difference between the Shalit deal and this deal was the # of prisoners released. The next time, the demand will be for 100. Wait and see. Arabs understand and respect one thing - force. Willingness to talk, negotiate, et al, is seen as weakness to be exploited. Its no coincidence that Israel is at its most secure when it strikes back at terrorists hardest and doesn't listen to shit. Every concession, every withdrawal has been met with more violence. There was only one exception to this - when Israel withdrew from the Sinai as part of the 1979 Camp David Accords with Egypt, that did result in peace. Sadat, in the end, was an honorable man, and for that he paid with his life. If I was in charge (and Thank God I'm not), this is what I would do the next time an American soldier is kidnapped, I put cameras down in Gitmo, round up 100 prisoners and surround them with soliders holding M-16's, and make the following announcement: You have 24 hours to release the soldier. Every minute over 24 hours will result in another prisoner being shot in the head at close range, on live television. You'll see the soldier being released in short order. But no - the United States has to remain civilized in the face of barbarism and adhere to the rules of war in the face of lawlessness.
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Re: Obama Frees Five Top Terrorists From Gitmo; Taliban Threatens More Kidnappings
Posted by Dave* on Sun Jun 8 07:31:26 2014, in response to Re: Obama Frees Five Top Terrorists From Gitmo; Taliban Threatens More Kidnappings, posted by Mitch45 on Sun Jun 8 06:03:13 2014.* fiogf49gjkf0d Arabs understand and respect one thing - force. It was reputedly once said to Golda Meir by an Arab leader: "If you kiss us we will kill you; if you kill us we will kiss you."
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