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Re: Obama Frees Five Top Terrorists From Gitmo!
Posted by Elkeeper* on Tue Jun 3 21:57:57 2014, in response to Re: Obama Frees Five Top Terrorists From Gitmo!, posted by Fred G on Tue Jun 3 20:53:38 2014.* fiogf49gjkf0d Fred, when he disappeared, the Army investigated the incident. I'm sure that they knew almost the entire story behind his desertion, way before this so-called prisoner swap. The fact remains that we gave up FIVE top terrorists for one disillusioned deserter. Reluctantly, I gonna have to side with those who say we should have left him over there!
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Re: Obama Frees Five Top Terrorists From Gitmo!
Posted by Olog-hai* on Tue Jun 3 21:59:22 2014, in response to Re: Obama Frees Five Prisoners From Gitmo!, posted by Nilet on Tue Jun 3 21:55:20 2014.* fiogf49gjkf0d the US appears to have no evidence that they were actually terrorists or that they ever did anything wrong Bullshit . . . read it and weep.
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Re: Obama Frees Five Random Dudes From Gitmo!
Posted by Nilet* on Tue Jun 3 21:59:31 2014, in response to Re: Obama Frees Five Top Terrorists From Gitmo!, posted by Elkeeper on Tue Jun 3 21:57:57 2014.* fiogf49gjkf0d Do you actually know he's a deserter? Because there's no way these were "top terrorists."
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Re: Obama Frees Five Top Terrorists From Gitmo!
Posted by Fred G* on Tue Jun 3 22:02:29 2014, in response to Re: Obama Frees Five Top Terrorists From Gitmo!, posted by Elkeeper on Tue Jun 3 21:57:57 2014.* fiogf49gjkf0d If they were such 'top terrorists' then why were they still just hanging around? I still don't think we should leave any of our military personnel behind. your pal, Fred
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Re: Obama Grudingly Frees Five Innocent From Gitmo; Hundreds More Remain
Posted by Nilet* on Tue Jun 3 22:07:10 2014, in response to Re: Obama Frees Five Top Terrorists From Gitmo!, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jun 3 21:59:22 2014.* fiogf49gjkf0d An article in a right-wing rag proves crimes now? Last time I checked, a trial was required. There wasn't one; the US clearly doesn't have enough evidence for an indictment let alone a conviction.
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Re: Obama Frees Five Random Dudes From Gitmo!
Posted by Elkeeper* on Tue Jun 3 22:23:08 2014, in response to Re: Obama Frees Five Random Dudes From Gitmo!, posted by Nilet on Tue Jun 3 21:59:31 2014.* fiogf49gjkf0d You don't go to the "Hotel Guantanamo", unless you are dangerous!
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Re: Obama Frees Five Random Dudes From Gitmo!
Posted by Elkeeper* on Tue Jun 3 22:23:23 2014, in response to Re: Obama Frees Five Random Dudes From Gitmo!, posted by Nilet on Tue Jun 3 21:59:31 2014.* fiogf49gjkf0d You don't go to the "Hotel Guantanamo", unless you are dangerous!
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Re: Obama Frees Five Top Terrorists From Gitmo!
Posted by Olog-hai* on Tue Jun 3 22:59:43 2014, in response to Re: Obama Grudingly Frees Five Innocent From Gitmo; Hundreds More Remain, posted by Nilet on Tue Jun 3 22:07:10 2014.* fiogf49gjkf0d An article in a right-wing rag proves crimes now? LOL! The Daily Therion is as left-wing as they come. Or maybe not from your POV, because they aren't to the left of Obama this time around. Seriously, what's your Stormfront handle? I'm surprised you haven't thrown the acronym "ZOG" around yet.
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Re: Obama Grudingly Frees Five Innocent From Gitmo; Hundreds More Remain
Posted by Train Dude* on Tue Jun 3 23:02:36 2014, in response to Re: Obama Grudingly Frees Five Innocent From Gitmo; Hundreds More Remain, posted by Nilet on Tue Jun 3 22:07:10 2014.* fiogf49gjkf0d Geez guy, you are not getting the latest word from you high command. Defections are running high in the ranks of the liberal komeraden. Even Lefty Diane Feinstein has left the tent.
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Re: Obama Frees Five Top Terrorists From Gitmo!
Posted by Olog-hai* on Tue Jun 3 23:13:23 2014, in response to Re: Obama Grudingly Frees Five Innocent From Gitmo; Hundreds More Remain, posted by Train Dude on Tue Jun 3 23:02:36 2014.* fiogf49gjkf0d Defections are running high in the ranks of the liberal kameraden. Even Lefty Diane Feinstein has left the tent They're all suddenly "moderate to far-right" like Obama.
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Re: Obama Grudingly Frees Five Innocent From Gitmo; Hundreds More Remain
Posted by Fred G* on Tue Jun 3 23:21:54 2014, in response to Re: Obama Grudingly Frees Five Innocent From Gitmo; Hundreds More Remain, posted by Train Dude on Tue Jun 3 23:02:36 2014.* fiogf49gjkf0d And earlier this year, conservatives wanted him released 9/10 sure this could be a flip flop :) He wasn't a bum then I guess. I have a feeling that if Obama left him there to rot, he would have been attacked for not supporting the military. your pal, Fred
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Re: Obama Grudingly Frees Five Innocent From Gitmo; Hundreds More Remain
Posted by Train Dude* on Tue Jun 3 23:35:35 2014, in response to Re: Obama Grudingly Frees Five Innocent From Gitmo; Hundreds More Remain, posted by Fred G on Tue Jun 3 23:21:54 2014.* fiogf49gjkf0d Originally, I was personally pleased that he Bergdahl was freed. Of course, that was before I knew of the ramifications of the trade and the illegality of what obama did. I also was not aware that he might have been a deserter. Certainly, as more details emerge, it seems that he faces the prospects of going from one captivity to an even longer one if convicted. Previously you raised the issue of Reagan negotiating with terrorists. Of course this was not quite a parallel cars but the left drove iran contra into a huge scandal. It's pretty clear that this President has circumvented if not broken the law to make this trade. Worse yet, he appears to have made a poor trade - another foreign policy blunder for the gang that can't shoot straight. Certainly adding the letters POW to the growing list alphabet scandals plaguing the obama amateur hour. DOJ IRS VA ACA just to mention a few
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Re: Obama Grudingly Frees Five Innocent From Gitmo; Hundreds More Remain
Posted by Fred G* on Tue Jun 3 23:39:53 2014, in response to Re: Obama Grudingly Frees Five Innocent From Gitmo; Hundreds More Remain, posted by Train Dude on Tue Jun 3 23:35:35 2014.* fiogf49gjkf0d Krauthammer thinks it's within the President's purview and not illegal. I agree that on paper it sounded good but even if the guy's a bum, it's more important not to leave one out there. your pal, Fred
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Re: Obama Grudingly Frees Five Innocent From Gitmo; Hundreds More Remain
Posted by Fred G* on Tue Jun 3 23:56:22 2014, in response to Re: Obama Grudingly Frees Five Innocent From Gitmo; Hundreds More Remain, posted by Train Dude on Tue Jun 3 23:35:35 2014.* fiogf49gjkf0d It also looks like Obama discussed the exchange with some in Congress your pal, Fred
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Re: Obama Frees Five Top Terrorists From Gitmo!
Posted by Olog-hai* on Tue Jun 3 23:59:53 2014, in response to Re: Obama Grudingly Frees Five Innocent From Gitmo; Hundreds More Remain, posted by Train Dude on Tue Jun 3 23:35:35 2014.* fiogf49gjkf0d They trying the "But Reagan blah blah" stuff? Liberals admitting that what they (often falsely) cite as bad precedent is OK when liberal presidents actually do it? Old washed-up false tactic.
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Re: Obama Grudingly Frees Five Innocent From Gitmo; Hundreds More Remain
Posted by SelkirkTMO* on Wed Jun 4 00:03:52 2014, in response to Re: Obama Grudingly Frees Five Innocent From Gitmo; Hundreds More Remain, posted by Fred G on Tue Jun 3 23:56:22 2014.* fiogf49gjkf0d Maybe Darrell Issa can open up an inquisition as to why Boehner never notified him? :)
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Re: Obama Frees Five Top Terrorists From Gitmo!
Posted by SelkirkTMO* on Wed Jun 4 00:08:39 2014, in response to Re: Obama Frees Five Top Terrorists From Gitmo!, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jun 3 23:59:53 2014.* fiogf49gjkf0d Maybe they're trying "the President did this without authorization or discussion with congress" when that was actually done three years ago and a settled issue then until the "repeal Obamacare" thing collapsed? Conservatives ... always shooting off their own feet and then complaining about having to go to the hospital. :)
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Re: Obama Frees Five Innocent People From Gitmo!
Posted by Nilet* on Wed Jun 4 00:18:40 2014, in response to Re: Obama Frees Five Top Terrorists From Gitmo!, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jun 3 23:13:23 2014.* fiogf49gjkf0d See, I can do obnoxious iframes too. And if you don't knock it off, I'll do recursive iframes. By the way, people who claim Reagan was liberal should be wary about screaming that other people are "far left." Tell you what, you can have two obnoxious iframes for the price of one! :)
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Re: Obama Frees Five Innocent People From Gitmo!
Posted by Nilet* on Wed Jun 4 00:19:04 2014, in response to Re: Obama Frees Five Top Terrorists From Gitmo!, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jun 3 22:59:43 2014.* fiogf49gjkf0d LOL! The Daily Therion is as left-wing as they come. OK, back to basics. Define "liberal." Define "conservative." Or shut up. You may have intended to link to The Daily Therion, but in actuality, you linked to the dailybeast.com which is clearly right of center. If you had the slightest clue what you were talking about, you would notice this prominently-linked article which reads like straight-up far-right propaganda. Or maybe not from your POV, because they aren't to the left of Obama this time around. That's as maybe. Since something like 65% of the country is to the left of Obama, it would hardly surprise me if they are. Doesn't make them left of the center though. Seriously, what's your Stormfront handle? Objection! Assumes facts not in evidence! I'm surprised you haven't thrown the acronym "ZOG" around yet. What does "ZOG" mean?
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Re: Obama Frees Five Random Dudes From Gitmo!
Posted by Nilet* on Wed Jun 4 00:19:11 2014, in response to Re: Obama Frees Five Random Dudes From Gitmo!, posted by Elkeeper on Tue Jun 3 22:23:08 2014.* fiogf49gjkf0d So you believe the government has the right to declare anybody on the planet to be "dangerous" and lock them up without question? Because the US itself has confirmed that a majority of the people imprisoned in Guantanamo are just random dudes who never did anything wrong.
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Re: Obama Frees Five Top Terrorists From Gitmo!
Posted by Olog-hai* on Wed Jun 4 01:01:23 2014, in response to Re: Obama Frees Five Random Dudes From Gitmo!, posted by Elkeeper on Tue Jun 3 22:23:23 2014.* fiogf49gjkf0d The only way he'd realize that is if he got locked up there with them.
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Re: Romney Frees Five Top Beer Brands From Poland!
Posted by Nilet* on Wed Jun 4 01:21:22 2014, in response to Re: Obama Frees Five Top Terrorists From Gitmo!, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jun 4 01:01:23 2014.* fiogf49gjkf0d So the only way I'd realise that no one is wrongfully imprisoned is if I were wrongfully imprisoned? Coherence is not your strong suit, I guess.
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Re: Romney Frees Five Top Beer Brands From Poland!
Posted by SelkirkTMO* on Wed Jun 4 01:27:02 2014, in response to Re: Romney Frees Five Top Beer Brands From Poland!, posted by Nilet on Wed Jun 4 01:21:22 2014.* fiogf49gjkf0d Don't mind Olog ... he keeps dismissing the dialog every time it pops up instead of choosing. :)
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Re: Obama Grudingly Frees Five Innocent From Gitmo; Hundreds More Remain
Posted by Fred G* on Wed Jun 4 03:34:43 2014, in response to Re: Obama Grudingly Frees Five Innocent From Gitmo; Hundreds More Remain, posted by Train Dude on Tue Jun 3 23:35:35 2014.* fiogf49gjkf0d While we're in alphabet soup here's another one: LOL Your pal, Fred
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Re: Obama Grudingly Frees Five Innocent From Gitmo; Hundreds More Remain
Posted by SelkirkTMO* on Wed Jun 4 03:52:46 2014, in response to Re: Obama Grudingly Frees Five Innocent From Gitmo; Hundreds More Remain, posted by Fred G on Wed Jun 4 03:34:43 2014.* fiogf49gjkf0d It's amusing how desperately they're trying to make ANYTHING stick to the wall ... may I suggest a pair of socks maybe? ;)
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Re: Obama Frees Five Top Terrorists From Gitmo!
Posted by Fred G* on Wed Jun 4 07:46:46 2014, in response to Re: Obama Frees Five Top Terrorists From Gitmo!, posted by Elkeeper on Tue Jun 3 21:57:57 2014.* fiogf49gjkf0d The Pentagon says the investigation is sealed and will require FOI to access. How do you know exactly what happened? your pal, Fred
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Re: Obama Frees Five Top Terrorists From Gitmo!
Posted by Fred G* on Wed Jun 4 07:53:38 2014, in response to Re: Obama Frees Five Top Terrorists From Gitmo!, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jun 3 23:59:53 2014.* fiogf49gjkf0d If you had any reading comprehension, you'd realize that I pointed Reagan out to counter the bullshit assertion that Obama is the first US President to negotiate with terrorists. But what do I expect from someone that Chicago Motorman and OBS consider highly intelligent? Da Club your pal, Fred
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Re: Obama Frees Five Prisoners From Gitmo!
Posted by GP38/R42 Chris* on Wed Jun 4 09:01:27 2014, in response to Re: Obama Frees Five Prisoners From Gitmo!, posted by Nilet on Tue Jun 3 21:55:00 2014.* fiogf49gjkf0d Not wanting to waste time debating with a sad sack that is hopeless does not imply said sadsack as yourself is correct. You can think all you want. As I said, I am not wasting my time on you. I already said against my better judgement to even give you time of day responding at all. It appears you still think it's just about a bacon cheeseburger or changing planes at an airport....and all the other games you play. Have a nice life.
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Re: Obama Grudingly Frees Five Innocent From Gitmo; Hundreds More Remain
Posted by Train Dude* on Wed Jun 4 09:19:09 2014, in response to Re: Obama Grudingly Frees Five Innocent From Gitmo; Hundreds More Remain, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Jun 4 00:03:52 2014.* fiogf49gjkf0d It certainly sounds like Diane Feinstein will be holding the inquisition as to why the president never consulted her.
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Re: Obama Frees Five Prisoners From Gitmo!
Posted by Nilet* on Wed Jun 4 09:27:54 2014, in response to Re: Obama Frees Five Prisoners From Gitmo!, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Jun 4 09:01:27 2014.* fiogf49gjkf0d As I said, I am not wasting my time on you. Which is why you're responding to tell me that you won't respond. And as long as you're responding, you're making a pathetic attempt to recover what little dignity you can after I tore your incoherent arguments to shreds and left you standing there in your racist authoritarian pants. It appears you still think it's just about a bacon cheeseburger or changing planes at an airport... I specifically stated that it had nothing to do with changing planes in my previous post. Let me guess, you couldn't be bothered to read it before responding? Specifically, I stated this: No, it's about the fact that the US government claims that it has the right to arrest/kidnap anyone from anywhere on the planet, and lock them up forever without any oversight and without offering them any recourse. You, me, your kids, politicians who oppose them— anyone. This is self-evidently wrong and I can't fathom how you could possibly be trying to justify it. The guy who was changing planes is one example of the United States invoking this policy to disastrous effect, included for the sake of putting a human face on the problem. Incidentally, you claimed his/their imprisonment was "about what they have done, or who they are involved with." I asked you: "What did he do and who was he involved with? And how did it justify him being imprisoned and tortured?" Obviously, you can't answer my questions, so you instinctively shut down your brain so that you don't accidentally realise that I'm right, a technique that Blair called crimestop. You poor soul.
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Re: Obama Frees Five Top Terrorists From Gitmo!
Posted by Olog-hai* on Wed Jun 4 09:34:06 2014, in response to Re: Obama Frees Five Prisoners From Gitmo!, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Jun 4 09:01:27 2014.* fiogf49gjkf0d According to his logic, all trolls are correct.
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Re: Obama Frees Five Top Terrorists From Gitmo!
Posted by GP38/R42 Chris* on Wed Jun 4 09:36:07 2014, in response to Re: Obama Frees Five Top Terrorists From Gitmo!, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jun 4 09:34:06 2014.* fiogf49gjkf0d Yes. And I find it hard to believe that he really doesn't believe he's a troll. .
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Re: Obama Frees Five Top Terrorists From Gitmo!
Posted by Train Dude* on Wed Jun 4 09:40:20 2014, in response to Re: Obama Frees Five Top Terrorists From Gitmo!, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Jun 4 09:36:07 2014.* fiogf49gjkf0d Oh he knows what he is. He's just looking at himself in one of those carnival mirrors and he thinks he's bigger than he really is.
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Re: Obama Frees Five Top Terrorists From Gitmo!
Posted by Olog-hai* on Wed Jun 4 09:44:23 2014, in response to Re: Obama Grudingly Frees Five Innocent From Gitmo; Hundreds More Remain, posted by Train Dude on Wed Jun 4 09:19:09 2014.* fiogf49gjkf0d Not even the liberal BBC can spin this positively, much as they try. Bowe Bergdahl exchange: Freed Taliban five to choose war or peace By Dawood Azami \| BBC World Service 2 June 2014 \| Last updated at 13:56 ET The five men freed in exchange for US soldier Bowe Bergdahl were the highest-ranking Taliban members held at Guantanamo and have almost mythical status among many of the group's fighters. Some 13 years after they were jailed, Mohammad Fazl, Khairullah Khairkhwa, Abdul Haq Wasiq, Mullah Norullah Noori and Mohammad Nabi Omari still command significant influence within the insurgency — Taliban leader Mullah Omar has described them as "senior leaders" whose release is a "great victory". What the men do now could have a meaningful impact on whether there is more war — or peace — in Afghanistan. Scenario one: Moves towards peace Critics in the US and Afghanistan may be unhappy, but the first US-Taliban prisoner exchange has built trust between the two sides and could lead to possible new breakthroughs with the militants. Initial talks about the exchange began in 2010, a few months after Bowe Bergdahl was captured in eastern Afghanistan. But the talks broke down many times because of a number of hurdles, including the 2013 closure of the Taliban political office in Qatar under pressure from the Afghan government which was unhappy at the militants flying their flag from the building. About six months ago, talks between the US and Taliban restarted via the Qataris, who sent a delegation to Guantanamo to receive the Taliban inmates. At the same time, the Taliban and the US had agreed a one-day ceasefire in Ali Sher district of Khost province where an American military helicopter landed and the Taliban handed over Sgt Bergdahl. The transfer will have built confidence between the Taliban and the US. Further moves would increase goodwill on both sides and could eventually lead to peace talks that might result in a ceasefire. Some, if not all, of the men released had access to news in the detention facility, but they will not be fully aware of all the different interest groups that have emerged within the Taliban since the fall of the regime in 2001. These days there are two main narratives in the insurgency. One says that it is a matter of time before they take the whole of Afghanistan by force. Its proponents are emboldened by the US military withdrawal and see it as defeat for NATO at their hands. The other narrative says continued American engagement and an increasingly capable Afghan military will make it hard — if not impossible — to win by force. This group is interested in a political settlement to end further chaos and bloodshed. That is why each side will be keen to have the ears of the men just released. Other parties, including the Afghan government and Pakistan, will also try to win over the "newcomers". Of course, any meaningful peace process will depend on a number of factors, including the policy of a new Afghan president scheduled to take office in August. It's too early to tell whether the new government in Kabul will insist on fighting or commit itself to talks with the Taliban aimed at ending in a political settlement. The number of troops the US decides to keep in Afghanistan is also a factor. The Taliban's main demand has been a full and immediate withdrawal of all foreign forces, but if a proposed security deal made clear that would happen in 2016 this could be an incentive to join a political process. Scenario two: More war The five Taliban leaders released are both trusted and respected by the insurgents. Some of them still command major fighting fronts. The Taliban groups fighting in their name have remained intact, even after the men's years in captivity at Guantanamo. According to US officials, the government of Qatar has guaranteed that the men will not pose a risk to US forces in the future. They are also banned from leaving the country for at least a year. US and Qatari officials have not detailed exactly what security guarantees had been put in place by Qatar. But while they are in Qatar, the men are able to meet other members of the Taliban office, who gave them a very warm welcome on their arrival. If they want to rejoin the insurgency, they can have a remote but active influence on fighting by sending messages to field commanders and other Taliban leaders by telephone, letters and word of mouth. If they do rejoin the fighting, that will not only embolden and invigorate the existing Taliban fighters, but could well serve to recruit others. Right now, it is not known what their personal priorities are. As a Taliban official said, for the time being "they will wait for the instruction of the leadership". The timing of the release is also important. In recent months, major disagreements have emerged at the top of the Taliban leadership. The split between Mullah Abdul Qayum Zakir and Mullah Akhtar Muhammad Mansoor — the two deputies of Mullah Omar — resulted in the resignation last month of Mullah Zakir, who was also the Taliban supreme military commander. The appearance of old leaders on the scene will serve as a unifying force for Taliban members, especially those who are "in the field". Who are the Guantanamo detainees? Mohammad Fazl served as the Taliban's deputy defense minister during America's military campaign in 2001. Accused of possible war crimes, including the murder of thousands of Shia Muslims and others including Pashtuns and Tajiks. Khairullah Khairkhwa was a senior Taliban official serving as interior minister and governor of Herat, Afghanistan's third largest city. Abdul Haq Wasiq was the Taliban's deputy minister of intelligence. Said to have been central in forming alliances with other Islamist groups. Mullah Norullah Noori was a senior Taliban military commander and a governor. Also accused of being involved in the mass killings of Shia Muslims and others. Mohammad Nabi Omari: Alleged to have been involved in attacks against US and coalition forces, with close links to the Haqqani network.
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Re: Jacob Seizes Five Top Stories From Finland!
Posted by Nilet* on Wed Jun 4 10:05:24 2014, in response to Re: Obama Frees Five Top Terrorists From Gitmo!, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jun 4 09:34:06 2014.* fiogf49gjkf0d
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Re: Kadafa Frees Five Richest Prisoners From UPC-Kiladar!
Posted by Nilet* on Wed Jun 4 10:05:30 2014, in response to Re: Obama Frees Five Top Terrorists From Gitmo!, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Jun 4 09:36:07 2014.* fiogf49gjkf0d You poor soul.
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Re: Richard Frees Five Slow Bats From Cavern!
Posted by Nilet* on Wed Jun 4 10:05:34 2014, in response to Re: Obama Frees Five Top Terrorists From Gitmo!, posted by Train Dude on Wed Jun 4 09:40:20 2014.* fiogf49gjkf0d Now you're trolling too?
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Re: Obama Frees Five Innocent People From Gitmo!
Posted by bingbong* on Wed Jun 4 10:07:55 2014, in response to Re: Obama Frees Five Innocent People From Gitmo!, posted by Nilet on Wed Jun 4 00:19:04 2014.* fiogf49gjkf0d Would't doubt it's Olog's Stormfront handle.
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Re: Richard Branson Frees Five Women From His Basement!
Posted by Nilet* on Wed Jun 4 10:13:15 2014, in response to Re: Obama Frees Five Top Terrorists From Gitmo!, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jun 4 09:44:23 2014.* fiogf49gjkf0d Who are the Guantanamo detainees? Mohammad Fazl served as the Taliban's deputy defense minister during America's military campaign in 2001. Accused of possible war crimes, including the murder of thousands of Shia Muslims and others including Pashtuns and Tajiks. Khairullah Khairkhwa was a senior Taliban official serving as interior minister and governor of Herat, Afghanistan's third largest city. Abdul Haq Wasiq was the Taliban's deputy minister of intelligence. Said to have been central in forming alliances with other Islamist groups. Mullah Norullah Noori was a senior Taliban military commander and a governor. Also accused of being involved in the mass killings of Shia Muslims and others. Olog-Hai: Was a senior Al Qaeda member who allegedly bankrolled the September 11th attacks. I admit it. All five are dangerous and need to be locked away forever. Since we're in agreement, the argument is now over.
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Re: Obama Frees Five Innocent People From Gitmo!
Posted by Nilet* on Wed Jun 4 10:22:44 2014, in response to Re: Obama Frees Five Innocent People From Gitmo!, posted by bingbong on Wed Jun 4 10:07:55 2014.* fiogf49gjkf0d He knew about Stormfront, which is not exactly a prominent site; I only knew about it incidentally through a brief glance at Racists Say The Darndest Things and I doubt Olog would hang out there. Plus, he constantly declares that I'm on Stormfront, which, given Olog's massive habit of projection, means that he's probably on Stormfront. And he presumably knows what "ZOG" means, which I'm guessing is a Stormfront-ism. Do you know what it means? I just took a shower and I don't want to get all dirty again by googling it.
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Re: Richard Branson Frees Five Women From His Basement!
Posted by Dave* on Wed Jun 4 10:36:50 2014, in response to Re: Richard Branson Frees Five Women From His Basement!, posted by Nilet on Wed Jun 4 10:13:15 2014.* fiogf49gjkf0d My, talk about selectively editing the facts: Mohammad Fazl served as the Taliban's deputy defense minister during America's military campaign in 2001. Accused of possible war crimes, including the murder of thousands of Shia Muslims and others including Pashtuns and Tajiks. Mullah Mohammad Fazl (Taliban army chief of staff): Fazl is “wanted by the UN for possible war crimes including the murder of thousands of Shiites.” Fazl “was associated with terrorist groups currently opposing U.S. and Coalition forces including al Qaeda, Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan (IMU), Hezb-e-Islami Gulbuddin (HIG), and an Anti-Coalition Militia group known as Harakat-i-Inqilab-i-Islami.” In addition to being one of the Taliban’s most experienced military commanders, Fazl worked closely with a top al Qaeda commander named Abdul Hadi al Iraqi, who headed al Qaeda’s main fighting unit in Afghanistan prior to 9/11 and is currently detained at Guantanamo. Mullah Norullah Noori was a senior Taliban military commander and a governor. Also accused of being involved in the mass killings of Shia Muslims and others. Mullah Norullah Noori (senior Taliban military commander): Like Fazl, Noori is “wanted by the United Nations (UN) for possible war crimes including the murder of thousands of Shiite Muslims.” Beginning in the mid-1990s, Noori “fought alongside al Qaeda as a Taliban military general, against the Northern alliance.” He continued to work closely with al Qaeda in the years that followed. Abdul Haq Wasiq was the Taliban's deputy minister of intelligence. Said to have been central in forming alliances with other Islamist groups. Abdul Haq Wasiq (Taliban deputy minister of intelligence): Wasiq arranged for al Qaeda members to provide crucial intelligence training prior to 9/11. The training was headed by Hamza Zubayr, an al Qaeda instructor who was killed during the same September 2002 raid that netted Ramzi Binalshibh, the point man for the 9/11 operation. Wasiq “was central to the Taliban's efforts to form alliances with other Islamic fundamentalist groups to fight alongside the Taliban against U.S. and Coalition forces after the 11 September 2001 attacks,” according to a leaked JTF-GTMO threat assessment. Khairullah Khairkhwa was a senior Taliban official serving as interior minister and governor of Herat, Afghanistan's third largest city. Khairullah Khairkhwa (Taliban governor of the Herat province and former interior minister): Khairkhwa was the governor of Afghanistan’s westernmost province prior to 9/11. In that capacity, he executed sensitive missions for Mullah Omar, including helping to broker a secret deal with the Iranians. For much of the pre-9/11 period, Iran and the Taliban were bitter foes. But a Taliban delegation that included Kharikhwa helped secure Iran’s support for the Taliban’s efforts against the American-led coalition in late 2001. JTF-GTMO found that Khairkhwa was likely a major drug trafficker and deeply in bed with al Qaeda. He allegedly oversaw one of Osama bin Laden’s training facilities in Herat. Funny thing, facts.
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Re: Obama Frees Five Random Dudes From Gitmo!
Posted by Dave* on Wed Jun 4 10:40:16 2014, in response to Re: Obama Frees Five Random Dudes From Gitmo!, posted by Nilet on Tue Jun 3 21:59:31 2014.* fiogf49gjkf0d "A Pentagon investigation concluded in 2010 that Army Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl walked away from his unit, and after an initial flurry of searching the military decided not to exert extraordinary efforts to rescue him, according to a former senior defense official who was involved in the matter." But of course you know more than the Army does about this so their determination that Bergdahl was a deserter is clearly incorrect.
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Re: Obama Frees Five Top Terrorists From Gitmo!
Posted by Olog-hai* on Wed Jun 4 10:42:47 2014, in response to Re: Obama Frees Five Random Dudes From Gitmo!, posted by Dave on Wed Jun 4 10:40:16 2014.* fiogf49gjkf0d He must be happy to find a board so hard to get banned from.
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Re: Obama Frees Five Top Terrorists From Gitmo!
Posted by Dave* on Wed Jun 4 10:47:59 2014, in response to Re: Obama Frees Five Top Terrorists From Gitmo!, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jun 4 10:42:47 2014.* fiogf49gjkf0d Yessir.
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Re: Obama Frees Five Top Terrorists From Gitmo!
Posted by Olog-hai* on Wed Jun 4 10:55:31 2014, in response to Re: Richard Branson Frees Five Women From His Basement!, posted by Dave on Wed Jun 4 10:36:50 2014.* fiogf49gjkf0d He's hurting from the BBC "betraying" him and turning "far-right".
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Re: Obama Frees Five Top Terrorists From Gitmo!
Posted by Olog-hai* on Wed Jun 4 11:08:47 2014, in response to Re: Obama Frees Five Top Terrorists From Gitmo!, posted by Dave on Wed Jun 4 10:47:59 2014.* fiogf49gjkf0d Now the WH is accusing people of "swiftboating". If they fought the terrorists with the same vigor that they fight their own countrymen, then the war against Islamic terrorism would be won indeed, and Israel would not even have to worry about the US federal government backing Hamas or other devils like that.
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Re: Obama Frees Five Innocent People From Gitmo!
Posted by bingbong* on Wed Jun 4 11:13:27 2014, in response to Re: Obama Frees Five Innocent People From Gitmo!, posted by Nilet on Wed Jun 4 10:22:44 2014.* fiogf49gjkf0d Don't blame you, but no, I do not. I would never go to a place like that, even Fauxnews and some of the "lamer" RW sites serve enough malware to crash a mac. Since I do not appreciate computer crashes, I just stay away. The handle thing was a random guess more for humour than substance. Though I wouldn't doubt it based on the crickety response out of our trollier than thou Olog.
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Re: Richard Branson Frees Five Women From His Basement!
Posted by Nilet* on Wed Jun 4 11:21:23 2014, in response to Re: Richard Branson Frees Five Women From His Basement!, posted by Dave on Wed Jun 4 10:36:50 2014.* fiogf49gjkf0d You left one out: Olog-Hai: Was a senior Al Qaeda member who allegedly bankrolled the September 11th attacks. He also personally ordered the execution of ten thousand people he perceived as "liberal," spent the last ten years leading Taliban forces in Afghanistan, and pulled the trigger that destroyed the Buddha statues. He's clearly worse than any of the others, so how can you defend him?
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Re: Olog, Top Terrorist, Escaped From Gitmo!
Posted by Nilet* on Wed Jun 4 11:21:26 2014, in response to Re: Obama Frees Five Top Terrorists From Gitmo!, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jun 4 10:55:31 2014.* fiogf49gjkf0d You're not very bright, are you?
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Re: Obama Frees Five Random Dudes From Gitmo!
Posted by Nilet* on Wed Jun 4 11:21:32 2014, in response to Re: Obama Frees Five Random Dudes From Gitmo!, posted by Dave on Wed Jun 4 10:40:16 2014.* fiogf49gjkf0d "A Pentagon investigation concluded in 2010 that Army Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl walked away from his unit, and after an initial flurry of searching the military decided not to exert extraordinary efforts to rescue him, according to a former senior defense official who was involved in the matter." Source? And cut the snark. This is why everyone thinks you're an asshole.
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