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Re: It Is Now Good Friday.

Posted by streetcarman1 on Fri Apr 18 21:31:37 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Good Friday., posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Apr 18 19:19:49 2014.

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Yea....you only post shit after others have posted.....it's like your somehow are afraid of being ridiculed....it's like a phobia of sorts.

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Re: It Is Now Good Friday.

Posted by Fred G on Fri Apr 18 21:50:49 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Good Friday., posted by AlM on Fri Apr 18 19:27:11 2014.

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Oh and lower case on Olog was accidental. I'm not playing that game.


your pal,
Fred

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Re: It Is Now Good Friday.

Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Apr 18 22:36:37 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Good Friday., posted by LuchAAA on Fri Apr 18 19:54:13 2014.

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LOL! WTF is that?

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Re: It Is Now Good Friday.

Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Apr 18 22:39:30 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Good Friday., posted by streetcarman1 on Fri Apr 18 21:22:16 2014.

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It went over YOUR head, dumbass.

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Re: It Is Now Good Friday.

Posted by streetcarman1 on Sat Apr 19 00:54:13 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Good Friday., posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Apr 18 22:39:30 2014.

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"It went over YOUR head, dumbass. "

Guess you really never have anything worthwhile to say here....that's obvious.....go chase after Olog....I know you really good at that.


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Re: It Is Now Good Friday.

Posted by kew gardens teleport on Sat Apr 19 05:59:06 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Good Friday., posted by Fred G on Fri Apr 18 19:15:49 2014.

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We are all olog. We are all Chicago motorman.

Or is each of us a Gamerum?

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Re: It Is Now Good Friday.

Posted by kew gardens teleport on Sat Apr 19 06:00:59 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Good Friday., posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Apr 18 13:38:46 2014.

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The original Christians WERE Catholics, but after Martin Luther's little tantrum, they broke up into all sorts of arguing, diverging cults who all went their own way.

The entity that now calls itself the Roman Catholic Church did not exist until the Reformation either. ;-)

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Re: It Is Now Good Friday.

Posted by kew gardens teleport on Sat Apr 19 06:03:02 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Good Friday., posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Apr 18 13:29:15 2014.

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How does that differentiate it from any other diet?

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Re: It Is Now Good Friday.

Posted by kew gardens teleport on Sat Apr 19 06:03:28 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Good Friday., posted by gp38/r42 chris on Fri Apr 18 11:10:31 2014.

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Beaver burger then.

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Re: It Is Now Good Friday.

Posted by kew gardens teleport on Sat Apr 19 06:04:47 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Good Friday., posted by AlM on Fri Apr 18 10:45:50 2014.

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Also, I suspect you haven't the slightest idea (until you Google it) what "fasting" on Good Friday actually means.

I also suspect that most nominal Christians share his ignorance.

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Re: Good Friday

Posted by kew gardens teleport on Sat Apr 19 06:07:22 2014, in response to Re: Good Friday, posted by LuchAAA on Fri Apr 18 13:35:46 2014.

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Sunday Misa en Espanol

Succumbed to the distraction then? :-)

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Re: Good Friday

Posted by kew gardens teleport on Sat Apr 19 06:08:10 2014, in response to Re: Good Friday, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Fri Apr 18 11:09:36 2014.

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The Last Supper last night was actually a passover sedar.

Unless you read the Gospel according to St John.

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Re: Good Friday

Posted by kew gardens teleport on Sat Apr 19 06:15:43 2014, in response to Good Friday, posted by Mitch45 on Fri Apr 18 08:29:16 2014.

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Just do me a favor - leave the Jews out of it.

Can't. The Revised Common Lectionary insists on using the St John Passion on Good Friday, which blames "the Jews". At least it's not Matthew though (27.25 is the worst verse). If I had a clerical collar, I would stick two fingers up to the lectionary and read the Passion from Luke. I would further ignore the lectionary by getting rid of the thoroughly inappropriate reading from Isaiah 52-53.

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Re: It Is Now Good Friday.

Posted by AlM on Sat Apr 19 06:41:46 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Good Friday., posted by kew gardens teleport on Sat Apr 19 06:00:59 2014.

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Huh? Did they file new articles of incorporation or something?




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Re: Good Friday

Posted by AlM on Sat Apr 19 06:44:43 2014, in response to Re: Good Friday, posted by kew gardens teleport on Sat Apr 19 06:15:43 2014.

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At least it's not Matthew though (27.25 is the worst verse).

That was read last Sunday. :(



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Re: It Is Now Good Friday.

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sat Apr 19 06:48:32 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Good Friday., posted by kew gardens teleport on Sat Apr 19 06:04:47 2014.

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He seems to think the Catholic thing of no meet on Lent Fridays is the same as Jewish dietary restrictions ....forget he has no idea about Catholic Good Friday fasting....and that its not all Christians.
It was an epic fail

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Re: Good Friday

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sat Apr 19 06:49:11 2014, in response to Re: Good Friday, posted by kew gardens teleport on Sat Apr 19 06:08:10 2014.

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Haha....well he's the different Gospel of the four.... :)

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Re: It Is Now Good Friday.

Posted by kew gardens teleport on Sat Apr 19 06:53:45 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Good Friday., posted by AlM on Sat Apr 19 06:41:46 2014.

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They did when they set up their new hierarchy in England. The direct successor of the pre-Reformation English church is the Church of England. Sellar and Yeatman's famous assessment may have been written in jest, but it nonetheless has an element of truth to it:

"The Pope, however, refused, and seceded with all his followers from the Church of England."

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Re: Good Friday

Posted by kew gardens teleport on Sat Apr 19 06:58:39 2014, in response to Re: Good Friday, posted by AlM on Sat Apr 19 06:44:43 2014.

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"At least it's not Matthew though (27.25 is the worst verse)."

That was read last Sunday. :(


Yes. Which was why I only went to Evensong last Sunday, where we escaped with Matthew's more subtly nasty Parable of the Vineyard. The whole year of Matthew thing sucks as a lectionary concept. That the escapes from Matthaean nastiness are Johannine nastiness and obscurity scarcely encourages me to go to church. I am looking forward to Advent Sunday.

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Re: Good Friday

Posted by kew gardens teleport on Sat Apr 19 07:00:58 2014, in response to Re: Good Friday, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sat Apr 19 06:49:11 2014.

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I've actually read a book claiming that there were two different calendars in use at the time, so Passover happened twice that year, and all four gospels are inerrant! :-D

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Re: It Is Now Good Friday.

Posted by AlM on Sat Apr 19 07:36:32 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Good Friday., posted by kew gardens teleport on Sat Apr 19 06:53:45 2014.

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Ah well, you were referring to England. :)



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Re: It Is Now Good Friday.

Posted by kew gardens teleport on Sat Apr 19 08:15:47 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Good Friday., posted by AlM on Sat Apr 19 07:36:32 2014.

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And I don't remember Papal States colonists landing on Plymouth Rock... :-)

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Re: It Is Now Good Friday.

Posted by AlM on Sat Apr 19 09:56:24 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Good Friday., posted by kew gardens teleport on Sat Apr 19 08:15:47 2014.

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Hey, if any Roman Catholic priest had shown up in Massachusetts in the 17th century he would have been lucky if they had just put him on a stagecoach for New York.



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Re: It Is Now Good Friday.

Posted by Fred G on Sat Apr 19 11:14:47 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Good Friday., posted by kew gardens teleport on Sat Apr 19 08:15:47 2014.

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No but some Catholics may have landed at Dighton Rock

your pal,
Fred

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Re: It Is Now Good Friday.

Posted by Nilet on Sat Apr 19 15:23:25 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Good Friday., posted by gp38/r42 chris on Fri Apr 18 13:25:03 2014.

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He claims he eats bacon cheeseburgers twice this week already...

OHHHH! I see! You're like Terrapin— you take everything literally!

You know, if this is a common trait on SubChat, it could explain why so many people got stuck on the word "celebrate" as proof that I was antisemitic.

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Re: It Is Now Good Friday.

Posted by Nilet on Sat Apr 19 15:23:31 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Good Friday., posted by AlM on Fri Apr 18 10:45:50 2014.

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No, but the idea that Jesus somehow managed to absorb punishment "on behalf" of other people is the central premise of Christianity and I pointed out the absurdity of that too.

As for the fasting/kosher nonsense, you should try googling "Courtier's Reply" as long as you're there.

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Re: It Is Now Good Friday.

Posted by Nilet on Sat Apr 19 15:23:34 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Good Friday., posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sat Apr 19 06:48:32 2014.

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Look up "Courtier's Reply," dumbass.

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Re: It Is Now Good Friday.

Posted by AlM on Sat Apr 19 15:35:15 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Good Friday., posted by Nilet on Sat Apr 19 15:23:34 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Bad logic again.

You make a statement in bad taste related to Passover.

People criticize you as a result.

You make a statement about Good Friday that is in nowhere near as much bad taste. No one criticizes you.

People point out that you do not understand the meaning of Good Friday, and that therefore your analogy is completely off.

Your lack of expertise in the meaning of Good Friday is very relevant to the debunking of the false point you were trying to make, that you can insult Christianity on this board but not Judaism. It's very relevant that in your ignorance of Catholicism you failed to actually insult Catholicism.


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Re: It Is Now Good Friday.

Posted by Nilet on Sat Apr 19 15:44:50 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Good Friday., posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Apr 18 19:19:49 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Oh? Then calling me an "asshole" apropos of nothing is what, then?

I've never posted solely to get people riled up myself, but I do suffer from SIWOTI syndrome on occasion which is probably why I'm still trying to "debate" people like Chris who have shown themselves completely incapable of reason.

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Re: It Is Now Good Friday.

Posted by Nilet on Sat Apr 19 15:44:54 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Good Friday., posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Apr 18 22:36:37 2014.

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It's an onomatopoeia for the sound of air being released from a brake valve! :)

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Re: It Is Now Good Friday.

Posted by Nilet on Sat Apr 19 15:44:56 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Good Friday., posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Apr 18 16:46:40 2014.

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You know, we were having a perfectly lively debate until you ran off to the nutters and started complaining I'm an "asshole." Not nearly as mature as simply admitting you were wrong, but I'll take what I can get. I'll mark this down in the "win" column.

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Re: It Is Now Good Friday.

Posted by Nilet on Sat Apr 19 15:44:58 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Good Friday., posted by gp38/r42 chris on Fri Apr 18 15:20:57 2014.

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You really are obsessed over me, aren't you? What's wrong, your wife boring you now?

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Re: It Is Now Good Friday.

Posted by Nilet on Sat Apr 19 15:45:00 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Good Friday., posted by gp38/r42 chris on Fri Apr 18 11:06:33 2014.

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Who said that?

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Re: It Is Now Good Friday.

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Apr 19 15:52:35 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Good Friday., posted by Nilet on Sat Apr 19 15:44:50 2014.

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It's not apropos of nothing, it's apropos of your posts, ignorance and know-it-all attitude.

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Re: It Is Now Good Friday.

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Apr 19 15:53:53 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Good Friday., posted by Nilet on Sat Apr 19 15:44:56 2014.

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Yes, you call others immature and then you claim to be keeping score and calling your opponents "nutters."

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Re: It Is Now Good Friday.

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sat Apr 19 16:00:30 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Good Friday., posted by Nilet on Sat Apr 19 15:23:25 2014.

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I said nothing about celebrating anything.....just going by two lists were you said you were eating certain meals.

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Re: It Is Now Good Friday.

Posted by AlM on Sat Apr 19 16:10:07 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Good Friday., posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sat Apr 19 16:00:30 2014.

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To me the word "celebrate" is relevant.

This is not offensive:

"Today is Passover. I do not keep kosher. I am eating a bacon cheeseburger."

This is offensive:

"I am celebrating Passover by eating a bacon cheeseburger."



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Re: It Is Now Good Friday.

Posted by kew gardens teleport on Sat Apr 19 18:02:13 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Good Friday., posted by Nilet on Sat Apr 19 15:23:31 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
No, but the idea that Jesus somehow managed to absorb punishment "on behalf" of other people is the central premise of Christianity

So find it in the Gospel according to St Luke.

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Re: It Is Now Good Friday.

Posted by Nilet on Sat Apr 19 18:13:56 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Good Friday., posted by AlM on Sat Apr 19 15:35:15 2014.

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The point is that the claim that it's "bad taste" to make a remark about Judaism but "nowhere near as much bad taste" to make essentially the same remark about Christianity shows a double standard that the OTChat crowd doesn't seem to notice.

Your lack of expertise in the meaning of Good Friday is very relevant to the debunking of the false point you were trying to make, that you can insult Christianity on this board but not Judaism.

So Good Friday has nothing whatsoever to do with the crucifixion of Jesus? And the idea that Jesus "died for our sins" is not the premise of Christianity (not just Catholicism)?

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Re: It Is Now Good Friday.

Posted by Nilet on Sat Apr 19 18:13:57 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Good Friday., posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Apr 19 15:52:35 2014.

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I've posted reasoned arguments. You failed to come up with an equally reasonable reply, so you start whining to the nutters about my "attitude" and spewing insults.

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Re: It Is Now Good Friday.

Posted by Nilet on Sat Apr 19 18:14:00 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Good Friday., posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Apr 19 15:53:53 2014.

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It's a figure of speech, moron.

And there's nothing immature about calling nutters nutters.

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Re: It Is Now Good Friday.

Posted by Nilet on Sat Apr 19 18:19:46 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Good Friday., posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sat Apr 19 16:00:30 2014.

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I was remarking that you took my posts completely literally, and then speculating that other people might be doing the same— which AlM's response to you seems to confirm.

I never said you claimed anything about celebrating.

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Re: It Is Now Good Friday.

Posted by Nilet on Sat Apr 19 18:19:47 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Good Friday., posted by AlM on Sat Apr 19 16:10:07 2014.

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Ah, there's the problem. You took the word "celebrate" literally.

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Re: It Is Now Good Friday.

Posted by AlM on Sat Apr 19 18:47:07 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Good Friday., posted by Nilet on Sat Apr 19 18:19:47 2014.

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No. I do not believe that you celebrated Passover - that would have been taking the word literally. I am saying your use of that word in your post made the post offensive.


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Re: It Is Now Good Friday.

Posted by Nilet on Sat Apr 19 18:56:24 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Good Friday., posted by kew gardens teleport on Sat Apr 19 18:02:13 2014.

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Wait, let me make sure I'm understanding this— you're claiming that the idea of Jesus "dying for our sins" is not the central premise of Christianity?

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Re: It Is Now Good Friday.

Posted by Nilet on Sat Apr 19 18:58:03 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Good Friday., posted by AlM on Sat Apr 19 18:47:07 2014.

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How so?

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Re: It Is Now Good Friday.

Posted by AlM on Sat Apr 19 19:07:37 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Good Friday., posted by Nilet on Sat Apr 19 18:58:03 2014.

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You already read my explanation several days ago.


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Re: It Is Now Good Friday.

Posted by Nilet on Sat Apr 19 19:09:44 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Good Friday., posted by AlM on Sat Apr 19 19:07:37 2014.

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Yes, and I already commented on it.

You interpreted the word "celebrate" to mean "perform a religious ceremony" and got upset that I was performing the religious ceremony wrong.

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Re: It Is Now Good Friday.

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sun Apr 20 05:12:07 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Good Friday., posted by Nilet on Sat Apr 19 18:13:56 2014.

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Again...."Christians" can eat meat on Good Friday. One part of them can't so how would you offend Christianity by eating a bacon cheeseburger?

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Re: It Is Now Good Friday.

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sun Apr 20 05:13:39 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Good Friday., posted by Nilet on Sat Apr 19 19:09:44 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Again with the faulty reading comprehension. Why attempt it Al?

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