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Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals

Posted by bingbong on Sun Apr 6 15:34:00 2014, in response to Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Apr 6 15:23:33 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Wow, you prove yourself clueless every time. Nilet, I share your amusement.

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Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Apr 6 15:34:08 2014, in response to Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals, posted by streetcarman1 on Sun Apr 6 15:29:48 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Never listened to the man. But in your leftist ideal, you think anyone that doesn't agree with you "must" listen to Limbough. Never seen or heard his show.

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Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Apr 6 15:35:31 2014, in response to Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals, posted by streetcarman1 on Sun Apr 6 15:30:46 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Again, you are just sad you aren't the extremist at the butt of jokes and seriousness here anymore, as that has finally passed to Nilet.

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Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Apr 6 15:36:14 2014, in response to Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Apr 6 00:46:06 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
He's not any kind of Samaritan.

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Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Apr 6 15:36:22 2014, in response to Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals, posted by Nilet on Sun Apr 6 15:22:02 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Hahahahahhahaha. Again, it's hilarious how you believe your subjective opinion is "fact". You don't know the difference between "fact" and fact, exactly why you aren't worth debating with.

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Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals

Posted by Nilet on Sun Apr 6 15:36:30 2014, in response to Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Apr 6 15:16:25 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Just FYI— when a point is proven six ways to Sunday, you no longer get to call it ridiculous.

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Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Apr 6 15:36:54 2014, in response to Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals, posted by streetcarman1 on Sun Apr 6 15:25:07 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Okay...whatever that means!!

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Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Apr 6 15:37:18 2014, in response to Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals, posted by Nilet on Sun Apr 6 15:22:42 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Hahahahahahahahaha. Not in the least. Keep believing though if it makes you or your ego feel better.

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Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals

Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Apr 6 15:37:22 2014, in response to Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Apr 6 15:35:31 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
He already tried holding Nilet's opinion up as some sort of standard of legitimacy now. He knows who the new King General Secretary of the OTChat Left is.

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Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals

Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Apr 6 15:38:56 2014, in response to Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Apr 6 00:46:06 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Well, you don't do either Testament, so I can't feel bad about that. The Testament of Marx doesn't work.

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Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Apr 6 15:39:26 2014, in response to Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals, posted by Olog-hai on Sun Apr 6 15:32:55 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
That's when I knew he was gone, when he said Obama was moderate to far right. He's beyond reason, thus not worth having actual discussion with.
In his alternate reality, he also thinks that bingbong and streetcarman is "everyone" here.

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Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals

Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Apr 6 15:39:43 2014, in response to Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Apr 6 15:36:14 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
I should hope not. Those were the people the Assyrians put in the land of Israel after they forced the Israelites into captivity.

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Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Apr 6 15:40:57 2014, in response to Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals, posted by Nilet on Sun Apr 6 15:32:29 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Again, you aren't worth my time. It's not worth debating or attempting to have conversation with someone as irrational as you have proved yourself to be. And I don't just mean for the last few days of posts, I mean just over the years.

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Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Apr 6 15:42:59 2014, in response to Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals, posted by bingbong on Sun Apr 6 15:34:00 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Again, coming from you or streetcarman means nothing. They only thing that YOU have going for you however, is that you are at least a rational person behind your trolling internet persona. I know your game. Even streetcar man knows exactly what he is doing when he posts.
Nilet however is truly clueless and completely irrational, as he actually believes some of the stuff he says.

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Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals

Posted by Nilet on Sun Apr 6 15:44:55 2014, in response to Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Apr 6 15:39:26 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
He's beyond reason, thus not worth having actual discussion with.

And yet here you are. Again. And again. And again. You just can't get enough of me! :)

By the way, how's that evidence coming along? You were asked to provide an example of a single "far left" position I hold, but all I see is more evasions.

In his alternate reality, he also thinks that bingbong and streetcarman is "everyone" here.

Where did I say "here?" I know this will come as a surprise to people who spend their Saturday nights drooling gibberish on the internet, but there's actually a world out there, full of people far more rational than you.

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Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Apr 6 15:45:14 2014, in response to Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals, posted by Nilet on Sun Apr 6 15:36:30 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
LOL, I'll let you believe that posting a few google images of a few extremists (some the same guy posted multiple) means you proved a point. LOL.

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Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals

Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Apr 6 15:46:28 2014, in response to Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Apr 6 15:45:14 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
At least he hasn't been bothered anymore for taking pictures (as he claimed).

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Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Apr 6 15:50:11 2014, in response to Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Apr 6 15:16:25 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
So you deny that the Confederate flag is flown by many people?

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Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Apr 6 15:50:57 2014, in response to Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals, posted by Nilet on Sun Apr 6 15:44:55 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Thinking Obama is moderate to far right is more than enough to prove you are "far left", right in your post. WOW!

know this will come as a surprise to people who spend their Saturday nights drooling gibberish on the internet, but there's actually a world out there, full of people far more rational than you.

Haha, and you certainly weren't involved with it.

I have a family at home. If I was spending time "picking up girls" at a bar instead, I don't think I would be that good of a husband. But keep believing your twisted idea of reality.



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Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals

Posted by Nilet on Sun Apr 6 15:51:49 2014, in response to Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Apr 6 15:21:06 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Just FYI— a circle jerk with your extremist buddies is not a "debate."

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Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Apr 6 15:52:26 2014, in response to Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals, posted by Olog-hai on Sun Apr 6 15:46:28 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
I forgot about that! He's the guy with the greasy long hair that kept getting stopped for taking pictures. I completely forgot about that!

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Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals

Posted by Nilet on Sun Apr 6 15:53:17 2014, in response to Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Apr 6 15:36:22 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
OK, smart guy. Describe some of your positions, and we'll see how well they fit into the Democratic party.

You do remember that was the original point of this exchange, right?

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Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Apr 6 15:54:59 2014, in response to Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Apr 6 15:50:11 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
It is. But it doesn't prove his statement. One can google any image they want but that doesn't mean it proves a statement.

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Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals

Posted by Nilet on Sun Apr 6 15:56:32 2014, in response to Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Apr 6 15:37:18 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
I was going to warn you that baseless pontificating while pwned might cause a brain hemorrhage, but that would require you having a brain in the first place.

You made a point. I trivially disproved it. Then you started spouting gibberish. I know you invested a good chunk of ego in that point, but egos heal a lot faster than reputations. Do you really want to be known as the person who laughs at and insults the guy who tells you the sky is blue?

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Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Apr 6 15:56:58 2014, in response to Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals, posted by Nilet on Sun Apr 6 15:51:49 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahyahyahhhahaha!!!

My debate is mainly with people FROM the left, worth debating and having a conversation with. Which is many here.

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Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals

Posted by Nilet on Sun Apr 6 15:58:35 2014, in response to Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals, posted by streetcarman1 on Sun Apr 6 15:23:05 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Olog will never get it. Olog is physically or mentally incapable of getting it. Trying to explain anything to Olog is like talking to a brick wall.

Which means, to continue the metaphor, that taking the piss out of Olog is like using dynamite to blow up a brick wall— a bit messy, but loads of fun!

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Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals

Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Apr 6 16:00:54 2014, in response to Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals, posted by Nilet on Sun Apr 6 15:56:32 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Did you see the article I linked to? The one with the elected Democrats fighting low-income housing in a nice neighborhood?

"Nice". That's code.

You can no longer deny this reprehensible behavior on the part of the Democrats.

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Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Apr 6 16:02:34 2014, in response to Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals, posted by Nilet on Sun Apr 6 15:53:17 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Abortion should be legal and readily available.
Birth control should be made even more available so that unwanted pregnancies don't happen to begin with.
I am a rabid environmentalist. We don't do enough recycling.
I am for regulations on land where people couldn't remove trees just at random.
I believe there should be more covenants on locations where people couldn't just build whatever they want.
I believe gay marriage should be available in all 50 states.
I have absolutely NO PATIENCE for religious extremists. I think many "churches" should actually be paying property taxes. Many "for profit "religious" organizations take advantage of that.
Just a few of my positions. Very "Republican", no?

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Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Apr 6 16:04:34 2014, in response to Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals, posted by Nilet on Sun Apr 6 15:58:35 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Trying to explain anything to Olog is like talking to a brick wall.

Look in the mirror, that's one of the reasons I gave up even attempting to engage in meaningful conversation or debate on political issues with you years ago.


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Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Apr 6 16:07:22 2014, in response to Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals, posted by Olog-hai on Sun Apr 6 15:32:55 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Actually, Nixon would be considered a liberal by today's GOP, particularly the Tea Party faction.

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Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals

Posted by cortelyounext on Sun Apr 6 16:09:14 2014, in response to Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Apr 6 16:00:54 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Are you coming up to New York to attend/participate in the Mercedes-Benz Fashion Week that kicks off tomorrow? I hope to attend the runway no pun intended events and will look for JayZeeBMT who will probably be covering the gala in his official capacity as a journalist of note. You can take Amtrak or Greyhound. Should be a good time.

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Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals

Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Apr 6 16:10:58 2014, in response to Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals, posted by Nilet on Sun Apr 6 15:58:35 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Trying to explain anything to Olog is like talking to a brick wall

Explain? You try to beat people over the head with lies and bizarre personal opinions.

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Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals

Posted by Nilet on Sun Apr 6 16:11:23 2014, in response to Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Apr 6 15:00:41 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
OK, let's go over my point again, and see if we can figure out where you went off the rails.

Premise 1: Loads of people wave Confederate flags.
Premise 2: Flags are symbols for ideas.
Premise 3: Making a point of displaying a flag shows support of the ideas it represents.
Premise 4: The Confederate flag represents the Confederacy.
Premise 5: The Confederacy existed for the sole purpose of endorsing and perpetuating slavery.
Premise 6: If a person endorses something, then he believes it is right and just.
Deduction 1: People who wave the Confederate flag are endorsing the Confederacy (derived from premises 2, 3, and 4).
Deduction 2: People who wave the Confederate flag are endorsing slavery (derived from premise 5 & deduction 1).
Deduction 3: Therefore, a substantial chunk of the population believes that slavery was right and just. (derived from deduction 2 & premise 6).

So where did you go wrong? Explain which premise you believe is false, or which deduction you believe is fallacious.

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Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals

Posted by Nilet on Sun Apr 6 16:13:10 2014, in response to Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Apr 6 15:27:39 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
No one denies that I lean slightly to the left, but that doesn't change the fact that you accuse me of being extreme left and yet cannot provide a single example of a far left position that I hold.

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Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals

Posted by Nilet on Sun Apr 6 16:15:33 2014, in response to Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Apr 6 15:40:57 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Oh I see, I'm worth the hours you spend arguing with me, but not the ten seconds it would take to link to one of the many posts you claim proves your point?

By the way, declaring me "not worth your time" and repeating your claim that I'm irrational without providing the requested evidence for it both count as "evasions," so I'll note that your evasive behaviour continues on your file.

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Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals

Posted by bingbong on Sun Apr 6 16:17:12 2014, in response to Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals, posted by Olog-hai on Sun Apr 6 16:10:58 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Those two, "lies and bizarre political opionions" are your calling card. You never cease to amuse.

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Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Apr 6 16:17:35 2014, in response to Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals, posted by cortelyounext on Sun Apr 6 16:09:14 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
I must point out that the current Mercedes-Benz Fashion Week, scheduled to run from today until Thursday, is in Australia. New York Fashion week doesn't occur again until early September, when I will help produce the Runway Series and Catwalk events. However, tomorrow morning will see the launch of the premier issue of our brand-new GBM Style Magazine, which will feature must-have outfits for the discerning aviator. :)





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Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals

Posted by Nilet on Sun Apr 6 16:17:47 2014, in response to Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Apr 6 15:42:59 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Nilet however is truly clueless and completely irrational....

As proven by which post? Name one position I hold that you consider "irrational." You've been asked, what, seven times now? Repeated evasions are just as much a form of surrender as laughing.

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Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals

Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Apr 6 16:20:23 2014, in response to Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals, posted by Nilet on Sun Apr 6 16:11:23 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Confederate flag represents southern white baptist country music culture anti elitist.

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Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Apr 6 16:22:20 2014, in response to Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Apr 6 16:20:23 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d


Sorry, Luch. Couldn't resist THIS one.

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Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals

Posted by Nilet on Sun Apr 6 16:22:43 2014, in response to Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Apr 6 15:54:59 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
It is. But it doesn't prove his statement. One can google any image they want but that doesn't mean it proves a statement.

Jeez, how thick are you? You complain that I haven't proven my point in the blue text, but you conceded that exact point one sentence earlier in the red text.

My point was that the Confederate flag is flown by many people, and you just admitted it.

Now that we've gotten that out of the way, tell me— do you believe the Confederacy wasn't pro-slavery? Do you believe that flying a country's flag does not indicate support for that country?

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Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals

Posted by Nilet on Sun Apr 6 16:24:49 2014, in response to Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Apr 6 15:45:14 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
I proved it. You conceded it. That settles it.

Please don't tell me we have to argue over the legitimacy of a point you already admitted was true.

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Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals

Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Apr 6 16:26:54 2014, in response to Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Apr 6 16:17:35 2014.

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Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals

Posted by Nilet on Sun Apr 6 16:28:26 2014, in response to Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Apr 6 15:50:57 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Thinking Obama is moderate to far right is more than enough to prove you are "far left", right in your post. WOW!

We've been through this before. As long as we're talking about "left" and "right" as abstract concepts, you have no problem blathering at length.

I asked you to name a position I hold that you consider "far left." What policy do I support that is "far left?" If I were a legislator, what bill that I would introduce is "far left?"

This is just more evasion.

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Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals

Posted by streetcarman1 on Sun Apr 6 16:28:38 2014, in response to Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Apr 6 15:35:31 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
"Again, you are just sad you aren't the extremist at the butt of jokes and seriousness here anymore, as that has finally passed to Nilet."

So here's the question of the day...... GP38/R42 Chris ...who died and left you in charge of Subchat?

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Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals

Posted by Nilet on Sun Apr 6 16:32:51 2014, in response to Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Apr 6 15:56:58 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Name them.

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Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals

Posted by streetcarman1 on Sun Apr 6 16:33:33 2014, in response to Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals, posted by Olog-hai on Sun Apr 6 15:37:22 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
"He already tried holding Nilet's opinion up as some sort of standard of legitimacy now. He knows who the new King General Secretary of the OTChat Left is."

LOL......come on...Olog-hai....your brain can do better than that. Calling me....lil ole me....a commie.....reaks of the 1950s and McCarthyism.....this is 2014...you should know better....haven't you kept up pace with time yet? lol


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Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals

Posted by cortelyounext on Sun Apr 6 16:35:46 2014, in response to Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Apr 6 16:17:35 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
I was confused but I thought the man from Australia who was highlighted on the Mercedes-Benz Fashion Week Home page ("Runway") was going to be in New York. I stand corrected and look forward to your work - I always thought there needed to be an aviator in uniform wearing reflective Ray-Ban Aviator shades as a tenured member of The Village People. I have a couple weeks of vacation assigned in September that will hopefully overlap otherwise I will call in sick and attend said event. I hope there will be an Evening Soiree and Ball as part of the Opening Day festivities down on Little W. 12th Street. I think LuchAAA may come over from Tampa or Italy that is if he has not already relocated to Metropolitan Avenue in Queens and registered as a Democrat as he has threatened to do.

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Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals

Posted by Nilet on Sun Apr 6 16:36:41 2014, in response to Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Apr 6 16:02:34 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Abortion should be legal and readily available.

Left wing. Democrats generally for, Republicans universally against.

Birth control should be made even more available so that unwanted pregnancies don't happen to begin with.

Left wing. Democrats generally for, Republicans universally against.

I am a rabid environmentalist. We don't do enough recycling.

Left wing. Democrats generally for, Republicans universally against.

I am for regulations on land where people couldn't remove trees just at random.

Left wing. Democrats generally for, Republicans universally against.

I believe there should be more covenants on locations where people couldn't just build whatever they want.

Left-wingish. Republicans for only for the limited purpose of preserving hereditary wealth. Democrats vary.

I believe gay marriage should be available in all 50 states.

Left wing. Democrats generally for, Republicans universally against.

I have absolutely NO PATIENCE for religious extremists. I think many "churches" should actually be paying property taxes. Many "for profit "religious" organizations take advantage of that.

Left wing. Democrats generally for, Republicans universally against.

Just a few of my positions. Very "Republican", no?

*jaw drop*

Oh my nonexistent god.

You are more liberal than I am.

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Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals

Posted by Nilet on Sun Apr 6 16:37:49 2014, in response to Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Apr 6 16:00:54 2014.

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Yeah, we've been through that at length. Short version: Some people oppose the project, but there's no reason to assume that they're Democrats and even less reason to assume that they're liberal.

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