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Re: GOP *finally* declares open war on teabaggers and other crazies

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Mar 9 19:40:53 2014, in response to Re: GOP *finally* declares open war on teabaggers and other crazies, posted by Train Dude on Sun Mar 9 19:29:22 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Heh. I love it. You're all worked up about that word and yet you constantly salt your posts with worse. Hypocrite much?

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Re: GOP-e tries to dump on the GOP base—again

Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Mar 9 19:53:46 2014, in response to Re: GOP *finally* declares open war on teabaggers and other crazies, posted by Stephen Bauman on Sun Mar 9 12:43:48 2014.

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The Republican Party has been against progressive programs, since they threw out Theodore Roosevelt in 1912

Completely false. Who signed the biggest public works program of the country into law? Eisenhower. Who signed Amtrak into law? Nixon. Who signed off on the most recent Medicare expansion including Part D? Bush.

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Re: GOP-e tries to dump on the GOP base—again

Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Mar 9 19:57:02 2014, in response to Re: GOP *finally* declares open war on teabaggers and other crazies, posted by Train Dude on Sun Mar 9 19:29:22 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Even with their shift leftwards, Fox News has been consistently against anyone who uses that particular sexual term to describe anyone affiliated with the Tea Party Patriots or is otherwise both socially and fiscally conservative.

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Re: GOP-e tries to dump on the GOP base—again

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Mar 9 20:04:48 2014, in response to Re: GOP-e tries to dump on the GOP base—again, posted by Olog-hai on Sun Mar 9 19:53:46 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Signing an act of congress doesn't create a law. Now who was in congress who wrote what got signed?

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Re: GOP-e tries to dump on the GOP base—again

Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Mar 9 20:09:05 2014, in response to Re: GOP-e tries to dump on the GOP base—again, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Mar 9 20:04:48 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Signing an act of congress doesn't create a law

LOL! Which country are you talking about, now?

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Re: GOP-e tries to dump on the GOP base—again

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Mar 9 20:09:55 2014, in response to Re: GOP-e tries to dump on the GOP base—again, posted by Olog-hai on Sun Mar 9 19:57:02 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Gee ... I wonder why? Especially after FOX News went to such great lengths to scrub their archives of their own use of the word once they found out what they had said on the air meant. :)

http://gawker.com/5215126/oh--thats-what-that-means-fox-news-learns-the-definition-of-teabagging

Oh ... and lookee here! Even after finding out, look for "Click here to join a discussion on teabagging" a little less than halfway down on their OWN screed. :)

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/04/16/cable-anchors-guests-use-tea-parties-platform-frat-house-humor/

Yep ... never happened. :)

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Re: GOP-e tries to dump on the GOP base—again

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Mar 9 20:13:24 2014, in response to Re: GOP-e tries to dump on the GOP base—again, posted by Olog-hai on Sun Mar 9 20:09:05 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Waitaminute ... are you suggesting that we dig up and deport those guys?

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Re: GOP-e tries to dump on the GOP base—again

Posted by Stephen Bauman on Sun Mar 9 21:04:18 2014, in response to Re: GOP-e tries to dump on the GOP base—again, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Mar 9 20:04:48 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Now who was in congress who wrote what got signed?

The bill that Eisenhower signed was sponsored by Sen. Albert Gore Sr.

There was an alternate Republican proposal that Eisenhower sent to Congress. That proposal was defeated by heavy majorities by both houses. The primary objection to Eisenhower's proposal was that it placed too much funding on the states.

The first proposal for an interstate highway system was contained in a report to Congress, authorized in the Federal-Aid Highway Act of 1938. The report was submitted in early 1939 with FDR's recommendation for passage. It was described as "another ascent into the stratosphere of New Deal jitterbug economics" by some Republicans.

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Re: GOP *finally* declares open war on teabaggers and other crazies

Posted by Stephen Bauman on Sun Mar 9 21:11:55 2014, in response to Re: GOP *finally* declares open war on teabaggers and other crazies, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Mar 9 16:10:43 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
the dems ended up going too far the other way after the war.

Excerpt from FDR's 1944 State of the Union address.

We have come to a clear realization of the fact that true individual freedom cannot exist without economic security and independence. “Necessitous men are not free men.” People who are hungry and out of a job are the stuff of which dictatorships are made.

In our day these economic truths have become accepted as self-evident. We have accepted, so to speak, a second Bill of Rights under which a new basis of security and prosperity can be established for all—regardless of station, race, or creed.

Among these are:

The right to a useful and remunerative job in the industries or shops or farms or mines of the nation;

The right to earn enough to provide adequate food and clothing and recreation;

The right of every farmer to raise and sell his products at a return which will give him and his family a decent living;

The right of every businessman, large and small, to trade in an atmosphere of freedom from unfair competition and domination by monopolies at home or abroad;

The right of every family to a decent home;

The right to adequate medical care and the opportunity to achieve and enjoy good health;

The right to adequate protection from the economic fears of old age, sickness, accident, and unemployment;

The right to a good education.

All of these rights spell security. And after this war is won we must be prepared to move forward, in the implementation of these rights, to new goals of human happiness and well-being.

America’s own rightful place in the world depends in large part upon how fully these and similar rights have been carried into practice for our citizens.


Just which one of these points went "too far?"

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Re: GOP-e tries to dump on the GOP base—again

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Mar 9 21:13:06 2014, in response to Re: GOP-e tries to dump on the GOP base—again, posted by Stephen Bauman on Sun Mar 9 21:04:18 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Heh. Yep ... knew that. I was kinda rubbing Olog's nose in it. :)

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Re: GOP *finally* declares open war on teabaggers and other crazies

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Mar 9 21:14:11 2014, in response to Re: GOP *finally* declares open war on teabaggers and other crazies, posted by Stephen Bauman on Sun Mar 9 21:11:55 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
None of them. I was describing primarily the McCarthy/McGovern diversion which even democrats weren't interested in.

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Re: GOP *finally* declares open war on teabaggers and other crazies

Posted by Stephen Bauman on Sun Mar 9 21:28:24 2014, in response to Re: GOP *finally* declares open war on teabaggers and other crazies, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Mar 9 21:14:11 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
the McCarthy/McGovern diversion which even democrats weren't interested in.

There was very little difference between Eugene McCarthy and McGovern's domestic program and those of the mainstream Democrats like Humphrey. They all supported Johnson's domestic program.

Their big difference was ending the Vietnam War as quickly as possible. More Americans died in Vietnam during Nixon's Administration than during Johnson's.

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Re: GOP *finally* declares open war on teabaggers and other crazies

Posted by Train Dude on Sun Mar 9 22:35:33 2014, in response to Re: GOP *finally* declares open war on teabaggers and other crazies, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Mar 9 19:40:53 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
No hypocrisy, shit head! There is a difference between what you do and what I do. I am not painting an entire group with an offensive epithet. I'm referring to one ass hole, you. There is another difference, ass hole. You need to make justify yourself with excuses like "Well FOX said it first." I don't need to find excuses. I think that you are an ass hole - me to you. Man to man. I don't need to insult every other liberal here to make my point.

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Re: GOP-e tries to dump on the GOP base—again

Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Mar 9 22:39:48 2014, in response to Re: GOP-e tries to dump on the GOP base—again, posted by Stephen Bauman on Sun Mar 9 21:04:18 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Irrelevant. Ever heard of a veto?

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Re: GOP *finally* declares open war on teabaggers and other crazies

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Mar 9 22:57:29 2014, in response to Re: GOP *finally* declares open war on teabaggers and other crazies, posted by Train Dude on Sun Mar 9 22:35:33 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Hmmmmm ...


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Re: GOP *finally* declares open war on teabaggers and other crazies

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sun Mar 9 23:38:28 2014, in response to Re: GOP *finally* declares open war on teabaggers and other crazies, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Mar 9 22:57:29 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
BIG LOL !
: )

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Re: GOP *finally* declares open war on teabaggers and other crazies

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Mar 9 23:49:31 2014, in response to Re: GOP *finally* declares open war on teabaggers and other crazies, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sun Mar 9 23:38:28 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
I mean ... I mean ... the guy's always talking about coming up this way this summer. If he really wants to have me out on a date, he could at least try asking nicer than that. :)

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Re: GOP *finally* declares open war on teabaggers and other crazies

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Mon Mar 10 00:05:56 2014, in response to Re: GOP *finally* declares open war on teabaggers and other crazies, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Mar 9 23:49:31 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
agreed IAWTP

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Re: GOP-e tries to dump on the GOP base—again

Posted by Edwards! on Mon Mar 10 01:08:11 2014, in response to Re: GOP-e tries to dump on the GOP base—again, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Mar 9 16:27:20 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
which OLOG is an intricate part of.

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Re: GOP-e tries to dump on the GOP base—again

Posted by Edwards! on Mon Mar 10 01:18:07 2014, in response to Re: GOP-e tries to dump on the GOP base—again, posted by Olog-hai on Sun Mar 9 13:56:38 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
come one..

YOU are an "enemy of Israel"!

you care NOTHING for it people..its existance..
the ONLY THING you seem to care about when it concerns that piece of earth is the fact its suppose to be the place where "Christ" touches down when he makes his grand return.
you care NOTHING about the PRICE THAT WILL BE PAID so that can happen.

why dont you join us out here in the struggle..if you got so much faith..and help SAVE some of those souls..instead of condemning them?

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Re: GOP-e tries to dump on the GOP base—again

Posted by Edwards! on Mon Mar 10 01:21:02 2014, in response to Re: GOP-e tries to dump on the GOP base—again, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Mar 9 16:09:33 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
LMAO!

GOOD ONE..!
MAJOR PWNAGE..

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Re: GOP *finally* declares open war on teabaggers and other crazies

Posted by Edwards! on Mon Mar 10 01:24:48 2014, in response to Re: GOP *finally* declares open war on teabaggers and other crazies, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Mar 9 16:10:43 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
WAY too far..but again..they are very different NOW.

Just like the repukes of today that Lincoln was part of.
strange times we live in..

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Re: GOP-e tries to dump on the GOP base—again

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Mar 10 02:20:02 2014, in response to Re: GOP-e tries to dump on the GOP base—again, posted by chicagomotorman on Sun Mar 9 18:59:06 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Of course you did.

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Re: GOP-e tries to dump on the GOP base—again

Posted by Edwards! on Mon Mar 10 03:26:17 2014, in response to Re: GOP-e tries to dump on the GOP base—again, posted by Olog-hai on Sun Mar 9 19:57:02 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
LOL!
TEA PARTY "PATRIOTS"?
FISCALLY CONSERVATIVE?

Are you referring to the folks who clapped..shook hands..laughed with joy over putting people out of work?..closing down government?

you talking about the folks who are FINE with spending OTHER PEOPLES MONEY..but wont spend theirs?
you talking about the folks who are busy trying to keep poorer Americans OUT of the voting process so they can put who THEY want in public office?

Patriots?
more like LIBERTARIAN CRIMINALS like YOU..who should be arrested and locked up for crimes against humanity.

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Re: GOP-e tries to dump on the GOP base—again

Posted by Dave on Mon Mar 10 06:25:02 2014, in response to Re: GOP-e tries to dump on the GOP base—again, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Mar 9 16:09:33 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Re: GOP-e tries to dump on the GOP base—again

Posted by Stephen Bauman on Mon Mar 10 07:16:48 2014, in response to Re: GOP-e tries to dump on the GOP base—again, posted by Olog-hai on Sun Mar 9 22:39:48 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Ever heard of a veto?

Eisenhower's Bill was rejected by the House by a 221-193 vote. The Gore Bill passed the House by a 388-19 vote. Any Eisenhower veto would have been overridden.

Eisenhower's contribution was proposing a bill that could not pass and not vetoing Gore's Bill when he would surely have been overridden.

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Re: GOP *finally* declares open war on teabaggers and other crazies

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Mon Mar 10 09:41:00 2014, in response to Re: GOP *finally* declares open war on teabaggers and other crazies, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Mar 9 22:57:29 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
I was going to stick up for you. But you just blew it.

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Re: GOP *finally* declares open war on teabaggers and other crazies

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Mon Mar 10 09:44:25 2014, in response to Re: GOP *finally* declares open war on teabaggers and other crazies, posted by AlM on Sun Mar 9 18:04:37 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Very interesting. Thanks.

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Re: GOP-e tries to dump on the GOP base—again

Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Mar 10 11:51:10 2014, in response to Re: GOP-e tries to dump on the GOP base—again, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Mar 9 16:09:33 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
So you are anti-Israel then? Thought so.

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Re: GOP-e tries to dump on the GOP base—again

Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Mar 10 11:51:32 2014, in response to Re: GOP-e tries to dump on the GOP base—again, posted by Dave on Mon Mar 10 06:25:02 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
He just admitted he is against Israel. Did you notice that?

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Re: GOP-e tries to dump on the GOP base—again

Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Mar 10 11:52:02 2014, in response to Re: GOP-e tries to dump on the GOP base—again, posted by Edwards! on Mon Mar 10 01:21:02 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Sure, if you're five years old.

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Re: GOP-e tries to dump on the GOP base—again

Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Mar 10 11:56:03 2014, in response to Re: GOP-e tries to dump on the GOP base—again, posted by bingbong on Sun Mar 9 19:04:14 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
LOL! Nay . . . "batshit" craziness is a province of teh m00nbat.

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Re: GOP-e tries to dump on the GOP base—again

Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Mar 10 12:04:33 2014, in response to Re: GOP-e tries to dump on the GOP base—again, posted by Stephen Bauman on Mon Mar 10 07:16:48 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
What on earth are you talking about?? The Federal Aid Highway Act of 1956 met absolutely no resistance in either the House or Senate.

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Re: GOP-e tries to dump on the GOP base—again

Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Mar 10 12:05:44 2014, in response to Re: GOP-e tries to dump on the GOP base—again, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Mar 9 20:09:55 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
See, I was right. Talking about others saying "teabagging" is not the same thing.

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Re: GOP-e tries to dump on the GOP base—again

Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Mar 10 12:08:43 2014, in response to Re: GOP-e tries to dump on the GOP base—again, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Mar 9 16:27:20 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
So you're saying "his own" are the Democrats then, eh?



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Re: GOP-e tries to dump on the GOP base—again

Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Mar 10 12:10:57 2014, in response to Re: GOP-e tries to dump on the GOP base—again, posted by Edwards! on Mon Mar 10 01:18:07 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
When you stop blaspheming Christ, I'll think about it.

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Re: GOP-e tries to dump on the GOP base—again

Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Mar 10 12:13:11 2014, in response to Re: GOP-e tries to dump on the GOP base—again, posted by Edwards! on Mon Mar 10 03:26:17 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Where do you make this garbage up??? Everything you just accused them of is what your liberal Democrats do.

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Re: GOP-e tries to dump on the GOP base—again

Posted by mtk52983 on Mon Mar 10 12:14:54 2014, in response to Re: GOP-e tries to dump on the GOP base—again, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Mar 10 11:51:32 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
when did he say that? I do not read every post on here so just asking

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Re: GOP-e tries to dump on the GOP base—again

Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Mar 10 12:18:10 2014, in response to Re: GOP-e tries to dump on the GOP base—again, posted by mtk52983 on Mon Mar 10 12:14:54 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Refusal to deny when pressed, and going into personal attacks.

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Re: GOP *finally* declares open war on teabaggers and other crazies

Posted by 3-9 on Mon Mar 10 13:17:22 2014, in response to Re: GOP *finally* declares open war on teabaggers and other crazies, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Mar 9 16:20:04 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
I think we can. We piss more than that in political pork.

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Re: GOP *finally* declares open war on teabaggers and other crazies

Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Mar 10 13:20:20 2014, in response to Re: GOP *finally* declares open war on teabaggers and other crazies, posted by 3-9 on Mon Mar 10 13:17:22 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
thanks 12-9.

i just don't see the need to spending so much money welfare for asylum. i think the money can be better spent on veterans, defense, education, light rail, aviation, etc.........

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Re: GOP blah blah blah blah tea party blah blah blah

Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Mar 10 13:32:18 2014, in response to Re: GOP *finally* declares open war on teabaggers and other crazies, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Mar 10 13:20:20 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Only "light rail" that ought to be invested in is the "streetcar" variety, e.g. Portland Streetcar, since that comes in at $10 million per mile or less. That's cheap enough to make it feasible to get rid of "bustitution" (if only Philly would listen w.r.t. routes 23 and 56, and maybe some other bus routes).

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Re: GOP *finally* declares open war on teabaggers and other crazies

Posted by cortelyounext on Mon Mar 10 13:34:06 2014, in response to Re: GOP *finally* declares open war on teabaggers and other crazies, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Mar 10 13:20:20 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Did you hear about that guy in Hempstead who gunned down some other guy in front of a dry cleaning establishment in Uniondale? Another guy stabbed some other guy dead in Central Islip. Both actors are in custody. The weather is warming up now due to AGW and it is going to be a dangerous summer in places such as eastern Long Island, Newark, Camden, Paterson, Washington D.C., Cleveland, Detroit, East St. Louis, Gary, Flint, and whatnot.

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Re: GOP-e tries to dump on the GOP base—again

Posted by bingbong on Mon Mar 10 13:59:12 2014, in response to Re: GOP-e tries to dump on the GOP base—again, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Mar 10 11:56:03 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Who is Michele Bachmann.

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Re: GOP-e tries to dump on the GOP base—again

Posted by bingbong on Mon Mar 10 14:00:34 2014, in response to Re: GOP-e tries to dump on the GOP base—again, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Mar 10 12:04:33 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Which was the Gore bill, NOT the Eisenhower bill.

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Re: GOP-e tries to dump on the GOP base—again

Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Mar 10 14:08:34 2014, in response to Re: GOP-e tries to dump on the GOP base—again, posted by bingbong on Mon Mar 10 14:00:34 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Equally irrelevant. The matter is Eisenhower's support.

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Re: GOP-e tries to dump on the GOP base—again

Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Mar 10 14:09:23 2014, in response to Re: GOP-e tries to dump on the GOP base—again, posted by bingbong on Mon Mar 10 13:59:12 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Heh . . . calling Bachmann a liberal Democrat now? Almost as amusing as calling Obama a Republican . . .

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Re: GOP *finally* declares open war on teabaggers and other crazies

Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Mar 10 14:12:07 2014, in response to Re: GOP *finally* declares open war on teabaggers and other crazies, posted by cortelyounext on Mon Mar 10 13:34:06 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
I did not know about Central Islip until you brought it up. Thanks.

LI is changing.

Last week alm complained about lack of minority on minority crime threads.

Do you know what the word Parapet means?

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Re: GOP-e tries to dump on the GOP base—again

Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Mar 10 14:14:03 2014, in response to Re: GOP *finally* declares open war on teabaggers and other crazies, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Mar 10 14:12:07 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Last week alm complained about lack of minority on minority crime threads

. . . but doesn't post any.

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Re: GOP *finally* declares open war on teabaggers and other crazies

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Mar 10 14:16:34 2014, in response to Re: GOP *finally* declares open war on teabaggers and other crazies, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Mon Mar 10 09:41:00 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Nah ... that's OK. I've got this one. :)

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