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Re: Obama says US can't help Israel If Peace Talks Fail

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Mar 4 16:13:25 2014, in response to Re: Obama says US can't help Israel If Peace Talks Fail, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Mar 4 15:47:22 2014.

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Yes they are.

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Re: Obama saysUS can't help Israel If Peace Talks Fail

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Mar 4 16:13:25 2014, in response to Re: Obama saysUS can't help Israel If Peace Talks Fail, posted by Dave on Tue Mar 4 13:53:31 2014.

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He's making the best argument I've ever seen about why the right is completely full of shit about Benghazi ... let him keep going for it. :)

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Re: Israeli National Suicide Deal Reached

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Mar 4 16:14:21 2014, in response to Re: Israeli National Suicide Deal Reached, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Mar 4 10:51:01 2014.

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Oh look ... it's the Space Pope. :)

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Re: Obama says US can't help Israel If Peace Talks Fail

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Mar 4 16:16:27 2014, in response to Re: Obama says US can't help Israel If Peace Talks Fail, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Mar 4 15:52:07 2014.

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Again, Sarah Palin is not an anti-Semite.

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Re: Obama saysUS can't help Israel If Peace Talks Fail

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Mar 4 16:18:25 2014, in response to Re: Obama saysUS can't help Israel If Peace Talks Fail, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Mar 4 15:54:05 2014.

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Is your name WillD?

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Re: Obama says US can't help Israel If Peace Talks Fail

Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Mar 4 16:18:53 2014, in response to Re: Obama says US can't help Israel If Peace Talks Fail, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Mar 4 16:16:27 2014.

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Still haven't "proven" it, eh?

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Re: Obama says US can't help Israel If Peace Talks Fail

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Mar 4 16:20:01 2014, in response to Re: Obama says US can't help Israel If Peace Talks Fail, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Mar 4 16:18:53 2014.

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Whose side are you on?

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Re: Obama says US can't help Israel If Peace Talks Fail

Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Mar 4 16:31:06 2014, in response to Re: Obama says US can't help Israel If Peace Talks Fail, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Mar 4 16:20:01 2014.

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Sorry; that was ambiguous. They still haven't proven that Palin is antisemitic, have they?

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Re: Obama threatens Israel

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Mar 4 16:41:15 2014, in response to Re: Obama threatens Israel, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Mar 4 15:44:10 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Couldn't agree more. FOX News turned the entire profession into a cesspool. :(

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Re: Obama says US can't help Israel If Peace Talks Fail

Posted by bingbong on Tue Mar 4 16:46:34 2014, in response to Re: Obama says US can't help Israel If Peace Talks Fail, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Mar 4 16:10:46 2014.

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You can't be serious.

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Re: Obama threatens Israel

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Mar 4 16:48:13 2014, in response to Re: Obama threatens Israel, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Mar 4 16:07:04 2014.

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The "mainstream media" panders to whatever it thinks its audience wants to hear, reflected in advertising sales. Paddy Chayefsky's "Network" was supposed to be a satire. Instead, it became a textbook. :(

To quote Howard Beale:

But, man, you're never going to get any truth from us. We'll tell you anything you want to hear; we lie like hell. We'll tell you that, uh, Kojak always gets the killer, or that nobody ever gets cancer at Archie Bunker's house, and no matter how much trouble the hero is in, don't worry, just look at your watch; at the end of the hour he's going to win. We'll tell you any shit you want to hear. We deal in *illusions*, man! None of it is true! But you people sit there, day after day, night after night, all ages, colors, creeds... We're all you know. You're beginning to believe the illusions we're spinning here. You're beginning to think that the tube is reality, and that your own lives are unreal. You do whatever the tube tells you! You dress like the tube, you eat like the tube, you raise your children like the tube, you even *think* like the tube! This is mass madness, you maniacs! In God's name, you people are the real thing! *WE* are the illusion! So turn off your television sets. Turn them off now. Turn them off right now. Turn them off and leave them off! Turn them off right in the middle of the sentence I'm speaking to you now! TURN THEM OFF...

I was hoping that FOX News would be the first network assassinated for poor ratings. :)

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Re: Obama says US can't help Israel If Peace Talks Fail

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Mar 4 16:54:25 2014, in response to Re: Obama says US can't help Israel If Peace Talks Fail, posted by bingbong on Tue Mar 4 16:46:34 2014.

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Nope ... he's XM. :)

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Re: Obama says US can't help Israel If Peace Talks Fail

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Mar 4 16:54:51 2014, in response to Re: Obama says US can't help Israel If Peace Talks Fail, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Mar 4 16:10:46 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
I'll have you know that I'm part Scots! I look damned FINE in a skurt! :)

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Re: Obama says US can't help Israel If Peace Talks Fail

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Mar 4 16:55:59 2014, in response to Re: Obama says US can't help Israel If Peace Talks Fail, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Mar 4 16:31:06 2014.

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Since when does anybody need proof to brand anyone an antisemite? :)

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Re: Obama saysUS can't help Israel If Peace Talks Fail

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Mar 4 16:56:41 2014, in response to Re: Obama saysUS can't help Israel If Peace Talks Fail, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Mar 4 16:18:25 2014.

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Is your name Spider-Pig?

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Re: Obama threatens Israel

Posted by Edwards! on Tue Mar 4 17:06:44 2014, in response to Re: Obama threatens Israel, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Mar 4 10:13:41 2014.

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thats the PROBLEM..NOBODY is suppose to take sides..

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Re: Obama threatens Israel

Posted by Edwards! on Tue Mar 4 17:10:15 2014, in response to Re: Obama threatens Israel, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Mar 4 08:52:57 2014.

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why not..?
if that source is an outlet for untruth..misinformation..

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Re: Obama threatens Israel

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Mar 4 17:13:37 2014, in response to Re: Obama threatens Israel, posted by Edwards! on Tue Mar 4 17:06:44 2014.

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LOL!!! So how come you don't mention or complain all the leftist leaning like MSNBC, and so many other?

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Re: Obama threatens Israel

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Mar 4 17:15:54 2014, in response to Re: Obama threatens Israel, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Mar 4 17:13:37 2014.

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Does anyone actually WATCH that shit?

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Re: Obama threatens Israel

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Mar 4 17:29:47 2014, in response to Re: Obama threatens Israel, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Mar 4 17:15:54 2014.

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NOt when everyone is spread out on so many leftist leaning outlets....and only a few rightist.

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Re: Obama threatens Israel

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Mar 4 17:35:38 2014, in response to Re: Obama threatens Israel, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Mar 4 17:29:47 2014.

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Heh. Only know a few "leftists" and not a one of them bothers with cable news on ANY channel. They actually READ. And not just the first couple of sentences. :)

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Re: Obama threatens Israel

Posted by chicagomotorman on Tue Mar 4 17:39:33 2014, in response to Re: Obama threatens Israel, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Mar 4 17:15:54 2014.

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You of all people dont like msnbc?

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Re: Obama says US can't help Israel If Peace Talks Fail

Posted by chicagomotorman on Tue Mar 4 17:40:54 2014, in response to Re: Obama says US can't help Israel If Peace Talks Fail, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Mar 4 16:54:51 2014.

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You play the bagpipes?

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Re: Obama threatens Israel

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Mar 4 17:48:43 2014, in response to Re: Obama threatens Israel, posted by chicagomotorman on Tue Mar 4 17:39:33 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Why would I? It's the same old shit as the others, just a mirror image. We have good local TV stations here that do "real news" (well, sorta) at 6 and 11 plus I know the anchors personally having worked with them for years. The local stations hire reporters right out of journo school from Plattsburgh, Fredonia and Montpelier on their way to the big leagues, so they haven't been poisoned by "instant news" yet.

We have newspapers. That link I gave you the other day for the translator to our KNOS home page gets me Reuters delivered right to my desktop and if I want to know what's going on over in Ukraine, I can chat up Dmitriy or Oleg. If I want to know what's going on in Israel, I can chat up Yakel or Sam. I've GOT people, why would I want to be spoonfed by idiots? :)

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Re: Obama says US can't help Israel If Peace Talks Fail

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Mar 4 17:48:50 2014, in response to Re: Obama says US can't help Israel If Peace Talks Fail, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Mar 4 16:31:06 2014.

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No they haven't.

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Re: Obama says US can't help Israel If Peace Talks Fail

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Mar 4 17:49:50 2014, in response to Re: Obama says US can't help Israel If Peace Talks Fail, posted by chicagomotorman on Tue Mar 4 17:40:54 2014.

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When I was a kid, yes ... but it sounded way too much like strangling cats, so I took up keyboards instead. :)

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Re: Obama saysUS can't help Israel If Peace Talks Fail

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Mar 4 17:51:50 2014, in response to Re: Obama saysUS can't help Israel If Peace Talks Fail, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Mar 4 16:56:41 2014.

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Is your name Santa Clause?

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Re: Obama saysUS can't help Israel If Peace Talks Fail

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Mar 4 17:53:29 2014, in response to Re: Obama saysUS can't help Israel If Peace Talks Fail, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Mar 4 17:51:50 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Actually, because of the beard, I have to avoid malls entirely up until after the holidays because the little ankle biters insist that I give them gifts. :)

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Re: Obama threatens Israel

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Mar 4 17:56:32 2014, in response to Re: Obama threatens Israel, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Mar 4 16:41:15 2014.

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Outside of Fox News, you honestly don't believe there is a liberal bias?

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Re: Obama threatens Israel

Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Mar 4 17:56:45 2014, in response to Re: Obama threatens Israel, posted by chicagomotorman on Tue Mar 4 17:39:33 2014.

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Probably because of "conservatives" like "Morning Joe" Scarborough.

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Re: Obama threatens Israel

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Mar 4 18:01:10 2014, in response to Re: Obama threatens Israel, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Mar 4 17:48:43 2014.

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So you do agree that msnbc is liberal?

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Re: Obama saysUS can't help Israel If Peace Talks Fail

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Mar 4 18:04:21 2014, in response to Re: Obama saysUS can't help Israel If Peace Talks Fail, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Mar 4 17:53:29 2014.

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ha ha lol. uh I mean ho ho ho.

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Re: Obama threatens Israel

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Mar 4 18:05:19 2014, in response to Re: Obama threatens Israel, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Mar 4 17:56:45 2014.

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Morning Joe is no conservative.

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Re: Obama threatens Israel

Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Mar 4 18:09:55 2014, in response to Re: Obama threatens Israel, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Mar 4 18:05:19 2014.

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I know that. But when the left labels someone "conservative", they do everything they can to try to make the label stick.

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Re: Obama saysUS can't help Israel If Peace Talks Fail

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Mar 4 18:12:11 2014, in response to Re: Obama saysUS can't help Israel If Peace Talks Fail, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Mar 4 18:04:21 2014.

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No, Santa is NOT a ho ... though I am a bit concerned about Donner and Blitzen the rest of the year. :)

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Re: Obama threatens Israel

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Mar 4 18:13:35 2014, in response to Re: Obama threatens Israel, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Mar 4 17:56:32 2014.

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I'd have to pay attention to them to bother forming an opinion. I think ALL "instant news" is an anathema to journalism and therefore I refuse to participate in ANY of them.

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Re: Obama threatens Israel

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Mar 4 18:14:39 2014, in response to Re: Obama threatens Israel, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Mar 4 18:01:10 2014.

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I'd have to watch it to care. Olog says FOX News is all librul anyway, so I guess they all are. Still don't care. :)

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Re: Obama threatens Israel

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Mar 4 18:15:23 2014, in response to Re: Obama threatens Israel, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Mar 4 18:09:55 2014.

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Ummm ... there's a label on your chin there. No, the other side. :)

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Re: Obama threatens Israel

Posted by chicagomotorman on Tue Mar 4 18:18:57 2014, in response to Re: Obama threatens Israel, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Mar 4 17:15:54 2014.

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You of all people dont like msnbc?

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Re: Obama threatens Israel

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Mar 4 18:26:46 2014, in response to Re: Obama threatens Israel, posted by chicagomotorman on Tue Mar 4 18:18:57 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Why should I like any channel that does "instant news?" Especially one that does it so poorly? Just because I don't like republicans doesn't make me a democrat. And I live WAY upstate. Libruls like their cities. Olog's been on for years about pigeonholing people, I don't fit any of them.

Out where I live, politics just doesn't matter at all.

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Re: Obama says You caUS can't help Israel If Peace Talks Fail

Posted by Dave on Tue Mar 4 18:43:40 2014, in response to Re: Obama says You caUS can't help Israel If Peace Talks Fail, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Mar 4 15:29:58 2014.

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C'mon down to Texas and you'll find plenty (unfortunately).

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Re: Obama says US can't help Israel If Peace Talks Fail

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Mar 4 18:54:45 2014, in response to Re: Obama saysUS can't help Israel If Peace Talks Fail, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Mar 4 18:12:11 2014.

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And Rudolph.

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Re: Obama threatens Israel

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Mar 4 18:56:36 2014, in response to Re: Obama threatens Israel, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Mar 4 18:13:35 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
But you have watched Fox News long enough to form an opinion.

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Re: Obama says US can't help Israel If Peace Talks Fail

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Mar 4 18:57:12 2014, in response to Re: Obama says US can't help Israel If Peace Talks Fail, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Mar 4 18:54:45 2014.

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Nah ... Rudolph makes book. I'm not too worried about him. :)

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Re: Obama threatens Israel

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Mar 4 18:58:00 2014, in response to Re: Obama threatens Israel, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Mar 4 18:56:36 2014.

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Oh sure I have ... back when they first started. Then I watched CNN turn to shit. MSLSD came later.

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Re: Obama threatens Israel

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Mar 4 18:58:14 2014, in response to Re: Obama threatens Israel, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Mar 4 18:26:46 2014.

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Politics don't matter to you at all? You could have fooled me.

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Re: Obama says US can't help Israel If Peace Talks Fail

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Mar 4 19:04:13 2014, in response to Re: Obama says You caUS can't help Israel If Peace Talks Fail, posted by Dave on Tue Mar 4 18:43:40 2014.

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I hate to say this Dave, but any Republican who does not support the Tea Party, is a RINO.

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Re: Obama threatens Israel

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Mar 4 19:07:03 2014, in response to Re: Obama threatens Israel, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Mar 4 18:58:00 2014.

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MSLSD. lol

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Re: Obama says US can't help Israel If Peace Talks Fail

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Mar 4 19:07:11 2014, in response to Re: Obama says US can't help Israel If Peace Talks Fail, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Mar 4 19:04:13 2014.

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If you enforce that orthodoxy, your party will go the way of the Whigs.

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Re: Obama threatens Israel

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Mar 4 19:07:14 2014, in response to Re: Obama threatens Israel, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Mar 4 18:58:14 2014.

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They really don't, but righties cheese me off with the level of bullshit they bring, so I just GOTTA fuck with them. It amuses me. We hear all this "fair and balanced" nonsense, so I bring some fair and balancing here to counter it. I really could give a shit otherwise. Nobody's helping anyone out here other than each other ...

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