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Re: Fat governor as popular as ever

Posted by cortelyounext on Wed Jan 15 19:01:03 2014, in response to Re: Fat governor as popular as ever, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Jan 15 18:58:04 2014.

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Text corrected.

List of people who support abortion, or the murder of unborn babies:

Fred G
LuchAAA
Amanda
bingbong
Selkirk
SMAZZA
Rockparkman
Spider-Pig
JayZeeBMT
WMATAGMO
corTelyounexT
AlM
RIPTAhopetunnel42
PHXTUSskyharbor

Those against abortion include:

Easy
Olog-hai
Sergeant Jeff Rosen
Chiagomotorman


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Re: Stronger than the storm: Fat governor as popular as ever (in NJ)

Posted by italianstallion on Wed Jan 15 19:02:25 2014, in response to Stronger than the storm: Fat governor as popular as ever, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Jan 15 10:31:40 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Never underestimate the idiocy of New Jerseyites. After all, they elected the guy twice.

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Re: Fat governor as popular as ever

Posted by italianstallion on Wed Jan 15 19:05:19 2014, in response to Re: Fat governor as popular as ever, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jan 15 16:27:25 2014.

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"The state cuts them off when they decide it costs too much money. Not so charitable organizations,"

False. Charitable orgs will not pay forever either. They have a budget too.

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Re: Fat governor as popular as ever

Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jan 15 19:08:13 2014, in response to Re: Fat governor as popular as ever, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Jan 15 18:53:11 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
It's not a way of lowering crime. The liberal professors are lying to you.

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Re: Stronger than the storm: Fat governor as popular as ever (in NJ)

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Jan 15 19:08:42 2014, in response to Re: Stronger than the storm: Fat governor as popular as ever (in NJ), posted by italianstallion on Wed Jan 15 19:02:25 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
I think Chris Christie is Italian.

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Re: Fat governor as popular as ever

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jan 15 19:08:46 2014, in response to Re: Fat governor as popular as ever, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Jan 15 18:23:45 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
So? Apes look human too.

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Re: Fat governor as popular as ever

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jan 15 19:09:37 2014, in response to Re: Fat governor as popular as ever, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Jan 15 18:41:42 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Ape feti amazingly look like human babies too.

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Re: Fat governor as popular as ever

Posted by italianstallion on Wed Jan 15 19:10:10 2014, in response to Re: Fat governor as popular as ever, posted by Jeff Rosen on Wed Jan 15 17:14:15 2014.

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"Abortion is murder, period. "

Only if a fertilized ovum is a human being. It is alive, and is a potential human being, but many philosophers, even Christian ones, have believed that "humanness" arises some time after fertilization.

To believe that every fertilized ovum is human means that every unforced miscarriage (of which there are millions each year, most of which wind up going down the toilet) is a human death. If so, why aren't there proper funerals for them? Why aren't they named and remembered?

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Re: Fat governor as popular as ever

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jan 15 19:10:53 2014, in response to Re: Fat governor as popular as ever, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Jan 15 18:53:11 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
You might as well support the murder of actual humans since you see no difference.

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Re: Stronger than the storm: Fat governor as popular as ever (in NJ)

Posted by italianstallion on Wed Jan 15 19:12:45 2014, in response to Re: Stronger than the storm: Fat governor as popular as ever (in NJ), posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Jan 15 19:08:42 2014.

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He is half Italian, half Irish, and half-baked.

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Re: Stronger than the storm: Fat governor as popular as ever (in NJ)

Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jan 15 19:13:34 2014, in response to Re: Stronger than the storm: Fat governor as popular as ever (in NJ), posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Jan 15 19:08:42 2014.

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At least half-Italian. Mother's maiden name Grasso. Christie the surname is Scottish (or sometimes Irish).

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Re: Stronger than the storm: Fat governor as popular as ever (in NJ)

Posted by italianstallion on Wed Jan 15 19:16:32 2014, in response to Re: Stronger than the storm: Fat governor as popular as ever (in NJ), posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jan 15 19:13:34 2014.

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Wikipedia:

His father is of Scottish and Irish descent and his mother was of Sicilian ancestry.



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Re: Fat governor as popular as ever

Posted by italianstallion on Wed Jan 15 19:18:29 2014, in response to Re: Fat governor as popular as ever, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jan 15 19:09:37 2014.

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Many mammals' feti look like human feti at an early enough stage of development.

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Re: Fat governor as popular as ever

Posted by LuchAAA on Wed Jan 15 19:22:00 2014, in response to Re: Fat governor as popular as ever, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jan 15 19:10:53 2014.

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I do. I support the murder of home invaders(JayZeeBMT and others here feel you don't have a right to defend your home from an invader), violent criminals, convicted killers, etc........



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Re: Fat governor as popular as ever

Posted by LuchAAA on Wed Jan 15 19:23:14 2014, in response to Re: Fat governor as popular as ever, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jan 15 19:09:37 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
And I'm all for animal rights too.

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Re: Fat governor as popular as ever

Posted by Edwards! on Wed Jan 15 19:29:19 2014, in response to Re: Fat governor as popular as ever, posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Jan 15 18:28:26 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
I love how easy it is for you all to decide what constitutes human life.
Its NOT a baby until its born..its not a person until its born..it makes it so much easier for people to murder them when you are so morally..ethically detached.

At work..I'm sorely impartial..keeping my opinions to myself..but offering it ONLY if requested.

I dont need a medical study..or a team of wild stallions to tell me what to think as far as life or anything else is concerned..
I've personally dealt with the detached group at a hospital..offering this and that under the guise of "assisting us" during a difficult pregnancy..needless to say,if we had listened to them..our daughter would not be here today..nor would my beautiful grandson.
"Eugenics" is a blight on humanity..and pushed to keep OUR population in line.

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Re: Fat governor as popular as ever

Posted by SubwaySurf on Wed Jan 15 19:49:20 2014, in response to Re: Fat governor as popular as ever, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Jan 15 18:41:42 2014.

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You ought really seek professional help for that persecution complex of yours there, little brainless luchie. Thanks for the laugh. See ya

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Re: Fat governor as popular as ever

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jan 15 19:51:25 2014, in response to Re: Fat governor as popular as ever, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Jan 15 19:23:14 2014.

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But equal rights with humans?

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Re: Fat governor as popular as ever

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jan 15 19:52:33 2014, in response to Re: Fat governor as popular as ever, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Jan 15 19:22:00 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
None of that is murder.

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Re: Fat governor as popular as ever

Posted by LuchAAA on Wed Jan 15 19:52:56 2014, in response to Re: Fat governor as popular as ever, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jan 15 19:51:25 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Hugh Hewitt and Dennis Prager say "no", but I'm against animal testing and abuse.

But I won't let you change the conversation and w1n.

We're on the same page. We're pro-abortion.

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Re: Stronger than the storm: Fat governor as popular as ever (in NJ)

Posted by Newkirk Images on Wed Jan 15 19:57:30 2014, in response to Re: Stronger than the storm: Fat governor as popular as ever (in NJ), posted by italianstallion on Wed Jan 15 19:16:32 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
His father is of Scottish and Irish descent and his mother was of Sicilian ancestry.

Sicilian ?

That explains his temper !

Bill Newkirk


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Re: Fat governor as popular as ever

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jan 15 19:58:07 2014, in response to Re: Fat governor as popular as ever, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Jan 15 19:52:56 2014.

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I'm not opposed to animal testing if it helps and doesn't unduly abuse the animals.

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Re: Fat governor as popular as ever

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Jan 15 20:00:48 2014, in response to Re: Fat governor as popular as ever, posted by Edwards! on Wed Jan 15 19:29:19 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
I'm talking about terminology...an unborn fetus isn't a baby, and won't become one until it is born. A baby, conversely, isn't a fetus once it's born.

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Re: Fat governor as popular as ever

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Jan 15 20:05:45 2014, in response to Re: Fat governor as popular as ever, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Jan 15 19:22:00 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Stop twisting my words. I said I opposed those absurd "Stand Your Ground" laws. They're nothing but a license to hunt and kill minorities.

I also oppose capital punishment, because meting out such absolute punishment lowers us to the level of those we execute. We gain nothing by using violence to teach that violence is wring. On top of that, our justice system is not perfect...

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Re: Fat governor as popular as ever

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Jan 15 20:23:25 2014, in response to Re: Fat governor as popular as ever, posted by italianstallion on Wed Jan 15 19:05:19 2014.

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... and even there, specifically allocated funds for specific items. Even if they're awash in spare cash, once that line item is gone, it's gone.

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Re: Fat governor as popular as ever

Posted by bingbong on Wed Jan 15 20:31:20 2014, in response to Re: Fat governor as popular as ever, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jan 15 19:08:13 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
It isn't "liberal professors" that are telling him this,it's radio hatespeakers twisting around discredited studies until he hears what he wants to hear. The whole abortion crime relationship is bullshit.

Reproductive choices are up to the individual woman and those she decides to bring into her decision, as well as her doctor. The rest of everyone especially the government ought to STAY OUT of it.

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Re: Fat governor as popular as ever

Posted by LuchAAA on Wed Jan 15 21:19:39 2014, in response to Re: Fat governor as popular as ever, posted by bingbong on Wed Jan 15 20:31:20 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
"Listen and learn". That's what I say about The Hugh Hewitt Show. He's an Irish-Catholic who goes to two churches because of harassment from Irish-Catholic clergy.

But guess what bingbong, you can't spell America with "AM"! And there's not a single host on "the right" who supports abortion.

I base it on my experience as a former New Yorker, available statistics on crime in AMerica, who is having abortions, etc..........

My support of abortion has nothing to do with AMerican Radio. If anything, they should have been able to make me for against abortion in Florida.

Shows I'm not influenced by the Christianist element of the GOP.

So you l0se another thread.

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Re: Fat governor as popular as ever

Posted by Edwards! on Wed Jan 15 21:21:08 2014, in response to Re: Fat governor as popular as ever, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Jan 15 19:22:00 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Damn shame..the further this goes..the deeper you folks sink into madness.

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Re: Fat governor as popular as ever

Posted by LuchAAA on Wed Jan 15 21:26:34 2014, in response to Re: Fat governor as popular as ever, posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Jan 15 20:05:45 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
I won't fight with you. I'm afraid of you.



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Re: Fat governor as popular as ever

Posted by Edwards! on Wed Jan 15 21:30:17 2014, in response to Re: Fat governor as popular as ever, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Jan 15 21:19:39 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d

watching the "Evil Dead" right now..

As horrible as this "movie" is..its nothing compared to what I've been reading...and YOU folks Think you are still alive.

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Re: Fat governor as popular as ever

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Jan 15 21:34:42 2014, in response to Re: Fat governor as popular as ever, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Jan 15 21:26:34 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
You should be...LOL!

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Re: Fat governor as popular as ever

Posted by bingbong on Wed Jan 15 21:40:38 2014, in response to Re: Fat governor as popular as ever, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Jan 15 21:19:39 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
I could care less about "winning" conversations.

You support of choice has nothing to do with choice. You'd impose abortions on any woman you don't like if you could. That does nothing for the real issue of supporting women, respecting their choices and making whatever is needed for them to do so widely available to access in peace and privacy.

I'm well aware of what RW radio haters say. I'm also happy to see the forces that are working endlessly to drive them off the air. I have a lot of faith in our young people. They will put an end to this manufactured hate.



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Re: Fat governor as popular as ever

Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jan 15 21:40:53 2014, in response to Re: Fat governor as popular as ever, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Jan 15 21:19:39 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
No such thing as "Christianist", you were told already.

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Re: Fat governor as popular as ever

Posted by bingbong on Wed Jan 15 21:42:45 2014, in response to Re: Fat governor as popular as ever, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jan 15 21:40:53 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
No, I agree with Luch on this one. There's an element of the RWers that wants to establish a Christian version of the Taliban's Afghanistan here. That's likely who he means.

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Re: Fat governor as popular as ever

Posted by LuchAAA on Wed Jan 15 21:44:41 2014, in response to Re: Fat governor as popular as ever, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jan 15 21:40:53 2014.

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A Christianist would be someone working to overturn Roe v. Wade.

Or protest in front of an abortion clinic.

They vote as Christians. They are dangerous because they want obstacles in the way of abortion. Such people don't get it.

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Re: Fat governor as popular as ever

Posted by LuchAAA on Wed Jan 15 21:46:29 2014, in response to Re: Fat governor as popular as ever, posted by bingbong on Wed Jan 15 21:40:38 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Wrong again bingbong.

I agree with laws that prevent people from harassing abortion clinics.

Young people never listen to AMerican Radio. You get into it when you're older and wiser.

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Re: Fat governor as popular as ever

Posted by Edwards! on Wed Jan 15 21:48:10 2014, in response to Re: Fat governor as popular as ever, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Jan 15 21:44:41 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
you have no idea what a TRUE CHRISTIAN is.
but im glad that you think you do.

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Re: Fat governor as popular as ever

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Jan 15 21:49:26 2014, in response to Re: Fat governor as popular as ever, posted by bingbong on Wed Jan 15 21:42:45 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Yep ... and a good number of them got elected. :(

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Re: Fat governor as popular as ever

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Jan 15 21:50:22 2014, in response to Re: Fat governor as popular as ever, posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Jan 15 21:34:42 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Damn skippy on that! :)

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Re: Fat governor as popular as ever

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Jan 15 21:50:54 2014, in response to Re: Fat governor as popular as ever, posted by Edwards! on Wed Jan 15 21:48:10 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Well ... there IS Ashcroft's kids in Missouri. :)

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Re: Fat governor as popular as ever

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Jan 15 21:51:42 2014, in response to Re: Fat governor as popular as ever, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Jan 15 21:46:29 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
No, you get into it because AM used to BE something. And you remember it. :)

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Re: Fat governor as popular as ever

Posted by LuchAAA on Wed Jan 15 21:53:19 2014, in response to Re: Fat governor as popular as ever, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Jan 15 21:49:26 2014.

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Hugh Hewitt went off on Paul Ryan. Republicans vote to cut pensions of military by about $400 a month.

Yes, lots of Christianist politicians who would let their own wife die when an abortion might save her life.

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Re: Fat governor as popular as ever

Posted by LuchAAA on Wed Jan 15 21:56:14 2014, in response to Re: Fat governor as popular as ever, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Jan 15 21:51:42 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
I'm not that old.

It's important to listen and learn on The Hugh Hewitt Show.



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Re: Fat governor as popular as ever

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Jan 15 21:59:03 2014, in response to Re: Fat governor as popular as ever, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Jan 15 21:53:19 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Yep ... and over on the Senate side, the republicans buttfucked unemployment again. So much for their "we care about poverty" crap.

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Re: Fat governor as popular as ever

Posted by LuchAAA on Wed Jan 15 22:02:22 2014, in response to Re: Fat governor as popular as ever, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Jan 15 21:59:03 2014.

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Well the Democrats have been touting a "recovering economy" and want to extend unemployment benefits.

I just know what I see.

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Re: Fat governor as popular as ever

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Jan 15 22:03:08 2014, in response to Re: Fat governor as popular as ever, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Jan 15 21:56:14 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
More important to do your laundry and say your prayers. See? You're old enough. :)

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Re: Fat governor as popular as ever

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Jan 15 22:03:56 2014, in response to Re: Fat governor as popular as ever, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Jan 15 22:02:22 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
The economy has been recovering for the rich just fine. It's everyone else who's still getting screwed. :(

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Re: Fat governor as popular as ever

Posted by chicagomotorman on Wed Jan 15 22:08:59 2014, in response to Re: Fat governor as popular as ever, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Jan 15 18:58:04 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Ok, your point?

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Re: Fat governor as popular as ever

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Jan 15 22:12:17 2014, in response to Re: Fat governor as popular as ever, posted by chicagomotorman on Wed Jan 15 22:08:59 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
He has a scoreboard in his livingroom. Every now and then, he likes to see something on it. :)



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Re: Fat governor as popular as ever

Posted by LuchAAA on Wed Jan 15 22:12:57 2014, in response to Re: Fat governor as popular as ever, posted by chicagomotorman on Wed Jan 15 22:08:59 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
that's the list.

a List of Aviators should have been published today but wasn't.


but abortion is an old argument. i will support it forever.

keep in mind, if a woman has an abortion, and eventually has kids, what kind of mother will she be? if she can kill a baby inside of her, how will she treat her babies when they're born?

but I don't give a fuck. abortion has kept crime in check in the US. safer streets, for now.

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