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Re: We Are All Hunter and Mikayla Alford (born w/cancer, insurance canceled due to Ins.Co gaffe)

Posted by italianstallion on Fri Nov 29 11:13:02 2013, in response to Re: We Are All Hunter and Mikayla Alford (born w/cancer, insurance canceled due to Ins.Co gaffe), posted by Olog-hai on Fri Nov 29 00:47:47 2013.

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"Daily Mail right wing? "

Per Wikipedia:

"The Mail has always traditionally been a supporter of the Conservatives and has endorsed this party in all recent general elections."

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Re: We Are All Hunter and Mikayla Alford (born w/cancer, insurance canceled due to Ins.Co gaffe)

Posted by AlM on Fri Nov 29 11:14:54 2013, in response to Re: We Are All Hunter and Mikayla Alford (born w/cancer, insurance canceled due to Ins.Co gaffe), posted by italianstallion on Fri Nov 29 11:13:02 2013.

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The Conservatives are CINOs in Olog's view.

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Re: MORE BS We Are All Hunter and Mikayla Alford (born w/cancer, insurance canceled due to Ins.Co gaffe)

Posted by fwt9000 on Fri Nov 29 11:40:41 2013, in response to MORE BS We Are All Hunter and Mikayla Alford (born w/cancer, insurance canceled due to Ins.Co gaffe), posted by italianstallion on Thu Nov 28 21:28:54 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Obamacare is still ultimately responsible

1. Obamacare required states to upgrade their Medicaid programs
2. Child loses insurance because of upgrade

AFAIAC Obamacare is the ultimate cause. If a causes b and b causes c then a caused c

The changes to the Medicaid program would not have been needed if Obamacare was not passed. Therefore, there would have been no need to move the child to a new plan

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Re: We Are All Hunter and Mikayla Alford (born w/cancer, insurance canceled due to Ins.Co gaffe)

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Nov 29 12:02:37 2013, in response to Re: We Are All Hunter and Mikayla Alford (born w/cancer, insurance canceled due to Ins.Co gaffe), posted by Olog-hai on Fri Nov 29 01:50:49 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
I'm beginning to understand how you can take the stances you do. You've got a stuck reset line on input R ... probably a solder splash to ground.

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Re: MORE BS We Are All Hunter and Mikayla Alford (born w/cancer, insurance canceled due to Ins.Co gaffe)

Posted by italianstallion on Fri Nov 29 12:18:18 2013, in response to Re: MORE BS We Are All Hunter and Mikayla Alford (born w/cancer, insurance canceled due to Ins.Co gaffe), posted by fwt9000 on Fri Nov 29 11:40:41 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
We still don't know the facts. Beats me how an upgrade can cause loss of insurance. Still seems like Texas fucked up. It will be fixed, especially after the publicity.

By your logic, we should have not improved Medicaid for millions of the poor because one kid may have temporarily lost insurance due to some paperwork glitch.

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Re: MORE BS We Are All Hunter and Mikayla Alford (born w/cancer, insurance canceled due to Ins.Co gaffe)

Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Nov 29 12:20:21 2013, in response to Re: MORE BS We Are All Hunter and Mikayla Alford (born w/cancer, insurance canceled due to Ins.Co gaffe), posted by fwt9000 on Fri Nov 29 11:40:41 2013.

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1. NFIB v. Sebelius abrogated this requirement.
2. Texas is not participating in the Medicaid expansion.

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Re: MORE BS We Are All Hunter and Mikayla Alford (born w/cancer, insurance canceled due to Ins.Co gaffe)

Posted by AlM on Fri Nov 29 12:21:38 2013, in response to Re: MORE BS We Are All Hunter and Mikayla Alford (born w/cancer, insurance canceled due to Ins.Co gaffe), posted by italianstallion on Fri Nov 29 12:18:18 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Beats me how an upgrade can cause loss of insurance.

The upgrade caused the insurance company to decide that more processing was needed. That was their decision, but probably a reasonable one. But then they totally screwed up the processing, as insurance companies tend to do.

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Re: We Are All Hunter and Mikayla Alford (born w/cancer, insurance canceled due to ACA gaffe)

Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Nov 29 12:28:49 2013, in response to Re: We Are All Hunter and Mikayla Alford (born w/cancer, insurance canceled due to Ins.Co gaffe), posted by italianstallion on Fri Nov 29 11:13:02 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
That does not make them "right wing" whatsoever, any more than the gay-marriage-passing Tories (forgot about that, did you?) are "right wing".

Well, thanks for demonstrating that you hate kids with cancer.

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Re: MORE BS We Are All Hunter and Mikayla Alford (born w/cancer, insurance canceled due to Ins.Co gaffe)

Posted by bingbong on Fri Nov 29 12:31:40 2013, in response to Re: MORE BS We Are All Hunter and Mikayla Alford (born w/cancer, insurance canceled due to Ins.Co gaffe), posted by fwt9000 on Fri Nov 29 11:40:41 2013.

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SCOTUS determined states did not have to participate in any action related to Medicaid WRT ACA.

Texas is a non-participating state.

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Re: We Are Not Hunter and Mikayla Alford (born w/cancer, insurance canceled due to Ins.Co gaffe)

Posted by bingbong on Fri Nov 29 12:33:35 2013, in response to Re: We Are All Hunter and Mikayla Alford (born w/cancer, insurance canceled due to ACA gaffe), posted by Olog-hai on Fri Nov 29 12:28:49 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
You really ought to be asking why the government of Texas hates kids with cancer.

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Re: We Are All Hunter and Mikayla Alford (born w/cancer, insurance canceled due to ACA gaffe)

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Nov 29 12:33:52 2013, in response to Re: We Are All Hunter and Mikayla Alford (born w/cancer, insurance canceled due to ACA gaffe), posted by Olog-hai on Fri Nov 29 12:28:49 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Nah ... we just hate righties who use kids with cancer to score political points when it was the insurance agency that did it.

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Small Business section of www.healthcare.gov delayed for one year

Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Nov 29 12:53:09 2013, in response to Universal Health Care is HERE in these USA! Apply Now. www.healthcare.gov, posted by SMAZ on Tue Oct 1 13:19:06 2013.

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Associated Press

Latest health law delay: small business website

By Carla K. Johnson
Nov. 28, 2013 4:18 AM EST
Small businesses interested in buying marketplace health insurance plans for their workers will have to purchase them from agents, brokers or insurance companies for the next year, rather than through the government website.

The Obama administration, in yet another delay, is putting off the launch of its online portal to the health insurance marketplace for small businesses until November 2014.

The move, announced Wednesday, was needed because repairs are still underway to the troubled HealthCare.gov website, which is the primary way for individuals to apply for insurance, and that has priority, federal officials said.

The administration said the plan will still allow small businesses to buy coverage while avoiding a slowdown in technical repairs to the hobbled federal online site.

Under the law, most small businesses do not have to provide coverage. But companies with 50 or more employees face a mandate to offer insurance or risk fines from the government in 2015.

The HealthCare.gov site, where individuals without employer-sponsored health care can shop for insurance, is now smoothly handling 25,000 users at the same time and is on track to meet its goal of handling 50,000 simultaneous users by Saturday, administration spokeswoman Julie Bataille said. "We have a lot of work left to do in the next few days," she added.

The small business marketplace, also called SHOP, was supposed to provide employers a new way to shop for coverage. The website was to make comparison shopping easier while promoting competition and keeping premiums down. The delay, which doesn't affect states running their own marketplaces, was met with frustration.

"It's disappointing that the online portion of the federal small business marketplace through Healthcare.gov will be delayed, and it's important it get up and running as soon as possible," said John Arensmeyer, CEO of Small Business Majority, an advocacy group that supports the health care law. "However, it doesn't change the fact that the marketplace can offer the most competitive combination of price and quality for small businesses purchasing health insurance."

The National Retail Federation, which has been working to ease the law's requirements for its members, was less generous.

"If the law is so burdensome for the administration to implement, just think how hard it is for small businesses, which are focused on growing a company, hiring new employees and assisting customers," Neil Trautwein, the group's top health policy official, said in a statement.

Ohio's insurance director, Mary Taylor, a Republican who is also lieutenant governor, said in a written statement that the delay adds to the struggles of small businesses and "only further complicates an already chaotic insurance market."

Small businesses buying coverage will still be eligible for tax credits to bring down the cost, according to the administration. Starting next year, small businesses can claim a credit of up to 50 percent of their contributions to premiums for insurance purchased through the SHOP, and the administration is telling business owners that buying marketplace plans through brokers, agents and insurers will count for that tax credit.

Wednesday's setback was the latest in a stream of missed deadlines, including a postponement for a Spanish-language sign-up tool announced this week. The administration also recently pushed back the enrollment deadline for individuals: People who sign up by Dec. 23 can get coverage that starts on Jan. 1. In an earlier delay, businesses with more than 50 workers were given until 2015 to meet the requirement to provide health insurance without paying a penalty. And the deadline date for individuals to avoid penalties for failing to get coverage was pushed back six weeks.

Last week, the administration also announced a schedule change in next year's open enrollment season. It will start on Nov. 15, 2014, a month later than originally scheduled, and finish on Jan. 15, 2015, about five weeks later than originally scheduled. The midterm congressional elections are Nov. 4, and congressional Republicans accused the administration of shifting the dates for political reasons, to hide any spike in 2015 premiums.

The administration earlier had announced it will allow insurance companies to extend for another year coverage under individual policies that don't meet new coverage requirements. That move was a response to anger over a wave of more than 4 million policy cancellations.

The series of delays was seized upon by Rep. Sam Graves, R-Mo., chairman of the House Small Business Committee.

"In the midst of the angst and uncertainty that small businesses and Americans feel about Obamacare, today's news of yet another last-minute delay is just more proof that the law is unworkable and bad for small businesses," Graves said in a statement.

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Re: We Are All Hunter and Mikayla Alford (born w/cancer, insurance canceled due to ACA gaffe)

Posted by italianstallion on Fri Nov 29 23:21:56 2013, in response to Re: We Are All Hunter and Mikayla Alford (born w/cancer, insurance canceled due to ACA gaffe), posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Nov 29 12:33:52 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
IAWTP.

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Re: We Are All Hunter and Mikayla Alford (born w/cancer, insurance canceled due to ACA gaffe)

Posted by italianstallion on Fri Nov 29 23:22:13 2013, in response to Re: We Are All Hunter and Mikayla Alford (born w/cancer, insurance canceled due to ACA gaffe), posted by Olog-hai on Fri Nov 29 12:28:49 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Your jerkiness knows no bounds.

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Re: MORE BS We Are All Hunter and Mikayla Alford (born w/cancer, insurance canceled due to Ins.Co gaffe)

Posted by italianstallion on Fri Nov 29 23:23:00 2013, in response to Re: MORE BS We Are All Hunter and Mikayla Alford (born w/cancer, insurance canceled due to Ins.Co gaffe), posted by bingbong on Fri Nov 29 12:31:40 2013.

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Don't confuse them with facts.

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Re: We Are All Hunter and Mikayla Alford (born w/cancer, insurance canceled due to ACA gaffe)

Posted by Fred G on Sat Nov 30 05:44:16 2013, in response to Re: We Are All Hunter and Mikayla Alford (born w/cancer, insurance canceled due to ACA gaffe), posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Nov 29 12:33:52 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Pwned.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: MORE BS We Are All Hunter and Mikayla Alford (born w/cancer, insurance canceled due to Ins.Co gaffe)

Posted by bingbong on Sat Nov 30 11:16:37 2013, in response to Re: MORE BS We Are All Hunter and Mikayla Alford (born w/cancer, insurance canceled due to Ins.Co gaffe), posted by italianstallion on Fri Nov 29 23:23:00 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
But they're so much more fun when confused! They congeal into these bigger bubbles and make a loud pop when broken!

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Universal Health Care is HERE in these USA! Apply Now. www.healthcare.gov

Posted by SMAZ on Mon Dec 2 14:32:18 2013, in response to Universal Health Care is HERE in these USA! Apply Now. www.healthcare.gov, posted by SMAZ on Tue Oct 1 13:19:06 2013.

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bump

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HEY SMAZ!!! (Re: Universal Health Care is HERE in these USA! Apply Now. www.healthcare.gov)

Posted by cortelyounext on Mon Dec 2 14:45:29 2013, in response to Universal Health Care is HERE in these USA! Apply Now. www.healthcare.gov, posted by SMAZ on Mon Dec 2 14:32:18 2013.

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I was slumming it this afternoon watching the YES network, specifically Mike's On, when lo and behold what do I see? Manchester Unlimited or City or State something like that is playing Swansong in s-ccer. The YES network is rolling commercials for this fixture just like it is a real sport played by athletes. Are you going to watch this tilt?

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Re: HEY SMAZ!!! (Re: Universal Health Care is HERE in these USA! Apply Now. www.healthcare.gov)

Posted by SMAZ on Mon Dec 2 14:48:24 2013, in response to HEY SMAZ!!! (Re: Universal Health Care is HERE in these USA! Apply Now. www.healthcare.gov), posted by cortelyounext on Mon Dec 2 14:45:29 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Swansong

That's pretty good.

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Re: Universal Health Care is HERE in these USA! Apply Now. www.healthcare.gov

Posted by AlM on Mon Dec 2 15:28:43 2013, in response to Universal Health Care is HERE in these USA! Apply Now. www.healthcare.gov, posted by SMAZ on Mon Dec 2 14:32:18 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Round 2 is still to come.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/12/02/business/white-house-praises-gains-on-health-site.html

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Re: Universal Health Care is HERE in these USA! Apply Now. www.healthcare.gov

Posted by SLRT on Mon Dec 2 15:40:10 2013, in response to Universal Health Care is HERE in these USA! Apply Now. www.healthcare.gov, posted by SMAZ on Mon Dec 2 14:32:18 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Bump indeed. On October 1st you were saying "GOD BLESS PRESIDENT OBAMA" and perhaps 44.6% might have agreed with you, Obama's positive average rating on Real Clear Politics, though I assume some portion of those would not be conversant with religious fervor, except in the Stalinist or North Korean context.

Now it's December 1st his positive rating on that average of polls hit a new low of 40%.

Perhaps instead of GOD BLESS PRESIDENT OBAMA you folks should get together and sing "Nearer My God to Thee."

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Re: Universal Health Care is HERE in these USA! Apply Now. www.healthcare.gov

Posted by italianstallion on Mon Dec 2 16:14:17 2013, in response to Re: Universal Health Care is HERE in these USA! Apply Now. www.healthcare.gov, posted by SLRT on Mon Dec 2 15:40:10 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Omigod! His rating dropped all the way from 44.6 to 40!!!! The end is nigh!

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Re: Universal Health Care is HERE in these USA! Apply Now. www.healthcare.gov

Posted by SLRT on Mon Dec 2 16:16:17 2013, in response to Re: Universal Health Care is HERE in these USA! Apply Now. www.healthcare.gov, posted by italianstallion on Mon Dec 2 16:14:17 2013.

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Possibly.

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Universal Health Care is is not health insurance; www.healthcare.gov still has problems

Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Dec 2 19:09:08 2013, in response to Universal Health Care is HERE in these USA! Apply Now. www.healthcare.gov, posted by SMAZ on Mon Dec 2 14:32:18 2013.

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Still around 800K a day. Compare that to private-sector websites that can handle far more than that per second (if you can't handle 700 billion a day, you got a problem).

Reuters

Retooled Obamacare website traffic surges but problems remain

By David Morgan and Lewis Krauskopf
Mon Dec 2, 2013 6:48pm EST
A surge of visitors clogged the U.S. government's revamped healthcare insurance shopping website on Monday, signaling that President Barack Obama's administration has a way to go in fixing the portal that showcases his signature domestic policy.

Facing its first big test since officials proclaimed over the weekend that they had met their deadline to make HealthCare.gov run smoothly for the "vast majority" of users, the site performed markedly better than it did during its disastrous launch two months ago - but was still short of the crisply running insurance marketplace Obama once touted.

By 5:30 p.m. EST, the website had logged 750,000 visitors, the White House said, nearly the 800,000 daily users the refurbished site is supposed to be able to handle.

In states such as New Jersey, Pennsylvania, Alabama, Texas and North Carolina, the rush of traffic led to the deployment of a new feature on the site - a waiting page that said there were "a lot of visitors right now," and put people in line to be serviced, usually within minutes. By Monday evening, officials reported that the site was running smoothly, with no waiting.

That was significant progress for a website that has become the face of one of the biggest crises of Obama's administration, one that has undermined the Democratic president's promotion of an activist government and threatened to become a drag on Democrats in next year's elections, when control of Congress will be at stake.

But HealthCare.gov's hiccups on Monday fueled questions about whether it will be able to enroll several million uninsured and under-insured Americans in private coverage by the end of March. The Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act, also known as Obamacare, was passed in 2010.

More immediately, the website will be pushed further by waves of visitors seeking to sign up for insurance by December 23, the deadline to get coverage that begins January 1.

For all of the efforts by tech specialists to improve the site, officials still are scrambling to repair and install functions on the "back end" of the Obamacare system that are needed to finalize enrollments with insurers. That could create another headache for the administration starting in January, if the enrollments for some who sign up for coverage via the website are not finalized before their coverage is supposed to begin.

"The real challenges remain, and that's downstream," said Rick Howard, research director for the technology consultant Gartner. "The real error rate will be in the billing transactions and how accurate the billing information is and how accurate the premium calculation is."

The administration said that in meetings with insurers and healthcare officials this week, it will refocus attention on the functions needed to handle insurance payments, including federal subsidies for low-income consumers buying coverage.

Without those functions working properly, HealthCare.gov and websites for 14 state-run marketplaces could have difficulty operating in 2014.

America's Health Insurance Plans, an industry trade group, has said because of the system's administrative shortcomings, some insurers are receiving inaccurate or duplicative information about enrollees.

At the White House on Monday, Obama spokesman Jay Carney acknowledged that "the work is not done" on the website.

Carney added that the waiting page that some visitors saw was created in part because officials knew that Monday would put a strain on the system.

"We absolutely anticipated that on this day in particular, because it is the first workday after the deadline we set … to make sure that the website was functioning effectively for the vast majority of users, we would see a surge in visitors," Carney said.

Encouraging Numbers

For the White House and supporters of Obamacare, the encouraging news on Monday was that the pace of enrollments in healthcare programs has increased dramatically since October 1, when the administration's enthusiastic launch of HealthCare.gov was quickly tempered by problems with the website that allowed few people to enroll.

Preliminary government data indicated that about 100,000 people choose a health plan through HealthCare.gov during November, as officials and tech specialists scrambled to improve the site's capacity, according to a source familiar with the issue. In October, only about 27,000 had enrolled via the site.

The federally run HealthCare.gov site handles enrollments for 36 states. The 14 other states and Washington, D.C., have their own exchanges under Obamacare. The state-run exchanges have had fewer technical problems and generally are in states that are most enthusiastic about Obamacare, so their enrollments figures have been relatively high, including 80,000 in California and 50,000 in New York.

Official November data will be released in two weeks. But if the November estimate for HealthCare.gov enrollments is correct, it means at least 290,000 people have signed up for private insurance through the Obamacare exchanges.

That is still far short of the administration's projection in September that nearly 500,000 people would sign up through the insurance marketplaces in the first month, according to documents obtained by congressional investigators.

Ultimately, 7 million Americans were expected to sign up for private health insurance offered through the online marketplaces for 2014, according to the Congressional Budget Office (CBO).

The website's issues have put that goal in doubt, and administration officials have begun playing down the importance of getting 7 million enrollees in Obamacare for 2014. On Monday, Carney emphasized that the CBO, not the White House, that produced that estimate for total enrollment.

Enrollment Push

Nonprofit groups helping consumers enroll in Obamacare coverage said Monday they were encouraged by the improvements to HealthCare.gov and are starting new efforts to boost enrollment.

AIDS Alabama, which had been relying largely on paper applications to sign people up until last week, noticed major improvement in the website, said Lauren Banks, the group's director of policy and advocacy.

Banks said the website was still not working perfectly - the organization noticed a glitch last week that seemed to produce incorrect information about tax subsidies for low-income enrollees.

Jill Hanken, who runs an Obamacare enrollment program at the Virginia Poverty Law Center, said, "We're hearing more success stories" about the website. "I think things have turned the corner."

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Re: Universal Health Care is HERE in these USA! Apply Now. www.healthcare.gov

Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Dec 2 19:11:53 2013, in response to Re: Universal Health Care is HERE in these USA! Apply Now. www.healthcare.gov, posted by SLRT on Mon Dec 2 15:40:10 2013.

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pwn3d.

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Re: Universal Health Care is HERE in these USA! Apply Now. www.healthcare.gov

Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Dec 2 19:12:16 2013, in response to Re: Universal Health Care is HERE in these USA! Apply Now. www.healthcare.gov, posted by italianstallion on Mon Dec 2 16:14:17 2013.

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Meanwhile, when that happened to Bush, he was "way down". LOL!

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Re: Universal Health Care is HERE in these USA! Apply Now. www.healthcare.gov

Posted by Rockparkman on Mon Dec 2 19:24:07 2013, in response to Re: Universal Health Care is HERE in these USA! Apply Now. www.healthcare.gov, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Dec 2 19:11:53 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Maybe if we close and level a few "defense" plants to PERMANENTLY AND IRREVOCABLY reduce core military capability, we could afford the basic benefits of a civilized society. Jailing those who want us to be the world's policeman would help too.

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Re: Universal Health Care is HERE in these USA! Apply Now. www.healthcare.gov

Posted by chicagomotorman on Mon Dec 2 19:25:00 2013, in response to Re: Universal Health Care is HERE in these USA! Apply Now. www.healthcare.gov, posted by italianstallion on Mon Dec 2 16:14:17 2013.

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It will never get below 12%.

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Re: Universal Health Care is HERE in these USA! Apply Now. www.healthcare.gov

Posted by AlM on Mon Dec 2 19:36:07 2013, in response to Re: Universal Health Care is HERE in these USA! Apply Now. www.healthcare.gov, posted by chicagomotorman on Mon Dec 2 19:25:00 2013.

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That is a clearly racist post. You are saying blacks are too dumb to abandon Obama no matter how bad a president he might be.

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Re: Universal Health Care is is not health insurance; www.healthcare.gov still has problems

Posted by italianstallion on Mon Dec 2 19:41:25 2013, in response to Universal Health Care is is not health insurance; www.healthcare.gov still has problems, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Dec 2 19:09:08 2013.

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Why would the website need to handle 700 billion a day?

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Re: Universal Health Care is HERE in these USA! Apply Now. www.healthcare.gov

Posted by Rockparkman on Mon Dec 2 19:42:05 2013, in response to Re: Universal Health Care is HERE in these USA! Apply Now. www.healthcare.gov, posted by AlM on Mon Dec 2 19:36:07 2013.

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All Nazis are racist.

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Re: Universal Health Care is is not health insurance; www.healthcare.gov still has problems

Posted by italianstallion on Mon Dec 2 19:42:48 2013, in response to Universal Health Care is is not health insurance; www.healthcare.gov still has problems, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Dec 2 19:09:08 2013.

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Thanks for posting Obamacare success story!

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Re: Universal Health Care is is not health insurance; www.healthcare.gov still has problems

Posted by Rockparkman on Mon Dec 2 19:42:58 2013, in response to Re: Universal Health Care is is not health insurance; www.healthcare.gov still has problems, posted by italianstallion on Mon Dec 2 19:41:25 2013.

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He's using DOD type accounting.

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Re: Universal Health Care is HERE in these USA! Apply Now. www.healthcare.gov

Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Dec 2 21:57:35 2013, in response to Re: Universal Health Care is HERE in these USA! Apply Now. www.healthcare.gov, posted by Rockparkman on Mon Dec 2 19:24:07 2013.

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Maybe if we close and level a few "defense" plants to PERMANENTLY AND IRREVOCABLY reduce core military capability

. . . we'd be invaded? and/or the Hezbollah sleeper cells would wake up? You'd like that, wouldn't you rocKKKparKKKnaziamericahater.

Jailing those who want us to be the world's policeman would help too

You'd rather Hsi Chin-p'ing be the world's policeman? or Pooty-poot? or van Rompuy?

There's no alternative to Pax Americana barring the actual coming of the Messiah.

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Re: Universal Health Care is HERE in these USA! Apply Now. www.healthcare.gov

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Dec 2 22:25:41 2013, in response to Re: Universal Health Care is HERE in these USA! Apply Now. www.healthcare.gov, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Dec 2 21:57:35 2013.

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Sure there is! TAX CUTS ... China and Russia and the other places actually have functioning governments.

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Re: Universal Health Care is not health insurance; www.healthcare.gov still has problems

Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Dec 2 22:42:08 2013, in response to Re: Universal Health Care is is not health insurance; www.healthcare.gov still has problems, posted by italianstallion on Mon Dec 2 19:41:25 2013.

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Why shouldn't it, eh? Unless you're admitting that the government is incompetent.

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Re: Universal Health Care is not health insurance; www.healthcare.gov still has problems

Posted by italianstallion on Mon Dec 2 23:34:29 2013, in response to Re: Universal Health Care is not health insurance; www.healthcare.gov still has problems, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Dec 2 22:42:08 2013.

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So you favor the excess government spending that would be required to build an over-engineered website with a capacity far beyond that which would ever be needed?

You, sir, are a CINO.

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Re: www.healthcare.gov Functioning Properly as Olog's Post Confirms

Posted by SMAZ on Tue Dec 3 00:10:47 2013, in response to Re: Universal Health Care is is not health insurance; www.healthcare.gov still has problems, posted by italianstallion on Mon Dec 2 19:42:48 2013.

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Re: Universal Health Care is is not health insurance; www.healthcare.gov still has problems

Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Dec 3 00:38:14 2013, in response to Re: Universal Health Care is is not health insurance; www.healthcare.gov still has problems, posted by italianstallion on Mon Dec 2 19:42:48 2013.

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LOL, thanks for another stream of your unconsciousness, stupid big government lover.

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Re: Universal Health Care is not health insurance; www.healthcare.gov still has problems

Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Dec 3 00:38:33 2013, in response to Re: www.healthcare.gov Functioning Properly as Olog's Post Confirms, posted by SMAZ on Tue Dec 3 00:10:47 2013.

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You really hate the poor.

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Re: Universal Health Care is is not health insurance; www.healthcare.gov still has problems

Posted by italianstallion on Tue Dec 3 00:41:55 2013, in response to Re: Universal Health Care is is not health insurance; www.healthcare.gov still has problems, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Dec 3 00:38:14 2013.

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You make me laugh, you stupid big government hater.

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Re: Universal Health Care is is not health insurance; www.healthcare.gov still has problems

Posted by SMAZ on Tue Dec 3 01:25:43 2013, in response to Re: Universal Health Care is is not health insurance; www.healthcare.gov still has problems, posted by italianstallion on Tue Dec 3 00:41:55 2013.

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He is one of the biggest lovers of asphyxiating Big Government in every facet of life and in every role.

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Re: Universal Health Care is is not health insurance; www.healthcare.gov still has problems

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Dec 3 01:38:25 2013, in response to Re: Universal Health Care is is not health insurance; www.healthcare.gov still has problems, posted by SMAZ on Tue Dec 3 01:25:43 2013.

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Except that he always seems to expect big government running, guns blazing, every time he picks up a copy of the Daily Wail. :)

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Re: Universal Health Care is not health insurance; www.healthcare.gov still has problems

Posted by Fred G on Tue Dec 3 03:32:30 2013, in response to Re: Universal Health Care is not health insurance; www.healthcare.gov still has problems, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Dec 2 22:42:08 2013.

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The US Population is under 400 million.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: Universal Health Care is not health insurance; www.healthcare.gov still has problems

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Dec 3 03:41:29 2013, in response to Re: Universal Health Care is not health insurance; www.healthcare.gov still has problems, posted by Fred G on Tue Dec 3 03:32:30 2013.

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Right wing math ... probably thought it was a porn site which actually has to MANAGE that much traffic. :)

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Re: Universal Health Care is not health insurance; www.healthcare.gov still has problems

Posted by Fred G on Tue Dec 3 04:26:51 2013, in response to Re: Universal Health Care is not health insurance; www.healthcare.gov still has problems, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Dec 3 03:41:29 2013.

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Or Alzheimer's. Every day you gotta sign up again :)

your pal,
Fred

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Re: Universal Health Care is not health insurance; www.healthcare.gov still has problems

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Dec 3 04:46:16 2013, in response to Re: Universal Health Care is not health insurance; www.healthcare.gov still has problems, posted by Fred G on Tue Dec 3 04:26:51 2013.

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Heh. Yeah, that explains it. :)

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Re: Universal Health Care is is not health insurance; www.healthcare.gov still has problems

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Dec 3 05:02:22 2013, in response to Re: Universal Health Care is is not health insurance; www.healthcare.gov still has problems, posted by Rockparkman on Mon Dec 2 19:42:58 2013.

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Nah ... it's them damned burgers. :)

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Millennials turning against Affordable Care Act, trending less Democratic: Harvard poll

Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Dec 4 16:39:04 2013, in response to Universal Health Care is HERE in these USA! Apply Now. www.healthcare.gov, posted by SMAZ on Tue Oct 1 13:19:06 2013.

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Yes, a Harvard poll. They really are not as dumb as you look.

IOP Releases New Fall Poll, 5 Key Findings And Trends in Millennial Viewpoints

Key Findings

  1. Most Millennials Believe ACA/Obamacare Will Bring Higher Costs, Worse Care

    Among the 18- 29- year olds currently without health insurance, less than 1/3 say they're likely to enroll in the exchange (13% say they will definitely enroll, 16% say they will probably enroll); 41% say they are 50-50 at the moment.

  1. Student Debt Issues Transcend Political Party Affiliation
  2. Millennials Unsure About Snowden's Legacy: Most Oppose Government Collection Of Personal Information
  3. Significant Difference Between The Way Young And Older Millennials View Obama

Key Trends 2009–2013

  1. Millennial Views Of Obama Now Tracking With All Adults
  2. Young Millennials Trending Less Democratic
. . . et cetera.

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