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Republicans now blame Ted Cruz (R-Tx) for the shutdown |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Oct 2 20:04:30 2013 LOLOLOL!Since the Harry Reid gambit didn't stick as expected (would have helped if anybody had listened to the whole thing instead of carefully edited bullshit) now the blame game moves on to their own. Republicans eating their young once again ... and from the puppetmaster's own lips! :) "Cruz said he would deliver the votes and he didn't deliver any Democratic votes. He pushed House Republicans into traffic and wandered away." -- Grover Norquist, in an interview with Ezra Klein, saying Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX) got in the way of House Republicans in dealing with government funding. --- And a word of advice for the usual suspects in their hysterical dismissal of this story? Doesn't matter if the interview was in the new, right-leaning, Washington Post. What MATTERS is that it was Grover Norquist HIMSELF that said it! |
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MORE -Re: Republicans now blame Ted Cruz (R-Tx) for the shutdown |
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Posted by italianstallion on Wed Oct 2 20:09:42 2013, in response to Republicans now blame Ted Cruz (R-Tx) for the shutdown, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Oct 2 20:04:30 2013. Politico -- http://www.politico.com/story/2013/10/ted-cruz-blasted-by-angry-gop-colleagues-government-shutdown-97753.html?hp=t1_3Ted Cruz blasted by angry GOP colleagues A number of GOP senators blame the Texas freshman for contributing to the mess. By MANU RAJU | 10/2/13 7:31 PM EDT Updated: 10/2/13 7:49 PM EDT Ted Cruz faced a barrage of hostile questions Wednesday from angry GOP senators, who lashed the Texas tea party freshman for helping prompt a government shutdown crisis without a strategy to end it. At a closed-door lunch meeting in the Senate’s Mansfield Room, Republican after Republican pressed Cruz to explain how he would propose to end the bitter budget impasse with Democrats, according to senators who attended the meeting. A defensive Cruz had no clear plan to force an end to the shutdown — or explain how he would defund Obamacare, as he has demanded all along, sources said. Things got particularly heated when Cruz was asked point-blank if he would renounce attacks waged on GOP senators by the Senate Conservatives Fund, an outside group that has aligned itself closely with the Texas senator. Cruz’s response: “I will not,” according to an attendee. The closed-door Wednesday meetings hosted by the Senate’s conservative Steering Committee are supposed to be private, so senators interviewed for this article asked not to be named. “It seems that there is nothing the media likes to cover more than disagreements among Republicans, and apparently some senators are content to fuel those stories with anonymous quotes,” Cruz told POLITICO. “Regardless, my focus — and, I would hope, the focus of the rest of the conference — is on stopping Harry Reid’s shutdown, ensuring that vital government priorities are funded, and preventing the enormous harms that Obamacare is inflicting on millions of Americans.” But as the government shutdown heads into day three, a number of Republican senators privately blame the Texas freshman for contributing to the mess their party finds itself in. And now that they’re in it, they say it’s up to Cruz to help find a solution. “It was very evident to everyone in the room that Cruz doesn’t have a strategy – he never had a strategy, and could never answer a question about what the end-game was,” said one senator who attended the meeting. “I just wish the 35 House members that have bought the snake oil that was sold could witness what was witnessed today at lunch.” Over the August recess, Cruz made the rounds with conservative media and held rallies to call on his GOP colleagues to oppose any bill to keep the government running that would also continue funding Obamacare. As he won support on the right and among several dozen House conservatives, Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) agreed to include the Obamacare defunding provision in a bill to keep the government running past Tuesday. Cruz’s tactics culminated in a controversial 21-hour floor speech, where he derided many of his colleagues for lacking the courage to fight Obamacare. But because of complicated Senate procedures, he was calling on his 45 other GOP colleagues to filibuster the same House bill he endorsed — in order to prevent Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) from later stripping out that language. Including Cruz, just 19 Republicans backed his filibuster attempt, and Reid later killed the Obamacare language with just Democratic votes. At the Wednesday lunch, Cruz was asked what he would have done had GOP senators united to filibuster the House bill. “He kept trying to change the subject because he never could answer the question,” the senator said. “It’s pretty evident it’s never been about a strategy – it’s been about him. That’s unfortunate. I think he’s done our country a major disservice. I think he’s done Republicans a major disservice.” In the run-up to the Tuesday deadline to fund the government, Cruz continued to press the anti-Obamcare fight, lobbying House conservatives to stiffen Boehner’s spine despite the prospects of a government shutdown. The speaker responded with bill after bill taking aim at pieces of the health care law. But Senate Democrats rejected each one up until the final hours of Monday night, prompting the first government shutdown since 1996. Many Senate Republicans publicly and privately scoffed at the Cruz tactics, arguing that he was making a false and politically damaging promise that he could use the funding bill to gut Obamacare — since the law moved forward anyway on Tuesday despite the government shutdown. They argued President Barack Obama would never agree to gut his signature law. And they took great exception by Cruz and his allies in outside groups like the Senate Conservatives Fund to portray them as weak on Obamcare even though the party has furiously battled the law since the beginning of the president’s term in office. “The entire effort has been totally disingenuous,” the senator said. |
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Norquist now blames Ted Cruz for the shutdown (how unsurprising) |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Oct 2 20:16:36 2013, in response to Republicans now blame Ted Cruz (R-Tx) for the shutdown, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Oct 2 20:04:30 2013. Norquist matters nothing. He is a left-wing terrorist lover just like Peter King. Painting him as a "puppetmaster" is utterly laughable, unless you are referring to the RINOs, who are his puppets. |
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Re: RINOs blame Ted Cruz for the shutdown |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Oct 2 20:19:47 2013, in response to MORE -Re: Republicans now blame Ted Cruz (R-Tx) for the shutdown, posted by italianstallion on Wed Oct 2 20:09:42 2013. Hilarious that you still don't realize how far left Politico is. Or most of the GOP. |
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Re: RINOs blame Ted Cruz for the shutdown |
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Posted by italianstallion on Wed Oct 2 20:26:16 2013, in response to Re: RINOs blame Ted Cruz for the shutdown, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Oct 2 20:19:47 2013. You are delusional. |
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Re: MORE -Re: Republicans now blame Ted Cruz (R-Tx) for the shutdown |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Oct 2 20:45:31 2013, in response to MORE -Re: Republicans now blame Ted Cruz (R-Tx) for the shutdown, posted by italianstallion on Wed Oct 2 20:09:42 2013. The republicans have NEVER had a plan ... I've never seen such hapless and incompetent political leadership since I lived in the Bronx. :( |
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Re: Republicans now blame Ted Cruz (R-Tx) for the shutdown |
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Posted by Edwards! on Wed Oct 2 20:49:46 2013, in response to Republicans now blame Ted Cruz (R-Tx) for the shutdown, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Oct 2 20:04:30 2013. hah..the "Father" of the new age neocons calling them out.this is too much. |
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Re: Norquist now blames Ted Cruz for the shutdown (how unsurprising) |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Oct 2 20:54:32 2013, in response to Norquist now blames Ted Cruz for the shutdown (how unsurprising), posted by Olog-hai on Wed Oct 2 20:16:36 2013. Heh. So among all the other things you don't know shit about, you don't know about Grover neither, eh? :) |
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Re: RINOs blame Ted Cruz for the shutdown |
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Posted by Edwards! on Wed Oct 2 20:56:27 2013, in response to Re: RINOs blame Ted Cruz for the shutdown, posted by italianstallion on Wed Oct 2 20:26:16 2013. PWNED!Hes a sad little cellar dweller..who refuses to come out due to his fear of the sky falling. |
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Re: Republicans now blame Ted Cruz (R-Tx) for the shutdown |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Oct 2 21:03:39 2013, in response to Re: Republicans now blame Ted Cruz (R-Tx) for the shutdown, posted by Edwards! on Wed Oct 2 20:49:46 2013. The more these clowns shoot themselves in the foot, the funnier it gets. :)Pity none of these GOP'ers know what their own folks out on the midway call them when they pay their dollar and get their ball to shoot into that bottle back there. Heh. |
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Re: RINOs blame Ted Cruz for the shutdown |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Oct 2 21:06:04 2013, in response to Re: RINOs blame Ted Cruz for the shutdown, posted by Edwards! on Wed Oct 2 20:56:27 2013. Are you having as much fun as I'm having, cuz? :) |
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Re: RINOs blame Ted Cruz for the shutdown |
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Posted by Edwards! on Wed Oct 2 21:17:36 2013, in response to Re: RINOs blame Ted Cruz for the shutdown, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Oct 2 21:06:04 2013. LOL! YOU KNOW IT!They love the taste of crow,it seems..so i keep feeding it to em.. |
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Re: RINOs blame Ted Cruz for the shutdown |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Oct 2 21:25:28 2013, in response to Re: RINOs blame Ted Cruz for the shutdown, posted by Edwards! on Wed Oct 2 21:17:36 2013. The thing that amuses me the most is that they all seem to have that look on their faces when they got on the D train, headed for Church Avenue and they've looking out the window and the signs say "Tremont Ave." :) |
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Re: RINOs blame Ted Cruz for the shutdown |
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Posted by Dave on Wed Oct 2 23:07:38 2013, in response to Re: RINOs blame Ted Cruz for the shutdown, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Oct 2 20:19:47 2013. Oh, please. Cruz is a wart on the rectum of the GOP. |
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Re: RINOs blame Ted Cruz for the shutdown |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Oct 2 23:17:17 2013, in response to Re: RINOs blame Ted Cruz for the shutdown, posted by Dave on Wed Oct 2 23:07:38 2013. Yeah, but he's YOUR wart ... I must say, excellent babysitting on the part of the adults in that GOP. :) |
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Re: RINOs blame Ted Cruz for the shutdown |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Oct 2 23:40:02 2013, in response to Re: RINOs blame Ted Cruz for the shutdown, posted by Dave on Wed Oct 2 23:07:38 2013. Compared to McConnell? or McCain? In what context, really?You can admit to being a liberal now. You may as well. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Oct 2 23:40:53 2013, in response to Re: RINOs blame Ted Cruz for the shutdown, posted by italianstallion on Wed Oct 2 20:26:16 2013. . . . says the one reading the NYT and still thinking they don't lie out their wazoo. |
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Re: Norquist now blames Ted Cruz for the shutdown (how unsurprising) |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Oct 2 23:52:10 2013, in response to Re: Norquist now blames Ted Cruz for the shutdown (how unsurprising), posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Oct 2 20:54:32 2013. I think I know much more about Grover than you might. He's one of the left's, if not the Caliphate's. (The Islamic Free Market Institute? Come on.) |
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olog thinks Grover Norquist is a leftist |
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Posted by daNd124 on Wed Oct 2 23:56:28 2013, in response to Norquist now blames Ted Cruz for the shutdown (how unsurprising), posted by Olog-hai on Wed Oct 2 20:16:36 2013. that list keeps getting longer |
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Re: Norquist now blames Ted Cruz for the shutdown (how unsurprising) |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Oct 3 00:01:13 2013, in response to olog thinks Grover Norquist is a leftist, posted by daNd124 on Wed Oct 2 23:56:28 2013. If you're going to do that, then please explain how he's not, in light of his blatant support of Islamic terror and championing of open borders (the Communist Manifesto advocates the abolition of countries and nationality), never mind hobnobbing with George Soros. |
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Re: Norquist now blames Ted Cruz for the shutdown (how unsurprising) |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Oct 3 00:03:43 2013, in response to Re: Norquist now blames Ted Cruz for the shutdown (how unsurprising), posted by Olog-hai on Wed Oct 2 23:52:10 2013. He has set republican policy ever since 1985 at the behest of (drum roll, please) RONALD REAGAN ... his tax policies are still the core of the GOP stupid even after decades of him being proven wrong.So what you're saying here is that the republican party IS the caliphate and that Cruz and the rest of them are all doing the bidding of our enemies. I wish I could say I'm surprised, but I'm truly impressed that you're roping up the entire modern "conservative" movement in that nice package there. But if the main strategist of republican policy is a leftist, then instead of overthrowing the government, perhaps republicans should concentrate on overthrowing ... HIM. I'll wait ... :) |
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Re: Norquist now blames Ted Cruz for the shutdown (how unsurprising) |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Oct 3 00:14:34 2013, in response to Re: Norquist now blames Ted Cruz for the shutdown (how unsurprising), posted by Olog-hai on Thu Oct 3 00:01:13 2013. He's the head policymaker for the GOP with his pledge for America! Every single republican was required to sign and LIVE by it. Or else!Can you please explain to Train Dude and the other knuckle-draggers what it all means, Mr Natural? |
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Re: Norquist now blames Ted Cruz for the shutdown (how unsurprising) |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Oct 3 00:52:57 2013, in response to Re: Norquist now blames Ted Cruz for the shutdown (how unsurprising), posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Oct 3 00:14:34 2013. He's not that big in the GOP; only in the establishment wing. If he were, then the whole GOP would look like the Democratic Party. |
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Re: Norquist now blames Ted Cruz for the shutdown (how unsurprising) |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Oct 3 00:56:01 2013, in response to Re: Norquist now blames Ted Cruz for the shutdown (how unsurprising), posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Oct 3 00:03:43 2013. Doesn't not make him a mole for the left. He's been out in the open of late.And lest ye forgot, I don't regard Reagan as Mr. Perfect President. You must be a big Hannity fan. |
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Re: Norquist now blames Ted Cruz for the shutdown (how unsurprising) |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Oct 3 00:59:50 2013, in response to Re: Norquist now blames Ted Cruz for the shutdown (how unsurprising), posted by Olog-hai on Thu Oct 3 00:52:57 2013. Are you kidding me? The teabaggers are into his whole thing even bigger than the old timers. No, Norquist is everything that's wrong with the party and the new crazies adore him like a god. Ted Cruz is *so* done in the party now.I wouldn't give a crap about the republican party if I didn't grow up in it, and it pains me to see more stupid than I ever saw out of the liberatarians. :( |
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Re: Norquist now blames Ted Cruz for the shutdown (how unsurprising) |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Oct 3 01:07:45 2013, in response to Re: Norquist now blames Ted Cruz for the shutdown (how unsurprising), posted by Olog-hai on Thu Oct 3 00:56:01 2013. Heh. Nope ... Garrison Keeler was the last talk show I was interested in. :)But hey ... enjoy the neoconservative movement, you guys have a victory going on the last two days. I'd get drunk like the republicans in congress did before shutting it down and revel in the damage. Mission accomplished! :-\ |
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Re: Norquist now blames Ted Cruz for the shutdown (how unsurprising) |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Oct 3 01:21:47 2013, in response to Re: Norquist now blames Ted Cruz for the shutdown (how unsurprising), posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Oct 3 01:07:45 2013. enjoy the neoconservative movementNo such thing. The term was even made up by a Trotskyist. |
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Re: Norquist now blames Ted Cruz for the shutdown (how unsurprising) |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Oct 3 01:24:35 2013, in response to Re: Norquist now blames Ted Cruz for the shutdown (how unsurprising), posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Oct 3 00:59:50 2013. The teabaggers are into his whole thing even bigger than the old timersWhat do gay men have to do with it? (Oh right; the whole liberal thing has to work them in somehow. I bet they feel abused.) Norquist is everything that's wrong with the party Exactly. The liberalism and support for terrorists in particular. Time to purge the Norquists and the rest of the RINOs. Ted Cruz is *so* done in the party now Sure, if the RINOs turn on him. If they suddenly have the guts to, but so far they have not. |
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Re: Norquist now blames Ted Cruz for the shutdown (how unsurprising) |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Oct 3 01:44:44 2013, in response to Re: Norquist now blames Ted Cruz for the shutdown (how unsurprising), posted by Olog-hai on Thu Oct 3 01:21:47 2013. Ah well ... pity Francisco Franco is still dead ... you'll have to settle for Boehner. :) |
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Re: Norquist now blames Ted Cruz for the shutdown (how unsurprising) |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Oct 3 01:54:00 2013, in response to Re: Norquist now blames Ted Cruz for the shutdown (how unsurprising), posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Oct 3 01:44:44 2013. Yeah . . . the Norquistites stuck the House with Boner. The DNC couldn't be happier. |
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Re: Norquist now blames Ted Cruz for the shutdown (how unsurprising) |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Oct 3 01:54:14 2013, in response to Re: Norquist now blames Ted Cruz for the shutdown (how unsurprising), posted by Olog-hai on Thu Oct 3 01:24:35 2013. Oh stop it with the "gay men" herring. You know exactly what I mean, and that ain't it. "Send teabags to the White House" ... ain't MY fault that the chirpy newsblonde sat there congratulating "All those tea partiers out there teabagging America" the day of the big manufactured event on Faux Snooze. Deal with it, you and the rest of the sympathizers. That was YOUR Woodstock. :)As to the rest, every political party has a plan ... except for THESE guys. NO is not a plan for anything other than childish, destructive obstructionism. As to the RINO thing, each time the republicans get their asses kicked, they swing even further insane ... and yet it occurs to no one that perhaps THAT might be the problem. So yeah, lets swing even further to the right and go even more batshit, toss out the few remaining members of the party who knew how to govern at all ... yeah, that'll work! Heh. SERIOUSLY ... the last time the republicans had a shit fit on this level and shut it down, they lost BIGTIME. And they at least had Newt Gingrich then, who at least pretended some eloquence and stated his case for it to the American people ... it didn't wash THEN either. THIS time around, y'all have Ted Cruz as your spokesfish? LOLOL! |
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Re: Norquist now blames Ted Cruz for the shutdown (how unsurprising) |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Oct 3 01:56:44 2013, in response to Re: Norquist now blames Ted Cruz for the shutdown (how unsurprising), posted by Olog-hai on Thu Oct 3 01:54:00 2013. From what I'm seeing, DNC is exasperated. And so is pretty much everybody out here in America. Pro tip: That ain't "happy" ... |
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Re: Norquist now blames Ted Cruz for the shutdown (how unsurprising) |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Oct 3 02:10:45 2013, in response to Re: Norquist now blames Ted Cruz for the shutdown (how unsurprising), posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Oct 3 01:56:44 2013. They play it well. They play it very well. They regard this as the next best thing if they can't have the House by election. |
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Re: Norquist now blames Ted Cruz for the shutdown (how unsurprising) |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Oct 3 02:19:29 2013, in response to Re: Norquist now blames Ted Cruz for the shutdown (how unsurprising), posted by Olog-hai on Thu Oct 3 02:10:45 2013. Anyone who's spent ANY time observing the democrats knows FULL WELL that they are the "Special Olympians" of politics. They've always been a mess. No, the republicans are just SUCH fucktards since Reagan that all the dems have to do is just show up at all and they win.SHAME on you "conservatives" ... :( For DECADES, the republicans were completely out of power and yet they managed to lead from behind by sheer intellectual power. Now we're stuck with YOU guys and it pisses me off. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Oct 3 03:55:20 2013, in response to Re: RINOs blame Ted Cruz for the shutdown, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Oct 2 23:40:02 2013. You can admit to being a subhuman AHPOS and to being severely mentally ill. |
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Re: Norquist now blames Ted Cruz for the shutdown (how unsurprising) |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Oct 3 04:23:46 2013, in response to Re: Norquist now blames Ted Cruz for the shutdown (how unsurprising), posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Oct 3 02:19:29 2013. What conservatives? There are extremely few in government. What you are observing for the most part are liberals engaged in a divide-and-conquer tactic. The RNC and DNC are bastions of liberalism. |
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Re: Norquist now blames Ted Cruz for the shutdown (how unsurprising) |
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Posted by chicagomotorman on Thu Oct 3 04:28:10 2013, in response to Norquist now blames Ted Cruz for the shutdown (how unsurprising), posted by Olog-hai on Wed Oct 2 20:16:36 2013. Norquist has jumped the shark. |
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Posted by chicagomotorman on Thu Oct 3 04:33:06 2013, in response to Norquist now blames Ted Cruz for the shutdown (how unsurprising), posted by Olog-hai on Wed Oct 2 20:16:36 2013. Norquist has jumped the shark. |
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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Thu Oct 3 04:58:32 2013, in response to Re: RINOs blame Ted Cruz for the shutdown, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Oct 2 23:40:02 2013. Who isn't a RINO in your view? |
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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Thu Oct 3 04:58:59 2013, in response to Re: Norquist now blames Ted Cruz for the shutdown (how unsurprising), posted by Olog-hai on Thu Oct 3 04:23:46 2013. Care to identify the "extremely few"? |
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Re: RINOs blame Ted Cruz for the shutdown |
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Posted by Dave on Thu Oct 3 07:29:35 2013, in response to Re: RINOs blame Ted Cruz for the shutdown, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Thu Oct 3 04:58:32 2013. Attila the Hun. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Oct 3 08:07:26 2013, in response to Re: RINOs blame Ted Cruz for the shutdown, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Thu Oct 3 04:58:32 2013. His lapdog mcoriversaf. |
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Posted by Fred G on Thu Oct 3 08:11:08 2013, in response to Re: RINOs blame Ted Cruz for the shutdown, posted by Dave on Thu Oct 3 07:29:35 2013. Haha, my version has Ivan the Terrible.your pal, Fred |
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Re: Norquist now blames Ted Cruz for the shutdown (how unsurprising) |
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Posted by streetcarman1 on Thu Oct 3 08:38:35 2013, in response to Re: Norquist now blames Ted Cruz for the shutdown (how unsurprising), posted by Olog-hai on Thu Oct 3 01:24:35 2013. "What do gay men have to do with it?"Why do you INSIST on bringing up gay men and the Tea Bag Party? is there some DEEP OBSESSION you have there that you are obviously hiding from the rest of us? do tell us all. |
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Posted by Dan Lawrence on Thu Oct 3 08:46:30 2013, in response to Re: Norquist now blames Ted Cruz for the shutdown (how unsurprising), posted by Olog-hai on Thu Oct 3 04:23:46 2013. Boy are you wrong!! What about the Tea Party? They are ones in the GOP that are behind the shutdown!! |
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Re: Norquist now blames Ted Cruz for the shutdown (how unsurprising) |
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Posted by Dan Lawrence on Thu Oct 3 08:49:52 2013, in response to Re: Norquist now blames Ted Cruz for the shutdown (how unsurprising), posted by streetcarman1 on Thu Oct 3 08:38:35 2013. Because that's what Olog always does. He's a narrow gauge mind in a standard gauge world!! |
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Re: RINOs blame Ted Cruz for the shutdown |
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Posted by bingbong on Thu Oct 3 08:53:49 2013, in response to Re: RINOs blame Ted Cruz for the shutdown, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Thu Oct 3 04:58:32 2013. Vlad the Impaler? |
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Re: Norquist now blames Ted Cruz for the shutdown (how unsurprising) |
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Posted by bingbong on Thu Oct 3 09:00:18 2013, in response to Re: Norquist now blames Ted Cruz for the shutdown (how unsurprising), posted by Olog-hai on Thu Oct 3 00:52:57 2013. oh? Why does *every* republican sign his stupid pointless "pledge"? And get held to it for their lifetime in office? |
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Posted by AlM on Thu Oct 3 09:10:44 2013, in response to Re: RINOs blame Ted Cruz for the shutdown, posted by Fred G on Thu Oct 3 08:11:08 2013. No. Ivan the Terrible was a liberal. |
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Re: Norquist now blames Ted Cruz for the shutdown (how unsurprising) |
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Posted by bingbong on Thu Oct 3 09:11:54 2013, in response to Re: Norquist now blames Ted Cruz for the shutdown (how unsurprising), posted by chicagomotorman on Thu Oct 3 04:28:10 2013. That happened a LOONg time ago. |
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