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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Jul 16 15:19:46 2013, in response to Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?, posted by Train Dude on Tue Jul 16 15:15:33 2013. Yup. That's how the looney fringe on the left works. |
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Posted by bingbong on Tue Jul 16 15:28:14 2013, in response to Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?, posted by Train Dude on Tue Jul 16 15:15:33 2013. Not guilty is NOT innocent. Trayvon Martin IS innocent. Zimmerman killed a child. That death was unwarranted. That is NOT innocent.The calls for boycotting Floriduh are based on their laws, laws that make it unsafe for families as they allow murderers of children to walk away from their crimes. When those laws change, people and families will return. |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Tue Jul 16 15:44:52 2013, in response to Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?, posted by bingbong on Tue Jul 16 15:28:14 2013. steve wonder will not preform in FLORIDUH (florida) anymore !good for him !! |
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Posted by bingbong on Tue Jul 16 15:46:45 2013, in response to Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Tue Jul 16 15:44:52 2013. Let's see a lot more artists and musicians do the same. |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Tue Jul 16 15:47:34 2013, in response to Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?, posted by bingbong on Tue Jul 16 15:46:45 2013. iawtp ! |
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Posted by cortelyounext on Tue Jul 16 15:49:06 2013, in response to Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Tue Jul 16 15:44:52 2013. What up, Salaam? |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Tue Jul 16 15:58:27 2013, in response to Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?, posted by cortelyounext on Tue Jul 16 15:49:06 2013. one of his good songslike fingertips he did when he was really young : ) |
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Posted by WillD on Tue Jul 16 16:10:42 2013, in response to Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?, posted by Train Dude on Tue Jul 16 15:15:33 2013. Their inability to prosecute those who kill children speaks for itself. |
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Posted by Grand concourse on Tue Jul 16 16:21:16 2013, in response to Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?, posted by Train Dude on Tue Jul 16 15:15:33 2013. Truth, i don't get this hate towards the state as a whole. I go to florida at least once a year and never had any problems with the place. Boycotts are stupid. You don't like a place then just don't go. |
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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Tue Jul 16 16:25:21 2013, in response to Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?, posted by bingbong on Tue Jul 16 15:46:45 2013. Because such a boycott is going to accomplish so much good. Let me guess, you feel the same way about artists who perform in Israel? |
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Posted by bingbong on Tue Jul 16 16:29:39 2013, in response to Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Tue Jul 16 16:25:21 2013. Sorry, but as I'm not Jewish I refrain from all but the basic opinions on Israel, and that is that it has a right to exist. |
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Posted by Grand concourse on Tue Jul 16 16:29:45 2013, in response to Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Tue Jul 16 16:25:21 2013. +1 |
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Posted by WayneJay on Tue Jul 16 16:44:57 2013, in response to Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?, posted by Grand concourse on Tue Jul 16 16:21:16 2013. Truth, i don't get this hate towards the state as a whole. I go to florida at least once a year and never had any problems with the place. Boycotts are stupid. You don't like a place then just don't go.I can appreciate that all individuals are entitled to their opinion. That said, I think boycotts are not at all stupid, although the reason(s) may or may not be questionable. One of the most famous boycotts, the bus boycott of 1955/56 was very important, and thankfully, it resulted in some racist laws being ruled unconstitutional. |
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Posted by bingbong on Tue Jul 16 16:50:44 2013, in response to Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?, posted by WayneJay on Tue Jul 16 16:44:57 2013. If the government of Floriduh feels the weight of reduced finances, if business owners are stressed or go under causing job loss, if the people experience lost income and unemployment there will be enough of a hue and cry to force the government to rescind their stupid vigilante-enabling laws and make the place safe for families again. |
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Posted by mtk52983 on Tue Jul 16 17:08:18 2013, in response to Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?, posted by bingbong on Tue Jul 16 16:50:44 2013. So you will make poor families suffer (they are going to feel the brunt of the decreased finances) and are hoping they lose income and suffer unemployment? |
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Posted by WillD on Tue Jul 16 17:11:24 2013, in response to Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?, posted by Grand concourse on Tue Jul 16 16:21:16 2013. Boycotts are stupid. You don't like a place then just don't go.That's the exact definition of a boycott. |
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Posted by bingbong on Tue Jul 16 17:13:38 2013, in response to Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?, posted by mtk52983 on Tue Jul 16 17:08:18 2013. It's my true hope that they'll pack up and leave. Poor people tend to head to where jobs are faster than home and business owners can. |
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Posted by fwt9000 on Tue Jul 16 17:35:51 2013, in response to Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?, posted by Train Dude on Tue Jul 16 15:15:33 2013. How about we forget about real trials with real juries. Whenever there is a politically sensitive case the government should just have a Soviet style show trial with the verdict predetermined to satisfy the majority opinion on the case. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jul 16 17:41:34 2013, in response to Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?, posted by Train Dude on Tue Jul 16 15:15:33 2013. We didn't decide to boycott Florida when they bypassed the grand jury and charged George Zimmerman with murder.Again, Florida only uses the grand jury for charging with first degree murder, not second degree as Zimmerman was charged. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jul 16 17:44:44 2013, in response to Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?, posted by bingbong on Tue Jul 16 17:13:38 2013. It is expensive and difficult to move. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jul 16 17:46:11 2013, in response to Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?, posted by bingbong on Tue Jul 16 16:50:44 2013. If it's all about the state laws, then why does the jury verdict matter? The jury is not the trier of law. If this were really about getting Florida to change its law, you would have started the boycott when the incident happened and not now. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jul 16 17:48:29 2013, in response to Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?, posted by bingbong on Tue Jul 16 15:28:14 2013. Not guilty is NOT innocent.This isn't Scotland. Not guilty is innocent. Zimmerman killed a child. That death was unwarranted. That is NOT innocent. Killing isn't always a crime and unfortunately sometimes innocent people die. |
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Posted by WillD on Tue Jul 16 17:49:55 2013, in response to Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jul 16 17:44:44 2013. Eh, it's not like anyone actually owns a home in the Subprime Mortgage state. They can all just pack their stuff up on their horseless carriage, Joad-style, and set forth for more affluent, less ignorant states. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Jul 16 17:53:49 2013, in response to Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?, posted by mtk52983 on Tue Jul 16 17:08:18 2013. Since when do republicans, and the states that elect them, give a shit about poor families? :( |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jul 16 17:54:18 2013, in response to Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Jul 16 17:53:49 2013. You are better than they are. |
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Posted by bingbong on Tue Jul 16 17:57:36 2013, in response to Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jul 16 17:46:11 2013. 1) I didn't start the boycott. Outraged individuals canceled reservations last weekend and called for others to do so. THIW.2) Until the verdict happened,nobody knew how this would end. Now we do, now we boycott. |
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Posted by RockParkMan on Tue Jul 16 17:57:49 2013, in response to Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?, posted by Train Dude on Tue Jul 16 15:15:33 2013. Because the ideology common in Florida is a cancer which must be destroyed. |
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Posted by bingbong on Tue Jul 16 18:00:08 2013, in response to Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jul 16 17:48:29 2013. Wrong. If he hadn't killed the kid he'd as innocent as Mr Martin is. Nor were charges dropped, another sign of innocence.This particular innocent person did not need to die. Nor has he received justice for those he left behind. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Jul 16 18:01:48 2013, in response to Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?, posted by fwt9000 on Tue Jul 16 17:35:51 2013. Darrell Issa's been trying to get one together in congress to impeach Obama for nearly 5 years now ... can't even do THAT right. :) |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Jul 16 18:12:56 2013, in response to Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?, posted by Train Dude on Tue Jul 16 15:15:33 2013. >boycotting Florida
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jul 16 18:36:48 2013, in response to Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?, posted by bingbong on Tue Jul 16 17:57:36 2013. 1. You plural.2. LOL! A lot of us told you how it would end. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jul 16 18:38:32 2013, in response to Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?, posted by bingbong on Tue Jul 16 18:00:08 2013. Wrong. If he hadn't killed the kid he'd as innocent as Mr Martin is. Nor were charges dropped, another sign of innocence.By your logic, if a case goes to trial, the defendant is not innocent. Why even bother with a trial then? This particular innocent person did not need to die. Nor has he received justice for those he left behind. Unfortunate, preventable things happen all the time. |
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Posted by chicagomotorman on Tue Jul 16 18:52:15 2013, in response to Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?, posted by bingbong on Tue Jul 16 15:28:14 2013. Why do you hate your own race? |
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Posted by chicagomotorman on Tue Jul 16 18:53:20 2013, in response to Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Tue Jul 16 15:44:52 2013. Have you ever seen his kids? |
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Posted by chicagomotorman on Tue Jul 16 18:55:55 2013, in response to Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Tue Jul 16 15:44:52 2013. Have you ever seen his kids? |
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Posted by chicagomotorman on Tue Jul 16 18:55:56 2013, in response to Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?, posted by bingbong on Tue Jul 16 15:28:14 2013. Why do you hate your own race? |
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Posted by daNd124 on Tue Jul 16 18:56:29 2013, in response to Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?, posted by chicagomotorman on Tue Jul 16 18:52:15 2013. this isn't about race |
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Posted by chicagomotorman on Tue Jul 16 18:57:52 2013, in response to Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?, posted by daNd124 on Tue Jul 16 18:56:29 2013. Like hell it aint. |
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Posted by bingbong on Tue Jul 16 19:04:33 2013, in response to Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jul 16 18:36:48 2013. 1) As the number of voices for boycott grows, the more effective the boycott will be.2) "You" are a bunch of basically New Yorkers, with a smattering of Floriduhans. No jury members on this board. Not what I'd say is credible assessments, too tainted by RW politics. |
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Posted by bingbong on Tue Jul 16 19:05:42 2013, in response to Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?, posted by chicagomotorman on Tue Jul 16 18:55:56 2013. LOL. That question does not merit an answer. |
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Posted by daNd124 on Tue Jul 16 19:07:19 2013, in response to Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?, posted by bingbong on Tue Jul 16 19:04:33 2013. "You" are a bunch of basically New Yorkers, with a smattering of Floriduhans. No jury members on this board. Not what I'd say is credible assessments, too tainted by RW politics.none of the people who were arguing with are right wingers. |
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Posted by Dave on Tue Jul 16 19:08:02 2013, in response to Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Jul 16 18:12:56 2013. +1 |
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Posted by chicagomotorman on Tue Jul 16 19:10:14 2013, in response to Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?, posted by bingbong on Tue Jul 16 19:05:42 2013. White uncle tom. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jul 16 19:10:43 2013, in response to Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?, posted by bingbong on Tue Jul 16 19:04:33 2013. 1. That has nothing to do with my point? Why start the boycott now?2. "We" looked at the law and the evidence in figuring out that Zimmerman would be acquitted, not emotion or personal preferences. |
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Posted by chicagomotorman on Tue Jul 16 19:12:34 2013, in response to Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?, posted by daNd124 on Tue Jul 16 18:56:29 2013. Like hell it aint. |
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Posted by bingbong on Tue Jul 16 19:14:23 2013, in response to Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jul 16 18:38:32 2013. This is a different case. Zimmerman admitted from the beginning that he DID kill MO Martin. There is no way any killer can be considered innocent of anything, killing a living breathing human being the supreme violent act. Killing a child is apparently not criminal in Floriduh if one can somehow claim they feared bodily harm (not even possible loss of life).Curious that you say nothing about justice for the victim's family. |
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Posted by daNd124 on Tue Jul 16 19:21:51 2013, in response to Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?, posted by bingbong on Tue Jul 16 19:14:23 2013. Killing a child is apparently not criminal in Floriduh if one can somehow claim they feared bodily harm (not even possible loss of life).that's true in every other state as well, the only thing different is duty to retreat which does not apply to this case. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jul 16 19:23:26 2013, in response to Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?, posted by bingbong on Tue Jul 16 19:14:23 2013. Killing a person is not always illegal and is not the "supreme violent act." People can kill in self-defense.You obviously didn't bother researching the "great bodily harm" standard in Florida. Characterizing it as only bodily harm is disingenuous. |
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Posted by bingbong on Tue Jul 16 19:26:06 2013, in response to Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?, posted by daNd124 on Tue Jul 16 19:07:19 2013. You're one. Modern libertarians are all RWers. Nothing liberal about Rand Paul or his Daddy, Googleron. |
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