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Posted by AlM on Thu Jul 4 19:08:13 2013, in response to Re: the law firm of Moreira & bingobong, posted by daNd124 on Thu Jul 4 18:59:15 2013. Lots of inconsistencies in his statements that are evidence. |
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Posted by daNd124 on Thu Jul 4 19:09:44 2013, in response to Re: the law firm of Moreira & bingobong, posted by AlM on Thu Jul 4 19:07:17 2013. if i say something that you disagree with, i respond by attacking you and you harm me in self defense that doesn't make your initial speech reckless. |
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Posted by AlM on Thu Jul 4 19:10:55 2013, in response to Re: the law firm of Moreira & bingobong, posted by daNd124 on Thu Jul 4 19:07:33 2013. And if Martin started the fight because Zimmerman was recklessly stalking him? |
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Posted by daNd124 on Thu Jul 4 19:11:45 2013, in response to Re: the law firm of Moreira & bingobong, posted by AlM on Thu Jul 4 19:10:55 2013. Zimmerman's actions were not stalking under Florida law. |
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Posted by AlM on Thu Jul 4 19:12:53 2013, in response to Re: the law firm of Moreira & bingobong, posted by daNd124 on Thu Jul 4 19:11:45 2013. OK, change "stalking" to "following".And there is evidence that Zimmerman started the fight. It's just there's evidence both ways. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Jul 4 19:15:04 2013, in response to Re: the law firm of Moreira & bingobong, posted by daNd124 on Thu Jul 4 19:07:33 2013. And if he'd just listened to the dispatcher who told him, "we don't need you to do that" then both would probably be eating skittles today. |
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Posted by daNd124 on Thu Jul 4 19:15:30 2013, in response to Re: the law firm of Moreira & bingobong, posted by AlM on Thu Jul 4 19:12:53 2013. OK, change "stalking" to "following".fallowing Martin didn't not place Martin in any danger it was martin's response to being followed that put him in danger. And there is evidence that Zimmerman started the fight. really what evidence is that? |
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Posted by daNd124 on Thu Jul 4 19:16:40 2013, in response to Re: the law firm of Moreira & bingobong, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Jul 4 19:15:04 2013. that doesn't mean he did anything illegal. i notice a pattern the actions of Zimmerman the people focus on are all legal. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Jul 4 19:20:47 2013, in response to Re: the law firm of Moreira & bingobong, posted by daNd124 on Thu Jul 4 19:16:40 2013. Am I saying he did anything illegal? No ... I insist that he definitely went felony stupid though. Had he just listened, he wouldn't be on TV. |
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Posted by AlM on Thu Jul 4 19:23:05 2013, in response to Re: the law firm of Moreira & bingobong, posted by daNd124 on Thu Jul 4 19:15:30 2013. Well, it turns out that following Martin very much put him in danger. And the girlfriend testified that Martin was scared of this guy following him. It's evidence, even if not conclusive. |
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Posted by AlM on Thu Jul 4 19:26:30 2013, in response to Re: the law firm of Moreira & bingobong, posted by daNd124 on Thu Jul 4 19:16:40 2013. Reckless conduct can be legal until it kills someone.For example, driving the speed limit on an icy road. |
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Posted by daNd124 on Thu Jul 4 19:26:34 2013, in response to Re: the law firm of Moreira & bingobong, posted by AlM on Thu Jul 4 19:23:05 2013. Well, it turns out that following Martin very much put him in danger.that was Matrin's reaction to being followed not being followed in and of itself. it's like the speech analogy i posted earlier. |
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Posted by daNd124 on Thu Jul 4 19:27:15 2013, in response to Re: the law firm of Moreira & bingobong, posted by AlM on Thu Jul 4 19:26:30 2013. but that puts other people in and of itself. |
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Posted by AlM on Thu Jul 4 19:30:46 2013, in response to Re: the law firm of Moreira & bingobong, posted by daNd124 on Thu Jul 4 19:16:40 2013. Homicide doesn't require a predecessor illegal act.Suppose a man expects his wife home from a business trip Tuesday evening but instead she gets home Tuesday morning at 2 AM. He is wakened up by what he believes is an intruder in the house. He gets out his gun and shoots the intruder. He has not done anything illegal until he pulls the trigger. |
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Posted by daNd124 on Thu Jul 4 19:34:54 2013, in response to Re: the law firm of Moreira & bingobong, posted by AlM on Thu Jul 4 19:30:46 2013. how is that in any way related to the Zimmerman case? if Zimmerman threw the first punch or grabbed Martin to prevent him from running away than he is guilty, he may have done that but there is no evidence. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Thu Jul 4 19:46:52 2013, in response to Re: the law firm of Moreira & bingobong, posted by AlM on Thu Jul 4 19:23:05 2013. Seems that Martin felt threatened and was faced with the classic "flight or fight" dilemma. He chose to fight the smaller, "Cracker" MF, never considering the possibility that he was armed. He made a very bad decision. Mr. Martin was certainly not known to make good decisions in the past, either, having been suspended from school at least 3 times. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jul 4 19:53:26 2013, in response to Re: the law firm of Moreira & bingobong, posted by AlM on Thu Jul 4 19:26:30 2013. Recklessly putting others in danger of serious injury or death is the crime of reckless endangerment. |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Thu Jul 4 19:53:55 2013, in response to Re: the law firm of Moreira & bingobong, posted by Train Dude on Thu Jul 4 19:46:52 2013. lets put mr martin on trial not Zimmerman |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jul 4 19:57:31 2013, in response to Re: the law firm of Moreira & bingobong, posted by AlM on Thu Jul 4 19:30:46 2013. That's only a crime if he was not justified in assuming anyone who enters his room that late is an intruder. |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Thu Jul 4 19:57:41 2013, in response to Re: the law firm of Moreira & bingobong, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Jul 4 18:58:42 2013. lol |
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Posted by Train Dude on Thu Jul 4 20:08:08 2013, in response to Re: the law firm of Moreira & bingobong, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Thu Jul 4 19:53:55 2013. Not possible since he's deceased. However, do you think that his prior bad acts as well as his possible culpability in this incident should be ignored? |
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Posted by Train Dude on Thu Jul 4 20:09:02 2013, in response to Re: the law firm of Moreira & bingobong, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Thu Jul 4 19:57:41 2013. He was referring to you so why do you think it's funny? |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Jul 4 20:20:07 2013, in response to Re: the law firm of Moreira & bingobong, posted by Train Dude on Thu Jul 4 20:08:08 2013. Absolutely. Did Zimmerman have the DNA samples and the NCIC terminal in his jacket to determine that? |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Jul 4 20:26:10 2013, in response to Re: the law firm of Moreira & bingobong, posted by Train Dude on Thu Jul 4 20:09:02 2013. Nope. Wasn't him I meant.
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Posted by AlM on Thu Jul 4 20:36:33 2013, in response to Re: the law firm of Moreira & bingobong, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jul 4 19:57:31 2013. Well, obviously he wasn't justified, since in that example it wasn't an intruder. |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Thu Jul 4 20:43:11 2013, in response to Re: the law firm of Moreira & bingobong, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Jul 4 20:26:10 2013. lol! |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Thu Jul 4 20:44:04 2013, in response to Re: the law firm of Moreira & bingobong, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Jul 4 20:20:07 2013. right on |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Thu Jul 4 20:47:37 2013, in response to Re: the law firm of Moreira & bingobong, posted by Train Dude on Thu Jul 4 20:08:08 2013. martin is a murder victim ! that's all there is to it period |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Jul 4 20:58:56 2013, in response to Re: the law firm of Moreira & bingobong, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Thu Jul 4 20:44:04 2013. As Cosby used to put it, "it's the brain ... damage." Never knew there were so many white crack babies. :) |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Thu Jul 4 20:59:25 2013, in response to Re: the law firm of Moreira & bingobong, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Jul 4 20:58:56 2013. yeah |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Jul 4 21:03:10 2013, in response to Re: the law firm of Moreira & bingobong, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Thu Jul 4 20:59:25 2013. I love how these assclowns are begging for riots and such. I mean shit ... can't they just get on a plane and go to Syria or something? :-\ |
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Posted by Train Dude on Thu Jul 4 21:04:27 2013, in response to Re: the law firm of Moreira & bingobong, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Thu Jul 4 20:47:37 2013. And we have yous and the asshole from Glenmont's word on that? |
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Posted by daNd124 on Thu Jul 4 21:05:41 2013, in response to Re: the law firm of Moreira & bingobong, posted by AlM on Thu Jul 4 20:36:33 2013. if he reasonably believed it was an intruder he was justified. |
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Posted by cortelyounext on Thu Jul 4 21:07:23 2013, in response to Re: the law firm of Moreira & bingobong, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Jul 4 21:03:10 2013. Text corrected.I love how these assclowns are begging for riots and such. I mean shit ... can't they just get on a boat and go to Syria or something? :-\ |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Jul 4 21:09:19 2013, in response to Re: the law firm of Moreira & bingobong, posted by Train Dude on Thu Jul 4 21:04:27 2013. Can't you even stick to the proper republican dogma? I mean really ... Zimmerman is Hispanic fer krissakes. Shouldn't he be deported or shot? :) |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Jul 4 21:10:13 2013, in response to Re: the law firm of Moreira & bingobong, posted by cortelyounext on Thu Jul 4 21:07:23 2013. Point taken. However, I believe assclowns SHOULD be stuck in a metal tube. Without cart service. :) |
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Posted by daNd124 on Thu Jul 4 21:10:45 2013, in response to Re: the law firm of Moreira & bingobong, posted by Dan Lawrence on Thu Jul 4 10:36:55 2013. Show the truth!!it's true bingbong say so |
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Posted by bingbong on Thu Jul 4 21:12:21 2013, in response to Re: the law firm of Moreira & bingobong, posted by daNd124 on Thu Jul 4 21:05:41 2013. Not if the person was with his wife, who is an equal householder. The person is therefore a guest. |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Thu Jul 4 21:13:11 2013, in response to Re: the law firm of Moreira & bingobong, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Jul 4 21:10:13 2013. lol |
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Posted by daNd124 on Thu Jul 4 21:14:28 2013, in response to Re: the law firm of Moreira & bingobong, posted by bingbong on Thu Jul 4 21:12:21 2013. if the person reasonably mistook his wife for an intruder it's justified. |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Thu Jul 4 21:14:28 2013, in response to Re: the law firm of Moreira & bingobong, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Jul 4 21:09:19 2013. good point |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Jul 4 21:15:27 2013, in response to Re: the law firm of Moreira & bingobong, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Thu Jul 4 21:13:11 2013. I'm all worked up! :) |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Jul 4 21:16:41 2013, in response to Re: the law firm of Moreira & bingobong, posted by daNd124 on Thu Jul 4 21:14:28 2013. Oscar Pistorius: not guilcup! :) |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Jul 4 21:17:29 2013, in response to Re: the law firm of Moreira & bingobong, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Thu Jul 4 21:14:28 2013. And folks wonder why I don't have premium cable ... hell ... much better entertainment here watching republicans trip over their dicks. :) |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Thu Jul 4 21:18:53 2013, in response to Re: the law firm of Moreira & bingobong, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Jul 4 21:17:29 2013. I don't have cable tv eitherjust whatever I can get off the air lol |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Jul 4 21:20:21 2013, in response to Re: the law firm of Moreira & bingobong, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Thu Jul 4 21:18:53 2013. This is even better than CBS! :) |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Thu Jul 4 21:20:34 2013, in response to Re: the law firm of Moreira & bingobong, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Jul 4 21:15:27 2013. go get em tiger |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Thu Jul 4 21:21:46 2013, in response to Re: the law firm of Moreira & bingobong, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Jul 4 21:20:21 2013. yea except for missing some baseball games I would like to see not having cable tv is not all that bad |
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Posted by Train Dude on Thu Jul 4 21:24:17 2013, in response to Re: the law firm of Moreira & bingobong, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Thu Jul 4 21:21:46 2013. So stop complaining. Lots of unemployed people don't have cable. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Jul 4 21:26:59 2013, in response to Re: the law firm of Moreira & bingobong, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Thu Jul 4 21:21:46 2013. Yeah, but if I was to watch them, it'd only encourage them. :) |
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