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GOP Rep. King Introduces Bill To End Birthright Citizenship |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Jan 6 15:28:49 2013 Rep. Steve King (R-Iowa), one of Congess' biggest xenophobes, has introduced a bill that would effectively gut the Fourteenth Amendment's guarantee of birthright citizenship. King's proposed law, based on his view of the Constitution, is aimed squarely at children of undocumented immigrants who are born here.The Fourteenth Amendment holds that "all persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside." Over the years, the Supreme Court has reaffirmed that definition many times, even ruling that the immigration status of a US-born baby's parents are not an issue with regard to the citizenship of the baby. Further, US policy holds that a baby born on a ship in US waters, or on an airplane flying over US airspace, even if the plane never lands in the US, is an American citizen. (All Mommy or Daddy has to do is file for a birth certificate from the state over which the baby was born). But, hey, the Constitution isn't an impediment to our GOP friends, now is it? |
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Posted by AlM on Sun Jan 6 15:41:36 2013, in response to GOP Rep. King Introduces Bill To End Birthright Citizenship, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Jan 6 15:28:49 2013. You have t look at what's most important for him. I'm sure it will help keep him safe in the 2014 primary. |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Jan 6 15:43:40 2013, in response to Re: GOP Rep. King Introduces Bill To End Birthright Citizenship, posted by AlM on Sun Jan 6 15:41:36 2013. Still, introducing a bill to gut a Constitutional Amendment is not what we need from members of Congress. King's bill is clearly aimed at the growing political influence of the Latino community. |
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Posted by bingbong on Sun Jan 6 15:45:05 2013, in response to Re: GOP Rep. King Introduces Bill To End Birthright Citizenship, posted by AlM on Sun Jan 6 15:41:36 2013. That's all it's about. Even Turtleman McConnell is nervous. Look at what he said today on the talkers. He threw the next fiscal cliff negotiation under the bus. |
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Re: GOP Rep. King Introduces Bill To End Birthright Citizenship |
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Posted by Fred G on Sun Jan 6 15:48:56 2013, in response to GOP Rep. King Introduces Bill To End Birthright Citizenship, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Jan 6 15:28:49 2013. Kind of a Bizarro way to curry the Hispanic or Asian vote.your pal, Fred |
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Re: GOP Rep. King Introduces Bill To End Birthright Citizenship |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Jan 6 15:56:01 2013, in response to Re: GOP Rep. King Introduces Bill To End Birthright Citizenship, posted by Fred G on Sun Jan 6 15:48:56 2013. He's trying to limit future minority votes by denying birthright citizenship to future potential minority (i.e., mostly Democratic) voters. |
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Posted by Fred G on Sun Jan 6 16:11:00 2013, in response to Re: GOP Rep. King Introduces Bill To End Birthright Citizenship, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Jan 6 15:56:01 2013. As for the shift in demographics, somebody should tell him the sex is over and the cigarette's already been put out.your pal, Fred |
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Re: GOP Rep. King Introduces Bill To End Birthright Citizenship |
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Posted by RockParkMan on Sun Jan 6 16:12:18 2013, in response to Re: GOP Rep. King Introduces Bill To End Birthright Citizenship, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Jan 6 15:56:01 2013. Typical filthy Nazi dirty trick. |
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Re: GOP Rep. King Introduces Bill To End Birthright Citizenship |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Jan 6 16:16:17 2013, in response to Re: GOP Rep. King Introduces Bill To End Birthright Citizenship, posted by Fred G on Sun Jan 6 16:11:00 2013. LMAO!!! |
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Posted by AlM on Sun Jan 6 16:20:37 2013, in response to Re: GOP Rep. King Introduces Bill To End Birthright Citizenship, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Jan 6 15:56:01 2013. You're underestimating his intelligence. He knows perfectly well that his bill will never become law, and that it will further alienate Hispanics from the Republican Party. But it will do that which is most important for him. It will make his own seat more secure. |
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Re: GOP Rep. King Introduces Bill To End Birthright Citizenship |
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Posted by Fred G on Sun Jan 6 16:24:13 2013, in response to Re: GOP Rep. King Introduces Bill To End Birthright Citizenship, posted by AlM on Sun Jan 6 16:20:37 2013. It's theater just like everything else that goes on these days.your pal, Fred |
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Re: GOP Rep. King Introduces Bill To End Birthright Citizenship |
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Posted by orange blossom special on Sun Jan 6 17:07:00 2013, in response to GOP Rep. King Introduces Bill To End Birthright Citizenship, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Jan 6 15:28:49 2013. Sounds good, I hope Obama and Biden are all for it.We are Citizens of the World, and to think otherwise is the height of racism. |
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Posted by Joe V on Sun Jan 6 17:33:13 2013, in response to GOP Rep. King Introduces Bill To End Birthright Citizenship, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Jan 6 15:28:49 2013. He has no use for the 14th amendment, but plays patriot with the 2nd.Hypocrit. |
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Re: GOP Rep. King Introduces Bill To End Birthright Citizenship |
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Posted by Jeff Rosen on Sun Jan 6 17:54:42 2013, in response to GOP Rep. King Introduces Bill To End Birthright Citizenship, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Jan 6 15:28:49 2013. If you post about him in the future, please put the whole name in the subject so we don't think you mean Peter King, the BEST representive in Congress. |
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Posted by Mitch45 on Sun Jan 6 18:09:50 2013, in response to GOP Rep. King Introduces Bill To End Birthright Citizenship, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Jan 6 15:28:49 2013. Didn't Jose Serrano (D-N.Y.) just introduce a bill abolishing term limits for the President? Does that bill not violate the Constitution as well?http://www.mediaite.com/online/democratic-congressman-introduces-bill-to-abolish-presidential-term-limits/ I guess its only bad if REPUBLICANS do it, right? |
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Re: GOP Rep. King Introduces Bill To End Birthright Citizenship |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Jan 6 19:16:01 2013, in response to Re: GOP Rep. King Introduces Bill To End Birthright Citizenship, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Jan 6 15:43:40 2013. And by doing so, he will fall on the sword of his own folly. Iowa has one of the fastest-rising Hispanic populations of any midwest hellhole. Personally, I'm enjoying watching republicans shoot themselves in the kidney after taking out their own nutsack. :) |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Jan 6 19:22:37 2013, in response to Re: GOP Rep. King Introduces Bill To End Birthright Citizenship, posted by bingbong on Sun Jan 6 15:45:05 2013. Breitbart already has that debate covered. :)
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Jan 6 19:24:34 2013, in response to Re: GOP Rep. King Introduces Bill To End Birthright Citizenship, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Jan 6 15:56:01 2013. Somebody needs to tell the tard that fetuses haven't won the right to vote next year yet. :) |
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Re: GOP Rep. King Introduces Bill To End Birthright Citizenship |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Jan 6 19:25:25 2013, in response to Re: GOP Rep. King Introduces Bill To End Birthright Citizenship, posted by Jeff Rosen on Sun Jan 6 17:54:42 2013. Yeah, how's that hurricane aid coming along? |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Jan 6 19:29:55 2013, in response to Re: GOP Rep. King Introduces Bill To End Birthright Citizenship, posted by Joe V on Sun Jan 6 17:33:13 2013. He has no use for the 14th amendmentYour reference leads to nothing. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Sun Jan 6 19:30:44 2013, in response to Re: GOP Rep. King Introduces Bill To End Birthright Citizenship, posted by Mitch45 on Sun Jan 6 18:09:50 2013. A bill to amend the Constitution = following the Constitution. |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Jan 6 20:26:18 2013, in response to Re: GOP Rep. King Introduces Bill To End Birthright Citizenship, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Jan 6 19:24:34 2013. If the dead can vote (and sometimes even get elected), why not the unborn, too? :) |
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Posted by AlM on Sun Jan 6 20:26:44 2013, in response to Re: GOP Rep. King Introduces Bill To End Birthright Citizenship, posted by Mitch45 on Sun Jan 6 18:09:50 2013. The point was specifically made the Rep. King wasn't trying to amend the Constitution, he was just trying to pass it as an ordinary Act of Congress. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Jan 6 20:33:33 2013, in response to Re: GOP Rep. King Introduces Bill To End Birthright Citizenship, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Jan 6 20:26:18 2013. They're working on it. :) |
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Re: GOP Rep. Steve King Introduces Bill To End Birthright Citizenship |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Sun Jan 6 20:54:45 2013, in response to GOP Rep. King Introduces Bill To End Birthright Citizenship, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Jan 6 15:28:49 2013. Title modified so that people don't think it's Peter King.I'm not sure that a bill can do that alone---how is "subject to the jurisdiction thereof" interpreted? (You have to go by what's actually there.) To me, subject to the jurisdiction there means "jus soli". To change that is to change the meaning of Amendment 14---requiring an Amendment of its own. |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Sun Jan 6 20:55:25 2013, in response to Re: GOP Rep. King Introduces Bill To End Birthright Citizenship, posted by Mitch45 on Sun Jan 6 18:09:50 2013. Jose Serrano's motion is via the Article 5 procedure, and he has proposed this in 8 of the last 9 Congresses. |
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Re: GOP Rep. Steve King Introduces Bill To End Birthright Citizenship |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Jan 6 20:58:25 2013, in response to Re: GOP Rep. Steve King Introduces Bill To End Birthright Citizenship, posted by AMoreira81 on Sun Jan 6 20:54:45 2013. "Subject to the jurisdiction of" means "the laws of the US apply to". Foreign diplomats are not subject to US laws (the example given in one of the links in my OP), so any children they have here are not citizens by birthright, AFAIK. |
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Posted by chicagomotorman on Sun Jan 6 21:29:07 2013, in response to GOP Rep. King Introduces Bill To End Birthright Citizenship, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Jan 6 15:28:49 2013. What a great idea! All the power to him. |
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Posted by chicagomotorman on Sun Jan 6 21:29:08 2013, in response to GOP Rep. King Introduces Bill To End Birthright Citizenship, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Jan 6 15:28:49 2013. What a great idea! All the power to him. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Mon Jan 7 02:16:03 2013, in response to Re: GOP Rep. King Introduces Bill To End Birthright Citizenship, posted by chicagomotorman on Sun Jan 6 21:29:08 2013. wait till he writes a bill to strip non-Christians of citizenship. |
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Posted by Mitch45 on Mon Jan 7 02:32:38 2013, in response to Re: GOP Rep. King Introduces Bill To End Birthright Citizenship, posted by SMAZ on Mon Jan 7 02:16:03 2013. He wouldn't be the first politician to do that. History is replete with them. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jan 7 02:56:00 2013, in response to Re: GOP Rep. King Introduces Bill To End Birthright Citizenship, posted by Mitch45 on Sun Jan 6 18:09:50 2013. LOL! You're a fool. |
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Posted by AlM on Mon Jan 7 13:07:36 2013, in response to Re: GOP Rep. King Introduces Bill To End Birthright Citizenship, posted by chicagomotorman on Sun Jan 6 21:29:08 2013. Xenophobe.I was born in the US to a non-resident alien mother. If this were law, I would have been forced to move to a country that I have only ever visited for 4 weeks of my life and whose language I only speak poorly. Meanwhile I have worked in the US for 40 years and still going strong. I've paid plenty of federal, state, and local taxes. You'd be happy if my contribution to the economy didn't exist. |
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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Mon Jan 7 17:14:23 2013, in response to Re: GOP Rep. King Introduces Bill To End Birthright Citizenship, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Jan 6 19:25:25 2013. Did great, all the TV fundraisers are gone.But I hope Johnl and railman don't come backpedaling to this post. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Mon Jan 7 21:49:45 2013, in response to Re: GOP Rep. King Introduces Bill To End Birthright Citizenship, posted by AlM on Mon Jan 7 13:07:36 2013. I was born in the US to a non-resident alien mother.Italiana? |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jan 8 03:46:39 2013, in response to Re: GOP Rep. King Introduces Bill To End Birthright Citizenship, posted by AlM on Mon Jan 7 13:07:36 2013. This bill (which I nevertheless oppose) only requires that one of the child's parents be a resident alien.There are people who want to abolish birthright citizenship to children born to people neither of whom are citizens. If that were the case, I'd have been born stateless. |
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Posted by AlM on Tue Jan 8 08:43:01 2013, in response to Re: GOP Rep. King Introduces Bill To End Birthright Citizenship, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jan 8 03:46:39 2013. OK, then I guess I would have squeaked in - my father was a resident alien - he got his green card a few months before I was born. So I suppose then I should be fine with the bill. :) |
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Posted by shiznit1987 on Tue Jan 8 09:52:08 2013, in response to Re: GOP Rep. King Introduces Bill To End Birthright Citizenship, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Jan 6 19:16:01 2013. Hey now, the Midwest is not a hellhole. I happen to find corn fields kinda pretty.:) In all seriousness, this is just desserts for the Southern Strategy. If the Repubs would focus on small government and strong foriegn policy they wouldn't be in this mess. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Jan 8 14:16:24 2013, in response to Re: GOP Rep. King Introduces Bill To End Birthright Citizenship, posted by shiznit1987 on Tue Jan 8 09:52:08 2013. Only have to go a half mile here for cornfields, so I'll pass. :)And yeah, in addition to that, if the republicans would just corral their crazies and stop trying to outdo Jerry Springer in the 90's along with looking out for more than 2% of the population, perhaps they'd be a contender. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jan 8 15:44:30 2013, in response to Re: GOP Rep. King Introduces Bill To End Birthright Citizenship, posted by shiznit1987 on Tue Jan 8 09:52:08 2013. Mmmmm, tasty. |
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Posted by RockParkMan on Tue Jan 8 18:06:09 2013, in response to Re: GOP Rep. King Introduces Bill To End Birthright Citizenship, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Jan 8 14:16:24 2013. It's FEMA's job to corral the crazies.
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Jan 8 18:53:20 2013, in response to Re: GOP Rep. King Introduces Bill To End Birthright Citizenship, posted by RockParkMan on Tue Jan 8 18:06:09 2013. Alex Jones shows off the new FEMA car logo ... :P
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Jan 9 09:21:42 2013, in response to Re: GOP Rep. King Introduces Bill To End Birthright Citizenship, posted by RockParkMan on Tue Jan 8 18:06:09 2013. Actually, it was MY job at EMS to corral the crazies, for a good many years. Herding EDPs is hard work! LOL! |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Jan 9 19:48:13 2013, in response to Re: GOP Rep. King Introduces Bill To End Birthright Citizenship, posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Jan 9 09:21:42 2013. And now that you're out of there, Unca Larry's taken up where you left off. All aboard! :) |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Mar 12 14:37:29 2025, in response to GOP Rep. King Introduces Bill To End Birthright Citizenship, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Jan 6 15:28:49 2013. Not "xenophobic" to end something that's unconstitutional. |
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