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Re: Social Security Reform (Re: Subtalk politics: at a glance) |
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Posted by Charles G on Tue Feb 28 14:56:33 2006, in response to Re: Social Security Reform (Re: Subtalk politics: at a glance), posted by BIE on Tue Feb 28 14:07:17 2006. Jordan, and all these college basketball/football coaches. Many of the coaches at state schools get $100,000 per year as their salary (so that they don't make from the state budget than the professors or university presidents make), but then get more than a million per year from Nike or Addidas for agreeing to outfit the team in their uniforms or sneakers. |
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Posted by Fred G on Tue Feb 28 14:57:55 2006, in response to Re: Subtalk politics: at a glance, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Feb 28 14:35:40 2006. Not taken as one, really.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by Charles G on Tue Feb 28 15:00:20 2006, in response to Re: Social Security Reform (Re: Subtalk politics: at a glance), posted by BIE on Tue Feb 28 14:09:45 2006. Have you read his new book? "Flat Tax Revolution". I just picked it up a few days ago and haven't had a chance to read anything other than the introduction yet.Forbes seems to have a genuine disgust for big spenders on either side of the aisle. |
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Posted by Charles G on Tue Feb 28 15:08:16 2006, in response to Re: Social Security Reform (Re: Subtalk politics: at a glance), posted by Olog-hai on Tue Feb 28 14:08:36 2006. But the unreported overseas investments would still be captured in the stock price. After all, they'd be throwing off profit.As to undisclosed executive salaries -- they're all disclosed each year. Unless you're accusing them of hiding what they pay people. Either way, even if your accusations had an ounce of truth to them it would be the individuals running the company making the money -- not the company itself. You told me that there were all these corporations making 1000%+ profits, yet you haven't shown me one yet. I'll keep waiting. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Feb 28 15:11:48 2006, in response to Re: Social Security Reform (Re: Subtalk politics: at a glance), posted by Dan Lawrence on Tue Feb 28 08:13:56 2006. Nope. I left the 70's decade in either 2nd or 3rd grade.... |
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Libertarians and the Woman Shortage (was Re: Subtalk politics: at a glance) |
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Posted by Peter Rosa on Tue Feb 28 15:32:31 2006, in response to Re: Subtalk politics: at a glance, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Feb 28 14:35:40 2006. A serious problem with Libertarians - and you just knew I'd find a Woman Shortage angle on the issue - is that a high percentage of them are total nerds, the sort of completely non-Alpha males who have zero chance of finding women outside of a mail-order catalogue. Libertarian Party meetings have been compared to science fiction conventions in terms of being nerdy sausage parties.My LIRR/NYCT blog |
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Re: Libertarians and the Woman Shortage (was Re: Subtalk politics: at a glance) |
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Posted by Fred G on Tue Feb 28 16:10:02 2006, in response to Libertarians and the Woman Shortage (was Re: Subtalk politics: at a glance), posted by Peter Rosa on Tue Feb 28 15:32:31 2006. You are sooooo Waterbury, dewd... :Pyour pal, Fred |
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Posted by JPC on Tue Feb 28 16:51:35 2006, in response to Re: Subtalk politics: at a glance, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Feb 28 11:08:35 2006. Well, to make things clear: It's not the UAE that's involved in the deal. It's a company. A company - you believe in free enterprise, don't you?But oh yeah, it just happens that the company is headquartered in the UAE. Don't believe in the free market anymore? |
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Re: Libertarians and the Woman Shortage (was Re: Subtalk politics: at a glance) |
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Posted by JPC on Tue Feb 28 16:54:25 2006, in response to Libertarians and the Woman Shortage (was Re: Subtalk politics: at a glance), posted by Peter Rosa on Tue Feb 28 15:32:31 2006. Hey, then a libertarian president will be less likely to be fooling around with women - no Lewinskies, no Marilyn Monroe sneaking in and out in the middle of the night. |
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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Tue Feb 28 16:56:45 2006, in response to Re: Subtalk politics: at a glance, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Feb 28 11:22:31 2006. Geee....wonder why that one didn't work out..... |
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Posted by BIE on Tue Feb 28 17:03:07 2006, in response to Re: Subtalk politics: at a glance, posted by JPC on Tue Feb 28 16:51:35 2006. WRONG, DP Worldwide is 100% OWNED by the Dubai government. STOP SPREADING TREASONUS LIES! |
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Posted by BIE on Tue Feb 28 17:07:11 2006, in response to Re: Social Security Reform (Re: Subtalk politics: at a glance), posted by Charles G on Tue Feb 28 15:00:20 2006. Government should always look toward getting the most bang for the buck. |
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Posted by JPC on Tue Feb 28 17:08:25 2006, in response to Re: Subtalk politics: at a glance, posted by SilverFox on Tue Feb 28 07:08:51 2006. Guns should be "controlled" the same way the DMV "controls" the privilege of driving; and the Buildings Department and other departments "control" their jurisdictions through permits and fitness statutes. Anybody operating outside gun "control" statutes thus promulgated should face definite felony charges with guaranteed prison time if found guilty.Bingo. Actually, the primary problem I have is with so-called "discretionary" permit systems, such as we have in NYC. They are loaded with corruption and racism and it's absolutely disgusting. *For the uninitiated, a "discretionary" system is one where you get the permit... if the powers that be decide that you get a permit. More often than not (and often way more often than not), all you get is a simple "no," for any reason, or for no stated reason. A more just system is a shall-issue system, in which you get the permit by default upon application, UNLESS there is a specific reason to disqualify you, such as a prior felony record or history of mental illness or suicide attempts. As far as marriage, I don't see any slippery slope. When it comes to pedophilia and bestiality, ask yourself this question: Are both parties legally able to give consent? If not, there is your answer. In any event, many states (particularly the "red" ones) have marriage ages so low I have a hard time differentiating it from pederasty. And with all due respect, your personal views on the issue, as well as my personal views, mean squat. This is other peoples' lives, and they can do with their lives as they see fit. Now, if somebody was trying to gay-marry me to some guy, I'd definitely be against that! But nobody's trying to gay-marry me (or straight-marry either...), so if two other people want to do that, all the best to them. Here's the bottom line, and it comes directly out of Enlightenment thinking and the Constitution. Here is a person. This person is a sovereign citizen, endowed with natural and unalienable rights. Now, here come a whole bunch of other people, who start trampling on his rights by the exercise of their selfsame rights. The government is created, and laws are enacted, which limit the rights of people, so that their free exercise of rights does not unduly infringe on the free exercise of the rights of others: my right to swing my arm ends where your nose begins. Furthermore, the burden of the law must be fair, and apply equally to all: I can't protect the rights of one person or group by abridging the rights of every single other person. This is what the "equal protection of the laws" is about. Now, here are two gay guys (or gals) who love each other and want to get married. Where is the harm (the negative externality, in econo-speak) caused to others by their free exercise? I don't see any, and despite the zillions of arguments offered by the moral zealots, not one stands up to scrutiny. That is, unless you, like Rev. Phelps believe September 11 was punishment from God for the gays in this country. Therefore, where is the harm done, and thus what is the cause for denying these two individuals the same free exercise that others (i.e. heterosexuals) have enjoyed for many years? If there is no harm to others, it ain't the government's damn business to get involved in. |
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Posted by JPC on Tue Feb 28 17:14:35 2006, in response to Re: Subtalk politics: at a glance, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Feb 28 11:22:31 2006. Socialized healthcare will kill people.Yep. I have no problem with the government operating some sort of a "safety net," to take over after all else fails. That is, in some sense what the government is there for - it's Plan B, or Plan C, or whatever the next letter is after every other one. But to rely on the government as the first-line defense (by which I mean, if it fails, there's nothing else to serve as Plan B), one need look no farther than Hurricane Katrina to see what happens then. |
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Posted by Mr Mabstoa on Tue Feb 28 17:17:25 2006, in response to Re: Subtalk politics: at a glance, posted by Dan Lawrence on Tue Feb 28 10:50:10 2006. Morally I think its wrong to practice homosexuality, yet I have family, coworkers, and friends who are gay and I like them as people. If a couple are going to live for decades together they should benefit from each others health and pension plans.This is the 21 century. I feel the same way about abortion. Morally its a reprehensible thing to do, but its on the Mothers conscience, between her God and herself. It shouldn't be used as a form of contraception but thats up to a woman, not a government to decide. Who's going to adopt all the children that women will be forced to give birth to if abortion is banned? The majority of anti-abortionists don't even have children. |
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Posted by Dan Lawrence on Tue Feb 28 17:25:16 2006, in response to Re: Social Security Reform (Re: Subtalk politics: at a glance), posted by BIE on Tue Feb 28 17:07:11 2006. Governments would win the Olympics if there was an entry for Wasting Great Sums of Money. |
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Posted by BIE on Tue Feb 28 17:29:56 2006, in response to Re: Social Security Reform (Re: Subtalk politics: at a glance), posted by Dan Lawrence on Tue Feb 28 17:25:16 2006. Gold Medal. |
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Posted by JPC on Tue Feb 28 17:50:29 2006, in response to Re: Subtalk politics: at a glance, posted by BIE on Tue Feb 28 17:03:07 2006. Ok, well it's still a corporation, not the government itself.And how am I telling a "treasonous lie?" At worst it's a lie. Describe how my statement is treasonous. |
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Posted by Line 13 on Tue Feb 28 18:30:45 2006, in response to Re: Subtalk politics: at a glance, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Feb 28 11:43:32 2006. Don't be so pedantic. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Feb 28 19:16:53 2006, in response to Re: Subtalk politics: at a glance, posted by Line 13 on Tue Feb 28 18:30:45 2006. Stop trolling and I'll think about it. |
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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Tue Feb 28 19:17:32 2006, in response to Re: Subtalk politics: at a glance, posted by JPC on Tue Feb 28 17:14:35 2006. *one need look no farther than Hurricane Katrina to see what happens then. *Yea, even Mexico and Pakistan had responders out day one, not 2 weeks later. America, taken over by the Mediocure cheapo's. We used to have the money to make things work. |
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Posted by Line 13 on Tue Feb 28 19:18:18 2006, in response to Re: Subtalk politics: at a glance, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Feb 28 19:16:53 2006. Typical response from you - "I don't like what he said, so I'll call him a troll."B7. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Tue Feb 28 19:42:41 2006, in response to Re: B7 4 BklynIND the king of trolling, posted by Brooklyn IND on Tue Feb 28 12:04:34 2006. Not that there's anything wrong with that!!! |
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Posted by R7 Torresdale Express on Tue Feb 28 19:44:36 2006, in response to Re: Social Security Reform (Re: Subtalk politics: at a glance), posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Feb 28 14:20:15 2006. TV? Cake? I've done worse much worse... |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Feb 28 19:46:29 2006, in response to Re: Social Security Reform (Re: Subtalk politics: at a glance), posted by R7 Torresdale Express on Tue Feb 28 19:44:36 2006. I never said we were living like "Good Times". |
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Posted by R7 Torresdale Express on Tue Feb 28 19:49:37 2006, in response to Re: Social Security Reform (Re: Subtalk politics: at a glance), posted by aem7ac on Mon Feb 27 16:07:23 2006. IAWTMFP! |
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Posted by New Brunswick Station on Tue Feb 28 19:55:07 2006, in response to Re: Subtalk politics: at a glance (UPDATE), posted by #4 Sea Beach Fred on Tue Feb 28 01:19:40 2006. Sea Beach Fred: ok :) |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Feb 28 20:00:50 2006, in response to Re: Subtalk politics: at a glance, posted by JPC on Tue Feb 28 16:51:35 2006. I freely admit to not wanting this deal because the company is Arab. I view it in the same way as if Boeing decided to subcontract out B-29 production to Mitsubishi. I don't like Arabs. |
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Posted by New Brunswick Station on Tue Feb 28 20:05:07 2006, in response to Re: Subtalk politics: at a glance (UPDATE), posted by Brooklyn IND on Mon Feb 27 21:55:22 2006. Brooklyn IND: Against! |
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Posted by New Brunswick Station on Tue Feb 28 20:08:48 2006, in response to Re: Subtalk politics: at a glance, posted by BIE on Tue Feb 28 10:21:05 2006. IAWTP |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Feb 28 20:09:18 2006, in response to Re: Subtalk politics: at a glance (UPDATE), posted by Brooklyn IND on Mon Feb 27 21:55:22 2006. You seriously need to relax . . . |
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Posted by BIE on Tue Feb 28 20:09:38 2006, in response to Re: Subtalk politics: at a glance, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Feb 28 20:00:50 2006. You guys need to bump bu$h, he is a liability. |
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Posted by BIE on Tue Feb 28 20:10:01 2006, in response to Re: Subtalk politics: at a glance, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Feb 28 20:00:50 2006. You guys need to dump bu$h, he is a liability. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Feb 28 20:10:27 2006, in response to Re: Subtalk politics: at a glance (UPDATE), posted by Olog-hai on Tue Feb 28 20:09:18 2006. He's too young to remember Frankie Goes To Hollywood. |
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Posted by New Brunswick Station on Tue Feb 28 20:10:29 2006, in response to Re: Subtalk politics: at a glance, posted by New Brunswick Station on Tue Feb 28 20:08:48 2006. More cuz I think he is being a troll than cuz of his opinion. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Feb 28 20:10:59 2006, in response to Re: B7 4 BklynIND the king of trolling, posted by Brooklyn IND on Tue Feb 28 12:04:34 2006. If I really thought you were, I'd call you the queen of trolling . . . |
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Posted by BIE on Tue Feb 28 20:11:18 2006, in response to Re: Subtalk politics: at a glance (UPDATE), posted by Olog-hai on Tue Feb 28 20:09:18 2006. Dayum, who slipped squirrel genes into that poor kid's DNA? |
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Posted by New Brunswick Station on Tue Feb 28 20:11:49 2006, in response to Re: Subtalk politics: at a glance, posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Feb 28 13:47:07 2006. Religions believe that gayness has a cause? |
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Posted by New Brunswick Station on Tue Feb 28 20:14:53 2006, in response to Re: Subtalk politics: at a glance, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Feb 28 11:43:23 2006. I think there are some bisexuals out there - folks who don't mind sex with women or men. (Of course, there are also pedophiles and other weird interests, but that's besides the point.)I'll bet there's some bisexuality any time there's a menage-a-trois that involves a man and a woman. |
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Posted by JPC on Tue Feb 28 20:15:35 2006, in response to Re: Subtalk politics: at a glance, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Feb 28 20:00:50 2006. There's only two things in this world I don't like: racism and Arabs. |
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Posted by New Brunswick Station on Tue Feb 28 20:16:06 2006, in response to Re: B7 4 BklynIND the king of trolling, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Feb 28 20:10:59 2006. Well, that'd be more the case if he were not only gay but also a cross dresser. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Feb 28 20:16:26 2006, in response to Re: Subtalk politics: at a glance TYPO, posted by BIE on Tue Feb 28 20:10:01 2006. They need to dump the whole PNAC too. Bush's cabinet is loaded with them still. |
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Posted by New Brunswick Station on Tue Feb 28 20:18:25 2006, in response to Re: Subtalk politics: at a glance, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Feb 28 11:41:47 2006. I agree. Don't suck for party lines, whether British or American! |
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Posted by New Brunswick Station on Tue Feb 28 20:20:14 2006, in response to Re: Subtalk politics: at a glance, posted by Brooklyn IND on Mon Feb 27 12:52:09 2006. |
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Posted by New Brunswick Station on Tue Feb 28 20:23:43 2006, in response to Re: Subtalk politics: at a glance (UPDATE), posted by BIE on Tue Feb 28 20:11:18 2006. and gave the baby BUCK TEETH? |
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Brooklyn IND, la puta de trolling, quiere un b7 pronto. |
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Posted by New Brunswick Station on Tue Feb 28 20:27:29 2006, in response to Re: B7 4 BklynIND the king of trolling, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Feb 28 11:45:54 2006. waaaaaaaaaaaay to go, BrooklynIND the donkey's arse. |
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Posted by New Brunswick Station on Tue Feb 28 20:29:25 2006, in response to Re: Subtalk politics: at a glance TYPO, posted by BIE on Tue Feb 28 20:10:01 2006. Bump, dump, big fat hairy deal. Just get rid of Dumbya! |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Feb 28 21:49:00 2006, in response to Re: Social Security Reform (Re: Subtalk politics: at a glance), posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Feb 28 19:46:29 2006. Hahaha!Hey, I always liked that show...I still catch it occasionally on TVLand. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Feb 28 21:54:55 2006, in response to Re: Social Security Reform (Re: Subtalk politics: at a glance), posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Feb 28 21:49:00 2006. It made being poor and black so cool! |
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Posted by Brooklyn IND on Tue Feb 28 22:02:16 2006, in response to Re: Subtalk politics: at a glance, posted by Line 13 on Tue Feb 28 19:18:18 2006. I agree, he is a troll! |
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