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Re: Does Iran Already Have a Nuke?

Posted by Rail Blue on Tue Aug 29 17:45:53 2006, in response to Re: Does Iran Already Have a Nuke?, posted by orange blossom special on Tue Aug 29 16:44:05 2006.

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most countries holding nukes doesn't threaten to use them on a daily basis. most countries who have them don't have any intention on using them technically, nor are they also willing as a fanatic to use them to further their beliefs. most people with nukes don't talk openly about using them on their own population to further those fanatical goals.

But think about before those countries had nukes. How many times did France invade Germany (or vice versa) between 1750 and 1950? Do we worry about Spain because they had a totalitarian dictatorship until thirty years ago? Did we worry even when Franco was still there? Do we worry about that little island off the north-west coast of Yurp that actually managed pre-nukes to take over a quarter of the world having schemes for world domination?

most people don't put their women in potato sacks, blow themselves up daily, and spend their days scheming and dreaming of genocide, with acceptable loses to themselves.

In our civilised world, that is true. However, I doubt that most people live in the civilised world. As civilised nations we have two basic strategies:

a) civilise the barbarians
b) put up barriers between us and the barbarians

Obviously, these strategies are not mutually exclusive, and both have cheap and expensive aspects. Plan (b)'s military and intelligence aspects become extremely expensive in the case of barbarians getting nukes. Should barbarians get nukes, that would effectively force us to civilise that barbarian country. We're doing it to China, and I suspect in a decade or two it'll be Persia.

Let's not forget the suitcase bombs that were supposedly stoped on the border, and the iranian and syrian rockets that rain into Israel.

Israel is a self-important herring.

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