|
|
| Re: Palestinian university students’ trip to Auschwitz causes uproar (1181903) | |||
 |
|||
| Home > OTChat | |||
|
[ Read Responses | Post a New Response | Return to the Index ] |
|
||
|
Re: Palestinian university students’ trip to Auschwitz causes uproar |
|
|
Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Fri May 9 12:53:04 2014, in response to Re: Palestinian university students’ trip to Auschwitz causes uproar, posted by Nilet on Thu May 8 20:22:21 2014. Neither the Czech Republic nor Slovakia is willing to admit anybody on the planet who is willing to deny the tastiness of cheeseburgers and mutilate their kids' genitals.Guess what? If you want, you can walk into an unkosher McDonald's (of which there are many in Israel) and order a cheeseburger if you really want it. If that's what you really want to do, by all means, go and do it, no one is going to stop you. But stop being an asshole because no one here is saying you need to be religious, those of us who are religious are merely asking you to respect our choices. I think it went swimmingly. I made a joke, a bunch of fools threw massive tantrums, and then I mocked them for it and much fun was had by all (except the fools). It wasn't a joke, it was downright insulting and rude. Again, once you realize that, you'll have far fewer problems in this community. Chris Cohen was born in Canada and has never been to Israel. However, at some point, he thinks he'd be able to find a better job in Tel Aviv. Will he be able to move to Israel? What factors might potentially prevent him from doing so? Chris isn't exactly a popular Jewish name, so I'd hope the Interior Ministry and Jewish Agency look into how he got that name and ensure he has the proper documentation as he tries to apply for citizenship or a work visa (the documentation requirement are basically the same). But provided he has a letter from a recognized rabbi indicating he is Jewish, money to pay his fees, shows up for his interview with the Jewish Agency if he is making aliyah as opposed to just applying for a work visa, etc., he should be good to go. And having gone through that process (and being told I needed an updated letter proving I was Jewish because the one I brought to a visa renewal appointment was two years old, like I was somehow not Jewish anymore), it is cumbersome, even for those of us who should breeze through it. The need is substantially less than that of people who face oppression but aren't rich or powerful or connected enough to build their own countries to escape it. Accepting them would be the decent thing to do. As I wrote elsewhere, it might be the "decent" thing to do, but Israel is not set up nor can it serve as a refuge for every single persecuted person on the planet. Israel takes in lots of refugees who aren't Jewish. How many Jews fled to how many countries in the 1930s and 40s only to be turned away because those countries couldn't possibly hold the doors open for everyone and anyone who needs to flee something, at least not to settle permanently? Many of them fled to one country only to find it subsequently conquered by the Nazis and now they were no better off than before. And as Gamera wrote, lots of countries didn't open the door at all, never mind holding it open even. |
|
|
|