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Re: Subchat politics: at a glance (in more detail)

Posted by JPC on Wed Mar 1 14:57:47 2006, in response to Re: Subchat politics: at a glance (in more detail), posted by Dand124 on Wed Mar 1 01:15:18 2006.

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Gay Marriage

Favor, this is a simple equal protection issue.


Exactly. I don't see why there's any opposition to this issue at all.

Nobody's forcing you or me or anybody else to get gay-married. It's two people, acting consentually of their own volition. It does not affect anybody outside the two getting married and their immediate circle of peers, wo what the hell business is it of theirs to stand in the way?

Then, some people say that marriage is a sacred tradition and the government has to protect it. Bullshit. Marriage existed for thousands of years before the US Government ever existed, and according to the righties, that's when it was doing so well.

Others will say that they just disagree with gay people getting married for one reason or another. Well,

(a) it's none of your business, and

(b) if you're squeamish about gay people being "married," then call it a "civil union." But then the equal protection clause applies - whatever legal protections and responsibilities are afforded married straight couples must also be offered to gay couples in civil unions. So the simplest solution is this:

Everybody, gay and straight, gets civil unions!

That way everybody gets the same legal treatment - protection against testifying against your spouse, pension and medical benefits, inheritance rights, joint income tax-filing, and so on.

If you want to go to a church, mosque or synagogue and get "married," that's up to you. I'm sure there are plenty of Unitarian, Episcopalian and Reformed churches and synagogues that will do same-sex marriages, so the Baptists need not get their undies in a bunch. Just bear in mind that the church-issued marriage certificate has no legal standing whatsoever.

And isn't that the way it's supposed to be? Separation of church and state.

I guess we form the libertarian faction of subchat, since our answers are almost identical...

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