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Posted by Kriston Lewis on Mon Apr 14 18:26:38 2008, in response to MTA BUS Takeover, posted by hound on Sun Apr 13 20:11:34 2008. 1973-2008 For reals? |
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Posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Mon Apr 14 18:30:50 2008, in response to Re: MTA BUS Takeover, posted by Kriston Lewis on Mon Apr 14 18:26:38 2008. Surbaban? |
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Posted by Kriston Lewis on Mon Apr 14 18:33:56 2008, in response to Re: MTA BUS Takeover, posted by WayneJay on Mon Apr 14 09:42:55 2008. The DOT does this at the present day. Then again, according to them, the W90 is alive and well. |
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Posted by Kriston Lewis on Mon Apr 14 18:41:46 2008, in response to Re: MTA BUS Takeover, posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Mon Apr 14 18:30:50 2008. Oh, damn it. |
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Posted by Operator3319 on Mon Apr 14 18:48:00 2008, in response to Re: MTA BUS Takeover, posted by Kriston Lewis on Mon Apr 14 18:26:38 2008. I did not hear anything to the Affect that Long Island Bus was going anywhere where are the posters of this information getting these erroneous stories from im sure the MTA would have put out an OFFICAL press release which has not been dont as of yetand further more someone saying that the Fleet will be all blue and white by tomorrow is impossible and Joe Smith recently came from MTA Bus promoted to Senior Vice President of Buses at the DOB so why would he be going back to replace Neil Yellin it is just not going to happen unless someone on this board is a high level OFFICAL at the MTA and know something that we dont and if it does i stand corrected |
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Posted by David on Mon Apr 14 19:01:43 2008, in response to Re: MTA BUS Takeover, posted by prpapi718 on Mon Apr 14 18:04:59 2008. Hybrid buses burning clean diesel fuel (not gasoline -- none of NYCT's buses use gasoline) rival the clean-fuel specifications of CNG buses, even doing better than CNG buses in some categories of emissions, without the infrastructure cost involved in converting a depot for CNG and maintaining the CNG equipment in the depot.Where is the evidence that hybrids burn only 5% less fuel (presumably than standard diesel buses)? As to sound effects, I know of no transit agency that will pick one bus model over another because of the way it sounds. David |
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Posted by 3440 on Mon Apr 14 19:45:14 2008, in response to Re: MTA BUS Takeover, posted by prpapi718 on Mon Apr 14 06:08:16 2008. they going to get Orion NG cng busesBJC |
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Posted by R40SlantontheB on Mon Apr 14 21:33:07 2008, in response to MTA BUS Takeover, posted by hound on Sun Apr 13 20:11:34 2008. If this is true this is excellent news. It cannot come soon enough! |
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Posted by B53RICH on Mon Apr 14 22:36:47 2008, in response to MTA BUS Takeover, posted by hound on Sun Apr 13 20:11:34 2008. From what I read on BusTalk by someone else who was at the GA tour, it was mentioned that the merger of LI Bus and MTAB will eventually happen but no timetable was given. |
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Posted by Bee Flexible #823 on Tue Apr 15 00:44:27 2008, in response to MTA BUS Takeover, posted by hound on Sun Apr 13 20:11:34 2008. I'm telling you that it will happen but NOT right away. This has been said before and I will NOT believe it until it's officially posted on the MTA Website stating that this takeover will take place. Right now, it is NOT the case. So LIB will be running as is tomorrow.And PLEASE stop posting nonsense like this unless it is OFFICIAL information. |
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Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Tue Apr 15 09:02:28 2008, in response to Re: MTA BUS Takeover, posted by David on Mon Apr 14 19:01:43 2008. Where is the evidence that hybrids burn only 5% less fuel (presumably than standard diesel buses)?According to the EESI Fact Sheet Hybrid Buses Costs and Benefits, Orion VII hybrids offer, on average, 37% better fuel economy than Orion V diesels and 88% better fuel economy than an Orion VII CNG. In fact, the only benefit of the CNG buses is NOx emissions. CO and THC emissions for a CNG bus are more than an order of magnitude higher than on a clean diesel. |
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Posted by thedarkliberator on Tue Apr 15 14:32:57 2008, in response to Re: MTA BUS Takeover, posted by prpapi718 on Mon Apr 14 06:08:16 2008. Hey asshole its tuesday... MSBA lives. |
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Posted by Operator3319 on Tue Apr 15 14:40:43 2008, in response to Re: MTA BUS Takeover, posted by thedarkliberator on Tue Apr 15 14:32:57 2008. LMAO @ This message |
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APRIL FOOLS! |
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Posted by Kriston Lewis on Tue Apr 15 16:56:17 2008, in response to MTA BUS Takeover, posted by hound on Sun Apr 13 20:11:34 2008. But I must say, it's a little late. |
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Posted by Bee Flexible #823 on Wed Apr 16 00:28:59 2008, in response to Re: MTA BUS Takeover, posted by thedarkliberator on Tue Apr 15 14:32:57 2008. Saw a bunch of them on the N24 earlier tonight. |
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Re: APRIL FOOLS! |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Apr 16 01:33:50 2008, in response to APRIL FOOLS!, posted by Kriston Lewis on Tue Apr 15 16:56:17 2008. Oh well. |
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Posted by The Port of Authority on Wed Apr 16 01:45:33 2008, in response to APRIL FOOLS!, posted by Kriston Lewis on Tue Apr 15 16:56:17 2008. On the bright side, it's still April. |
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Posted by lbt 9415 on Wed Apr 16 02:23:33 2008, in response to APRIL FOOLS!, posted by Kriston Lewis on Tue Apr 15 16:56:17 2008. remember to do your taxes b4 midnight. |
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Posted by The Rail King on Wed Apr 16 03:05:06 2008, in response to Re: MTA BUS Takeover, posted by Operator3319 on Tue Apr 15 14:40:43 2008. I never believed it from the jump. Just like I said in a earlier post on here. Things are happening but no one except those very close to making this a reality truly know. As far as those who work for MTA, they may or may not see little changes happening. I'll repeat sit back and watch the magic happen. |
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Posted by hound on Wed Apr 16 04:36:31 2008, in response to Re: MTA BUS Takeover, posted by Bee Flexible #823 on Tue Apr 15 00:44:27 2008. Something must have happened today at LIB. There's 2 NYCTA hybrids parked in the Mitchell Field Depot. Could they be for driver training? There's also painting of the facility. Must be trying to make an impression. |
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Posted by prpapi718 on Wed Apr 16 06:52:37 2008, in response to Re: MTA BUS Takeover, posted by The Rail King on Wed Apr 16 03:05:06 2008. Yup u got that rite slowly but shortly mta bus will take over long island bus.i knew it from the beginning that mta bus wasnt going to take over long island bus by supposly "TUESDAY" just like MR king said i will just sit back and wait it will happen soon.This is your RTS king writing thanks for riding with MTA bus have a great day! |
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Posted by Mr RT on Wed Apr 16 07:11:58 2008, in response to Re: MTA BUS Takeover, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Tue Apr 15 09:02:28 2008. And the CNG uses a modified diesel engine, but burns hotter, so there are increased maint. cost with it.With the introduction of "clean diesel" fuel the "green" advantage of CNG has been greatly reduced. |
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Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Wed Apr 16 10:18:54 2008, in response to Re: APRIL FOOLS!, posted by The Port of Authority on Wed Apr 16 01:45:33 2008. On the bright side, it's still April.And we're still fools! |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Apr 16 10:47:15 2008, in response to Re: MTA BUS Takeover, posted by Grand concourse on Sun Apr 13 21:43:00 2008. They wouldn't be incorporated into NYCT, but into MTA Bus. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Apr 16 10:51:40 2008, in response to Re: APRIL FOOLS!, posted by lbt 9415 on Wed Apr 16 02:23:33 2008. It's already after midnight when you posted this. |
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Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Wed Apr 16 11:27:48 2008, in response to Re: MTA BUS Takeover, posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Apr 16 10:47:15 2008. They wouldn't be incorporated into NYCT, but into MTA Bus.Regardless, NYCT and MTA Bus fleet numbers don't overlap. |
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Posted by Bee Flexible #823 on Wed Apr 16 11:44:55 2008, in response to Re: MTA BUS Takeover, posted by hound on Wed Apr 16 04:36:31 2008. They are due to receive Orion VII NG CNGs eventually. |
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Posted by lbt 9415 on Wed Apr 16 12:10:13 2008, in response to Re: APRIL FOOLS!, posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Apr 16 10:51:40 2008. oops, i didnt take into account that most on here are on the east coast. It was 1123 PM Pacific Time when i posted it lol |
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Posted by Dr. Casca on Wed Apr 16 14:03:30 2008, in response to Re: MTA BUS Takeover, posted by Bee Flexible #823 on Wed Apr 16 11:44:55 2008. yea, that's what I was about to say...just because NYCT O7s are over there, doesn't indicate anything about a takeover or consolidation, they could be using them for driver training, driver instruction, manufacturer training with an already built but similar model (similar to NYCT's D60LF tests, although they didn't order any), or something...Remember when they made a big thing about taking over the NYCDOT lines, how it was made public and such a big deal? Well, wait until that happens before we start talking about LIB buses saying MTA Bus... My two cents and a stethoscope... --Dr. C |
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Posted by railbus63 on Wed Apr 16 15:05:02 2008, in response to Re: MTA BUS Takeover, posted by Dr. Casca on Wed Apr 16 14:03:30 2008. The buses could be there to test drive on several routes, and also to show them off to the Nassau County politicians. |
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Posted by Dr. Casca on Wed Apr 16 15:06:58 2008, in response to Re: MTA BUS Takeover, posted by railbus63 on Wed Apr 16 15:05:02 2008. yea..."oooh hybrid, low emissions, very green, hmmm, but what about our natural gas, oh let the mta take care of that"Meh... --Dr. C |
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Posted by B47man on Wed Apr 16 19:34:45 2008, in response to Re: MTA BUS Takeover, posted by Dr. Casca on Wed Apr 16 14:03:30 2008. Exactly !! Look how long it took for the NYCDOT takeover. This subject will come up again...bet on it !! |
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Posted by R40SlantontheB on Wed Apr 16 22:11:33 2008, in response to Re: MTA BUS Takeover, posted by prpapi718 on Wed Apr 16 06:52:37 2008. All I know is it better happen soon, the buses look and run like crap. Never seen them this bad. Then again LIB always gets worse, as things continue to head downhill. |
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Posted by prpapi718 on Thu Apr 17 04:26:54 2008, in response to Re: MTA BUS Takeover, posted by R40SlantontheB on Wed Apr 16 22:11:33 2008. ok so what (RIPTA42HopeTunnel)listen most of all rail and bus fans like the old buses not these boxed shaped golf cart buses.these hybrids are not meant to be in out city becuase of our streets and it dont have no sound effect.the only think u got on that bus is alien space ship sounds. the real buses are RTS AKA (RAPID TRANSIT SERIES BUSES)THE BEST BUS.ORION 5 CNG AND DIESEL,NEW FLYER CNG,AND MCI thats all.orion 7 is a space ship worthless bus.Does anybody agree?? |
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Posted by David on Thu Apr 17 05:34:29 2008, in response to Re: MTA BUS Takeover, posted by prpapi718 on Thu Apr 17 04:26:54 2008. I don't understand what is meant by "the hybrids are not meant to be in out (sic) city because of our streets." "Hybrid" refers to the propulsion system. What effect does the condition of the roads have on the propulsion system?David |
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Posted by Edwards! on Thu Apr 17 06:09:40 2008, in response to Re: MTA BUS Takeover, posted by Bee Flexible #823 on Tue Apr 15 00:44:27 2008. How do you know its nonsense?You sound like You work for LIB... |
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Posted by prpapi718 on Thu Apr 17 06:14:00 2008, in response to Re: MTA BUS Takeover, posted by Edwards! on Thu Apr 17 06:09:40 2008. umm ok i know what hybrid means but understand hybrid buses are not meant to be in our city especally if it is low floor.if u going to built a hybrid bus #1 it has to be high floor becuase of our streets.number 2 the interior is ugly the whole bus is ugly.no sound effects..so there u go okrts king speaking |
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Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Thu Apr 17 08:33:57 2008, in response to Re: MTA BUS Takeover, posted by prpapi718 on Thu Apr 17 04:26:54 2008. ok so what (RIPTA42HopeTunnel)listen...Er, what did I do? |
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Posted by Forest Glen on Thu Apr 17 13:48:09 2008, in response to Re: MTA BUS Takeover, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Mon Apr 14 17:24:18 2008. Hybrid is better than CNG.No it's not. |
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Posted by The Port of Authority on Thu Apr 17 14:43:22 2008, in response to Re: MTA BUS Takeover, posted by Forest Glen on Thu Apr 17 13:48:09 2008. proff? |
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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Thu Apr 17 15:07:59 2008, in response to Re: MTA BUS Takeover, posted by The Port of Authority on Thu Apr 17 14:43:22 2008. Orion V CNGs own. |
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Posted by The Port of Authority on Thu Apr 17 16:07:50 2008, in response to Re: MTA BUS Takeover, posted by Osmosis Jones on Thu Apr 17 15:07:59 2008. They're nice. But hybrids are great also. |
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Posted by R30A on Thu Apr 17 16:27:06 2008, in response to Re: MTA BUS Takeover, posted by prpapi718 on Thu Apr 17 06:14:00 2008. Low Floor buses are the way of the future.There is no good reason to buy a high floor bus. Hybrid Local buses are also the way of the future. Emmissions/Fuel Economy dictate that. |
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Posted by prpapi718 on Thu Apr 17 16:32:39 2008, in response to Re: MTA BUS Takeover, posted by R30A on Thu Apr 17 16:27:06 2008. na low floor buses are not meant to be at all in new york city becuase of our streets maybe in the future when the city decides to fix all of our streets.but for now we need high floor buses.plus the low floor buses that we have are a wast of time.there ugly the whole bus in general is ugly |
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Posted by R30A on Thu Apr 17 16:41:00 2008, in response to Re: MTA BUS Takeover, posted by prpapi718 on Thu Apr 17 16:32:39 2008. The condition of the streets is apparently good enough for low floor buses.If it is not good enough, then it is certainly not good enough for the high floor buses which are significantly less reliable then the O7HEVs. |
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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Thu Apr 17 16:52:06 2008, in response to Re: MTA BUS Takeover, posted by The Port of Authority on Thu Apr 17 16:07:50 2008. No hyshit matches up to the Orion V CNGs, although Queens Village and Manhattanville's older Hybrids are cool. |
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Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Thu Apr 17 17:25:28 2008, in response to Re: MTA BUS Takeover, posted by Osmosis Jones on Thu Apr 17 16:52:06 2008. No hyshit matches up to the Orion V CNGsIn what respect? Emissions-wise, HEVs are much bettern than CNGs. |
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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Thu Apr 17 18:07:26 2008, in response to Re: MTA BUS Takeover, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Thu Apr 17 17:25:28 2008. In my own respect. |
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Posted by R30A on Thu Apr 17 19:56:42 2008, in response to Re: MTA BUS Takeover, posted by Osmosis Jones on Thu Apr 17 18:07:26 2008. But in every single REAL quantification, the Hybrid O7 is superior. |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Thu Apr 17 21:25:26 2008, in response to Re: MTA BUS Takeover, posted by prpapi718 on Thu Apr 17 04:26:54 2008. Very strange and rambling post. |
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