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PHOTOS - Mercedes-Benz Citaro Artic at OC Transpo |
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Posted by kevlaf983 on Thu Mar 27 10:08:46 2008 Pics fresh off the camera from this morning at OC's St. Laurent Garage    -Kevin |
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Re: PHOTOS - Mercedes-Benz Citaro Artic at OC Transpo |
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Posted by Dr. Casca on Thu Mar 27 10:11:49 2008, in response to PHOTOS - Mercedes-Benz Citaro Artic at OC Transpo, posted by kevlaf983 on Thu Mar 27 10:08:46 2008. Is it just me or did they re-engineer that bus to have a standard rear engine configuration as per something like what Nova did with the LFS artic?--Dr. C |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Mar 27 10:14:27 2008, in response to PHOTOS - Mercedes-Benz Citaro Artic at OC Transpo, posted by kevlaf983 on Thu Mar 27 10:08:46 2008. Very nice! |
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Posted by busdude2 on Thu Mar 27 10:24:38 2008, in response to PHOTOS - Mercedes-Benz Citaro Artic at OC Transpo, posted by kevlaf983 on Thu Mar 27 10:08:46 2008. Wow thats a huge front door on that bus. Nice pics ! |
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Re: PHOTOS - Mercedes-Benz Citaro Artic at OC Transpo |
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Posted by kevlaf983 on Thu Mar 27 10:37:17 2008, in response to Re: PHOTOS - Mercedes-Benz Citaro Artic at OC Transpo, posted by Dr. Casca on Thu Mar 27 10:11:49 2008. Correct. I've been told its a rear engine pusher. |
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Re: PHOTOS - Mercedes-Benz Citaro Artic at OC Transpo |
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Posted by JAzumah on Thu Mar 27 10:47:00 2008, in response to PHOTOS - Mercedes-Benz Citaro Artic at OC Transpo, posted by kevlaf983 on Thu Mar 27 10:08:46 2008. Hmmmm...Orion VIII? |
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Posted by kevlaf983 on Thu Mar 27 11:24:50 2008, in response to Re: PHOTOS - Mercedes-Benz Citaro Artic at OC Transpo, posted by JAzumah on Thu Mar 27 10:47:00 2008. I wouldn't be surprised if that ends up being the name!Its rumored to be heading to NYC later today. |
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Posted by RTS_Book on Thu Mar 27 11:29:36 2008, in response to PHOTOS - Mercedes-Benz Citaro Artic at OC Transpo, posted by kevlaf983 on Thu Mar 27 10:08:46 2008. Note to North American builders: THIS is what a transit bus should be.Note to European builders: Build these here without being too quirky (e.g. powertrain and layout), and you've potentially got a winner. I wish our buses could be as advanced or stylish as Europe's... |
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Re: PHOTOS - Mercedes-Benz Citaro Artic at OC Transpo |
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Posted by Pablo M 201 on Thu Mar 27 11:46:35 2008, in response to PHOTOS - Mercedes-Benz Citaro Artic at OC Transpo, posted by kevlaf983 on Thu Mar 27 10:08:46 2008. Great photos! Can't wait til it gets to NY. |
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Re: PHOTOS - Mercedes-Benz Citaro Artic at OC Transpo |
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Posted by kcram3500 on Thu Mar 27 12:19:57 2008, in response to Re: PHOTOS - Mercedes-Benz Citaro Artic at OC Transpo, posted by busdude2 on Thu Mar 27 10:24:38 2008. European buses are often designed with true double-stream doorways, and the door panels can actually be opened individually. If someone is only getting off the bus, only the rearward half (towards the front axle) of the door would be opened, and only the forward half might be opened if someone is only getting on. |
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Re: PHOTOS - Mercedes-Benz Citaro Artic at OC Transpo |
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Posted by The Port of Authority on Thu Mar 27 12:48:53 2008, in response to Re: PHOTOS - Mercedes-Benz Citaro Artic at OC Transpo, posted by kevlaf983 on Thu Mar 27 10:37:17 2008. I thought all Citaros were like that. |
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Posted by The Port of Authority on Thu Mar 27 12:49:31 2008, in response to Re: PHOTOS - Mercedes-Benz Citaro Artic at OC Transpo, posted by RTS_Book on Thu Mar 27 11:29:36 2008. 100% in agreement. |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Thu Mar 27 17:01:41 2008, in response to PHOTOS - Mercedes-Benz Citaro Artic at OC Transpo, posted by kevlaf983 on Thu Mar 27 10:08:46 2008. Hmmmm...seems ripe for an Orion rebadging. |
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Posted by roscoman1986 on Thu Mar 27 17:33:20 2008, in response to PHOTOS - Mercedes-Benz Citaro Artic at OC Transpo, posted by kevlaf983 on Thu Mar 27 10:08:46 2008. Ironically I was just thinking about Mercedes and their reputation in the United States as being a luxury car brand because of the fact that they don't sell their own badged cars and trucks here to maintain that.I would imagine that this bus would be branded as the Orion VIII rather than the Mercedes Citaro because I am betting that more than a few people would care about seing their so-called "luxury car brand" on a transit bus. It is a nice bus even if it reminds me of the Van Hools a bit. I rode a few in Salzburg, Austria during the summer of 2005. Is this the first time that a Citaro has come to the Americas? |
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Re: PHOTOS - Mercedes-Benz Citaro Artic at OC Transpo |
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Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Thu Mar 27 18:20:00 2008, in response to Re: PHOTOS - Mercedes-Benz Citaro Artic at OC Transpo, posted by roscoman1986 on Thu Mar 27 17:33:20 2008. I would imagine that this bus would be branded as the Orion VIII rather than the Mercedes Citaro because I am betting that more than a few people would care about seing their so-called "luxury car brand" on a transit bus.That's kind of how I felt when Volvo transit buses showed up in the U.S. It could also pose a problem for Daimler because Setra luxury coaches are branded Mercedes-Benz here. |
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Re: PHOTOS - Mercedes-Benz Citaro Artic at OC Transpo |
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Posted by JAzumah on Thu Mar 27 18:48:59 2008, in response to Re: PHOTOS - Mercedes-Benz Citaro Artic at OC Transpo, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Thu Mar 27 18:20:00 2008. The S417 is worthy of carrying that badge here. In fact, Mercedes could sell those right on the showroom floor. |
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Posted by caine515 on Thu Mar 27 19:41:48 2008, in response to PHOTOS - Mercedes-Benz Citaro Artic at OC Transpo, posted by kevlaf983 on Thu Mar 27 10:08:46 2008. they make these buses in ho scale and are in service in germany. first time seeing them in service in the US. |
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Re: PHOTOS - Mercedes-Benz Citaro Artic at OC Transpo |
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Posted by The Flxible Neofan on Thu Mar 27 21:05:24 2008, in response to Re: PHOTOS - Mercedes-Benz Citaro Artic at OC Transpo, posted by kcram3500 on Thu Mar 27 12:19:57 2008. Hmm, I think the SLFs (or were they the LFSs?) were like that too (in that the panels opened separately). i'm not sure if they were controlled separately, though. |
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Posted by G1RavagesDad on Thu Mar 27 23:23:45 2008, in response to PHOTOS - Mercedes-Benz Citaro Artic at OC Transpo, posted by kevlaf983 on Thu Mar 27 10:08:46 2008. WOW!! You can put those on my streets any time! |
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Posted by B47man on Fri Mar 28 00:27:45 2008, in response to PHOTOS - Mercedes-Benz Citaro Artic at OC Transpo, posted by kevlaf983 on Thu Mar 27 10:08:46 2008. I like this, but....we'll never see this bus here in NYC unless some private company puchases it. Too "purty" for NYCT!! |
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Re: PHOTOS - Mercedes-Benz Citaro Artic at OC Transpo |
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Posted by R22 Shoal Point on Fri Mar 28 09:28:58 2008, in response to Re: PHOTOS - Mercedes-Benz Citaro Artic at OC Transpo, posted by roscoman1986 on Thu Mar 27 17:33:20 2008. Perhaps having the Mercedes-Benz logo will have the opposite effect: "Mercedes build luxry cars, I can't imagine what this bus will be like."And actually it s pretty impressive. Drivers who took a look at it commented on how it was like driving a Mercedes car. Also this demo had luxuries like power drivers' window and tilting/telescopic dash. There was a Mercedes Fuel Cell Citaro in BC a few years ago. |
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Re: PHOTOS - Mercedes-Benz Citaro Artic at OC Transpo |
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Posted by R22 Shoal Point on Fri Mar 28 09:30:40 2008, in response to Re: PHOTOS - Mercedes-Benz Citaro Artic at OC Transpo, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Thu Mar 27 18:20:00 2008. I found that wierd seeing the Mercedes-Benz logo on the Setras. I've never seen them on any other Setra's except Academy's. What was the reasoning for that? |
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Posted by R22 Shoal Point on Fri Mar 28 09:35:25 2008, in response to Re: PHOTOS - Mercedes-Benz Citaro Artic at OC Transpo, posted by The Flxible Neofan on Thu Mar 27 21:05:24 2008. Both, actually. The SLFs and their cousins 'cross the pond the ALXs, had the option to allow each leaf of the front doors to be opened independently. The LFS recently has this as an option. |
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Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Fri Mar 28 10:58:55 2008, in response to Re: PHOTOS - Mercedes-Benz Citaro Artic at OC Transpo, posted by R22 Shoal Point on Fri Mar 28 09:30:40 2008. I found that wierd seeing the Mercedes-Benz logo on the Setras. I've never seen them on any other Setra's except Academy's. What was the reasoning for that?Colonial Coach in Chicago has them on their "Signature Series" premium coaches. It's to signify luxury. |
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Posted by Bingham C50 on Fri Mar 28 14:51:43 2008, in response to Re: PHOTOS - Mercedes-Benz Citaro Artic at OC Transpo, posted by RTS_Book on Thu Mar 27 11:29:36 2008. No argument here. |
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Posted by Gold_12th on Fri Mar 28 23:11:28 2008, in response to Re: PHOTOS - Mercedes-Benz Citaro Artic at OC Transpo, posted by B47man on Fri Mar 28 00:27:45 2008. We will soon, Middle of Spring or Summer. They are going to demo here someday. |
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Posted by RTS_Book on Sat Mar 29 00:52:25 2008, in response to Re: PHOTOS - Mercedes-Benz Citaro Artic at OC Transpo, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Fri Mar 28 10:58:55 2008. Perhaps also the source of the powertrain. Even Freightliners these days carry "Powered by Mercedes-Benz" logos on their front fenders. |
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Posted by R22 Shoal Point on Sat Mar 29 01:26:08 2008, in response to Re: PHOTOS - Mercedes-Benz Citaro Artic at OC Transpo, posted by RTS_Book on Sat Mar 29 00:52:25 2008. Yes, that's what I thought at first, but as far as I know, the Setras have Detroit Diesel engines. The ones overseas use Mercedes-Benz engines, but don't have the Mercedes-Benz logo. I guess here, it is just a styling thing. |
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Posted by Deaks on Sat Mar 29 06:22:58 2008, in response to Re: PHOTOS - Mercedes-Benz Citaro Artic at OC Transpo, posted by R22 Shoal Point on Fri Mar 28 09:28:58 2008. I can appreciate that it is a big difference to standard American buses from what I have seen of them, but the whole dash panel moving with the steering wheel when it's adjusted is nothing new. Volvo were fitting this to their buses in Europe a good six or seven years ago. |
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Posted by lantabusfan on Sat Mar 29 07:30:18 2008, in response to PHOTOS - Mercedes-Benz Citaro Artic at OC Transpo, posted by kevlaf983 on Thu Mar 27 10:08:46 2008. Ah.Give me a GM Artic(TA60-102N) and I'd be happy.Forget that low floor junk.Not'n but plastic and problems. |
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Posted by RTS_Book on Sat Mar 29 13:56:12 2008, in response to Re: PHOTOS - Mercedes-Benz Citaro Artic at OC Transpo, posted by Deaks on Sat Mar 29 06:22:58 2008. Welcome to the N.A. bus industry, a bass-ackwards world where Europe's "standard feature" becomes a high-tech luxury. |
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Posted by The Flxible Neofan on Sat Mar 29 13:57:49 2008, in response to Re: PHOTOS - Mercedes-Benz Citaro Artic at OC Transpo, posted by Deaks on Sat Mar 29 06:22:58 2008. Actually, the Optima Opus has had this feature for quite a while as well. |
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Posted by The Flxible Neofan on Sat Mar 29 13:59:59 2008, in response to PHOTOS - Mercedes-Benz Citaro Artic at OC Transpo, posted by kevlaf983 on Thu Mar 27 10:08:46 2008. Pretty nice - rather boxy, though, as European buses tend to be. Wonder if they are considering the use of LED lights for the bus, or do they not use LED lights in Europe? |
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Posted by (5) Bronx Exp on Sat Mar 29 15:31:02 2008, in response to Re: PHOTOS - Mercedes-Benz Citaro Artic at OC Transpo, posted by The Flxible Neofan on Sat Mar 29 13:59:59 2008. a bus like this would be perfect for nyc. i would hate to hear the price for just one... |
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Posted by RTS_Book on Sat Mar 29 17:38:09 2008, in response to Re: PHOTOS - Mercedes-Benz Citaro Artic at OC Transpo, posted by The Flxible Neofan on Sat Mar 29 13:59:59 2008. Boxier than a D60HF - or any of NFI's buses, save for the Rs and BRT models?I think not... |
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Posted by Deaks on Sun Mar 30 05:43:56 2008, in response to Re: PHOTOS - Mercedes-Benz Citaro Artic at OC Transpo, posted by The Flxible Neofan on Sat Mar 29 13:57:49 2008. Yup. That's probably because the Opus is based on a European model - built by Wright in Northern Ireland. |
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Found it (Re: PHOTOS - Mercedes-Benz Citaro Artic at OC Transpo) |
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Posted by Dr. Casca on Mon Apr 7 09:21:04 2008, in response to Re: PHOTOS - Mercedes-Benz Citaro Artic at OC Transpo, posted by kevlaf983 on Thu Mar 27 11:24:50 2008. Pics and a video later on tonight when I get home.--Dr. C |
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Re: Found it (Re: PHOTOS - Mercedes-Benz Citaro Artic at OC Transpo) |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Apr 7 10:08:49 2008, in response to Found it (Re: PHOTOS - Mercedes-Benz Citaro Artic at OC Transpo), posted by Dr. Casca on Mon Apr 7 09:21:04 2008. Found it when? |
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Re: Found it (Re: PHOTOS - Mercedes-Benz Citaro Artic at OC Transpo) |
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Posted by Dr. Casca on Mon Apr 7 10:17:28 2008, in response to Re: Found it (Re: PHOTOS - Mercedes-Benz Citaro Artic at OC Transpo), posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Apr 7 10:08:49 2008. Earlier this morning, approx 9am on my way to work...Not to mention, there were a few Brooklyn Division training buses running around the vicinity of 96th/Lex, including #9466 (Grand Av), which was the only one i recalled...rear sign said "S79" which kinda told me something was going on in the area...there were at least 5 training buses around, mainly Novas. Anyways, the Citaro artic has a blue MTA logo on the front above the passenger side headlamp and was numbered #0050. I got a few shots and a video of it, will post when i get home... --Dr. C |
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Re: Found it (Re: PHOTOS - Mercedes-Benz Citaro Artic at OC Transpo) |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Apr 7 12:20:42 2008, in response to Re: Found it (Re: PHOTOS - Mercedes-Benz Citaro Artic at OC Transpo), posted by Dr. Casca on Mon Apr 7 10:17:28 2008. Cool, thanks. So what was it doing? Running in service? Testing OOS? Parked? |
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Re: Found it (Re: PHOTOS - Mercedes-Benz Citaro Artic at OC Transpo) |
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Posted by Dr. Casca on Mon Apr 7 12:23:57 2008, in response to Re: Found it (Re: PHOTOS - Mercedes-Benz Citaro Artic at OC Transpo), posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Apr 7 12:20:42 2008. Testing...when i got there at first, they were doing some W/C ramp testing, but then they decided to take it around to the back of the depot. On this model, the W/C ramp is at the middle door...no pics of the deployment, it was being stored when i took the camera out...I shot the bus with my regular camera, didn't have time to whip out the cameraphone...if i did, i would have been able to post those instead.--Dr. C |
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PHOTOS and VIDEO: MTA NYCT, meet the Citaro (Re: PHOTOS - Mercedes-Benz Citaro Artic at OC Transpo) |
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Posted by Dr. Casca on Mon Apr 7 18:29:34 2008, in response to Found it (Re: PHOTOS - Mercedes-Benz Citaro Artic at OC Transpo), posted by Dr. Casca on Mon Apr 7 09:21:04 2008. Here are the photos I took earlier this morning, as promised:   ...and here's the video I shot (along with 2000 New Flyer D60HF #5396): |
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Posted by The Port of Authority on Mon Apr 7 18:56:29 2008, in response to PHOTOS and VIDEO: MTA NYCT, meet the Citaro (Re: PHOTOS - Mercedes-Benz Citaro Artic at OC Transpo), posted by Dr. Casca on Mon Apr 7 18:29:34 2008. Looks nice.Does anyone know how long it's supposed to stay in New York City and/or if it will go into revenue service? |
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Re: PHOTOS and VIDEO: MTA NYCT, meet the Citaro (Re: PHOTOS - Mercedes-Benz Citaro Artic at OC Tran |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Apr 7 19:21:37 2008, in response to PHOTOS and VIDEO: MTA NYCT, meet the Citaro (Re: PHOTOS - Mercedes-Benz Citaro Artic at OC Transpo), posted by Dr. Casca on Mon Apr 7 18:29:34 2008. nice |
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Re: PHOTOS and VIDEO: MTA NYCT, meet the Citaro (Re: PHOTOS - Mercedes-Benz Citaro Artic at OC Tran |
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Posted by RTS_Book on Mon Apr 7 19:46:58 2008, in response to PHOTOS and VIDEO: MTA NYCT, meet the Citaro (Re: PHOTOS - Mercedes-Benz Citaro Artic at OC Transpo), posted by Dr. Casca on Mon Apr 7 18:29:34 2008. IMO, these - or any modern European buses - can't come to the U.S. quickly enough.Heck, even the Solaris Urbano I rode in Lausanne - although little more than a bastardized Neoplan Centroliner, IINM, felt more modern than many contemporary North American buses. Great shots! Thanks for sharing! |
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Posted by caine515 on Mon Apr 7 20:01:57 2008, in response to PHOTOS and VIDEO: MTA NYCT, meet the Citaro (Re: PHOTOS - Mercedes-Benz Citaro Artic at OC Transpo), posted by Dr. Casca on Mon Apr 7 18:29:34 2008. I think i can see the citaro bus running in New York City. Not sure of the 3 door setup but do they even make a 2 door setup and is NY interested at all? |
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Re: PHOTOS and VIDEO: MTA NYCT, meet the Citaro (Re: PHOTOS - Mercedes-Benz Citaro Artic at OC Transpo) |
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Posted by MTABUSEXP QM1A on Mon Apr 7 20:11:51 2008, in response to PHOTOS and VIDEO: MTA NYCT, meet the Citaro (Re: PHOTOS - Mercedes-Benz Citaro Artic at OC Transpo), posted by Dr. Casca on Mon Apr 7 18:29:34 2008. VERY COOL!!!!!!!! |
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Re: PHOTOS and VIDEO: MTA NYCT, meet the Citaro (Re: PHOTOS - Mercedes-Benz Citaro Artic at OC Transpo) |
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Posted by PATransit on Mon Apr 7 20:18:51 2008, in response to PHOTOS and VIDEO: MTA NYCT, meet the Citaro (Re: PHOTOS - Mercedes-Benz Citaro Artic at OC Transpo), posted by Dr. Casca on Mon Apr 7 18:29:34 2008. that thing was here months back never got to see it though that thing is really getting around! |
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Re: PHOTOS and VIDEO: MTA NYCT, meet the Citaro (Re: PHOTOS - Mercedes-Benz Citaro Artic at OC Transpo) |
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Posted by PATransit on Mon Apr 7 20:23:25 2008, in response to PHOTOS and VIDEO: MTA NYCT, meet the Citaro (Re: PHOTOS - Mercedes-Benz Citaro Artic at OC Transpo), posted by Dr. Casca on Mon Apr 7 18:29:34 2008. how come everytime a bus comes to NYC MTA claims it and slaps logos all over it? just kinda curious when the bus isn't even going to be there too long. |
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Re: PHOTOS and VIDEO: MTA NYCT, meet the Citaro (Re: PHOTOS - Mercedes-Benz Citaro Artic at OC Transpo) |
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Posted by TCMetro on Mon Apr 7 20:26:50 2008, in response to Re: PHOTOS and VIDEO: MTA NYCT, meet the Citaro (Re: PHOTOS - Mercedes-Benz Citaro Artic at OC Transpo), posted by PATransit on Mon Apr 7 20:23:25 2008. Maybe they bought it... I wish :) |
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