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CDTA Gillig Pictures

Posted by Scrabbleship on Fri Apr 27 14:47:31 2007

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The "STOP" LED setting on the rear route LED on 4000 (and only 4000):

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Re: CDTA Gillig Pictures

Posted by Scrabbleship on Fri Apr 27 14:53:34 2007, in response to CDTA Gillig Pictures, posted by Scrabbleship on Fri Apr 27 14:47:31 2007.

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I screwed up on one of the pictures. The picture I intended to post to demonstrate the "STOP" feature on 4000 is here:

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Re: CDTA Gillig Pictures

Posted by PATransit on Fri Apr 27 17:03:50 2007, in response to CDTA Gillig Pictures, posted by Scrabbleship on Fri Apr 27 14:47:31 2007.

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whats those things powered by? I like the windows they put on those things goes good with the scheme.

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Re: CDTA Gillig Pictures

Posted by aznboy4305 on Fri Apr 27 17:05:39 2007, in response to CDTA Gillig Pictures, posted by Scrabbleship on Fri Apr 27 14:47:31 2007.

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Nice, frameless windows. Better than spending an additional $17K on extracurricular plastic.

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Re: CDTA Gillig Pictures

Posted by The Port of Authority on Fri Apr 27 17:09:14 2007, in response to CDTA Gillig Pictures, posted by Scrabbleship on Fri Apr 27 14:47:31 2007.

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Not too shabby.

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Re: CDTA Gillig Pictures

Posted by PATransit on Fri Apr 27 17:12:56 2007, in response to Re: CDTA Gillig Pictures, posted by Scrabbleship on Fri Apr 27 14:53:34 2007.

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ALL of our gilligs does the same exact thing! lol even our 2005 Neoplan Artics does the little wheel chair man show up too?

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Re: CDTA Gillig Pictures

Posted by NIMBYkiller on Fri Apr 27 17:48:43 2007, in response to CDTA Gillig Pictures, posted by Scrabbleship on Fri Apr 27 14:47:31 2007.

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Holy crap. When the hell did they come out with the new scheme?

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Re: CDTA Gillig Pictures

Posted by Scrabbleship on Fri Apr 27 17:53:27 2007, in response to Re: CDTA Gillig Pictures, posted by aznboy4305 on Fri Apr 27 17:05:39 2007.

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Extracurricular plastic?

The one downside is they're sealed windows, but the climate control system usually balances that out (though when it's in the 50's, like today, it sucks to not be able to crack open a window).

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Re: CDTA Gillig Pictures

Posted by Scrabbleship on Fri Apr 27 17:58:12 2007, in response to Re: CDTA Gillig Pictures, posted by NIMBYkiller on Fri Apr 27 17:48:43 2007.

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These are the first buses with the new scheme, the incoming sextet of hybrids will have it too and a variant will be on the 8 29' buses going up for the relaunched Saratoga services. This scheme will also appear on the LFS's when they go in for a midlife rehab starting later this year, no word on the rest of the fleet.

It's been in planning for quite some time, I saw pictures as early as May of last year with it and the somewhat similar "NX" scheme(s) on their MCI coaches was a test of sorts for this. If anything it's eye-catching, I know people who HATE buses who want to ride in part because of the scheme being so, well, different.

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Re: CDTA Gillig Pictures

Posted by NIMBYkiller on Fri Apr 27 18:05:03 2007, in response to Re: CDTA Gillig Pictures, posted by Scrabbleship on Fri Apr 27 17:58:12 2007.

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It's all about marketing, and appearance is part of marketing.

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Re: CDTA Gillig Pictures

Posted by aznboy4305 on Fri Apr 27 18:13:48 2007, in response to Re: CDTA Gillig Pictures, posted by Scrabbleship on Fri Apr 27 17:53:27 2007.

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This is a $17,000 option from what I was told.

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Re: CDTA Gillig Pictures

Posted by Scrabbleship on Fri Apr 27 18:51:56 2007, in response to Re: CDTA Gillig Pictures, posted by aznboy4305 on Fri Apr 27 18:13:48 2007.

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Wow...nice, but worth $17,000? Makes me think about why Charlotte decided to waste that for the BRT front cap on their hybrids.

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Re: CDTA Gillig Pictures

Posted by aznboy4305 on Fri Apr 27 19:02:55 2007, in response to Re: CDTA Gillig Pictures, posted by Scrabbleship on Fri Apr 27 18:51:56 2007.

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Rear cap too, as well as an optional front/rear roof hump thing.

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Re: CDTA Gillig Pictures

Posted by oldman on Fri Apr 27 20:02:10 2007, in response to Re: CDTA Gillig Pictures, posted by Scrabbleship on Fri Apr 27 14:53:34 2007.

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HOLY Sh__ Someone took pixs of Albany

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Re: CDTA Gillig Pictures

Posted by BusRider on Fri Apr 27 20:33:33 2007, in response to Re: CDTA Gillig Pictures, posted by oldman on Fri Apr 27 20:02:10 2007.

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I like those pics good job. It's nice to see something new,by growing up on Orions and now the LFS's and NABI's it's kinda werid for me to see this big change. Also the ones going to Saratoga i assume they will be based out of Troy Division like they always. But the new Saratoga icon thats on the CDTA website will that be on the buses to just like the NX has their own? Also i noticed on Wednesday a CDTA NX 324 was parked in my high school parking lot for some reason signed as "SPECIAL". Another thing are these buses staying in Albany while the others ones go to Troy(Saratoga)and Schenctady(Express/BRT)??

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Re: CDTA Gillig Pictures

Posted by AMoreira81 on Fri Apr 27 22:18:09 2007, in response to Re: CDTA Gillig Pictures, posted by oldman on Fri Apr 27 20:02:10 2007.

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I have a gallery of CDTA pictures also...just not recently updated.

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Re: CDTA Gillig Pictures

Posted by Scrabbleship on Fri Apr 27 23:02:50 2007, in response to Re: CDTA Gillig Pictures, posted by BusRider on Fri Apr 27 20:33:33 2007.

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The annual report answers a couple of these questions

1: There are plans to build a garage in Saratoga Springs which would move the Saratoga routes fully up there.
2: Yes, the Saratoga scheme will be a modified version of the iRide scheme.
3: I saw 4002 doing the 55X this afternoon. Original plans or no, I have a feeling a couple diesels will go up to Schenectady with a couple of hybrids ending up in Albany so they can be paraded system wide.

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Re: CDTA Gillig Pictures

Posted by AMoreira81 on Fri Apr 27 23:05:45 2007, in response to Re: CDTA Gillig Pictures, posted by Scrabbleship on Fri Apr 27 17:58:12 2007.

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When will the 29' buses come for Saratoga service? (I might actually consider a CDTA photo trip again come fall.)

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Re: CDTA Gillig Pictures

Posted by AMoreira81 on Fri Apr 27 23:09:11 2007, in response to Re: CDTA Gillig Pictures, posted by Scrabbleship on Fri Apr 27 17:58:12 2007.

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Curious---when are the hybrids and T-29 Advantages coming in---and when does CDTA plan to launch local services connecting Troy with Saratoga Springs?

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Re: CDTA Gillig Pictures

Posted by BusRider on Fri Apr 27 23:17:33 2007, in response to Re: CDTA Gillig Pictures, posted by AMoreira81 on Fri Apr 27 23:09:11 2007.

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I doubt they will i work in Troy as a cleaner they said you gotta get the bus when ever it leaves the garage abd comes back which sucks.

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Re: CDTA Gillig Pictures

Posted by BusRider on Fri Apr 27 23:21:16 2007, in response to Re: CDTA Gillig Pictures, posted by Scrabbleship on Fri Apr 27 23:02:50 2007.

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So when will this huge BRT thing start? Also Troy Garage holds 70 vehicles but only operates 63 buses. So if they build that garage your getting rid of about 9 buses but whats going to happen then the 86,and 96 AM bus won't be able to use mini's. Even thou that the new depot would be really small it saves the buses on milage between Troy, Another thing is i doubt they will put ad's on the outter buses so what is lang media going to do lol go down in business a little bit?

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Re: CDTA Gillig Pictures

Posted by BusRider on Fri Apr 27 23:21:40 2007, in response to Re: CDTA Gillig Pictures, posted by AMoreira81 on Fri Apr 27 23:05:45 2007.

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How old were those pics you have taken?

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Re: CDTA Gillig Pictures

Posted by Scrabbleship on Fri Apr 27 23:45:48 2007, in response to Re: CDTA Gillig Pictures, posted by AMoreira81 on Fri Apr 27 23:05:45 2007.

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The revamped Saratoga service is due to start in either June or July (definitely before the racing season starts), no word on a date yet.

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Re: CDTA Gillig Pictures

Posted by BusRider on Fri Apr 27 23:51:59 2007, in response to Re: CDTA Gillig Pictures, posted by Scrabbleship on Fri Apr 27 23:45:48 2007.

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The CDTA website says July.

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Re: CDTA Gillig Pictures

Posted by Scrabbleship on Fri Apr 27 23:54:28 2007, in response to Re: CDTA Gillig Pictures, posted by AMoreira81 on Fri Apr 27 23:09:11 2007.

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The press release on the coming launch hints that one of the new routes will connect Saratoga to Schenectady (which isn't that far, only via local roads instead of 87/alternate 7).

What actually happens remains to be seen. Something serving the gaping hole known as Clifton Park and a route heading down to the Airport (and possibly from there to Wolf Road/Crossgates) would be good given it'd give a connection to the core of the market aside from the NX and would help tourism.

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Re: CDTA Gillig Pictures

Posted by BusRider on Sat Apr 28 09:29:53 2007, in response to Re: CDTA Gillig Pictures, posted by Scrabbleship on Fri Apr 27 23:54:28 2007.

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It seems like CDTA is going thru major changes and doing big things. We will see what happens.

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Re: CDTA Gillig Pictures

Posted by TruckerJohnT on Sat Apr 28 20:39:30 2007, in response to Re: CDTA Gillig Pictures, posted by BusRider on Sat Apr 28 09:29:53 2007.

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As I understand it from friends who work there, senior operators that is, the first phase will be taking all the Saratoga Service buses out of Troy Division and transfering them to Schenectady to reduce deadhead miles. The second phase will be launching the new T29's in an entirerly new system with expanded routes, service running until 11pm, and new all day service on sundays. This is going to be a major expansion and the new bus garage is suppose to be located near the new CDTA Train Station in Saratoga.

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Re: CDTA Gillig Pictures

Posted by Busrider on Sat Apr 28 21:51:29 2007, in response to Re: CDTA Gillig Pictures, posted by TruckerJohnT on Sat Apr 28 20:39:30 2007.

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Thanks i did not know that so do you know whats Troy going to get out of this once they go?

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Re: CDTA Gillig Pictures

Posted by TruckerJohnT on Sat Apr 28 21:58:08 2007, in response to Re: CDTA Gillig Pictures, posted by Busrider on Sat Apr 28 21:51:29 2007.

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Nothing, will only operate their own schedules

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Re: CDTA Gillig Pictures

Posted by Busrider on Sat Apr 28 22:09:12 2007, in response to Re: CDTA Gillig Pictures, posted by TruckerJohnT on Sat Apr 28 21:58:08 2007.

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Do you know any other things about the CDTA?

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Re: CDTA Gillig Pictures

Posted by clunker on Mon Apr 30 21:59:53 2007, in response to Re: CDTA Gillig Pictures, posted by Busrider on Sat Apr 28 22:09:12 2007.

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There seems to be a lot of interest in CDTA for some reason, but
very few photos. Does it get so cold in Albany that the cameras
freeze up until May.

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Re: CDTA Gillig Pictures

Posted by QM18Express on Mon Apr 30 22:15:11 2007, in response to Re: CDTA Gillig Pictures, posted by clunker on Mon Apr 30 21:59:53 2007.

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Maybe there's not alot of people up in Albany that takes pics of the buses up there.
Nor as PART or The LOOP System

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Re: CDTA Gillig Pictures

Posted by AMoreira81 on Mon Apr 30 22:18:33 2007, in response to Re: CDTA Gillig Pictures, posted by clunker on Mon Apr 30 21:59:53 2007.

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Not really, lol. But there are bigger systems around here with more interest (MTA, NJT, SEPTA, MBTA, Connecticut Transit).

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Re: CDTA Gillig Pictures

Posted by Scrabbleship on Mon Apr 30 22:31:01 2007, in response to Re: CDTA Gillig Pictures, posted by clunker on Mon Apr 30 21:59:53 2007.

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Because it's a 3-hour hike for much of the readership out here:) That and most of the instigated postings come from one person. As for pictures freezing up, nearly 3 years of little change can do that (the 400 series cutaways and the NX D4500's notwithstanding). I have a CDTA backlog dating back to February waiting to be put online plus some stuff from last year but it gets old--outside the two scheme variants, the few remaining wraps, and the two LED signed LFS's, it gets old to shoot after a while.

And to answer QM18's comment on PART and LOOP and such, PART has nothing to photograph while LOOP is stale (no new buses in the last 3 years, no plans for new ones for a few more). Personally, I'd recommend the readership to trek up to Poughkeepsie to see how bad that system is before the low-floor hybrids come in near the new year, I lived it and hated it and it took Moreira one ride to agree. If you can't go down to Prince George's County, Poughkeepsie is a good substitute.

In all honesty, I'd love to see more love for some of the systems to the west. There's a dearth of BC Transit and RGRTA pics out there, Canadians cover the NFTA and Railbus covers CENTRO-land.

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Re: CDTA Gillig Pictures

Posted by AMoreira81 on Mon Apr 30 22:54:38 2007, in response to Re: CDTA Gillig Pictures, posted by Scrabbleship on Mon Apr 30 22:31:01 2007.

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LOOP basically uses wannabe buses, except for seven Gilligs and three 40' O5s. (That LOOP has 40' buses is a surprise.)

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Re: CDTA Gillig Pictures

Posted by AMoreira81 on Mon Apr 30 22:55:58 2007, in response to Re: CDTA Gillig Pictures, posted by Scrabbleship on Mon Apr 30 22:31:01 2007.

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You also forgot another aspect...that between them, the MTA and NJT alone have over 9,000 buses.

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Re: CDTA Gillig Pictures

Posted by TruckerJohnT on Tue May 1 01:15:50 2007, in response to Re: CDTA Gillig Pictures, posted by TruckerJohnT on Sat Apr 28 20:39:30 2007.

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there's 3 cdta buses for sale in ebaymotors/buses. The last Orion I,642 (the last Orion I that was in service, although there's still 1 more left there, 630, which was the very first Orion I 40 footer built) a ford cutaway and the last Orion II built.

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