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Posted by Bill Newkirk on Wed Sep 28 07:31:38 2022 Photo #1 - Luckily I had my camera bag with me when I caught this. The location is New Jersey. Any idea where ? (Dec 1985) Photo #2 - Photographed by the late Gary Grahl at Roosevelt Field is this Baltimore MTA assigned to the N-45. Was this a test of the new Flixble's that MSBA would buy ? I also heard that this type of bus was an advanced design body lowered onto a Flxible new look chassis. Is this true ? (June 23, 1984) Photo #3 - Queens Transit loaner for the same reason as photo #2 ? - Uniondale depot June 1984) Photo #4 - EX-1000 was once a full length fishbowl shortened for light usage lines with narrow streets as I was told. I heard it performed poorly in inclement weather being "all over the road". Anyone know the original number ? (Lynbrook LIRR - N 14 route)
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Posted by Catfish 44* on Wed Sep 28 10:08:22 2022, in response to [PHOTOS] MSBA Oddities, posted by Bill Newkirk on Wed Sep 28 07:31:38 2022.* I can’t help any of them but that fishbowl in the last photo is utterly absurd.
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Posted by Bill Newkirk* on Wed Sep 28 10:26:51 2022, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] MSBA Oddities, posted by Catfish 44 on Wed Sep 28 10:08:22 2022.* I can’t help any of them but that fishbowl in the last photo is utterly absurd. It would have been cheaper to purchase smaller vehicles that would last longer yet handle better in bad weather. But the finished product looks professional and convincing. Bill Newkirk
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Posted by Catfish 44* on Wed Sep 28 10:46:18 2022, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] MSBA Oddities, posted by Bill Newkirk on Wed Sep 28 10:26:51 2022.* The finished product is spot on.
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Posted by kcram3500* on Wed Sep 28 15:54:48 2022, in response to [PHOTOS] MSBA Oddities, posted by Bill Newkirk on Wed Sep 28 07:31:38 2022.* Photo 1: I'm going to guess that is the Detroit Diesel/Allison shop on rt 17 in Lodi. Photo 2: This was a Flxible ABR (Advance Bus Remanufacturing) where they indeed would put the 870/Metro body on a Flxible or GMC New Look chassis. NJ Transit also had one made from one of their 1976 Flx New Looks. Easiest way to tell an ABR from a Metro was the extra panel between the headlights and the bumper.
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Posted by Q4 on Wed Sep 28 17:39:00 2022, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] MSBA Oddities, posted by Catfish 44 on Wed Sep 28 10:46:18 2022. I saw that bus or one like it several times back in the day. Didn’t know it’s history just knew it was odd looking.
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Posted by Charles G* on Wed Sep 28 17:42:40 2022, in response to [PHOTOS] MSBA Oddities, posted by Bill Newkirk on Wed Sep 28 07:31:38 2022.* I can't help with the bus number, but picture 4 is Rockville Centre LIRR and not Lynbrook
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Posted by Bill Newkirk* on Wed Sep 28 19:32:31 2022, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] MSBA Oddities, posted by kcram3500 on Wed Sep 28 15:54:48 2022.* Photo 1: I'm going to guess that is the Detroit Diesel/Allison shop on rt 17 in Lodi. It wasn't anywhere near Rte 17. More like around the Rte 1 & 9 Area. Photo: 2 - Easiest way to tell an ABR from a Metro was the extra panel between the headlights and the bumper. That is exactly what i was told. Thanks for the info. Bill Newkirk
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Posted by Bill Newkirk* on Wed Sep 28 19:33:29 2022, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] MSBA Oddities, posted by Charles G on Wed Sep 28 17:42:40 2022.* I can't help with the bus number, but picture 4 is Rockville Centre LIRR and not Lynbrook Thanks Charles. Bill Newkirk
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Posted by https://salaamallah.com/* on Wed Sep 28 19:49:56 2022, in response to [PHOTOS] MSBA Oddities, posted by Bill Newkirk on Wed Sep 28 07:31:38 2022.* NICE PHOTOS
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Posted by Charles G* on Wed Sep 28 21:22:18 2022, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] MSBA Oddities, posted by Bill Newkirk on Wed Sep 28 19:33:29 2022.* So, poking around a bit more there is an old thread here that indicates that this bus was originally Schenk #428 and then MSBA #474 before being renumbered as EX 1000.
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Posted by Catfish 44* on Wed Sep 28 22:09:45 2022, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] MSBA Oddities, posted by Charles G on Wed Sep 28 21:22:18 2022.* Nice find. The photos of the workshop shortening them down are great.
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Posted by Bill Newkirk* on Thu Sep 29 13:57:26 2022, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] MSBA Oddities, posted by Catfish 44 on Wed Sep 28 22:09:45 2022.* Another kit bashed "fishbowl" at Bus Fest June 2005, Floyd Bennett Field
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Posted by Catfish 44* on Thu Sep 29 19:33:23 2022, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] MSBA Oddities, posted by Bill Newkirk on Thu Sep 29 13:57:26 2022.* Oh yes. I wonder what ever happened to it. That’s a ex 8xxx bus c. 1966/67 5303
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Posted by Avid Reader* on Fri Sep 30 08:16:56 2022, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] MSBA Oddities, posted by Catfish 44 on Wed Sep 28 10:08:22 2022.*
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Posted by Bill Newkirk* on Sat Oct 1 09:27:15 2022, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] MSBA Oddities, posted by Catfish 44 on Thu Sep 29 19:33:23 2022.* Oh yes. I wonder what ever happened to it. That’s a ex 8xxx bus c. 1966/67 5303 Most likely scrapped. Bill Newkirk
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Posted by GojiMet86* on Sat Oct 1 13:11:25 2022, in response to [PHOTOS] MSBA Oddities, posted by Bill Newkirk on Wed Sep 28 07:31:38 2022.* The Queens Transit bus looks like it was numbered 1306 for MSBA. I wonder what the rest of the 1300 were.
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Posted by WayneJay* on Sat Oct 1 16:49:23 2022, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] MSBA Oddities, posted by kcram3500 on Wed Sep 28 15:54:48 2022.* I remember reading about the Flxible ABR in Bus World magazine with pics of Queen City Metro as the featured bus. I think it was their bus #80 which appeared to be a mid/late 70s new look Flxible that became a Flxible ABR.
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Posted by WayneJay* on Sat Oct 1 16:51:10 2022, in response to [PHOTOS] MSBA Oddities, posted by Bill Newkirk on Wed Sep 28 07:31:38 2022.* I remember when Queens Surface Transit and Green Bus Lines were both operating some Flxible Metros.
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