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MTA Bus Stop (Guide-A-Ride box), a "little" update

Posted by gold_12th on Wed Jan 22 00:52:00 2020

since MTA got rid of posted time schedules on the Guide-A-Ride boxes...


It was replaced by this crap...



MTA has now added back to some bus stops with MTA BusTime stop code number : TEXT "Bus Stop Code #" to 511123. I assume, every Guide-A-Ride boxes will get an update now.


Little improvement, not what other riders complain by getting back the full time schedules to be posted on Guide-A-Ride box. Unless we get e-ink display soon....

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Re: MTA Bus Stop (Guide-A-Ride box), a ''little'' update

Posted by Joe V on Wed Jan 22 18:23:38 2020, in response to MTA Bus Stop (Guide-A-Ride box), a "little" update, posted by gold_12th on Wed Jan 22 00:52:00 2020.

Like all bus riders have smart phones, want to run up data charges, and even if they did, may not know how to use them. It should not be a requirement to use a public transit system, any more than telling them they must have bank account or be credit worthy..

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Re: MTA Bus Stop (Guide-A-Ride box), a ''little'' update

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jan 22 19:14:25 2020, in response to Re: MTA Bus Stop (Guide-A-Ride box), a ''little'' update, posted by Joe V on Wed Jan 22 18:23:38 2020.

You need neither a smart phone nor data to text.

Are you going to complain that the instructions are written in English and so discriminate against the illiterate or against immigrants?

It’s irresponsible to go out alone more than a couple of blocks without a cell phone.

HOWEVER: I don’t see any valid reason for not including the schedules.

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Re: MTA Bus Stop (Guide-A-Ride box), a ''little'' update

Posted by Joe V on Wed Jan 22 19:49:20 2020, in response to Re: MTA Bus Stop (Guide-A-Ride box), a ''little'' update, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jan 22 19:14:25 2020.

People who do not use smart phones also do not text. If you ever come out of your little Millenial world, you'd understand that.

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Re: MTA Bus Stop (Guide-A-Ride box), a ''little'' update

Posted by Dyre Dan on Wed Jan 22 20:22:26 2020, in response to MTA Bus Stop (Guide-A-Ride box), a "little" update, posted by gold_12th on Wed Jan 22 00:52:00 2020.

It's an improvement, but a small one. And since it means they have to print individualized cards for each bus stop with the bus stop codes on them, and post them in the right locations, it can't be saving much money over posting the full schedules like they used to.

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Re: MTA Bus Stop (Guide-A-Ride box), a ''little'' update

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jan 22 22:07:15 2020, in response to Re: MTA Bus Stop (Guide-A-Ride box), a ''little'' update, posted by Joe V on Wed Jan 22 19:49:20 2020.

They should learn, or accept a life of being a shut-in.

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Re: MTA Bus Stop (Guide-A-Ride box), a ''little'' update

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jan 22 22:09:19 2020, in response to Re: MTA Bus Stop (Guide-A-Ride box), a ''little'' update, posted by Dyre Dan on Wed Jan 22 20:22:26 2020.

The only advantage that I see for them is that the card need only be installed once and not changed if the schedule changes. They are saving on maintenance. I don’t know how much they are saving but unless it’s significant this is a major step down.

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Re: MTA Bus Stop (Guide-A-Ride box), a ''little'' update

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jan 22 22:09:43 2020, in response to Re: MTA Bus Stop (Guide-A-Ride box), a ''little'' update, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jan 22 22:09:19 2020.

I like to make fun of the people who don’t use bus time, but batteries die.

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Re: MTA Bus Stop (Guide-A-Ride box), a ''little'' update

Posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Jan 22 22:56:46 2020, in response to Re: MTA Bus Stop (Guide-A-Ride box), a ''little'' update, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jan 22 22:09:19 2020.

Mostly it’s DOT that’s saving since they are doing the installation. The MTA only saves on paper, ink, and the cost of computer time since all the programming is already done. The savings for the MTA is negligible.

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Re: MTA Bus Stop (Guide-A-Ride box), a ''little'' update

Posted by Joe V on Thu Jan 23 07:49:30 2020, in response to Re: MTA Bus Stop (Guide-A-Ride box), a ''little'' update, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jan 22 22:07:15 2020.

No, you adapt the system to conform to paying customers, not the other way around. In 40 years, you may change your opinion about that. You will be 70 or 80 some day.

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Re: MTA Bus Stop (Guide-A-Ride box), a ''little'' update

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jan 23 09:38:55 2020, in response to Re: MTA Bus Stop (Guide-A-Ride box), a ''little'' update, posted by Joe V on Thu Jan 23 07:49:30 2020.

And I’ll have a cell phone or its 2050s equivalent, like every 70-80 year old I know.

And buses are subsidized, with people over 65 even more subsidized. So I’m not in favor of spending extreme resources to cater to a minority.

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Re: MTA Bus Stop (Guide-A-Ride box), a ''little'' update

Posted by New Flyer #857 on Thu Jan 23 10:10:07 2020, in response to Re: MTA Bus Stop (Guide-A-Ride box), a ''little'' update, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jan 23 09:38:55 2020.

Somewhat off topic, but do you think the subsidies will be similar in 2050? I myself was thinking that unless new highways are built within NYC boundaries (unlikely), the ratio of public transit to automobile travel can only rise in favor of public transit, even if only few extension projects are completed in the future.

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Re: MTA Bus Stop (Guide-A-Ride box), a ''little'' update

Posted by AlM on Thu Jan 23 13:17:15 2020, in response to Re: MTA Bus Stop (Guide-A-Ride box), a ''little'' update, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jan 22 22:09:43 2020.

My phone battery never dies. :)



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Re: MTA Bus Stop (Guide-A-Ride box), a ''little'' update

Posted by davidy on Thu Jan 23 17:54:44 2020, in response to Re: MTA Bus Stop (Guide-A-Ride box), a ''little'' update, posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Jan 22 22:56:46 2020.

The workers that change and update the guide a ride drive around in MTA vehicles, so unless "these" DOT workers of yours drive MTA cars they must be MTA workers not DOT.

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Re: MTA Bus Stop (Guide-A-Ride box), a ''little'' update

Posted by BrooklynBus on Thu Jan 23 18:38:37 2020, in response to Re: MTA Bus Stop (Guide-A-Ride box), a ''little'' update, posted by davidy on Thu Jan 23 17:54:44 2020.

It used to be DOT workers. I guess DOT changed their arrangement with the MTA.

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Re: MTA Bus Stop (Guide-A-Ride box), a ''little'' update

Posted by italianguyinsi on Thu Jan 23 21:21:08 2020, in response to Re: MTA Bus Stop (Guide-A-Ride box), a ''little'' update, posted by Joe V on Wed Jan 22 19:49:20 2020.

Some do, some don't. I can see if the schedules would change weekly, or monthly. Most schedules don't vary for a year, sometimes more.

It's not always the elderly. Specials needs individuals also are helped by printed schedules.

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Re: MTA Bus Stop (Guide-A-Ride box), a ''little'' update

Posted by randyo on Thu Jan 23 23:26:24 2020, in response to Re: MTA Bus Stop (Guide-A-Ride box), a ''little'' update, posted by BrooklynBus on Thu Jan 23 18:38:37 2020.

I remember when I was still working at Livingston, that at some point the DOT was unable to post the new guide a rides in a timely manner and since O/P actually printed the guid a rides, one of the managers suggested that MTA employees should go out and installed them ourselves. Maybe that eventually happened.

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Re: MTA Bus Stop (Guide-A-Ride box), a ''little'' update

Posted by Joe V on Fri Jan 24 19:01:06 2020, in response to Re: MTA Bus Stop (Guide-A-Ride box), a ''little'' update, posted by italianguyinsi on Thu Jan 23 21:21:08 2020.

Some people like my mother will not use her Smartphone for e-mail or internet because she can't stand the idea of using the phone's keyboard on the screen. I have given her pens with stylus tips to no avail. But she is very good on the internet with her own desktop PC.

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Re: MTA Bus Stop (Guide-A-Ride box), a ''little'' update

Posted by TransitChuckG on Fri Jan 24 19:18:15 2020, in response to Re: MTA Bus Stop (Guide-A-Ride box), a ''little'' update, posted by Joe V on Fri Jan 24 19:01:06 2020.

The keys on a smartphone are small,I'm constantly hitting the letter next to one I'm trying type.
I have to be more careful........


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Re: MTA Bus Stop (Guide-A-Ride box), a ''little'' update

Posted by Joe V on Fri Jan 24 19:57:29 2020, in response to Re: MTA Bus Stop (Guide-A-Ride box), a ''little'' update, posted by TransitChuckG on Fri Jan 24 19:18:15 2020.

So am I. They for Millenials.

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Re: MTA Bus Stop (Guide-A-Ride box), a ''little'' update

Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Jan 24 20:04:41 2020, in response to Re: MTA Bus Stop (Guide-A-Ride box), a ''little'' update, posted by TransitChuckG on Fri Jan 24 19:18:15 2020.

Everyone does this, no matter the age.

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Re: MTA Bus Stop (Guide-A-Ride box), a ''little'' update

Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Jan 24 20:26:05 2020, in response to Re: MTA Bus Stop (Guide-A-Ride box), a ''little'' update, posted by Joe V on Fri Jan 24 19:57:29 2020.

Millennials hit the wrong keys all the time too. I’m only typing correctly because of autocorrect, autofill and backspace.

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Re: MTA Bus Stop (Guide-A-Ride box), a ''little'' update

Posted by Joe V on Fri Jan 24 20:51:44 2020, in response to Re: MTA Bus Stop (Guide-A-Ride box), a ''little'' update, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Jan 24 20:26:05 2020.

Many people don't have the patience for that crap.

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Re: MTA Bus Stop (Guide-A-Ride box), a ''little'' update

Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Jan 24 21:35:44 2020, in response to Re: MTA Bus Stop (Guide-A-Ride box), a ''little'' update, posted by Joe V on Fri Jan 24 20:51:44 2020.

That’s their fault.

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Re: MTA Bus Stop (Guide-A-Ride box), a ''little'' update

Posted by Joe V on Sat Jan 25 07:39:30 2020, in response to Re: MTA Bus Stop (Guide-A-Ride box), a ''little'' update, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Jan 24 21:35:44 2020.

Doesn't matter whose "fault". The customer is always right. It is the service provider's job to adapt. That is why Jitterbug is in business with dumb cell phones and big buttons.

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