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Re: Lanza, Ignizio ask MTA to stop using flashing blue LEDs lights on S79 SBS |
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Posted by LRG5784 on Tue Sep 11 22:21:46 2012, in response to Lanza, Ignizio ask MTA to stop using flashing blue LEDs lights on S79 SBS, posted by Gold_12TH on Tue Sep 11 21:54:57 2012. They should ask the MTA to get those hybrids off the line and put the Orion 5s back. Just saying.... |
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Re: Lanza, Ignizio ask MTA to stop using flashing blue LEDs lights on S79 SBS |
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Posted by Train2104 on Tue Sep 11 23:12:10 2012, in response to Lanza, Ignizio ask MTA to stop using flashing blue LEDs lights on S79 SBS, posted by Gold_12TH on Tue Sep 11 21:54:57 2012. Just another tactic to shut down SBS... |
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Re: Lanza, Ignizio ask MTA to stop using flashing blue LEDs lights on S79 SBS |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Tue Sep 11 23:20:16 2012, in response to Re: Lanza, Ignizio ask MTA to stop using flashing blue LEDs lights on S79 SBS, posted by Train2104 on Tue Sep 11 23:12:10 2012. You might have had a valid point if this hadn't come up already back in 2008 with the Bx12 SBS...those flashing lights can be confusing especially at night. Perhaps they should be changed to green or purple. |
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Re: Lanza, Ignizio ask MTA to stop using flashing blue LEDs lights on S79 SBS |
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Posted by Brooklyn67 on Tue Sep 11 23:28:54 2012, in response to Lanza, Ignizio ask MTA to stop using flashing blue LEDs lights on S79 SBS, posted by Gold_12TH on Tue Sep 11 21:54:57 2012. I agree. The lights are in violation of the NYS VTL, are distracting and would further dilute the effectiveness of emergency flashers when a driver hits the "panic button".Just another case of the MTA acting above the law. |
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Re: Lanza, Ignizio ask MTA to stop using flashing blue LEDs lights on S79 SBS |
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Posted by The Flxible Neofan on Tue Sep 11 23:40:05 2012, in response to Lanza, Ignizio ask MTA to stop using flashing blue LEDs lights on S79 SBS, posted by Gold_12TH on Tue Sep 11 21:54:57 2012. Interesting. I wonder when the flashing blue light issue will end up becoming a lawsuit against the MTA if they don't change it.Must the lights flash? Would it be as effective (and legal) if the blue lights didn't flash and just remained on? |
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Re: Lanza, Ignizio ask MTA to stop using flashing blue LEDs lights on S79 SBS |
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Posted by WayneJay on Tue Sep 11 23:42:24 2012, in response to Lanza, Ignizio ask MTA to stop using flashing blue LEDs lights on S79 SBS, posted by Gold_12TH on Tue Sep 11 21:54:57 2012. I also thought those flashing blue lights were a bit much. I first thought this a couple of years ago when I was driving on Fordham Road and a 5700 series NFI D60HF on the Bx12SBS was behind me. |
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Re: Lanza, Ignizio ask MTA to stop using flashing blue LEDs lights on S79 SBS |
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Posted by Jimbo Kalin on Wed Sep 12 07:10:01 2012, in response to Re: Lanza, Ignizio ask MTA to stop using flashing blue LEDs lights on S79 SBS, posted by WayneJay on Tue Sep 11 23:42:24 2012. Years ago (1970's ?) the NYC Dept. of Sanitation had flashing blue lights on the rear of garbage collection trucks. Then no more. They should be removed from the buses. |
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Re: Lanza, Ignizio ask MTA to stop using flashing blue LEDs lights on S79 SBS |
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Posted by Cornell Park on Wed Sep 12 07:22:41 2012, in response to Lanza, Ignizio ask MTA to stop using flashing blue LEDs lights on S79 SBS, posted by Gold_12TH on Tue Sep 11 21:54:57 2012. I don't think by law NYCT should be using the flashing red lights on supervisors cars or sirens for that matter. NYS VTL sets red for emergency vehicles. Don't really think NYS and NYCT have the same idea of what an emergency is. |
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Re: Lanza, Ignizio ask MTA to stop using flashing blue LEDs lights on S79 SBS |
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Posted by WayneJay on Wed Sep 12 11:50:48 2012, in response to Re: Lanza, Ignizio ask MTA to stop using flashing blue LEDs lights on S79 SBS, posted by Jimbo Kalin on Wed Sep 12 07:10:01 2012. I remember those 3 yellow flashing lights on the DSNY trucks. I wouldn't have guessed that they bothered other motorists because because they were mounted high, and they used incandescent bulbs.In addition to the 2 flashing blue lights near the roof (on the D60HF), they also had another blue light in the windshield. I recall it being more like a strobe light. It was noticeable to me because the sun had just set and the bus was behind my car in heavy, slow moving traffic on Fordham Rd approaching the Uinversity Heights Bridge. |
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Re: Lanza, Ignizio ask MTA to stop using flashing blue LEDs lights on S79 SBS |
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Posted by mci guy on Wed Sep 12 15:03:17 2012, in response to Re: Lanza, Ignizio ask MTA to stop using flashing blue LEDs lights on S79 SBS, posted by WayneJay on Wed Sep 12 11:50:48 2012. its all bullshit. while maybe its not legal this is mta were talking about. i was on hylan yesterday and they didnt bother me. one problem is the lanes are now very tight. |
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Re: Lanza, Ignizio ask MTA to stop using flashing blue LEDs lights on S79 SBS |
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Posted by jasonbellamy on Wed Sep 12 17:17:53 2012, in response to Lanza, Ignizio ask MTA to stop using flashing blue LEDs lights on S79 SBS, posted by Gold_12TH on Tue Sep 11 21:54:57 2012. I thought the whole point of the blue lights was to tell passengers to get a POP receipt before the bus arrived. But the S79 doesn't have off-board fare collection.In New York State, blue lights are courtesy lights for volunteer fire fighters. State law says you only have to yield to vehicles with red flashing lights. Police cars are allowed to have a blue light, but they must also have red lights. I think this law should be changed to be consistent with other states. Blue lights should be required on, and reserved for, emergency vehicles. A blue light really stands out, since nothing else is that color, while there's plenty of red from tail lights and traffic lights. |
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Re: Lanza, Ignizio ask MTA to stop using flashing blue LEDs lights on S79 SBS |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Wed Sep 12 21:51:44 2012, in response to Re: Lanza, Ignizio ask MTA to stop using flashing blue LEDs lights on S79 SBS, posted by Jimbo Kalin on Wed Sep 12 07:10:01 2012. Agreed---the MTA should choose some other color, such as green for the SBS...or perhaps consider a Luminator multi-color sign for these buses for the front only. |
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Re: Lanza, Ignizio ask MTA to stop using flashing blue LEDs lights on S79 SBS |
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Posted by R32_3672 on Wed Sep 12 23:10:48 2012, in response to Re: Lanza, Ignizio ask MTA to stop using flashing blue LEDs lights on S79 SBS, posted by AMoreira81 on Wed Sep 12 21:51:44 2012. i dont think this will phase the dot or mta to change color.silly nimbys complaints |
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Re: Lanza, Ignizio ask MTA to stop using flashing blue LEDs lights on S79 SBS |
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Posted by checkmatechamp13 on Wed Sep 12 23:12:49 2012, in response to Re: Lanza, Ignizio ask MTA to stop using flashing blue LEDs lights on S79 SBS, posted by LRG5784 on Tue Sep 11 22:21:46 2012. No! That means fewer O5s will be on the S44 & S59 for me. :D |
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Re: Lanza, Ignizio ask MTA to stop using flashing blue LEDs lights on S79 SBS |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Wed Sep 12 23:59:48 2012, in response to Re: Lanza, Ignizio ask MTA to stop using flashing blue LEDs lights on S79 SBS, posted by R32_3672 on Wed Sep 12 23:10:48 2012. It isn't a NIMBY complaint of the statute is open-and-shut on this matter. |
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Re: Lanza, Ignizio ask MTA to stop using flashing blue LEDs lights on S79 SBS |
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Posted by LRG5784 on Thu Sep 13 00:07:48 2012, in response to Re: Lanza, Ignizio ask MTA to stop using flashing blue LEDs lights on S79 SBS, posted by checkmatechamp13 on Wed Sep 12 23:12:49 2012. Lmao |
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Re: Lanza, Ignizio ask MTA to stop using flashing blue LEDs lights on S79 SBS |
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Posted by WayneJay on Thu Sep 13 11:15:56 2012, in response to Re: Lanza, Ignizio ask MTA to stop using flashing blue LEDs lights on S79 SBS, posted by mci guy on Wed Sep 12 15:03:17 2012. I can't say what it's like on the Orion 7NG SBS buses. Keep in mind, my issue wasn't with the blue lights mounted next to the destination sign. The New Flyers that were on the Bx12SBS had a third flashing blue light behind the windshield. At night that rapidly flashing light wasn't much different from those of an emergency vehicle which is the light I found to be annoying. |
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Re: Lanza, Ignizio ask MTA to stop using flashing blue LEDs lights on S79 SBS |
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Posted by mci guy on Thu Sep 13 13:40:10 2012, in response to Re: Lanza, Ignizio ask MTA to stop using flashing blue LEDs lights on S79 SBS, posted by WayneJay on Thu Sep 13 11:15:56 2012. what happened with this blue light issue on m15 and bx12 sbs routes. |
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Re: Lanza, Ignizio ask MTA to stop using flashing blue LEDs lights on S79 SBS |
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Posted by WayneJay on Thu Sep 13 15:04:24 2012, in response to Re: Lanza, Ignizio ask MTA to stop using flashing blue LEDs lights on S79 SBS, posted by mci guy on Thu Sep 13 13:40:10 2012. The Bx12SBS now uses the Nova LFS-A which (IIRC) has just the two blue lights near the destination sign. I don't know for sure, but I suspect the others were referring to those blue lights. |
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Re: Lanza, Ignizio ask MTA to stop using flashing blue LEDs lights on S79 SBS |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Thu Sep 13 21:39:36 2012, in response to Re: Lanza, Ignizio ask MTA to stop using flashing blue LEDs lights on S79 SBS, posted by mci guy on Thu Sep 13 13:40:10 2012. The blue lights flash steady on and off rather than a rapid on/off cycle. |
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Re: Lanza, Ignizio ask MTA to stop using flashing blue LEDs lights on S79 SBS |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Fri Sep 14 09:44:33 2012, in response to Re: Lanza, Ignizio ask MTA to stop using flashing blue LEDs lights on S79 SBS, posted by Train2104 on Tue Sep 11 23:12:10 2012. Since there is no prepaying on the S79, exactly what purpose do the blue lights serve anyway? |
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Re: Lanza, Ignizio ask MTA to stop using flashing blue LEDs lights on S79 SBS |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Fri Sep 14 09:46:31 2012, in response to Re: Lanza, Ignizio ask MTA to stop using flashing blue LEDs lights on S79 SBS, posted by jasonbellamy on Wed Sep 12 17:17:53 2012. I just made the same point before reading your post. What purpose do they serve without POP? |
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Re: Lanza, Ignizio ask MTA to stop using flashing blue LEDs lights on S79 SBS |
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Posted by Brett on Fri Sep 14 11:24:48 2012, in response to Lanza, Ignizio ask MTA to stop using flashing blue LEDs lights on S79 SBS, posted by Gold_12TH on Tue Sep 11 21:54:57 2012. People will just find the stupidest shit to complain about. I drive, I've seen those SBS buses, and the blue lights don't bother me one bit. Some politicians just need to learn to stop bitching. |
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