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Staten Island Fantasy Map (56k)

Posted by Osmosis Jones on Thu Jun 2 16:24:33 2011

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Just a fantasy map I drew up out of boredom, some notes though:

The S42 and S66 would be eliminated.

The S51/S81, S53, S55/S56 (don't know what to do with those hopeless routes), S62/S92, S76/S86, and S79 would all remain the same.

S40/S90:


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S44/S94:


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S46/S96:


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S48/S98:


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S52:


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S54:


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S57:


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S58:


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S59:


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S61/S91:


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S67:


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S71:


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S73:


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S74/S84:


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S77:


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S78:


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S89:


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S93:


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So what do you guys think?

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Re: Staten Island Fantasy Map (56k)

Posted by mike nash on Thu Jun 2 16:43:15 2011, in response to Staten Island Fantasy Map (56k), posted by Osmosis Jones on Thu Jun 2 16:24:33 2011.

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where are the 53 & 79

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Re: Staten Island Fantasy Map (56k)

Posted by LRG5784 on Thu Jun 2 16:54:33 2011, in response to Re: Staten Island Fantasy Map (56k), posted by mike nash on Thu Jun 2 16:43:15 2011.

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They are not included because he didn't alter those routes. He specified that, as well as the other routes he did not alter, before posting the maps.

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Re: Staten Island Fantasy Map (56k)

Posted by Train2104 on Thu Jun 2 17:25:47 2011, in response to Re: Staten Island Fantasy Map (56k), posted by LRG5784 on Thu Jun 2 16:54:33 2011.

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My S40/S90 proposal: Blue is daily except 11PM-5AM, red extension is a couple of rush hour trips only. During overnight hours, service terminates at Forest Av/South Av (or Forest/Goethals Rd if ridership warrants)


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Re: Staten Island Fantasy Map (56k)

Posted by Train2104 on Thu Jun 2 17:28:44 2011, in response to Re: Staten Island Fantasy Map (56k), posted by Train2104 on Thu Jun 2 17:25:47 2011.

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You'll have to zoom in to SI manually, not sure why that happens.

Basically the blue line goes to Elizabeth NJT and the red goes to the airport.

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Re: Staten Island Fantasy Map (56k)

Posted by checkmatechamp13 on Thu Jun 2 17:50:52 2011, in response to Staten Island Fantasy Map (56k), posted by Osmosis Jones on Thu Jun 2 16:24:33 2011.

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I'll post more comments later on, but for starters, why does Forest Avenue west of South Avenue get so much service when there is very little ridership there?

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Re: Staten Island Fantasy Map (56k)

Posted by Osmosis Jones on Thu Jun 2 18:54:04 2011, in response to Re: Staten Island Fantasy Map (56k), posted by checkmatechamp13 on Thu Jun 2 17:50:52 2011.

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I didn't want to end the S44/S94 at Forest Avenue & Grandview Avenue because I wanted to see if there's demand between the Movie Theater/Home Depot on Forest Avenue and the area of Mariners Harbor that the S44/S94 would serve.

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Re: Staten Island Fantasy Map (56k)

Posted by Osmosis Jones on Thu Jun 2 21:10:20 2011, in response to Staten Island Fantasy Map (56k), posted by Osmosis Jones on Thu Jun 2 16:24:33 2011.

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Hmm 100 views and no critique, what gives?

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Re: Staten Island Fantasy Map (56k)

Posted by checkmatechamp13 on Thu Jun 2 23:21:39 2011, in response to Staten Island Fantasy Map (56k), posted by Osmosis Jones on Thu Jun 2 16:24:33 2011.

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I would do things differently, but I guess you can do what you want since it is your fantasy map. I just have a couple of comments:

The reason why the S46 takes the shorter route to Mariners' Harbor is because it takes a long time to travel along certain sections of Castleton Avenue. Castleton Avenue is a fairly busy corridor, so it spends a lot of time loading passengers and stopping at the traffic lights there. I think the better solution would be to shift some buses from the S44 to the S46.

I think the S48 should continue to serve Arlington, since that would generate more ridership. The only things west of South Avenue are a movie theater, Home Depot, and a trailer park. However, along South Avenue, there are more homes, as well as the Mariners' Harbor Houses and Arlington Terrace Apartments.

I think the shorter S52 is better suited to serving New Brighton than the longer S44.

The S58 route would get low ridership because of all the time it would spend in the Greenbelt, as well as the circuituous route it would take in New Springville.

I don't think the S59 detour to CSI is necessary, as it would delay the route too much. I think having all S62 and S93 buses that currently short-turn at CSI extended to Richmond Avenue (or further) would be a better solution to the lack of north-south service to CSI. Passengers going noerthbound don't even save that much time taking the bus, as there is a shortcut to Richmond Avenue along Christopher Lane, which I've found faster to take even if an S62 was approaching.

Your S71 terminates in the middle of nowhere. A better solution to serve Perth Amboy would be to either split the S74 at the Eltingville Transit Center, and have the western half extended to Perth Amboy, or send the S56 there (yes, it would bypass Tottenville High School, but it would serve Bricktowne, and there could always be S56 trippers from Tottenville H.S.)

By the way, what would be the scheduling and span of your routes? Just list the routes that you would change the span of, as well as the new routes that you created (S58, S71, etc)

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Re: Staten Island Fantasy Map (56k)

Posted by Q101 E. MIDTOWN 2 AV on Thu Jun 2 23:36:19 2011, in response to Staten Island Fantasy Map (56k), posted by Osmosis Jones on Thu Jun 2 16:24:33 2011.

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I think your Perth Amboy route idea would be better suited serving the Bricktown Mall and/or SI Mall.

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Re: Staten Island Fantasy Map (56k)

Posted by Hank EisenStein on Fri Jun 3 06:39:01 2011, in response to Staten Island Fantasy Map (56k), posted by Osmosis Jones on Thu Jun 2 16:24:33 2011.

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Many of your fantasies, particularly the routes you've invented, show you know absolutely nothing of the reality of travel on Staten Island.

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Re: Staten Island Fantasy Map (56k)

Posted by (SIR) North Shore Line on Fri Jun 3 07:58:01 2011, in response to Staten Island Fantasy Map (56k), posted by Osmosis Jones on Thu Jun 2 16:24:33 2011.

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It's interesting but most of those routes wouldn't work out well. Things are sort of fine now, it's just that certain routes need to be consolidated, could benefit from an extension, need more local/limited service or could use a branch to connect with New Jersey. I want nothing more at this point than a S53 limited & buses that actually make it on-time to the ferry even if that means the drivers have to run a little early because the scheduled time to arrive at St. George is 8:59am for example.

You're giving bus coverage to areas where there would be little to no ridership and changing lines that already see good ridership.

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Re: Staten Island Fantasy Map (56k)

Posted by Osmosis Jones on Fri Jun 3 11:37:16 2011, in response to Re: Staten Island Fantasy Map (56k), posted by Hank EisenStein on Fri Jun 3 06:39:01 2011.

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Which is why you can't specifically back up your poor statement.

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Re: Staten Island Fantasy Map (56k)

Posted by Osmosis Jones on Fri Jun 3 11:53:24 2011, in response to Re: Staten Island Fantasy Map (56k), posted by checkmatechamp13 on Thu Jun 2 23:21:39 2011.

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The reason why the S46 takes the shorter route to Mariners' Harbor is because it takes a long time to travel along certain sections of Castleton Avenue. Castleton Avenue is a fairly busy corridor, so it spends a lot of time loading passengers and stopping at the traffic lights there. I think the better solution would be to shift some buses from the S44 to the S46.

I just swapped them for passenger distribution purposes. The S46 is packed by the time it usually reaches Jewett Avenue while the S44 usually has seats available at that point.

I think the S48 should continue to serve Arlington, since that would generate more ridership. The only things west of South Avenue are a movie theater, Home Depot, and a trailer park. However, along South Avenue, there are more homes, as well as the Mariners' Harbor Houses and Arlington Terrace Apartments.

I wanted to give Forest Avenue one route for its entirety, and make it easier to get to Staten Island's largest movie theater. The S67 would still provide service to Forest Avenue west of Richmond Avenue though, but is that enough?

I think the shorter S52 is better suited to serving New Brighton than the longer S44.

I wanted the S44 to cover the S42 because it can also serve the Clyde Place-Arnold Street area. I also understand that the S52 not going all the way up to Richmond Terrace anymore hinders its purpose as a cross-island route.

The S58 route would get low ridership because of all the time it would spend in the Greenbelt, as well as the circuituous route it would take in New Springville.

The S58's purpose is just to make getting across the island at that point easier, and also to connect Midland Beach to the New Dorp shopping area. I figured that people would use it as a "shortcut" to the Mall and College, in addition to Staten Island's only DMV at West Shore Plaza. Maybe it would get better ridership if it served more of Travis?

I don't think the S59 detour to CSI is necessary, as it would delay the route too much. I think having all S62 and S93 buses that currently short-turn at CSI extended to Richmond Avenue (or further) would be a better solution to the lack of north-south service to CSI. Passengers going noerthbound don't even save that much time taking the bus, as there is a shortcut to Richmond Avenue along Christopher Lane, which I've found faster to take even if an S62 was approaching.

I wanted to reroute the S59 there to finally give the College of Staten Island a north-south bus route, but maybe extended to Eltingville version of the S61/S91 can do that job.

Your S71 terminates in the middle of nowhere. A better solution to serve Perth Amboy would be to either split the S74 at the Eltingville Transit Center, and have the western half extended to Perth Amboy, or send the S56 there (yes, it would bypass Tottenville High School, but it would serve Bricktowne, and there could always be S56 trippers from Tottenville H.S.)

I wanted the route to fulfill two purposes. One is of course finally providing service to Perth Amboy, while the other is to connect Staten Island University Hospital with the SIR so workers from the North Shore would no longer have to take the slower S78.

By the way, what would be the scheduling and span of your routes? Just list the routes that you would change the span of, as well as the new routes that you created (S58, S71, etc)

S58: 6AM-11PM all week

S67: 5AM-1AM all week

S71: 24/7

S73: 24/7 to Richmondtown, 5AM-1AM to Staten Island Mall

S77: 6AM-11PM all week

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Re: Staten Island Fantasy Map (56k)

Posted by Osmosis Jones on Fri Jun 3 11:54:02 2011, in response to Re: Staten Island Fantasy Map (56k), posted by Q101 E. MIDTOWN 2 AV on Thu Jun 2 23:36:19 2011.

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It serves Bricktown, but not the SI Mall.

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Re: Staten Island Fantasy Map (56k)

Posted by Osmosis Jones on Fri Jun 3 11:57:58 2011, in response to Re: Staten Island Fantasy Map (56k), posted by (SIR) North Shore Line on Fri Jun 3 07:58:01 2011.

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Like I told Hank, I can't know what you're talking about unless you give me specifics although your criticism was still much more specific and constructive than his was.

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Re: Staten Island Fantasy Map (56k)

Posted by Hank Eisenstein on Fri Jun 3 12:21:22 2011, in response to Re: Staten Island Fantasy Map (56k), posted by Osmosis Jones on Fri Jun 3 11:37:16 2011.

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Back it up? Sure I can. You're running a route to Perth Amboy not from a park and ride, or a major transfer point, but from Richmond Memorial Hospital. It touches no major population areas on Staten Island.

You've got a route that essentially duplicates the existing 74, and serves the mall. No reason for this with the ease or transfers at Arthur Kill and Richmond.

You're running a route from Midland Beach to West Shore Plaza via CSI and the Mall. Your route takes turns even cooked spaghetti wouldn't follow.

You adjust the 74 so it actually gets further away from potential passengers who would use it.

You're running the 59 to the Ferry for no good reason, given your extension of the 46 in your fantasy.

You extend the 61 to the Eltingville Transit Center (which is really in Greenridge, but I digress...) when there's no destination on the route that can't be reached by existing routes that stop there.

You zig-zag a local bus on residential streets that aren't suited for regular local bus service. And again, this duplicates nearby services.

You extend a route that was established to serve a particular group of commuters to a destination that can already be reached by another route with the same origination point, and other routes that already exist.

You don't take into account what streets on Staten Island are actually suitable for bus service; you don't take into account what the actual ridership demographics are on the south shore; and you connect points that are either already connected via other means or have no demand whatsoever for such service.

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Re: Staten Island Fantasy Map (56k)

Posted by Hank Eisenstein on Fri Jun 3 12:23:37 2011, in response to Re: Staten Island Fantasy Map (56k), posted by Osmosis Jones on Fri Jun 3 11:57:58 2011.

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My criticism was for your overall plan. One thing I did like was the 48 being contiguous with Forest Ave.

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Re: Staten Island Fantasy Map (56k)

Posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Jun 3 12:57:14 2011, in response to Re: Staten Island Fantasy Map (56k), posted by Hank Eisenstein on Fri Jun 3 12:21:22 2011.

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Re: Staten Island Fantasy Map (56k)

Posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Jun 3 12:57:23 2011, in response to Re: Staten Island Fantasy Map (56k), posted by Osmosis Jones on Fri Jun 3 11:37:16 2011.

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Not smart.

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Re: Staten Island Fantasy Map (56k)

Posted by (SIR) North Shore Line on Fri Jun 3 14:19:38 2011, in response to Staten Island Fantasy Map (56k), posted by Osmosis Jones on Thu Jun 2 16:24:33 2011.

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Something I realized recently is that the MTA doesn't branch off routes in Staten Island or have nearly enough "rush hour extensions" as other boroughs. I gave your routes a second look and they all actually make perfect sense to me. I would send those plans in to the MTA!

It covers a lot more areas & it wouldn't hurt to have two bus lines running on the same street (S73 & S74 on richmond road & S77/S78 on Hylan Blvd for example) as long as the scheduling works. If there's better coverage and less transferring involved then more people would ride the buses.

The S44/S94 would do better if it ended at West Shore Plaza and have the S40/S90 terminate at Gothaels Rd instead with the S48. If you want the SI Mall you would have either Castleton Avenue or Richmond Terrace which is better because the SI Mall needs more & faster access from all over the Island instead of a couple of routes & having to transfer.

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Re: Staten Island Fantasy Map (56k)

Posted by Hank Eisenstein on Fri Jun 3 14:57:32 2011, in response to Re: Staten Island Fantasy Map (56k), posted by (SIR) North Shore Line on Fri Jun 3 14:19:38 2011.

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Richmond Road already has two lines operating along most of its length (weekdays), the 74 and the 76. These are each supplemented by a limited (84, 86, outbound only) during the PM Peak.

The mall has direct access daily from Victory Blvd, Richmond Ave, and Hylan Blvd buses, as well as the 44 whch runs between Forest and Richmond Terrace. From the south shore, there is direct weekday-only access via the 55 and 56, but it's clear from that service that there's really no ridership base for service outside of weekdays, and I'm quite surprised that these routes run all day, rather than just at their peak hours (6-9am and 2-5pm)

Having to transfer once is not a deterrent to local bus ridership. You're not going to get the people who don't currently take the bus to the mall to do so by eliminating the need to transfer.

Every route on Staten Island offers a transfer to a route that serves the mall.

Just like I used to tell people about highways, you don't need an interstate route between every destination pair. They don't all need it, and it's a waste of resources to provide it.

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Re: Staten Island Fantasy Map (56k)

Posted by Edwards! on Fri Jun 3 14:58:12 2011, in response to Re: Staten Island Fantasy Map (56k), posted by Hank Eisenstein on Fri Jun 3 12:21:22 2011.

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yup...though his S93 route is cool.

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Re: Staten Island Fantasy Map (56k)

Posted by Hank Eisenstein on Fri Jun 3 15:02:04 2011, in response to Re: Staten Island Fantasy Map (56k), posted by Edwards! on Fri Jun 3 14:58:12 2011.

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'Cool' doesn't mean 'useful'. Or even necessary. The 93 was established to serve one particular group of commuters, those between Brooklyn and CSI. If you're going from Brooklyn to the Mall, there's the 79, which could certainly use a limited-stop companion. The 79 even offers transfers to all but two routes the 93 offers transfers to.

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Re: Staten Island Fantasy Map (56k)

Posted by JAzumah on Fri Jun 3 15:43:36 2011, in response to Re: Staten Island Fantasy Map (56k), posted by Hank Eisenstein on Fri Jun 3 14:57:32 2011.

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+ a free donut from Dunkin Donuts since today is donut day

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Re: Staten Island Fantasy Map (56k)

Posted by Osmosis Jones on Fri Jun 3 15:44:45 2011, in response to Re: Staten Island Fantasy Map (56k), posted by (SIR) North Shore Line on Fri Jun 3 14:19:38 2011.

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thx im gonna refute hanks dumb argument when i get home

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Re: Staten Island Fantasy Map (56k)

Posted by Hank Eisenstein on Fri Jun 3 15:59:57 2011, in response to Re: Staten Island Fantasy Map (56k), posted by JAzumah on Fri Jun 3 15:43:36 2011.

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I wish I could have one, but I'm on a carb-restricted diet and it's working...I don't want to ruin it.

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Re: Staten Island Fantasy Map (56k)

Posted by Hank Eisenstein on Fri Jun 3 16:01:38 2011, in response to Re: Staten Island Fantasy Map (56k), posted by Osmosis Jones on Fri Jun 3 15:44:45 2011.

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I look forward to criticizing more of your fantasy crap.

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Re: Staten Island Fantasy Map (56k)

Posted by Osmosis Jones on Fri Jun 3 16:06:12 2011, in response to Re: Staten Island Fantasy Map (56k), posted by Hank Eisenstein on Fri Jun 3 16:01:38 2011.

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you dont even have any ideas you piece of shit and cant come up with any ideas half as good as mine so you hate on them to make youself feel better. Get a hooker so you can stop getting off on falsely criticizing my brilliant ideas for your sick pleasure

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Re: Staten Island Fantasy Map (56k)

Posted by Osmosis Jones on Fri Jun 3 16:08:36 2011, in response to Re: Staten Island Fantasy Map (56k), posted by Osmosis Jones on Fri Jun 3 16:06:12 2011.

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so you gonna keep talking shit so i can roast your bitch ass you wanna discuss this like men?

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Re: Staten Island Fantasy Map (56k)

Posted by Hank Eisenstein on Fri Jun 3 16:34:39 2011, in response to Re: Staten Island Fantasy Map (56k), posted by Osmosis Jones on Fri Jun 3 16:06:12 2011.

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That's some way to refute my criticism. First you call my CRITICISM dumb, and now you call ME a piece of shit, while calling my criticism 'false' without further explanation. Are you taking a page from the Anti-Terrapin School of Debate? Ignore the issues, and insult your opponent?

I've had no reason to insult YOU until now. I called your FANTASIES crap, in the face of your response calling my ARGUMENT dumb.

I'll give you one more chance to be civil.

I've lived on Staten Island for 31 years, all of it on the south shore; I know the neighborhoods, I know the demographics, and I know the political and physical realities of living here.

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Re: Staten Island Fantasy Map (56k)

Posted by Osmosis Jones on Fri Jun 3 16:53:12 2011, in response to Re: Staten Island Fantasy Map (56k), posted by Hank Eisenstein on Fri Jun 3 16:34:39 2011.

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ok so you chose getting roasted, not surprising knowing how much of a bitch you are. You never post nothing of substance here, you strictly come here to be a bitch ass hater and lapdog why do i always see you criticizing other peoples ideas and photos when youve never posted any of your own. Its a shame that you were man enough to simplh criticize me like sir and checkmate and had to go the bitch route by saying i dont know anything about staten island when ive ridden every route down there from end to end. BTW can anyone link me to a thread where hank posted photos, ideas, or even transit news?

Lol fuck your little chance ill show you where to put it. Wtf you gonna do?

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Re: Staten Island Fantasy Map (56k)

Posted by Hank eisenstein on Fri Jun 3 17:26:33 2011, in response to Re: Staten Island Fantasy Map (56k), posted by Osmosis Jones on Fri Jun 3 16:53:12 2011.

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Laugh at your ignorance and ridiculous threats.
Riding every route makes you no more an expert on Staten Island transit needs than riding a bus makes me qualified to drive it.

And I believe I was more than man enough to criticize your ideas; you asked for specifics, and I provided them. You're the one persistently lowering the bar.

Telling someone to 'put up or shut up' in an argument, and then declaring victory when your opponent decides you're not worth the intellectual effort is a fine way to declare your 'victory' whilst continuing to display your ignorance.

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Re: Staten Island Fantasy Map (56k)

Posted by Osmosis Jones on Fri Jun 3 17:41:17 2011, in response to Re: Staten Island Fantasy Map (56k), posted by Hank eisenstein on Fri Jun 3 17:26:33 2011.

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i know more about them than you. I let you slide after you said i dont know anything but im not playing getting disrespected twice.

I won this argument before it begun, it's clear to everyone that youre just here to be a bitch ass hater and lapdog now my point is proven. Ive seen your "smarts" and youre really no where near as smart as you think you are, and i know im not the only one to see this because no one here seriously debates with you because of your silly attitude. Get off your fake high horse because no one here buys into it and contribute to this board or you can keep on being a bitch and exposing yourself for me.

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Re: Staten Island Fantasy Map (56k)

Posted by Hank eisenstein on Fri Jun 3 17:46:42 2011, in response to Re: Staten Island Fantasy Map (56k), posted by Osmosis Jones on Fri Jun 3 17:41:17 2011.

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Insults, empty threats, ad intimidation are the last gasp of a person in a debate with nothing intelligent left to say; if you had any intelligent response left, you'd have used it, instead of hurling insults and claiming victory.

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Re: Staten Island Fantasy Map (56k)

Posted by Osmosis Jones on Fri Jun 3 17:47:57 2011, in response to Re: Staten Island Fantasy Map (56k), posted by JAzumah on Fri Jun 3 15:43:36 2011.

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yea you have that same uppity attitude as hank because of your company but unlike him you at least have the smarts to back it up so ill give you that

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Re: Staten Island Fantasy Map (56k)

Posted by Osmosis Jones on Fri Jun 3 17:50:16 2011, in response to Re: Staten Island Fantasy Map (56k), posted by Hank eisenstein on Fri Jun 3 17:46:42 2011.

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more unwarranted pseudo-intellectualism from someone with no more logical, rational arugments to prove me wrong about his purpose here, not surprised

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Re: Staten Island Fantasy Map (56k)

Posted by Hank eisenstein on Fri Jun 3 17:54:45 2011, in response to Re: Staten Island Fantasy Map (56k), posted by Osmosis Jones on Fri Jun 3 17:50:16 2011.

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You still haven't responded to the specifics you asked me for, you're just continuing in this blind rage, claiming a phony victory. You ask for rational arguments, and you've presented NONE.

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Re: Staten Island Fantasy Map (56k)

Posted by Osmosis Jones on Fri Jun 3 17:57:22 2011, in response to Re: Staten Island Fantasy Map (56k), posted by Hank eisenstein on Fri Jun 3 17:54:45 2011.

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ill respond to them when i get home, if i wanted to respond to them since you havent proven yourself worthy of one. If you think you won this go ahead, but no one will believe u like no one believes in your supposed "smarts"

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Re: Staten Island Fantasy Map (56k)

Posted by Hank eisenstein on Fri Jun 3 18:02:48 2011, in response to Re: Staten Island Fantasy Map (56k), posted by Osmosis Jones on Fri Jun 3 17:57:22 2011.

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The more you continue down this path of arrogant ignorance you've chosen, the less likely I, or any reasonable person, would be likely to listen to your arguments.

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Re: Staten Island Fantasy Map (56k)

Posted by Osmosis Jones on Fri Jun 3 18:05:50 2011, in response to Re: Staten Island Fantasy Map (56k), posted by Hank eisenstein on Fri Jun 3 18:02:48 2011.

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only you agree with your twisted, dumbfounded definition of reason and i dont really care because i dont post here to get a rise off of others like you

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Re: Staten Island Fantasy Map (56k)

Posted by Hank eisenstein on Fri Jun 3 18:13:20 2011, in response to Re: Staten Island Fantasy Map (56k), posted by Osmosis Jones on Fri Jun 3 18:05:50 2011.

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I don't post here to get a rise out of others, either. I think just about everyone here would agree I've been nothing but reasonable and logical in my criticism of your fantasy routes. You're the one who decided throwing insults would be your response. I have my disagreements with a few people here, but I rarely go to the extent you have.

Screaming louder doesn't make your position any more sustainable now than it was 10 posts ago.

You're all alone on your little level. .

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Re: Staten Island Fantasy Map (56k)

Posted by Osmosis Jones on Fri Jun 3 18:18:25 2011, in response to Re: Staten Island Fantasy Map (56k), posted by Hank eisenstein on Fri Jun 3 18:13:20 2011.

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i dont care what anyone else thinks if you say i know nothing then call my ideas dumb im gonna take that as disrespect. Stop thinking thay everyone thinks like a bitch like u and man up and contribute to this board.

My level is way above yours and u can only dream about gettin a glimpse of it bitch

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Re: Staten Island Fantasy Map (56k)

Posted by Hank eisenstein on Fri Jun 3 18:29:32 2011, in response to Re: Staten Island Fantasy Map (56k), posted by Osmosis Jones on Fri Jun 3 18:18:25 2011.

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Take it as you want, it's simply my opinion of your idea, and a fact about your knowledge of my hometown. No disrespect was meant.

I contribute when I have something to contribute. I'm not into playing fantasy map games (anymore); I don't collect buses (real or toy); and i dont go out of my way to see them if they're not museum quality. I do, however, ride buses daily, and I'm a fan of mass transit in general. I enjoy participating in many of the threads that come up, seeing photos of locations I've yet to visit, and learning about many of the things that come up here. But I don't have to justify my participation to you, or anyone.

I'm still waiting for your reasonable response.

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Re: Staten Island Fantasy Map (56k)

Posted by Osmosis Jones on Fri Jun 3 18:46:45 2011, in response to Re: Staten Island Fantasy Map (56k), posted by Hank eisenstein on Fri Jun 3 18:29:32 2011.

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you know nothing about what i know, or about anything else really as i have exposed. You also knew exactly what you were getting into when you made those comments you made them on purpose just to get a rise out of it like the bitch troll u are.

Btw thanks for exposing youself as a member with nothing to offer but lamenting at others contributions, my job is done there.

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Re: Staten Island Fantasy Map (56k)

Posted by Hank eisenstein on Fri Jun 3 18:52:45 2011, in response to Re: Staten Island Fantasy Map (56k), posted by Osmosis Jones on Fri Jun 3 18:46:45 2011.

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You're right, I don't know what you know. I WAS at one point interested in finding out. But you're doing a fine job of showing that there isn't much to you beyond the childish insults you continue to spew.

The only thing exposed here is your blatant ignorance.

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Re: Staten Island Fantasy Map (56k)

Posted by Osmosis Jones on Fri Jun 3 18:57:16 2011, in response to Re: Staten Island Fantasy Map (56k), posted by Hank eisenstein on Fri Jun 3 18:52:45 2011.

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you havent manned up and learned your lesson not surprised as i already expect low from you now that your reason for being here is clearer to me now than when i stared suspecting it months ago

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Re: Staten Island Fantasy Map (56k)

Posted by Hank eisenstein on Fri Jun 3 19:08:57 2011, in response to Re: Staten Island Fantasy Map (56k), posted by Osmosis Jones on Fri Jun 3 18:57:16 2011.

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So in your mind, 'manning up' and 'learning my lesson' requires me stop expecting you to respond to my valid specific criticism of your fantasies, while you continue to insult and bait me into crawling in the mud with you? No thanks. I've got an ex-wife already.

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Re: Staten Island Fantasy Map (56k)

Posted by Osmosis Jones on Fri Jun 3 19:18:00 2011, in response to Re: Staten Island Fantasy Map (56k), posted by Hank eisenstein on Fri Jun 3 19:08:57 2011.

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lol dont quit your day job, which is probably flipping burgers knowing how smart you are. I have you all figured out, and you keep on playing into my exposure of you even after i informed you of my intentions like the idiot you are. Keep posting that youre better than this even though in a feeble attempt to convince yourself and others that you are even though you still keep on participating in it and anyone with a brain knows that youre full of shit.

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Re: Staten Island Fantasy Map (56k)

Posted by hank eisenstein on Fri Jun 3 21:07:59 2011, in response to Re: Staten Island Fantasy Map (56k), posted by Osmosis Jones on Fri Jun 3 19:18:00 2011.

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Do go on...the entertainment value of your posts is increasing.

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