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Bus Map History #2: "Bronx Bus Guide" map - 1974 (PDF files)

Posted by Gold_12th on Thu May 19 13:37:25 2011

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Here you go, download it right away . . .

Back:
Fuck Brian' Weinberg
Bx55 - 1 minute headway.

Front:
Fuck Brian' Weinberg
Pretty map ? ? ?



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Re: Bus Map History #2: ''Bronx Bus Guide'' map - 1974 (PDF files)

Posted by Gold_12th on Thu May 19 13:41:57 2011, in response to Bus Map History #2: "Bronx Bus Guide" map - 1974 (PDF files), posted by Gold_12th on Thu May 19 13:37:25 2011.

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BTW, their separate downloads:

the back: 36.3 MB
the front: 32.5 MB

Click which map you want and download.

Enjoy.

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Re: Bus Map History #2: ''Bronx Bus Guide'' map - 1974 (PDF files)

Posted by R36 #9346 on Thu May 19 14:32:17 2011, in response to Bus Map History #2: "Bronx Bus Guide" map - 1974 (PDF files), posted by Gold_12th on Thu May 19 13:37:25 2011.

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Bx55 - 1 minute headway.
A stark contrast from the 10- to 14-minute headway of today's Bx55.

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Re: Bus Map History #2: ''Bronx Bus Guide'' map - 1974 (PDF files)

Posted by Joe Saitta on Thu May 19 16:27:34 2011, in response to Bus Map History #2: "Bronx Bus Guide" map - 1974 (PDF files), posted by Gold_12th on Thu May 19 13:37:25 2011.

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Would anyone know if this map was designed by Massimo Vignelli, who did the subway maps starting in 1972?

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Re: Bus Map History #2: ''Bronx Bus Guide'' map - 1974 (PDF files)

Posted by Gold_12th on Thu May 19 16:47:55 2011, in response to Re: Bus Map History #2: ''Bronx Bus Guide'' map - 1974 (PDF files), posted by Joe Saitta on Thu May 19 16:27:34 2011.

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I really dont know... he probably did with the similar features to the subway map, before Michael Hertz's works shows up on some of the bus maps in 1977/8.

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Re: Bus Map History #2: ''Bronx Bus Guide'' map - 1974 (PDF files)

Posted by Train2104 on Thu May 19 18:46:05 2011, in response to Re: Bus Map History #2: ''Bronx Bus Guide'' map - 1974 (PDF files), posted by Gold_12th on Thu May 19 16:47:55 2011.

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What order are you doing these in?

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Re: Bus Map History #2: ''Bronx Bus Guide'' map - 1974 (PDF files)

Posted by AMoreira81 on Thu May 19 19:26:49 2011, in response to Bus Map History #2: "Bronx Bus Guide" map - 1974 (PDF files), posted by Gold_12th on Thu May 19 13:37:25 2011.

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Thank you very much...I downloaded the front and am currently downloading the back.

I also notice that some routes were simply renumbered in the 1984 redrawing (i.e., the Bx20 became the Bx9).

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Re: Bus Map History #2: ''Bronx Bus Guide'' map - 1974 (PDF files)

Posted by Q101 E. MIDTOWN 2 AV on Thu May 19 20:14:59 2011, in response to Bus Map History #2: "Bronx Bus Guide" map - 1974 (PDF files), posted by Gold_12th on Thu May 19 13:37:25 2011.

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Why are there two Bx34s in this map(with different colors)?

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Re: Bus Map History #2: ''Bronx Bus Guide'' map - 1974 (PDF files)

Posted by WayneJay on Thu May 19 20:41:55 2011, in response to Re: Bus Map History #2: ''Bronx Bus Guide'' map - 1974 (PDF files), posted by R36 #9346 on Thu May 19 14:32:17 2011.

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Yup - In those days on the main part of the Bx55 (161st to Fordham Rd) they almost always could be seen in pairs. The Bx55 was often a good and fast ride as they went southbound along Washington Ave and northbound along Third Ave.

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Re: Bus Map History #2: ''Bronx Bus Guide'' map - 1974 (PDF files)

Posted by WayneJay on Thu May 19 20:54:29 2011, in response to Re: Bus Map History #2: ''Bronx Bus Guide'' map - 1974 (PDF files), posted by Q101 E. MIDTOWN 2 AV on Thu May 19 20:14:59 2011.

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In those days there was the regular Bx34 (now Bx6) and there was also a Bx34A Shuttle which operated around the Hunts Point market.

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Re: Bus Map History #2: ''Bronx Bus Guide'' map - 1974 (PDF files)

Posted by WayneJay on Thu May 19 20:58:52 2011, in response to Re: Bus Map History #2: ''Bronx Bus Guide'' map - 1974 (PDF files), posted by AMoreira81 on Thu May 19 19:26:49 2011.

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Many of the '84 changes were simply routes renumbered, while others had route changes.



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Re: Bus Map History #2: ''Bronx Bus Guide'' map - 1974 (PDF files)

Posted by AMoreira81 on Thu May 19 21:17:34 2011, in response to Re: Bus Map History #2: ''Bronx Bus Guide'' map - 1974 (PDF files), posted by WayneJay on Thu May 19 20:41:55 2011.

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Curious---when did Third Avenue become two-way through Morrisania? It seems odd today that that street would be one-way.

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Re: Bus Map History #2: ''Bronx Bus Guide'' map - 1974 (PDF files)

Posted by WayneJay on Thu May 19 22:51:05 2011, in response to Re: Bus Map History #2: ''Bronx Bus Guide'' map - 1974 (PDF files), posted by AMoreira81 on Thu May 19 21:17:34 2011.

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Traffic flow Third Ave between 163rd and 186th Streets became one-way, northbound in 1973 when Third Ave el service ended and Bx-55 service started. I don't remember the exact year that Third Ave between 163rd and 186th streets was converted back to two-way traffic, but I think it happended in the early 1980s.

I was a fan of the one-way Third Ave (and soundbound Bx-55 and Bx-29 (now Bx15 on Washington Ave). In those days the buses made really good time. Now it's often pretty slow along Third Ave since it was converted back to two-way traffic pattern. Also, the fact that nearly all of the intersections having a traffic light also slowed the flow.

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Re: Bus Map History #2: ''Bronx Bus Guide'' map - 1974 (PDF files)

Posted by Gold_12th on Thu May 19 22:56:29 2011, in response to Re: Bus Map History #2: ''Bronx Bus Guide'' map - 1974 (PDF files), posted by Train2104 on Thu May 19 18:46:05 2011.

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Queens map is next; tomorrow. followed by Nassau expecting this weekend.

If I have time next week: Brooklyn will go, followed by Staten Island or Manhattan

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Re: Bus Map History #2: ''Bronx Bus Guide'' map - 1974 (PDF files)

Posted by Gold_12th on Thu May 19 22:57:30 2011, in response to Re: Bus Map History #2: ''Bronx Bus Guide'' map - 1974 (PDF files), posted by AMoreira81 on Thu May 19 19:26:49 2011.

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You're welcome.

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(Bx34 Shuttle) Re: Bus Map History #2: ''Bronx Bus Guide'' map - 1974 (PDF files)

Posted by Gold_12th on Fri May 20 01:23:45 2011, in response to Re: Bus Map History #2: ''Bronx Bus Guide'' map - 1974 (PDF files), posted by WayneJay on Thu May 19 20:54:29 2011.

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Map notes:


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Re: (Bx34 Shuttle) Re: Bus Map History #2: ''Bronx Bus Guide'' map - 1974 (PDF files)

Posted by WayneJay on Fri May 20 09:22:51 2011, in response to (Bx34 Shuttle) Re: Bus Map History #2: ''Bronx Bus Guide'' map - 1974 (PDF files), posted by Gold_12th on Fri May 20 01:23:45 2011.

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Yes, at that point the TA had dropped all of the lettered suffixes on Bronx route designations, but that shuttle used to be the Bx-34A.

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Re: (Bx34 Shuttle) Re: Bus Map History #2: ''Bronx Bus Guide'' map - 1974 (PDF files)

Posted by Larry,RedbirdR33 on Fri May 20 17:32:18 2011, in response to Re: (Bx34 Shuttle) Re: Bus Map History #2: ''Bronx Bus Guide'' map - 1974 (PDF files), posted by WayneJay on Fri May 20 09:22:51 2011.

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Wayne: I remember that well. The re-numbering became effective on July 1, 1974 just before the map was issued. Gone was the alphabet soup of multiple bus designations. The Bx12A,B and C all became the Bx 12. The Bx 15A became the Bx 6, the Bx15B became the Bx 19 and the Bx15C (Allerton Avenue) got back its rightful route number , Bx 17.

I did not know that the Food Center Shuttle had been designated Bx34A. Thanks for that bit of information.

Larry, RedbirdR33

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Re: Bus Map History #2: ''Bronx Bus Guide'' map - 1974 (PDF files)

Posted by Gold_12th on Fri May 20 21:54:14 2011, in response to Re: Bus Map History #2: ''Bronx Bus Guide'' map - 1974 (PDF files), posted by Gold_12th on Thu May 19 22:56:29 2011.

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Change plans:
The Queens Map will go up on Saturday.

Nassau map will probably go up Monday.

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