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Re: MTA delivery schedule; bus #; assignements: New Flyer CNG, Prevost,& [add 60 express bus order too]

Posted by Gold_12th on Mon Apr 11 16:17:03 2011, in response to Re: MTA delivery schedule; bus #; assignements: New Flyer CNG, Prevost,& [add 60 express bus order too], posted by daimlerbuses on Mon Apr 11 16:14:50 2011.

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I provide proof of the document, how is it so hard to understand. Unbelievable.

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Re: MTA delivery schedule; bus #; assignements: New Flyer CNG, Prevost,& [add 60 express bus order too]

Posted by daimlerbuses on Mon Apr 11 16:17:19 2011, in response to Re: MTA delivery schedule; bus #; assignements: New Flyer CNG, Prevost,& [add 60 express bus order too], posted by Gold_12th on Mon Apr 11 16:14:39 2011.

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We are talking about the process used to administer bids, NOT the fact that there are obviously multiple manufacturers bidding. Given how much you paraphrase from other sources and post MTA board meeting minutes, I would expect you to know the difference between RFP, competitive bid, sole source, negotiated contract, etc.

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Re: MTA delivery schedule; bus #; assignements: New Flyer CNG, Prevost,& [add 60 express bus order too]

Posted by Gold_12th on Mon Apr 11 16:20:03 2011, in response to Re: MTA delivery schedule; bus #; assignements: New Flyer CNG, Prevost,& [add 60 express bus order too], posted by daimlerbuses on Mon Apr 11 16:17:19 2011.

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I would expect you to know what the word "competitive bid". Thats all. The document proves it. Stop being a hot head for god shake.

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Re: MTA delivery schedule; bus #; assignements: New Flyer CNG, Prevost,& [add 60 express bus order too]

Posted by (SIR) North Shore Line on Mon Apr 11 16:21:20 2011, in response to Re: MTA delivery schedule; bus #; assignements: New Flyer CNG, Prevost,& [add 60 express bus order too], posted by Gold_12th on Mon Apr 11 15:51:01 2011.

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Wasn't it mentioned a while back that CNG bus order was going to be Orion NGs?

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Re: MTA delivery schedule; bus #; assignements: New Flyer CNG, Prevost,& [add 60 express bus order too]

Posted by Edwards! on Mon Apr 11 16:29:18 2011, in response to Re: MTA delivery schedule; bus #; assignements: New Flyer CNG, Prevost,& [add 60 express bus order too], posted by Gold_12th on Mon Apr 11 16:20:03 2011.

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But he's RIGHT..and YOUR right..in a way.

so he's NOT being a hot head..hes telling the truth..

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Re: MTA delivery schedule; bus #; assignements: New Flyer CNG, Prevost,& [add 60 express bus order too]

Posted by Gold_12th on Mon Apr 11 17:25:45 2011, in response to Re: MTA delivery schedule; bus #; assignements: New Flyer CNG, Prevost,& [add 60 express bus order too], posted by Gold_12th on Mon Apr 11 16:11:29 2011.

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Which one is true from "daimlerbuses" response:
Post# 229869: "A RFP is not exactly considered a competitive bid, because price is never the single overriding factor and only plays a small role in evaluating proposals. The MTA board document might imply such a thing, but it is not the case."

or

Post #226935: "It still is competitive bidding, except in a RFP price is not the single overriding factor, there are other things that are considered such as delivery time, warranty, meeting specifications, etc."

Your choice....

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Re: MTA delivery schedule; bus #; assignements: New Flyer CNG, Prevost,& [add 60 express bus order too]

Posted by Gold_12th on Mon Apr 11 17:26:09 2011, in response to Re: MTA delivery schedule; bus #; assignements: New Flyer CNG, Prevost,& [add 60 express bus order too], posted by Edwards! on Mon Apr 11 16:29:18 2011.

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Which one is true from "daimlerbuses" response:
Post# 229869: "A RFP is not exactly considered a competitive bid, because price is never the single overriding factor and only plays a small role in evaluating proposals. The MTA board document might imply such a thing, but it is not the case."

or

Post #226935: "It still is competitive bidding, except in a RFP price is not the single overriding factor, there are other things that are considered such as delivery time, warranty, meeting specifications, etc."

Your choice....

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Re: MTA delivery schedule; bus #; assignements: New Flyer CNG, Prevost,& [add 60 express bus order too]

Posted by BedStuyguy on Mon Apr 11 17:51:45 2011, in response to Re: MTA delivery schedule; bus #; assignements: New Flyer CNG, Prevost,& [add 60 express bus order too], posted by Gold_12th on Mon Apr 11 17:25:45 2011.

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You know what, I apologize for that comment. We shall see. You could be right.

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Re: MTA delivery schedule; bus #; assignements: New Flyer CNG, Prevost,& [add 60 express bus order too]

Posted by Hank Eisenstein on Mon Apr 11 18:18:38 2011, in response to Re: MTA delivery schedule; bus #; assignements: New Flyer CNG, Prevost,& [add 60 express bus order too], posted by 9 local on Mon Apr 11 09:46:11 2011.

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You're misreading it. It's not a competitive BID, it's a RFP from which the best bid will be chosen. The difference is that a competitive bid is awarded on price, while the RFP is awarded on specs.

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Re: MTA delivery schedule; bus #; assignements: New Flyer CNG, Prevost,& [add 60 express bus order too]

Posted by Hank Eisenstein on Mon Apr 11 18:19:31 2011, in response to Re: MTA delivery schedule; bus #; assignements: New Flyer CNG, Prevost,& [add 60 express bus order too], posted by Gold_12th on Mon Apr 11 16:06:33 2011.

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You're not comprehending what you're reading. Look beyond the checkboxes.

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Re: MTA delivery schedule; bus #; assignements: New Flyer CNG, Prevost,& [add 60 express bus order too]

Posted by BedStuyguy on Tue Apr 12 10:13:28 2011, in response to Re: MTA delivery schedule; bus #; assignements: New Flyer CNG, Prevost,& [add 60 express bus order too], posted by Gold_12th on Mon Apr 11 16:20:03 2011.

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If the government wasnt funding this, MTA it wouldn't be this type of "competitive bid." The TA wants to just award the contract. We have NG's at LIB, and New Flyers coming in. Do you think the TA "really" needs proposals? Look outside the documents. I'm not going to post the document I have. We'll just wait and see.

@daimlerbuses - He's reading the documents for face value, but YOU and I KNOW how the TA and the industry operate. This is just a formal process that needs to be carried out.

@Edwards! - You' re right on the money. All we try to do is give him some correct info, but he's so stuck in his ways he always ends up left behind.

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Re: MTA delivery schedule; bus #; assignements: New Flyer CNG, Prevost,& [add 60 express bus order too]

Posted by Gold_12th on Tue Apr 12 11:35:09 2011, in response to Re: MTA delivery schedule; bus #; assignements: New Flyer CNG, Prevost,& [add 60 express bus order too], posted by BedStuyguy on Tue Apr 12 10:13:28 2011.

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What dont you understand competitive bidding?

Oh wait, you got the wrong info on Millennium Transit Service

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