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Re: MTA Long Island Bus... who really owns the bus vehicles? The answer will shock YOU! |
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Posted by RailBus63 on Sat Mar 26 23:45:37 2011, in response to MTA Long Island Bus... who really owns the bus vehicles? The answer will shock YOU!, posted by gOlD_12tH on Sat Mar 26 22:50:35 2011. Thanks for clarifying this. Sorry for all those who had fantasies of seeing these buses on B, Bx or Q routes. |
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Posted by r33/r36 mainline on Sat Mar 26 23:55:11 2011, in response to Re: MTA Long Island Bus... who really owns the bus vehicles? The answer will shock YOU!, posted by RailBus63 on Sat Mar 26 23:45:37 2011. I'm glad Nassau owns these buses, seeing these bastards on the B8, B68, etc would have been a nightmare (They have 2x2 seating) if they had NYCT style seating I wouldn't mind, oh well, looking forward to the LFRs... |
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Re: MTA Long Island Bus... who really owns the bus vehicles? The answer will shock YOU! |
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Posted by Grand Concourse on Sun Mar 27 00:11:07 2011, in response to Re: MTA Long Island Bus... who really owns the bus vehicles? The answer will shock YOU!, posted by r33/r36 mainline on Sat Mar 26 23:55:11 2011. Again, if the MTA were to have moved them to NYCT or MTA bus, they probably would've been reseated to the 2x1 arrangement. There's no way they would have 2x2 on the low floor buses. People don't move to the back as it is. |
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Re: MTA Long Island Bus... who really owns the bus vehicles? The answer will shock YOU! |
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Posted by error46146 on Sun Mar 27 00:29:03 2011, in response to MTA Long Island Bus... who really owns the bus vehicles? The answer will shock YOU!, posted by gOlD_12tH on Sat Mar 26 22:50:35 2011. fuck them they can keep their shit then...MTA still needs to pull out of long island 100% immediately |
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Re: MTA Long Island Bus... who really owns the bus vehicles? The answer will shock YOU! |
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Posted by Mac5689 on Sun Mar 27 00:29:52 2011, in response to MTA Long Island Bus... who really owns the bus vehicles? The answer will shock YOU!, posted by gOlD_12tH on Sat Mar 26 22:50:35 2011. Can i say something, How can the 2000-2002 Orion V's be numbered 1562-1632 and the 2004 Orion V's be numbered 1563-1699. Some numbers would have to be duplicated for that to happen, and don't think the MTA would do that? |
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Re: MTA Long Island Bus... who really owns the bus vehicles? The answer will shock YOU! |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Sun Mar 27 00:43:09 2011, in response to MTA Long Island Bus... who really owns the bus vehicles? The answer will shock YOU!, posted by gOlD_12tH on Sat Mar 26 22:50:35 2011. I'm not surprised. |
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Re: MTA Long Island Bus... who really owns the bus vehicles? The answer will shock YOU! |
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Posted by JAzumah on Sun Mar 27 02:22:32 2011, in response to MTA Long Island Bus... who really owns the bus vehicles? The answer will shock YOU!, posted by gOlD_12tH on Sat Mar 26 22:50:35 2011. Thanks for confirming this. I've only said it 6 or 7 times between here and NYCTF based on the bid documents I had. It was one of the first questions asked during the bid process. Hopefully, you won't have to create a post with a picture of the LIB NGs and have "Owned by Nassau County" scrolling across the bottom. |
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Posted by monorail on Sun Mar 27 05:59:19 2011, in response to MTA Long Island Bus... who really owns the bus vehicles? The answer will shock YOU!, posted by gOlD_12tH on Sat Mar 26 22:50:35 2011. oooooooo, I am so NOT shocked.... |
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Re: MTA Long Island Bus... who really owns the bus vehicles? The answer will shock YOU! |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Sun Mar 27 08:42:27 2011, in response to Re: MTA Long Island Bus... who really owns the bus vehicles? The answer will shock YOU!, posted by JAzumah on Sun Mar 27 02:22:32 2011. It's even noted on Wikipedia to that effect---all of the LIB fleet (except for the MCIs) are county vehicles. |
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Posted by The TransitMan on Sun Mar 27 09:01:53 2011, in response to MTA Long Island Bus... who really owns the bus vehicles? The answer will shock YOU!, posted by gOlD_12tH on Sat Mar 26 22:50:35 2011. So now we know Nassau owns all the buses. Ok, then why weren't 1700-1839 series slapped with the orange stripe? ***Or was that answer too mentioned on this site.*** |
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Re: MTA Long Island Bus... who really owns the bus vehicles? The answer will shock YOU! |
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Posted by The TransitMan on Sun Mar 27 09:56:23 2011, in response to Re: MTA Long Island Bus... who really owns the bus vehicles? The answer will shock YOU!, posted by The TransitMan on Sun Mar 27 09:01:53 2011. I asked because you DO realize that Nassau requires there buses to have BOTH orange and blue stripes on their buses. Otherwise, #1568 and #1602 would have remained in that blue stripe. AMoreiria should know because he took the picture of #1568 in blue. |
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Posted by Gotham Bus Co. on Sun Mar 27 10:14:47 2011, in response to Re: MTA Long Island Bus... who really owns the bus vehicles? The answer will shock YOU!, posted by The TransitMan on Sun Mar 27 09:56:23 2011. [...you DO realize that Nassau requires there buses to have BOTH orange and blue stripes on their buses.] That same agreement requires that Nassau actually PAY its bills to the MTA. Seems both sides are in breach of contract (though Nassau went first). |
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Posted by LRG5784 on Sun Mar 27 10:41:18 2011, in response to MTA Long Island Bus... who really owns the bus vehicles? The answer will shock YOU!, posted by gOlD_12tH on Sat Mar 26 22:50:35 2011. Thanks for the 411. |
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Posted by gOlD_12tH on Sun Mar 27 11:01:54 2011, in response to Re: MTA Long Island Bus... who really owns the bus vehicles? The answer will shock YOU!, posted by The TransitMan on Sun Mar 27 09:56:23 2011. Who cares about the paint scheme, for the movement.... They owned all their buses. |
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Posted by gOlD_12tH on Sun Mar 27 11:02:48 2011, in response to Re: MTA Long Island Bus... who really owns the bus vehicles? The answer will shock YOU!, posted by Gotham Bus Co. on Sun Mar 27 10:14:47 2011. Exactly. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Mar 27 11:03:20 2011, in response to Re: MTA Long Island Bus... who really owns the bus vehicles? The answer will shock YOU!, posted by AMoreira81 on Sun Mar 27 08:42:27 2011. Wow, I wonder who put it on wikipedia!?!?!?! |
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Posted by The TransitMan on Sun Mar 27 11:17:50 2011, in response to Re: MTA Long Island Bus... who really owns the bus vehicles? The answer will shock YOU!, posted by gOlD_12tH on Sun Mar 27 11:01:54 2011. Who cares? Um...the County! They bitch and maoned to the MTA about those Orion Vs in blue.You know what...you're right. Who gives a fuck. Nassau is going to hell! Problem solved! Thanks for clearing that up. |
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Re: MTA Long Island Bus... who really owns the bus vehicles? The answer will shock YOU! |
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Posted by gOlD_12tH on Sun Mar 27 11:32:42 2011, in response to Re: MTA Long Island Bus... who really owns the bus vehicles? The answer will shock YOU!, posted by The TransitMan on Sun Mar 27 11:17:50 2011. I agree, let me add...The paint scheme on the newer buses is just saving money because Nassau is cheap. Thats all. |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sun Mar 27 11:59:35 2011, in response to Re: MTA Long Island Bus... who really owns the bus vehicles? The answer will shock YOU!, posted by AMoreira81 on Sun Mar 27 08:42:27 2011. But if the person who made that statement here is the same person who made it on wiki, does that make it more credible? |
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Posted by r33/r36 mainline on Sun Mar 27 12:38:41 2011, in response to Re: MTA Long Island Bus... who really owns the bus vehicles? The answer will shock YOU!, posted by Grand Concourse on Sun Mar 27 00:11:07 2011. I highly doubt that, the MTA is broke, I'm certain if the 17/1800s came to NYC they would have left the seats the same. It would cost $$$$ to change the seats when there still in good condtition. |
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Posted by Joe V on Sun Mar 27 12:41:22 2011, in response to Re: MTA Long Island Bus... who really owns the bus vehicles? The answer will shock YOU!, posted by gOlD_12tH on Sun Mar 27 11:32:42 2011. If that were it, why did Magnano's predecessor Tom Suozzi, also a phuck-head, go ape$hit when two older buses lost their orange stripe ? |
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Posted by mac5689 on Sun Mar 27 12:43:07 2011, in response to Re: MTA Long Island Bus... who really owns the bus vehicles? The answer will shock YOU!, posted by The TransitMan on Sun Mar 27 11:17:50 2011. It was Suozzi that bitched and moaned about the MTA was changeing the paint on the Orion V's.But the Orion V's were actually purchesed by the county, where the Orion VII's were brought for Nassau though the MTA. So Nassau really wouldn't have a say in the paint scheme. |
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Posted by RailBus63 on Sun Mar 27 13:20:35 2011, in response to Re: MTA Long Island Bus... who really owns the bus vehicles? The answer will shock YOU!, posted by The TransitMan on Sun Mar 27 09:56:23 2011. Given the level of rancor between the two, I wouldn't be shocked if the county objected to the missing orange stripe and were told 'Pay the missing subsidy and we'll restore it'. The MTA was the buyer so Orion would have to follow their instructions. |
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Posted by N6 Limited on Sun Mar 27 15:13:23 2011, in response to Re: MTA Long Island Bus... who really owns the bus vehicles? The answer will shock YOU!, posted by error46146 on Sun Mar 27 00:29:03 2011. "MTA still needs to pull out of long island 100% immediately "Even Brooklyn and Queens? ;) |
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Posted by N6 Limited on Sun Mar 27 15:15:57 2011, in response to Re: MTA Long Island Bus... who really owns the bus vehicles? The answer will shock YOU!, posted by mac5689 on Sun Mar 27 12:43:07 2011. That orange stripe helps especially when in Queens and waiting at 179th st for bus to come. |
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Re: MTA Long Island Bus... who really owns the bus vehicles? [tramscript from the meeting] |
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Posted by gOlD_12tH on Sun Mar 27 15:28:29 2011, in response to MTA Long Island Bus... who really owns the bus vehicles? The answer will shock YOU!, posted by gOlD_12tH on Sat Mar 26 22:50:35 2011. MTA Board meeting press conference on Wednesday on Long Island Bus, buses issue.Reporter: "Who owns the equipment, the buses, the infrastructure, and does it payed it off?...Would they assume all the equipment if they owned the system?" Jay Walder: "The county owns the equipment. And it would go to them." (Shakes his head) Other reporter: "The county owns the depots as well?" Jay Walder: "The county owns the depot. The county owns the removable assets as well. The county owns all the equipment!" |
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Posted by kahlua on Sun Mar 27 15:44:22 2011, in response to Re: MTA Long Island Bus... who really owns the bus vehicles? The answer will shock YOU!, posted by N6 Limited on Sun Mar 27 15:15:57 2011. Thank you! It is hard to figure out whats a Nassau bus and whats a Queens bus along Hillside Av... That is until the N6 goes flying by at 45 right past you, as you flail your arms wildly... |
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Posted by The TransitMan on Sun Mar 27 15:52:20 2011, in response to Re: MTA Long Island Bus... who really owns the bus vehicles? The answer will shock YOU!, posted by mac5689 on Sun Mar 27 12:43:07 2011. Yes I know that! He wasn't the only one, which was why I answered "THEY". |
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Posted by Bee Flexible #823 on Sun Mar 27 16:20:44 2011, in response to Re: MTA Long Island Bus... who really owns the bus vehicles? The answer will shock YOU!, posted by The TransitMan on Sun Mar 27 15:52:20 2011. If 1700-1839 ARE OWNED AND OPERATED BY NASSAU COUNTY, then WHY did these buses come in ALL BLUE AND WHITE? If that's the case, then they should've came in with orange and blue on them. The only explanation that I can come up with is because they were trying to integrate themselves into NYCT/MTAB. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Mar 27 16:23:18 2011, in response to Re: MTA Long Island Bus... who really owns the bus vehicles? The answer will shock YOU!, posted by Bee Flexible #823 on Sun Mar 27 16:20:44 2011. lol |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Mar 27 16:25:16 2011, in response to Re: MTA Long Island Bus... who really owns the bus vehicles? The answer will shock YOU!, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sun Mar 27 11:59:35 2011. lol |
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Posted by TheGreatOne2k9 on Sun Mar 27 17:31:48 2011, in response to Re: MTA Long Island Bus... who really owns the bus vehicles? The answer will shock YOU!, posted by error46146 on Sun Mar 27 00:29:03 2011. MTA still needs to pull out of long island 100% immediatelyEven Q5 and Q85 to Green Acres Mall? ;) |
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Posted by The Flxible Neofan on Sun Mar 27 18:01:19 2011, in response to MTA Long Island Bus... who really owns the bus vehicles? The answer will shock YOU!, posted by gOlD_12tH on Sat Mar 26 22:50:35 2011. Thanks for the information. It seems like a lot of people were tricked by the absence of that orange stripe. It really would've been wierd if they were owned by the MTA, especially the 1700s with their lack of "MTA specs" (at least interior-wise).Honestly, it wouldn't be TOO hard for a contractor to operate LI Bus with all of the infrastructure and equipment already in place. |
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Posted by WayneJay on Sun Mar 27 18:33:14 2011, in response to MTA Long Island Bus... who really owns the bus vehicles? The answer will shock YOU!, posted by gOlD_12tH on Sat Mar 26 22:50:35 2011. That's great. I always hope that Nassau owned the LIB buses. Now, they just need to decide on which company to operate their service. Has it been this way since the MSBA days? I always suspected this to be the case and it makes sense that each MTA agency would own their equipment. After all... it's not the MTA that's the operating the equipment. |
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Posted by R40slantontheB on Sun Mar 27 18:57:26 2011, in response to Re: MTA Long Island Bus... who really owns the bus vehicles? The answer will shock YOU!, posted by error46146 on Sun Mar 27 00:29:03 2011. Then we'll form LITA (Long Island Transportation Authority) |
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Posted by orionviidieselbus on Sun Mar 27 19:32:08 2011, in response to Re: MTA Long Island Bus... who really owns the bus vehicles? The answer will shock YOU!, posted by R40slantontheB on Sun Mar 27 18:57:26 2011. That is a great idea to form LITA for LI Buses, it could take over MTA LIB, MTA LIRR, Suffolk County Transit, Huntington Area Rapid Transit and Long Beach Bus. |
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Posted by r33/r36 mainline on Sun Mar 27 19:41:32 2011, in response to Re: MTA Long Island Bus... who really owns the bus vehicles? The answer will shock YOU!, posted by R40slantontheB on Sun Mar 27 18:57:26 2011.  That sounds like something straight out of a GTA game lol. |
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Posted by WayneJay on Sun Mar 27 19:54:59 2011, in response to Re: MTA Long Island Bus... who really owns the bus vehicles? The answer will shock YOU!, posted by AMoreira81 on Sun Mar 27 08:42:27 2011. Sure, but I certainly wouldn't use info on Wikipedia as fact. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Mar 27 20:17:03 2011, in response to Re: MTA Long Island Bus... who really owns the bus vehicles? The answer will shock YOU!, posted by WayneJay on Sun Mar 27 19:54:59 2011. Uh, you're saying that to the guy who actually puts a lot of those "facts" ON TO wikipedia... |
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Posted by RailBus63 on Sun Mar 27 20:36:56 2011, in response to Re: MTA Long Island Bus... who really owns the bus vehicles? The answer will shock YOU!, posted by Bee Flexible #823 on Sun Mar 27 16:20:44 2011. Because MTA Regional Bus Operations wrote the specs and placed the order with Orion. Maybe they thought Nassau wouldn't mind, or maybe they just don't care because the county hasn't paid the MTA in full for years. |
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Posted by mac5689 on Sun Mar 27 20:40:56 2011, in response to Re: MTA Long Island Bus... who really owns the bus vehicles? The answer will shock YOU!, posted by The TransitMan on Sun Mar 27 15:52:20 2011. I was only aware of Suozzi getting pissed off that the MTA wanted to put the blue stripe on the Orion V's. I didn't know that there were others. |
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Posted by mac5689 on Sun Mar 27 20:47:52 2011, in response to Re: MTA Long Island Bus... who really owns the bus vehicles? The answer will shock YOU!, posted by R40slantontheB on Sun Mar 27 18:57:26 2011. It would be a good idea, until that starts cutting service and raising fares because it has no money. |
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Posted by JAzumah on Sun Mar 27 23:11:41 2011, in response to Re: MTA Long Island Bus... who really owns the bus vehicles? The answer will shock YOU!, posted by N6 Limited on Sun Mar 27 15:13:23 2011. They can stay as long as they send express trains to the resort town of Coney Island. |
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Posted by JAzumah on Sun Mar 27 23:15:03 2011, in response to Re: MTA Long Island Bus... who really owns the bus vehicles? The answer will shock YOU!, posted by Bee Flexible #823 on Sun Mar 27 16:20:44 2011. Cheaper. Don't you see how the MTA buses are being painted differently to save money? White paint is the cheapest. Colors like orange cost a lot more because they aren't used as much and it takes more mixing to make them. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Mar 27 23:44:46 2011, in response to Re: MTA Long Island Bus... who really owns the bus vehicles? The answer will shock YOU!, posted by JAzumah on Sun Mar 27 23:15:03 2011. Don't you see how the MTA buses are being painted differently to save money? No, he doesn't. He just thinks that it is what it is and it is here to stay and there's nothing no one can do about it. |
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Posted by N6 Limited on Mon Mar 28 11:06:25 2011, in response to Re: MTA Long Island Bus... who really owns the bus vehicles? The answer will shock YOU!, posted by JAzumah on Sun Mar 27 23:11:41 2011. LOL |
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Posted by N6 Limited on Mon Mar 28 11:10:13 2011, in response to Re: MTA Long Island Bus... who really owns the bus vehicles? The answer will shock YOU!, posted by mac5689 on Sun Mar 27 20:47:52 2011. All these proposals for transportation services take no sustainability into account. I wouldn't be surprised, if in the plans of these long island bus companies, that someone has a plan for a bus route on Ocean Parkway, running from Jones Beach to Robert Moses Park at 10 min headways. |
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Posted by Mac5689 on Mon Mar 28 11:50:04 2011, in response to Re: MTA Long Island Bus... who really owns the bus vehicles? The answer will shock YOU!, posted by N6 Limited on Mon Mar 28 11:10:13 2011. You really think there would be a demand for service like that, i mean from one beach to another? I'm not saying that its a bad idea, it sounds like a good idea to me, I just never thought that there was a demand for a bus to go from one beach to another before. |
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Posted by N6 Limited on Mon Mar 28 12:21:46 2011, in response to Re: MTA Long Island Bus... who really owns the bus vehicles? The answer will shock YOU!, posted by Mac5689 on Mon Mar 28 11:50:04 2011. I don't believe so, I was being facetious. |
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