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Posted by lbt 9415 on Mon Dec 22 02:47:23 2008 12.12.08 - The day after I arrived from NYC ( this vacation wasnt long enough lol. I had fun out there. It was nice to meet the new faces as well ). I took an extra day off because the jet lag really took a toll on me, and I wasnt feeling well on the plane at all.12.13.08 - I managed to do a change of assignment and scored a PM piece on the 54 route. The 54 is pretty kickback route. The bus was # 5358. For sure I thought this would be the last D40LF i would drive...later I would prove myself wrong.  12.14.08 - This is the first day of our Winter Pick Todays bus was LNG NABI 2214. The check engine light stayed on until the engine shut down. I was able to restart the bus & continue enroute until another coach was brought to me ... which in turn happened to be LNG NABI 2229 ( BOTH REPOWERED ).   12.15.08 - Off Day. Had a doctors appointment with a general surgeon. I will be having surgery the 2nd week of January...so I will be taking about 4-5 weeks off work. 12.16.08 - Off day. Today was my moms birthday. So I took here to this really good Mexican Restaurant in West L.A. 12.17.08 - My monday. Todays bus on my first half was LNG NABI 2153. Nothing special about it. On my split, I decided to go hunting for that CNG Crown school bus. The only thing I found was this CNG Blue Bird operated by Garden Grove Unified School District.  The bus for the 2nd half is C40LFR # 7523. Rain, shine, sleet, snow, it still gets pre-tripped. Leave the yard about 5 minutes early and made the 34 mile deadhead to Dana Point. I start as a 91 school tripper...then 1 Roundtrip on the 91..and a one-way 83 northbound to Disneyland    C40LFR # 7579  12.18.08 - 7515 was my bus for the 2nd half of the day on thursday. I picked up more school kids than I did the day before. This run desperately needs an artic bus.  see ....  12.19.08 - Same school kids, different C40LFR. Oh yeah that VanHool T2045 also had the Jake Brake on ... hot hot hot !!!!   12.20.08 - Saturdays bus was D40LF # 5353. This bus was supposed to be withdrawn from the fleet, as it had the farebox and radio ripped about 2 weeks ago. They reinstalled the farebox + radio ... I guess they need it back it service for a lil longer. Yuck the line I hate the most, the 29. Seen here at Buena Park Metrolink Sta.  This is the only 5300 that has a fire suppression system.  |
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Posted by WayneJay on Mon Dec 22 09:08:25 2008, in response to 8 days worth of pics ( 12.13.08 - 12.21.08 ), posted by lbt 9415 on Mon Dec 22 02:47:23 2008. A 34 mile deadhead sounds really, really long. I imagine it's all (or nearly) freeway? I still can't get over how good the old stuff on borrowed times looks. 5353 appears that it's marker lights are not working.That cross-country flight is kinda rough. We usually fly a red-eye on the return from the west coast, then sleep into the afternoon. The different time zone works well for us, because we like to sleep in, so while out west we continue to operate on EST/EDT. |
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Posted by lbt 9415 on Mon Dec 22 13:08:30 2008, in response to Re: 8 days worth of pics ( 12.13.08 - 12.21.08 ), posted by WayneJay on Mon Dec 22 09:08:25 2008. The 34 mile deadhead is long and is all freeway. When I took this shot of 5353, I shut the bus off ( night park ) and turned on the fog lights :)The eastbound trip from LAX-ATL wasnt too bad. I got more sleep on that flight since i was up for nearly 20 hours the prev day. |
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Posted by CentrolinerDD on Mon Dec 22 16:03:22 2008, in response to 8 days worth of pics ( 12.13.08 - 12.21.08 ), posted by lbt 9415 on Mon Dec 22 02:47:23 2008. Always great to read your posts, lbt 9415! |
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Posted by TheHat on Mon Dec 22 17:54:44 2008, in response to 8 days worth of pics ( 12.13.08 - 12.21.08 ), posted by lbt 9415 on Mon Dec 22 02:47:23 2008. Very nice. |
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Posted by Easy on Mon Dec 22 21:47:49 2008, in response to Re: 8 days worth of pics ( 12.13.08 - 12.21.08 ), posted by lbt 9415 on Mon Dec 22 13:08:30 2008. With the way that south county has been growing you guys probably need a yard down that way. |
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Posted by lbt 9415 on Mon Dec 22 22:21:55 2008, in response to Re: 8 days worth of pics ( 12.13.08 - 12.21.08 ), posted by Easy on Mon Dec 22 21:47:49 2008. OCTA still have the Irvine yard ...although its leased to Veolia. |
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Posted by busdude on Tue Dec 23 02:00:05 2008, in response to 8 days worth of pics ( 12.13.08 - 12.21.08 ), posted by lbt 9415 on Mon Dec 22 02:47:23 2008. OCTA is retiring D40LFs already? Why? |
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Posted by lbt 9415 on Tue Dec 23 10:16:32 2008, in response to Re: 8 days worth of pics ( 12.13.08 - 12.21.08 ), posted by busdude on Tue Dec 23 02:00:05 2008. The D40LFs are approaching their retirement limits ( 12 yrs or 500,000 miles whichever comes first ). Most of the D40LFs have more than 600,000 miles and working hard. As more of the C40LFRs are coming in, the D40LFs are moved to the contigency fleet and to the "bone yard". The yard im at, we have about 15 D40LFs that are in the contigency fleet. About 5 are used as training buses, and the rest are just bone yard bound. |
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Posted by octa1busfan on Tue Dec 23 22:24:16 2008, in response to Re: 8 days worth of pics ( 12.13.08 - 12.21.08 ), posted by lbt 9415 on Tue Dec 23 10:16:32 2008. What about the 5400s? hybrids? |
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Posted by lbt 9415 on Tue Dec 23 22:42:23 2008, in response to Re: 8 days worth of pics ( 12.13.08 - 12.21.08 ), posted by octa1busfan on Tue Dec 23 22:24:16 2008. theyre hanging around for quite a while. |
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Posted by octa1busfan on Tue Dec 23 23:09:37 2008, in response to Re: 8 days worth of pics ( 12.13.08 - 12.21.08 ), posted by lbt 9415 on Tue Dec 23 22:42:23 2008. but what about the hybrids? |
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Posted by lbt 9415 on Tue Dec 23 23:24:09 2008, in response to Re: 8 days worth of pics ( 12.13.08 - 12.21.08 ), posted by octa1busfan on Tue Dec 23 23:09:37 2008. see previous reply |
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Posted by roscoman1986 on Mon Dec 29 09:25:59 2008, in response to Re: 8 days worth of pics ( 12.13.08 - 12.21.08 ), posted by lbt 9415 on Tue Dec 23 23:24:09 2008. I guess they haven't really been running the DE40LFs anywhere as much as the other D40LFs (probably since they were experimental buses and some of the first DE40LFs ever built). |
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Posted by roscoman1986 on Mon Dec 29 09:43:20 2008, in response to 8 days worth of pics ( 12.13.08 - 12.21.08 ), posted by lbt 9415 on Mon Dec 22 02:47:23 2008. Nice pics! Some comments:1. Too bad that I missed a lot of the older stuff when I came in November! I saw some D40LFs up close, but I really wanted to ride the 1995 D40LFs (with the soft seats). I didn't get a chance to ride on a D40LF but I guess the 1999 D60LFs are pretty similar (except for the fact that they are articulateds that are 20 feet longer). 2. After seeing the C40LFR on the 187, I went to octa.net and checked out the 187 Bus Book page because for some reason I thought that 100-series routes all used "mid-size or small buses" Turns out the page also says that the 187 is operated by "mid-size or small buses" but a C40LFR is normally not in that category. Either that statement in the Bus Book is incorrect, or the 187 is operated both directly by OCTA using large size buses and by a contractor (Veolia?) that also operates small size buses, or 7579 is assigned to Veolia (despite not having any visible "operated by" stickers that would indicate otherwise). However, the 187 doesn't really look like it needs 40-footers except for school trippers. 3. Yep that school tripper looks packed...but at least the kids who ride OCTA buses don't deface the windows or interior (or if they do, it is cleaned up really fast)! Unfortunately, in the city of Phoenix proper the school trippers are where most of the buses (especially articulateds) get trashed. Even our brand new D60LFs are already tagged up in the back, and some of the older ones assigned to Phoenix-West division are starting to look like LACMTA buses (thankfully if someone writes on the seats, it won't show up)! 4. Except for the paper on the floor (which can be removed easily) that 7506 is very clean and bright like the other OCTA C40LFRs that I went on! I did notice one difference between the OCTA C40LFR seating configuration and the Valley Metro 2006 C40LFR seating configuration. On the Valley Metro C40LFRs there is a second pair of seats on the driver side of the bus (rather than OCTA's two rows on the passenger side and one row on the driver side configuration). As a result if I recall (I haven't been on a Valley Metro 2006 C40LFR in a while) the first set of sideways seats on the driver side is a group of 3 rather than 4. 5. Does the 29 mostly use artics or is is almost all 40-footers? I ask because it seems like a pretty busy route. |
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Posted by lbt 9415 on Mon Dec 29 10:03:19 2008, in response to Re: 8 days worth of pics ( 12.13.08 - 12.21.08 ), posted by roscoman1986 on Mon Dec 29 09:25:59 2008. they run those in local service...they just dont stay on one particular line |
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Posted by lbt 9415 on Mon Dec 29 10:30:37 2008, in response to Re: 8 days worth of pics ( 12.13.08 - 12.21.08 ), posted by roscoman1986 on Mon Dec 29 09:43:20 2008. too bad you wasnt out here a year when they still had some of the much older stuff runninf. The 1999 D60LFs are somewhat similar. We still have a handful of 1997/98 D40LFs running around including 5313-5316, 5406-5410,5329-5344,5351, 5376-5381 1. Too bad that I missed a lot of the older stuff when I came in November! I saw some D40LFs up close, but I really wanted to ride the 1995 D40LFs (with the soft seats). I didn't get a chance to ride on a D40LF but I guess the 1999 D60LFs are pretty similar (except for the fact that they are articulateds that are 20 feet longer). The 187 is shared with Divisions 1 and 4. Its one of those lines that barely picks up a load. They made an error in the bus book, referring to the 187 as a small vehicle route. Other in-house 100 series lines include the 145( some trips interline with the 51 ) , 167( weekend trips interline with the 24 ), and 177 ( weekday trips interline with the 82). Its funny because the 177 is operated by Division 1 on the weekday and Division 4 on the weekend. The 187 doesnt need 40fters. 2. After seeing the C40LFR on the 187, I went to octa.net and checked out the 187 Bus Book page because for some reason I thought that 100-series routes all used "mid-size or small buses" Turns out the page also says that the 187 is operated by "mid-size or small buses" but a C40LFR is normally not in that category. Either that statement in the Bus Book is incorrect, or the 187 is operated both directly by OCTA using large size buses and by a contractor (Veolia?) that also operates small size buses, or 7579 is assigned to Veolia (despite not having any visible "operated by" stickers that would indicate otherwise). However, the 187 doesn't really look like it needs 40-footers except for school trippers. This is like the 4th school tripper Ive done. Most of them are well behave and after they get off, theres definitely paper on the floor, but hey kids will be kids. Some of the kids Ive encountered are pretty much well-behaved. 3. Yep that school tripper looks packed...but at least the kids who ride OCTA buses don't deface the windows or interior (or if they do, it is cleaned up really fast)! Unfortunately, in the city of Phoenix proper the school trippers are where most of the buses (especially articulateds) get trashed... thats true. first row of seats though have LOTS of legroom. I did notice one difference between the OCTA C40LFR seating configuration and the Valley Metro 2006 C40LFR seating configuration. On the Valley Metro C40LFRs there is a second pair of seats on the driver side of the bus (rather than OCTA's two rows on the passenger side and one row on the driver side configuration) The 29 gets busy. Division 1 ran artics on the 29 during the summer months and on trippers when needed. Artics on that line should be an everyday habit. 5. Does the 29 mostly use artics or is is almost all 40-footers? I ask because it seems like a pretty busy route. |
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Posted by roscoman1986 on Mon Dec 29 11:27:24 2008, in response to Re: 8 days worth of pics ( 12.13.08 - 12.21.08 ), posted by lbt 9415 on Mon Dec 29 10:30:37 2008. Thanks for the info! |
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Posted by lantabusfan on Mon Dec 29 16:48:22 2008, in response to 8 days worth of pics ( 12.13.08 - 12.21.08 ), posted by lbt 9415 on Mon Dec 22 02:47:23 2008. I have a question.Few months back you posted preview pics of the newest C40LFR's get painted for the Bravo service.You got and newer pics of them sitting out in the yard supporting the Bravo scheme? |
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Posted by New Flyer #857 on Mon Dec 29 17:10:13 2008, in response to 8 days worth of pics ( 12.13.08 - 12.21.08 ), posted by lbt 9415 on Mon Dec 22 02:47:23 2008. I like those signs--maybe they should put them in, in place of the polite "Not in Service" and "Next Bus Please" signs. For example, "DEADHEAD" or "SWITCHING DEPOTS." Hey, that would make our jobs at BusChat much easier at least! |
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Posted by lbt 9415 on Mon Dec 29 17:49:16 2008, in response to Re: 8 days worth of pics ( 12.13.08 - 12.21.08 ), posted by lantabusfan on Mon Dec 29 16:48:22 2008. At this time I dont have any newer pics of the Bravo Repaint. More units will be repainted before June '09. |
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Posted by lantabusfan on Mon Dec 29 18:00:59 2008, in response to Re: 8 days worth of pics ( 12.13.08 - 12.21.08 ), posted by lbt 9415 on Mon Dec 29 17:49:16 2008. Ok.How many units alltogether will be repainted? |
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Posted by lbt 9415 on Mon Dec 29 18:05:24 2008, in response to Re: 8 days worth of pics ( 12.13.08 - 12.21.08 ), posted by lantabusfan on Mon Dec 29 18:00:59 2008. 7530-7592 |
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Posted by lantabusfan on Mon Dec 29 18:33:45 2008, in response to Re: 8 days worth of pics ( 12.13.08 - 12.21.08 ), posted by lbt 9415 on Mon Dec 29 18:05:24 2008. ok.thanks. |
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Posted by roscoman1986 on Mon Dec 29 22:45:27 2008, in response to Re: 8 days worth of pics ( 12.13.08 - 12.21.08 ), posted by lbt 9415 on Mon Dec 29 18:05:24 2008. That's odd that 7501-7529 are not being repainted as well. I thought those buses were specifically numbered for the BRT service? |
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Posted by octa1busfan on Thu Jan 22 22:29:32 2009, in response to Re: 8 days worth of pics ( 12.13.08 - 12.21.08 ), posted by lbt 9415 on Mon Dec 29 18:05:24 2008. So there is only 1 7500 that will have its cummins isl and remain in local service? 7529? |
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Posted by Houston METRO Fan on Sat Jan 24 08:35:48 2009, in response to Re: 8 days worth of pics ( 12.13.08 - 12.21.08 ), posted by lbt 9415 on Mon Dec 29 17:49:16 2008. Cool. Good luck on that with the pics stuff.YES, lantabusfan---I did do one of those C40LFR paper buses to reflect those that'll be repainted in the Bravo! livery. |
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Posted by octa1busfan on Sat Jan 24 11:02:07 2009, in response to Re: 8 days worth of pics ( 12.13.08 - 12.21.08 ), posted by Houston METRO Fan on Sat Jan 24 08:35:48 2009. it it on yahoo groups?? |
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Posted by Houston METRO Fan on Sat Jan 24 11:19:59 2009, in response to Re: 8 days worth of pics ( 12.13.08 - 12.21.08 ), posted by octa1busfan on Sat Jan 24 11:02:07 2009. Yes. On my Yahoo! group. It's there. |
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Posted by dontwalkhand on Sat Jan 24 12:25:52 2009, in response to Re: 8 days worth of pics ( 12.13.08 - 12.21.08 ), posted by roscoman1986 on Mon Dec 29 09:43:20 2008. You think that is bad with the New Flyers?Chandler High School kids have an open campus lunch, I stopped in the Jack in the Box across the street from Chandler High school to get a quick bite to eat, and every table, and chair was tagged with scrachiti, or a sharpie. Sad... |
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Posted by roscoman1986 on Sat Jan 24 14:55:21 2009, in response to Re: 8 days worth of pics ( 12.13.08 - 12.21.08 ), posted by dontwalkhand on Sat Jan 24 12:25:52 2009. Ugh. I hate when that happens. Was this inside the restaurant or outside?That is a surprise because I always thought that Chandler High School was not necessarily a "bad" school where people would want to tag anything up. Nevertheless, I was on one of the ex-Scottsdale 35-LFWs that were transferred from the RPTA to Tempe and even those were tagged up (albeit not that badly). I was surprised because I thought that these buses did not really go near "bad" areas where this would happen, or run school trippers in "bad" areas. My high school had very little tagging, if at all with the exception of the older bathrooms. The students also never vandalized the city buses (although ironically we got the RTS buses where the windows were heavily scratched up and vandalized). Finally, may I add that tags are not necessarily limited to "bad" schools. Even some of the Stanford buses (yes, Stanford University) have some graffiti on the back of the seats (unless they were running the buses in local service), and I have seen it at USC and in the back of some UCSD buses. |
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Posted by kingsbridge on Sun Jan 25 20:20:28 2009, in response to 8 days worth of pics ( 12.13.08 - 12.21.08 ), posted by lbt 9415 on Mon Dec 22 02:47:23 2008. What's wrong with the 29 line? |
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Posted by OCTD 2039 on Tue May 31 23:35:36 2016, in response to Re: 8 days worth of pics ( 12.13.08 - 12.21.08 ), posted by kingsbridge on Sun Jan 25 20:20:28 2009. Are we still on? Well bump it up, you idiot! |
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