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Re: Staten Islanders unsatisfied with MTA bus service(hear about this)

Posted by AMoreira81 on Sun Jul 6 18:04:52 2008, in response to Re: Staten Islanders unsatisfied with MTA bus service(hear about this), posted by Kriston Lewis on Sun Jul 6 17:25:41 2008.

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He always misinterprets statements I make...apparently everyone else understood what I said BUT him.

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Re: Staten Islanders unsatisfied with MTA bus service

Posted by 5301 Fishbowl on Sun Jul 6 18:18:12 2008, in response to Re: Staten Islanders unsatisfied with MTA bus service, posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Jul 6 11:32:16 2008.

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Plus, if there happens to be a 300 lb. man with body odor standing or sitting next to you, you can usually get off the subway whithin 1 or 2 minutes, and wait no more than 5 minutes (during the peak hours) for the next train. An express bus is a disaster when a situation like that arises.

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Re: Staten Islanders unsatisfied with MTA bus service

Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Jul 6 18:37:52 2008, in response to Re: Staten Islanders unsatisfied with MTA bus service, posted by 5301 Fishbowl on Sun Jul 6 18:18:12 2008.

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Agreed.

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Re: Staten Islanders unsatisfied with MTA bus service

Posted by Edwards! on Sun Jul 6 18:51:32 2008, in response to Re: Staten Islanders unsatisfied with MTA bus service, posted by R30A on Sun Jul 6 16:59:36 2008.

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True..I didn't need to travel to the Bronx..ONLY THOUGH IT...on the CROSS BRONX EXPRESSWAY.

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Re: Staten Islanders unsatisfied with MTA bus service

Posted by Edwards! on Sun Jul 6 18:52:12 2008, in response to Re: Staten Islanders unsatisfied with MTA bus service, posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Jul 6 17:02:06 2008.

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And You never do..

So what of it?

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Re: Staten Islanders unsatisfied with MTA bus service

Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Jul 6 18:53:46 2008, in response to Re: Staten Islanders unsatisfied with MTA bus service, posted by Edwards! on Sun Jul 6 18:52:12 2008.

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No, I usually do know what I'm talking about. And when I make a mistake, I acknowledge it, apologize, and move on. How about you?

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Re: Staten Islanders unsatisfied with MTA bus service

Posted by Thehat on Sun Jul 6 18:59:52 2008, in response to Re: Staten Islanders unsatisfied with MTA bus service, posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Jul 6 11:32:16 2008.

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But, it's not a one seat ride. You need the Bx7 to the IRT 1. The BxM1/2 is a one seat ride, w/improvements i.e. BxM2 Super Express and IMO extension to 23 st. on the BxM1/2 it may be to many, inc. yourself to ride the express bus.

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Re: Staten Islanders unsatisfied with MTA bus service

Posted by Edwards! on Sun Jul 6 19:02:30 2008, in response to Re: Staten Islanders unsatisfied with MTA bus service, posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Jul 6 18:53:46 2008.

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Now You know that this isn't going to go anywhere positive..so before we go any further[!]...how about we just let it go.

Good for YOU..good for Me..good for the board.

K?


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Re: Staten Islanders unsatisfied with MTA bus service

Posted by Thehat on Sun Jul 6 19:02:52 2008, in response to Re: Staten Islanders unsatisfied with MTA bus service, posted by Edwards! on Sun Jul 6 16:10:45 2008.

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There's no "U" in Van Cortlandt. And yes 242 St. is part of Riverdale

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Re: Staten Islanders unsatisfied with MTA bus service

Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Jul 6 19:07:14 2008, in response to Re: Staten Islanders unsatisfied with MTA bus service, posted by Edwards! on Sun Jul 6 19:02:30 2008.

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BTW, I don't think you replied to my post about wanting to purchase a ticket for your last run.

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Re: Staten Islanders unsatisfied with MTA bus service

Posted by Edwards! on Sun Jul 6 19:07:31 2008, in response to Re: Staten Islanders unsatisfied with MTA bus service, posted by Thehat on Sun Jul 6 19:02:52 2008.

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Important this is...seems it must be...to those it matters to..and that seems to be a few..not many ..just a few.


Must be new..242 is in Van Cortlandt...but it matters not,in the grand scope of things.

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Re: Staten Islanders unsatisfied with MTA bus service

Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Jul 6 19:08:42 2008, in response to Re: Staten Islanders unsatisfied with MTA bus service, posted by Thehat on Sun Jul 6 18:59:52 2008.

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But the Buxom1/2 take at best the same route as the Bx7, or at worst the same route as the Bx10/20 to get to where the (1) train is, making most of the same stops, so that cancels out the Bx7 ride.

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Re: Staten Islanders unsatisfied with MTA bus service

Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Jul 6 19:13:02 2008, in response to Re: Staten Islanders unsatisfied with MTA bus service, posted by Edwards! on Sun Jul 6 19:07:31 2008.

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Important this is...seems it must be...to those it matters to..and that seems to be a few..not many ..just a few.

Must be new..242 is in Van Cortlandt...but it matters not,in the grand scope of things.


Incorrect. You made a post specifically to discredit what I said. You wrote: Hey..I didn't know that the Broadway/7th avenue Local went to RIVERDALE. The MAP sez it only goes as far as VAN COURTLANDT. Funny how that works out..

You were shown to be WRONG. And then instead of acknowledging your error, apologizing, and moving on, you instead only try to minimize the severity of your mistake by saying that no one really cares about the distinction. Obviously YOU care enough to make a whole post about it to try to discredit me. Except that you were 100% wrong and I was 100% right. IF you were a real man, you would simply acknowledge your error, apologize, and move on. But it's clear that that's not who you are. You'd rather start arguments.

Also, Van Cortlandt is a park...

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Re: Staten Islanders unsatisfied with MTA bus service

Posted by Edwards! on Sun Jul 6 19:14:31 2008, in response to Re: Staten Islanders unsatisfied with MTA bus service, posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Jul 6 19:07:14 2008.

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You could have..if you wanted to...but since that was early this morning to this after noon[went to work and came back already,trip up and trip down]...my "last run" has come and gone.

Uneventfull,to say..but I did get a cake in Albany from some friends..and a gift..do it was all good.

Besides..if you would have shown up..You ticket wouldn't have been any good..[I would have let you ride as a guest..]


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Re: Staten Islanders unsatisfied with MTA bus service

Posted by Thehat on Sun Jul 6 19:19:00 2008, in response to Re: Staten Islanders unsatisfied with MTA bus service, posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Jul 6 19:13:02 2008.

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Correct, named for the Dutch landowners, it is not a neighborhood. Van Cortlandt Park is in fact in Riverdale, therefore Terrapin is correct.

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Re: Staten Islanders unsatisfied with MTA bus service

Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Jul 6 19:19:31 2008, in response to Re: Staten Islanders unsatisfied with MTA bus service, posted by Edwards! on Sun Jul 6 19:14:31 2008.

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You could have..if you wanted to...but since that was early this morning to this after noon[went to work and came back already,trip up and trip down]...my "last run" has come and gone.

I believe I posted it on Friday.

Besides..if you would have shown up..You ticket wouldn't have been any good..[I would have let you ride as a guest..]

That would have been very kind of you.

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Re: Staten Islanders unsatisfied with MTA bus service

Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Jul 6 19:20:06 2008, in response to Re: Staten Islanders unsatisfied with MTA bus service, posted by Thehat on Sun Jul 6 19:19:00 2008.

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Thanks.

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Re: Staten Islanders unsatisfied with MTA bus service

Posted by Thehat on Sun Jul 6 19:20:55 2008, in response to Re: Staten Islanders unsatisfied with MTA bus service, posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Jul 6 19:20:06 2008.

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Anytime!

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Re: Staten Islanders unsatisfied with MTA bus service

Posted by 5301 Fishbowl on Sun Jul 6 19:22:59 2008, in response to Re: Staten Islanders unsatisfied with MTA bus service, posted by Thehat on Sun Jul 6 19:19:00 2008.

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Van Cortlandt Park is in fact in Riverdale

I don't think the whole park is located in Riverdale. The northeast section is much closer to Woodlawn.

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Re: Staten Islanders unsatisfied with MTA bus service

Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Jul 6 19:27:44 2008, in response to Re: Staten Islanders unsatisfied with MTA bus service, posted by 5301 Fishbowl on Sun Jul 6 19:22:59 2008.

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I think maybe he meant the subway station, but maybe not.

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Re: Staten Islanders unsatisfied with MTA bus service

Posted by 5301 Fishbowl on Sun Jul 6 19:28:57 2008, in response to Re: Staten Islanders unsatisfied with MTA bus service, posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Jul 6 19:27:44 2008.

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I hope so. :-)

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Re: Staten Islanders unsatisfied with MTA bus service

Posted by Edwards! on Sun Jul 6 19:32:32 2008, in response to Re: Staten Islanders unsatisfied with MTA bus service, posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Jul 6 19:13:02 2008.

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Humm...
A LOT of effort on Your part to Want to be right..

Discredit You..

My mY..are we self important today.

You are under the impression that YOU MATTER ENOUGH to make it worth my while...all the more reason to state that even though this IS a public forum..my post was Not directed at You...

But knowing You the way I do..and KNOWING how ANAL YOU ARE...how You cannot help yourself being anal productive...you often resort to type.

So..lets be clear on one thing again.
It takes great effort to be a positive figure..and little to be negative.

I'm trying to be One..and Not the other...
So instead of going where You would love me to go..Im going to do what You DON'T want...let you go.

Do you understand what I'm saying to YOU...?

Meaning I'm NOT going to "debate" the issue with you on some silly matter that does nothing for Me or you..

I'm not going to "entertain" Your sickness to "be on top"..

I'M not going to "entertain" your need to have "respectability" here..

I'm not going to "entertain Your need to "have the last word"..

I'm not going to "entertain" YOU...PERIOD.

Do You Understand What That means?

It means that our sparing days are done..
It means that You are done...
It means that You are hereby rendered non persona grata...

Do You understand what THAT MEANS?

You don't exist.

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Re: Staten Islanders unsatisfied with MTA bus service

Posted by Thehat on Sun Jul 6 19:35:32 2008, in response to Re: Staten Islanders unsatisfied with MTA bus service, posted by 5301 Fishbowl on Sun Jul 6 19:22:59 2008.

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Agreed! you are right. The location in question is the W242 St. side. The original property extended in to Yonkers which was the property of the Van der Donck was known locally as the Jonkheer, a word from which the name "Yonkers" is directly derived. Just a little interesting story to add.

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Re: Staten Islanders unsatisfied with MTA bus service

Posted by Thehat on Sun Jul 6 19:37:16 2008, in response to Re: Staten Islanders unsatisfied with MTA bus service, posted by Edwards! on Sun Jul 6 19:32:32 2008.

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Ow, can't we all just get along?

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Re: Staten Islanders unsatisfied with MTA bus service

Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Jul 6 20:17:18 2008, in response to Re: Staten Islanders unsatisfied with MTA bus service, posted by Thehat on Sun Jul 6 19:37:16 2008.

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lol, you'd think he could be a man about it. instead he writes these long winded posts that I don't even bother reading.

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Re: Staten Islanders unsatisfied with MTA bus service

Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Jul 6 20:18:13 2008, in response to Re: Staten Islanders unsatisfied with MTA bus service, posted by Thehat on Sun Jul 6 19:35:32 2008.

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Seems like everyone here is learning something today except for Edwards! Funny how it works out that way...

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Re: Staten Islanders unsatisfied with MTA bus service

Posted by Pablo M 201 on Sun Jul 6 20:44:07 2008, in response to Re: Staten Islanders unsatisfied with MTA bus service, posted by JAzumah on Sat Jul 5 07:10:19 2008.

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their visit to Bergen Avenue

Man, you should've seen the bus I saw yesterday. Had to go out of service from JSQ because the bus was smokin' up a storm! Driver had the front door open too for air!

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Re: Staten Islanders unsatisfied with MTA bus service

Posted by Kriston Lewis on Sun Jul 6 21:25:31 2008, in response to Re: Staten Islanders unsatisfied with MTA bus service, posted by Edwards! on Sun Jul 6 16:10:45 2008.

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Van Cortlandt Park is in Riverdale, well, part of it.

Now, if you wanted to know if Riverdale is in The Bronx, you might get a denial or two.

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Re: Staten Islanders unsatisfied with MTA bus service

Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Jul 6 21:32:10 2008, in response to Re: Staten Islanders unsatisfied with MTA bus service, posted by Kriston Lewis on Sun Jul 6 21:25:31 2008.

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Not from me, of course. My address on all self-filled-out material is Bronx, NY.

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Re: Staten Islanders unsatisfied with MTA bus service

Posted by Kriston Lewis on Sun Jul 6 21:37:42 2008, in response to Re: Staten Islanders unsatisfied with MTA bus service, posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Jul 6 21:32:10 2008.

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Good.

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Re: Staten Islanders unsatisfied with MTA bus service

Posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Sun Jul 6 22:47:32 2008, in response to Re: Staten Islanders unsatisfied with MTA bus service, posted by Edwards! on Sun Jul 6 16:10:45 2008.

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DUH! The western section of Van Cortlandt Park IS in Riverdale.

And Riverdale runs as far north as the Yonkers/NYC boundary.

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Re: Staten Islanders unsatisfied with MTA bus service

Posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Sun Jul 6 22:49:25 2008, in response to Re: Staten Islanders unsatisfied with MTA bus service, posted by Edwards! on Sun Jul 6 18:51:32 2008.

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Then you need to explore the Bronx more. You can't see much of the Bronx from an mostly open cut/tunneled highway.

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Re: Staten Islanders unsatisfied with MTA bus service

Posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Sun Jul 6 22:52:01 2008, in response to Re: Staten Islanders unsatisfied with MTA bus service, posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Jul 6 19:19:31 2008.

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You did make that request on Friday.

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Re: Staten Islanders unsatisfied with MTA bus service

Posted by Edwards! on Sun Jul 6 23:38:06 2008, in response to Re: Staten Islanders unsatisfied with MTA bus service, posted by Thehat on Sun Jul 6 19:37:16 2008.

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Yes we could..we could get along even better if He wasn't here.

His Problem is simple.

Hes a foamer first class..and EVERYTHING THAT I WROTE ABOUT HIM..IS TRUE.

Case in point...
He been in posting on this board since LAST NIGHT CONSTANTLY[got off around 1;57 am sunday morning...took a short break..RETURN 604 AM!..took a short break..RETURNED 10'18 AM....!took a short break..has been posting ever since...

What makes it so bad..HE FLOODING THE BOARD..Every OTHER POST..is HIS NONSENSE...

He has no life...so he HAS TO STAY HERE...which makes him a very sad little man.

I use to feel sorry for him,he's so pathetic..now I pity him.
Or could it be that BOTH OF THEM ARE SO PATHETIC..That they take turns posting on SUB CHAT?

I'd like not to think so...cause it couldn't be THAT BAD...but from the looks of it...he[or should I say They] is a POSTER BOY for The PITYFUL LOOSER.

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Re: Staten Islanders unsatisfied with MTA bus service

Posted by AMoreira81 on Sun Jul 6 23:52:05 2008, in response to Re: Staten Islanders unsatisfied with MTA bus service, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sat Jul 5 15:32:39 2008.

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Or, people would be happy if schedules, especially during the rush hour, were mostly met. There will always be a few runs unmet because of lack of equipment or breakdowns---but when many runs at a time are unmet---this is what you get.

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Re: Staten Islanders unsatisfied with MTA bus service

Posted by AMoreira81 on Sun Jul 6 23:56:55 2008, in response to Re: Staten Islanders unsatisfied with MTA bus service, posted by ClearAspect on Sat Jul 5 12:55:39 2008.

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OR...the MTA can provide adequate service by tunneling under the Narrows and connecting to SIR near Grasmere (another stop would be added near Lily Pond Avenue).

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Re: Staten Islanders unsatisfied with MTA bus service

Posted by Osmosis Jones on Mon Jul 7 00:47:37 2008, in response to Re: Staten Islanders unsatisfied with MTA bus service, posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Jul 6 17:01:19 2008.

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I'd much rather sit in a soft and reclining seat over a hard bucket seat.

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Re: Staten Islanders unsatisfied with MTA bus service

Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Mon Jul 7 00:54:24 2008, in response to Re: Staten Islanders unsatisfied with MTA bus service, posted by AMoreira81 on Sun Jul 6 23:52:05 2008.

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Express runs by and large are unproductive. A packed house one way, an empty house the other way. Sometimes a bus goes in service on an early trip toward Manhattan and has to d/h back for the next trip later in the same rush. Zero dollars in the fare box. Here is where the balancing act comes in. Maybe the d/h'ing bus arrives late due to heavy reverse commuting traffic. As it is, express buses are big time money losers. Ever since the first fishbowl express bus from SI ran in the late 1960's, an uncontrollable and unproductive monster was created which NYCT cannot kill. Too bad because the extinction of express buses, something that will never happen due to political pressures, would hold down the deficit and put resources where they could be used more efficiently.

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Re: Staten Islanders unsatisfied with MTA bus service

Posted by Osmosis Jones on Mon Jul 7 01:06:18 2008, in response to Re: Staten Islanders unsatisfied with MTA bus service, posted by Edwards! on Sun Jul 6 19:07:31 2008.

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I thought that the Van Cortlandt Park station was in Van Cortlandt Village too.

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Re: Staten Islanders unsatisfied with MTA bus service

Posted by AMoreira81 on Mon Jul 7 01:13:52 2008, in response to Re: Staten Islanders unsatisfied with MTA bus service, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Mon Jul 7 00:54:24 2008.

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However...this is why they won't go away anytime soon: POLITICS...and keep in mind the MTA is still trying to get congestion pricing passed by the next legislature (this issue will keep coming up again, even if Dean Skelos, if the Republicans lose the Senate in the fall, attempt to flee Albany to deny a quorum needed for a vote).

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Re: Staten Islanders unsatisfied with MTA bus service

Posted by AMoreira81 on Mon Jul 7 01:14:21 2008, in response to Re: Staten Islanders unsatisfied with MTA bus service, posted by AMoreira81 on Mon Jul 7 01:13:52 2008.

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BTW---accept my apologies...I didn't read the post entirely.

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Re: Staten Islanders unsatisfied with MTA bus service

Posted by AMoreira81 on Mon Jul 7 01:15:45 2008, in response to Re: Staten Islanders unsatisfied with MTA bus service, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Mon Jul 7 00:54:24 2008.

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How NJ does it is (with only a few exceptions) make the buses run local, with pickup and dropoff once they get off of the highway (inbound, local customers simply have to be off the bus by a certain point).

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Re: Staten Islanders unsatisfied with MTA bus service

Posted by The Port of Authority on Mon Jul 7 01:19:36 2008, in response to Re: Staten Islanders unsatisfied with MTA bus service, posted by AMoreira81 on Mon Jul 7 01:15:45 2008.

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Technically, I believe that you're allowed to disembark from a MTA express bus before it runs express, although I'm not sure if you can get on after the express run.

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Re: Staten Islanders unsatisfied with MTA bus service

Posted by Osmosis Jones on Mon Jul 7 01:21:22 2008, in response to Re: Staten Islanders unsatisfied with MTA bus service, posted by The Port of Authority on Mon Jul 7 01:19:36 2008.

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On the QM routes that do the 6th Avenue loop, you can ride within Manhattan.

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Re: Staten Islanders unsatisfied with MTA bus service

Posted by Q46 LTD Glen Oaks on Mon Jul 7 02:31:03 2008, in response to Re: Staten Islanders unsatisfied with MTA bus service, posted by Osmosis Jones on Mon Jul 7 01:06:18 2008.

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The boundaries between Bronx neighborhoods are non-existent at best. In a lot of cases it's impossible to tell where one neighborhood starts and another ends. But the Station is technically in Riverdale.

You can still ride the Bxm3/4A/4B intra-Manhattan. I believe you just have to get on South of 63rd and you can depart north of 63rd.

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Re: Staten Islanders unsatisfied with MTA bus service

Posted by (3) Livonia Ave. Local on Mon Jul 7 06:41:06 2008, in response to Re: Staten Islanders unsatisfied with MTA bus service, posted by The Port of Authority on Mon Jul 7 01:19:36 2008.

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On the X37/X38, you can disembark at 23rd St/1st Av southbound apparently. You used to be able to disembark on a BM1/2/3/4 at Church-E. 7th, but once the BM1/2 started skipping that stop, that probably ended.

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Re: Staten Islanders unsatisfied with MTA bus service

Posted by JAzumah on Mon Jul 7 06:50:26 2008, in response to Re: Staten Islanders unsatisfied with MTA bus service, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Mon Jul 7 00:54:24 2008.

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Things will happen in a fiscal crisis. They will offer to kill off the express buses, privatize them, or charge a very high fare to fully cover costs. They are not in a position where they will have to pick and choose yet, but it will eventually happen.

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Re: Staten Islanders unsatisfied with MTA bus service

Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Mon Jul 7 08:00:50 2008, in response to Re: Staten Islanders unsatisfied with MTA bus service, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Mon Jul 7 00:54:24 2008.

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You can say the exact same thing about commuter buses from northern NJ.

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Re: Staten Islanders unsatisfied with MTA bus service

Posted by QM18Express on Mon Jul 7 11:34:28 2008, in response to Re: Staten Islanders unsatisfied with MTA bus service, posted by (3) Livonia Ave. Local on Mon Jul 7 06:41:06 2008.

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I do believe that you can still get off on Church/East 7th. I know I have gotten off of a inbound BM3 once to transfer over to the B35 LTD. I did that after the BM2 stopped serving checkpoint and before the BM1 stop serving checkpoint

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Correct post Re: Staten Islanders unsatisfied with MTA bus service

Posted by QM18Express on Mon Jul 7 11:35:17 2008, in response to Re: Staten Islanders unsatisfied with MTA bus service, posted by (3) Livonia Ave. Local on Mon Jul 7 06:41:06 2008.

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I do believe that you can still get off on Church/East 7th. I know I have gotten off of a inbound BM3 once to transfer over to the B35 LTD. I did that after the BM2 stopped serving checkpoint and before the BM1 stop serving checkpoint. This was in the afternoon BTW

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