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Re: How the MTA is Destroying the Local Bus System

Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Fri Nov 25 03:27:25 2011, in response to Re: How the MTA is Destroying the Local Bus System, posted by BrooklynBus on Thu Nov 24 18:13:25 2011.

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I already said there is no link.

You can explain all you want that Hillary Clinton was removed so that ultra-Orthodox (stop generalizing, this is part of the problem here) won't see women in high positions, but that doesn't make your opinion right, because there is no Jewish law that prevents women from knowing that. The actual reason she was removed from the photo is because having women in a newspaper photo is "sexually suggestive". Here is the complete statement from the newspaper about why they made the change (added emphasis is mine):

The White House released a picture showing the President following “live” the events in the apprehension of Osama Bin Laden, last week Sunday. Also present in the Situation Room were various high-ranking government and military officials. Our photo editor realized the significance of this historic moment, and published the picture, but in his haste he did not read the "fine print" that accompanied the picture, forbidding any changes. We should not have published the altered picture, and we have conveyed our regrets and apologies to the White House and to the State Department.

The allegations that religious Jews denigrate women or do not respect women in public office, is a malicious slander and libel. The current Secretary of State, the Honorable Hillary R. Clinton, was a Senator representing New York State with great distinction 8 years. She won overwhelming majorities in the Orthodox Jewish communities in her initial campaign in '00, and when she was re-elected in '06, because the religious community appreciated her unique capabilities and compassion to all communities. The Jewish religion does not allow for discrimination based on gender, race, etc.

We respect all government officials. We even have special prayers for the welfare of our Government and the government leaders, and there is no mention of gender in such prayers.

All Government employees are sworn into office, promising adherence to the Constitution, and our Constitution attests to our greatness as a nation that is a light beacon to the entire world. The First Amendment to the Constitution guarantees freedom of religion. (See below.) That has precedence even to our cherished freedom of the press! In accord with our religious beliefs, we do not publish photos of women, which in no way relegates them to a lower status. Publishing a newspaper is a big responsibility, and our policies are guided by a Rabbinical Board. Because of laws of modesty, we are not allowed to publish pictures of women, and we regret if this gives an impression of disparaging to women, which is certainly never our intention. We apologize if this was seen as offensive.

We are proud Americans of the Jewish faith, and there is no conflict in that, and we will with the help of the Almighty continue as law-abiding citizens, in this great country of our's, until the ultimate redemption.


You can try to make your point as much as you want, but that doesn't make it correct or factual. It isn't brainwashing (at least not of the type you claim, if you want to try making an argument that the men of this community have been taught that they are unable to control their sexual impulses on their own and need help to do it, you might find some agreement there) under the actual circumstances of the situation as opposed to the ones you want.

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