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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Tue Oct 25 17:49:14 2011, in response to Re: Women ride in back on sex-segregated Brooklyn bus line, posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Oct 25 17:35:36 2011. The driver wasn't right to not move the bus until she changed seats, but I still stand by my opinion. If a group of people consisting of 100% of the line's ridership voluntarily segregate, who is to make a fuss about it? Considering the reaction worldwide doesn't really put Jews in a great light, I'd rather the riders of the B110 be left to their own practice which doesn't seem to be bothering anyone than to make a big deal out of it. This journalist didn't need to get to Williamsburg as far as I can tell. What is next? Complaints the route doesn't run from Friday afternoon to Saturday evening?The fact you think I'm Orthodox simply based on the manner of my reply is ridiculous. I grew up in the Conservative Movement, I'm the third generation to attend my "home" shul in Maryland and my grandfather has been a member of the shul since the early 1950s. I was the gabbai of my college's Conservative minyan and fought very strongly against an attempt to eliminate all the minyanim (which would have meant a huge step backwards for the women of my minyan who counted and fully participated in my minyan but wouldn't in the one that was being proposed) in favor of a "pluralistic" trichitza minyan. I was also opposed to the Orthodox minyan's attempts to make Friday night dinner at a time so early in the evening that students who were not Shomer Shabbat would have a difficult time attending services since services would be early as well. I am currently the gabbai of a traditional egalitarian "independent" minyan in Jerusalem that even allows bat-kohanim to duchen (most egalitarian minyanim do not allow that). I believe very strongly in gender egalitarianism (but not class egalitarianism) in Judaism and Jewish prayer, a view that you won't hear many Orthodox Jews taking, if any at all. On the other hand, it is a viewpoint held by many traditional Conservative Jews, regardless of whether they identify as Conservative (as I do) or as traditional egalitarian or non-denominational or whatever other terms are popular these days. Perhaps you need to reassess your opinion of me and my beliefs based on what I actually believe as opposed to what you want me to believe. |
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