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Re: Staten Island Fantasy Map (56k)

Posted by Osmosis Jones on Sat Jun 4 00:25:25 2011, in response to Re: Staten Island Fantasy Map (56k), posted by dkupf on Fri Jun 3 21:20:08 2011.

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Now that I'm home after being entertained all day by Hank's idiocy, I'll respond to the only helpful post worthy of my response ever since I left.

I have to agree with Hank. Route duplication, except when serving major trip generators is a waste off our fare and tax money that could be better spent on the prevention of elimination of services, restore service eliminated throughout the years, and increase service where needed based on ACTUAL service loads.

Look at the ridership statistics along the corridors where I want to duplicate service, there's more definitely demand for better service along them.

Sending the S44 via the current S42 looks good on paper, but wouldn't work in the real world. You have to ask yourself: of the total S44/94 riders, how many would see their travel time increase? This is where your argument falls apart. I think that the overwhelming majority of local riders would see their travel time increase by 5-10 minutes. You could claim that these riders could use the S94, with added stops, but what about outside of the weekday-peak peak direction? The off peak and reverse peak is where the overall health of the route is really gauged. I would leave the S42 and S44/94 in Brighton and New Brighton as is.

True. I don't like the S42 because it doesn't really contribute much to the route network in Staten Island and operates too close to the S40, S44, and S52 for my taste, but it's necessary I guess.

* Operate the S54 via the SI Mall, instead of Egbertville and Richmondtown between Rockland Av and Arthur Kill Rd. (This isn't duplication, because the S54 would serve SI's #2 trip generator. Current ridership levels prove that Egbertville and Richmondtown need only one cross-island route, not two.)

That's not necessary in my scenario, or the MTA's current scenario, with a good chunk of Manor Road being north of the S54's connection with the S61. I wanted to use the S54 as a way to connect more of the North Shore (especially the Todt Hill Houses, which I think has more potential as a ridership source than seen with the current S54) with the huge New Dorp Shopping Area, in addition to giving New Dorp Beach residents better access to the malls along Hylan Boulevard than the S76 currently provides.

* Operate the S55 via the Bricktown Shopping Center. (The S74 and S78 have been serving it since April 24.)

I don't know much about the S55 or S56 so I'll take your word on that, but I'll add that when I fanned the S55 years ago, I was surprised to see Target workers using it despite how far it is, so there probably is demand.

* Extend the S62/92 via the West Shore Expwy to West Shore Plaza.

The S62 serves a lot of industrial companies in that, but few workers of those industries use the S62 even during the rush hour, so that could work. That's a better way to link Travis to West Shore Plaza than my S58 idea.

* Replace the S76/86 south of Mill Rd & Tysens Ln with the S57.

I wanted to split the S76's current job in New Dorp with the S54 and S57 to better connect its service area with the malls on Hylan Boulevard.

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